Silversun Pickups - Growing Old Is Getting Old

[pen]

It's on that Modern Promo Only thing Artie keeps yakking on about but if this is going to be a real single for radio, the only thing I have to ask is have they lost their mind? Where is my "It's Nice To Know You Work Alone"?

[halo19]

They didn't lose their minds, rather they just waited a couple months too long to release something. I don't think that's a bad choice at all.

[pen]

I think it's a terrible choice seeing as how it's a risky, slower album cut versus the more obvious choices in "Nice To Know" and "There's No Secrets This Year" that everyone keeps rooting for.

[halo19]

There are multiple hooks in "Growing Old" though. I think it's more of a single than "Substitution" which didn't do too bad.

[pen]

I think you and I have a different understanding of "hook".

[jvandyck87]

This has been my favorite track on the album since it came out. I never thought it was an obvious single choice, but if both Halo and I are unphased by it, it can't be that bad of a choice. I agree that it's not hooky, but I think it's also more of a standout track than "Substitution". For my taste it's more of a standout track than "It's nice to know you work alone" too. I agree "There's No Secrets This Year" is the obvious 4th single, but this would be my second choice. Hopefully this could SOMEHOW do well enough to warrant a 5th single, and maybe then they'll release it to close out the era.

[halo19]

No one really heard "Lazy Eye" expecting it to be a huge song, buzz aside.

[jvandyck87]

For what it's worth, I don't really like "Lazy Eye" or "Well Thought Out Twinkles", and never checked out 'Carnavas' as a result. I heard "Panic Switch" expecting to not like it either, but that song completely changed my mind about them. I should probably go back and check out 'Carnavas' at some point now that I really like 'Swoon'.

[American Idiot]

I personally really wanted "There's No Secrets This Year" or "It's Nice To Know You Work Alone," but it is what it is.

"Carnavas" I thought was a decent album, but "Swoon" is a pretty big step ahead of it.

[Gravity.]

I wanted "There's No Secrets This Year."

Hopefully this does well anyway.

[microcuts]

If INTKYWA was the next single, it would only further confuse and convince people Brian is a woman, being that Nikki sings the first couple lines of each verse.

I was kinda hoping on a limb for "Sort Of" - for a slower number, "Catch and Release" would've worked, too. Not sure about GOIGO... not sure how I felt about it opening their live set, and not sure how I feel about it being a single.

[pen]

Sept 2, 2010 0:41:48 GMT -5 microcuts said:

If INTKYWA was the next single, it would only further confuse and convince people Brian is a woman, being that Nikki sings the first couple lines of each verse.

I didn't know anyone sung anything other than Brian.

[halo19]

Honestly, I think her presence is obvious on "Little Lover's So Polite," the more-obscure third single from Carnavas. That's when I started noticing non-Brian vocals.

[Nicholas2.0]

Sept 1, 2010 18:41:17 GMT -5 halo19 said:

There are multiple hooks in "Growing Old" though. I think it's more of a single than "Substitution" which didn't do too bad.

I agree.

Sept 1, 2010 19:26:15 GMT -5 jvandyck87 said:

For what it's worth, I don't really like "Lazy Eye" or "Well Thought Out Twinkles", and never checked out 'Carnavas' as a result. I heard "Panic Switch" expecting to not like it either, but that song completely changed my mind about them. I should probably go back and check out 'Carnavas' at some point now that I really like 'Swoon'.

I think it'd be worth your time, yes.

Sept 1, 2010 22:37:45 GMT -5 American Idiot said:

"Carnavas" I thought was a decent album, but "Swoon" is a pretty big step ahead of it.

I disagree. I think both albums are excellent, with Swoon just barely edging it out when the dust settled for me this year.

Sept 2, 2010 0:41:48 GMT -5 microcuts said:

If INTKYWA was the next single, it would only further confuse and convince people Brian is a woman, being that Nikki sings the first couple lines of each verse.

Speak for yourself. I don't find it hard to tell the difference at all.

Sept 2, 2010 6:55:34 GMT -5 pen said:

I didn't know anyone sung anything other than Brian.

Hmmm....Just how closely have you listened to their albums, anyway??

Seeing as how it's been about a year and a half now, I wasn't even expecting a 4th single at this point. I don't think there's realistically a whole lot to gain from one, so if they wanna release "Growing Old," that's just fine with me since it's one of my favorites. I would've preferred "Sort Of," but maybe that sounds too much like "Panic Switch" and "The Royal We." It doesn't really matter a whole lot anyway at this point.

[pen]

Sept 3, 2010 2:58:52 GMT -5 Nicholas2.0 said:

Hmmm....Just how closely have you listened to their albums, anyway??

Obviously not close enough.

I did listen to the song after replying and actually, I still don't hear a difference. I don't even know if I'm actually listening to the right part.

[pen]

Oh, I'm so dumb. She's singing backup. Well that makes a lot more sense. I kept thinking you guys were saying she sang whole lines by herself and I was like, well it still sounds like Brian? And then I realized I was hearing her behind his voice singing along. Actually I think I really did already know that but it's been months since I really listened to Swoon so I just kind of forgot.

[microcuts]

Sept 3, 2010 2:58:52 GMT -5 Nicholas2.0 said:

Speak for yourself. I don't find it hard to tell the difference at all.

I don't have any problems telling the difference either, but I can't tell you how many comments I've seen from clueless people thinking Brian was a girl before they saw a video or went to a concert or whatever. He has a unique voice, but nothing about it resembles a woman's voice to me. I'm just saying that throwing out a single where the very first voice you prominently hear is Nikki's certainly wouldn't help matters.

[jvandyck87]

The mistake I made was initially I thought it was a male vocalist. Then I learned that they had a female member, and given the high register and unique timbre of the voice, I convinced myself that she was the singer and thought they were female vocals. And then i saw the music video for "Panic Switch".

Does anybody know...when they do the octave vocal effect as in the chorus of "Panic Switch" as well as in the very intense part of that song 'I'm waiting, and fading, and floating away'...in the studio it's clearly two voices. I'm wondering if they're both him or if the upper octave is Nikki?

[Mega248]

If there was ever a time to release this (assuming that releasing a mellow song is even considered a risky move in the first place), it would be now, since an underperforming 4th single is unlikely to have a significant impact on their career trajectory.

[lockebox]

Appalling choice. "It's Nice to Know You Work Alone" & "There's No Secrets This Year" are the best songs on the album IMO.

[Matt4319]

This is an amazing song (a close second on Swoon after "Panic Switch"; this itself was one of my top 20 songs of last year) and I'm thrilled it's getting released, but they'd have to do a picture-perfect editing job to cut this down to anything resembling a radio-appropriate length while not cutting down too much.

"There's No Secrets This Year" is probably the only clearly-better choice for radio, but yeah, it's a 4th single so it's not a big deal.

[pen]

Alright, now I'm really fucking confused. You guys are saying the first voice you hear on this song is Nikki, but the first voice I hear is Brian, and I don't hear Nikki until the chorus where she sings backup. Am I going fucking insane?

[jvandyck87]

Sept 3, 2010 20:03:30 GMT -5 pen said:

Alright, now I'm really f**king confused. You guys are saying the first voice you hear on this song is Nikki, but the first voice I hear is Brian, and I don't hear Nikki until the chorus where she sings backup. Am I going f**king insane?

I haven't listened yet, but this may be your problem. Pay attention to what I bolded. :)

Sept 2, 2010 0:41:48 GMT -5 microcuts said:

If INTKYWA was the next single, it would only further confuse and convince people Brian is a woman, being that Nikki sings the first couple lines of each verse.

Oh and I haven't gone back and listened to Carnavas yet, but I re-listened to the two charting singles that I had already downloaded into my iTunes library back when they were on the chart. I now like "Well Thought Out Twinkles" but I still just think "Lazy Eye" is meh (though the instrumental build-up that leads up to the return at the outro is pretty frickin cool). For someone whose favorite tracks on Swoon are "Panic Switch", "Growing Old Is Getting Old", and "The Royal We", do you guys have any recommendations for starters on Carnavas?

[pen]

Sept 3, 2010 21:51:11 GMT -5 jvandyck87 said:

Sept 3, 2010 20:03:30 GMT -5 pen said:

Alright, now I'm really f**king confused. You guys are saying the first voice you hear on this song is Nikki, but the first voice I hear is Brian, and I don't hear Nikki until the chorus where she sings backup. Am I going f**king insane?

I haven't listened yet, but this may be your problem. Pay attention to what I bolded. :)

Sept 2, 2010 0:41:48 GMT -5 microcuts said:

If INTKYWA was the next single, it would only further confuse and convince people Brian is a woman, being that Nikki sings the first couple lines of each verse.

My God, it's full of stars.

I'm a dumbass. Carry on.

[American Idiot]

Sept 3, 2010 21:51:11 GMT -5 jvandyck87 said:

Sept 3, 2010 20:03:30 GMT -5 pen said:

Alright, now I'm really f**king confused. You guys are saying the first voice you hear on this song is Nikki, but the first voice I hear is Brian, and I don't hear Nikki until the chorus where she sings backup. Am I going f**king insane?

I haven't listened yet, but this may be your problem. Pay attention to what I bolded. :)

Sept 2, 2010 0:41:48 GMT -5 microcuts said:

If INTKYWA was the next single, it would only further confuse and convince people Brian is a woman, being that Nikki sings the first couple lines of each verse.

Oh and I haven't gone back and listened to Carnavas yet, but I re-listened to the two charting singles that I had already downloaded into my iTunes library back when they were on the chart. I now like "Well Thought Out Twinkles" but I still just think "Lazy Eye" is meh (though the instrumental build-up that leads up to the return at the outro is pretty frickin cool). For someone whose favorite tracks on Swoon are "Panic Switch", "Growing Old Is Getting Old", and "The Royal We", do you guys have any recommendations for starters on Carnavas?

Try "Dream At Tempo 119," "Future Foe Scenarios," and "Waste It On."

[Nicholas2.0]

Sept 3, 2010 21:51:11 GMT -5 jvandyck87 said:

For someone whose favorite tracks on Swoon are "Panic Switch", "Growing Old Is Getting Old", and "The Royal We", do you guys have any recommendations for starters on Carnavas?

I will get back to you on this.

[halo19]

Sept 4, 2010 1:08:41 GMT -5 American Idiot said:

Sept 3, 2010 21:51:11 GMT -5 jvandyck87 said:

I haven't listened yet, but this may be your problem. Pay attention to what I bolded. :)



Oh and I haven't gone back and listened to Carnavas yet, but I re-listened to the two charting singles that I had already downloaded into my iTunes library back when they were on the chart. I now like "Well Thought Out Twinkles" but I still just think "Lazy Eye" is meh (though the instrumental build-up that leads up to the return at the outro is pretty frickin cool). For someone whose favorite tracks on Swoon are "Panic Switch", "Growing Old Is Getting Old", and "The Royal We", do you guys have any recommendations for starters on Carnavas?

Try "Dream At Tempo 119," "Future Foe Scenarios," and "Waste It On."

I second "119" and "FFS." I'd replace the third one with "Common Reactor," which kind of reminds me of the new album and really is great. I could see WIO though, it does have sort of a "Growing Old" vibe.