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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2010 15:32:50 GMT -5
This album is clearly not going anywhere near the sales of her first Christmas album. That album has been out for 16 years, was out during a time when people actually bought albums and it features a holiday standard that gets major airplay every December. I would not be surprised if the album topped out at 250-400k this year.
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Post by shadrach01 on Oct 26, 2010 15:37:16 GMT -5
If this album doesn't sell more than say, 200k total, it's nothing to cry over. It's a Christmas album. That would be a disaster. After all, her first one is five time platinum and Holiday albums do sell well, so that's why we are seeing so many relevant artists releasing Christmas albums each year. I don't accept less than 500k total for this album. (total for this year, 'cause it'll always have decent sales around Christmas time...). That's not true. Josh Groban and Bocelli sold well with holiday albums. That doesn't mean everybody can. That's like saying because Rod Stewart had some success with standard albums others can. That was Rod Stewart and that was then, and this is now. Let's be realistic. We have no video. So, who even knows about this album outside of the core, and fans of other divas.
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Post by Bojangles on Oct 26, 2010 15:44:20 GMT -5
If this album doesn't sell more than say, 200k total, it's nothing to cry over. It's a Christmas album. That would be a disaster. After all, her first one is five time platinum and Holiday albums do sell well, so that's why we are seeing so many relevant artists releasing Christmas albums each year. I don't accept less than 500k total for this album. (total for this year, 'cause it'll always have decent sales around Christmas time...). I don't wanna say it's impossible, but I hiiiiighly doubt it'll hit 500k this year alone. Memoirs barely hit that a year after its release. But the good thing is, since it's a holiday album it'll continually sell every year. That's my point.
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Post by beach1 on Oct 26, 2010 16:02:51 GMT -5
I don't know yet what I think about the album. I love some parts of it, but not all. One Child is great. It's probably the best song on the album for me. I wish she had sung the more traditional songs in a more subdued, subtle style than her usual style with all her trills. It ends up sounding too garish. The rnb interlude part of Born is the King doesn't really fit with The First Noel. When Christmas Comes sounds kind of downbeat for a Christmas song. Even though it's supposed to be a Christmas song, it actually sounds more like a sad song like Circles from Emancipation. I love the lyrics for One Child. It really focuses and does a great job of retelling the real meaning of Christmas. I usually am not crazy about songs that incorporates childrens' choirs in the chorus, but it really fits this song imo. This songs like a journey you take and climaxes in the chorus with a wonderful melody full of hope and Mariah's soaring vocals. (I just read this sentence after posting it and it sounds so unbelievably corny ) I'm not that familiar with the original All I Want for Christmas so I can't tell how different from it this is, but it sounds great. Auld Lang Syne is a great closer to the album. Love the dance reworking of it. I wish the album had one or two more upbeat, cheerier pop songs. When Christmas Comes is kind of depressing and kind of just drudges along and Charlie Brown Christmas is too downbeat/chilled for me. They both make the album drag imo.
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Post by twilight on Oct 26, 2010 16:04:14 GMT -5
HolidayGuy isn't a hater, people. I am. We know you are thats why nobody pays you any mind. You just better make sure your hating does'nt turn into other things because alot of the time your not even funny.
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Post by twilight on Oct 26, 2010 16:06:09 GMT -5
Mariah will sale far more than 200 to 450k. I hope she has a good first week. This album sounds incredible. What is up with the promo ? So what Memoirs only sold 500k, it still managed almost 170k in it's first week, many of her fans that wanted this Mariah is loving it. The Vocals are Impeccable !!! It's always so many haters in her thread, Stay Out.....
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Post by Bojangles on Oct 26, 2010 16:07:28 GMT -5
I'm not that familiar with the original All I Want for Christmas so I can't tell how different from it this is, but it sounds great. Excuse??? :o
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Post by r.enato on Oct 26, 2010 16:07:30 GMT -5
HolidayGuy isn't a hater, people. I am. We know you are thats why nobody pays you any mind. You just better make sure your hating does'nt turn into other things because alot of the time your not even funny. And yet you keep quoting my posts.....
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Post by beach1 on Oct 26, 2010 16:09:37 GMT -5
I'm not that familiar with the original All I Want for Christmas so I can't tell how different from it this is, but it sounds great. Excuse??? :o I wasn't a big Mariah fan when it first came out and I'm not really that interested in holiday songs usually so it just slipped past my radar. I'm familiar with the original, but not in the way that I'm familiar with most of her regular music.
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Post by Bojangles on Oct 26, 2010 16:11:37 GMT -5
Mariah will sale far more than 200 to 450k. I hope she has a good first week. This album sounds incredible. What is up with the promo ? So what Memoirs only sold 500k, it still managed almost 170k in it's first week, many of her fans that wanted this Mariah is loving it. The Vocals are Impeccable !!! It's always so many haters in her thread, Stay Out..... I really don't understand why if you speak on something on a more reality basis then you're considered a hater? ??? Take off those butterfly and rainbow colored glasses my dear and look at the facts of the music business today.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2010 16:13:33 GMT -5
It is always amusing to me how people make sweeping statements about her vocal styling every time she releases an album. You have your people who love her wailing all over every song, and you have your people who like her more subdued and airy style of singing. People will never disagree on that. A lot of critics welcomed her move to a more subdued vocal style when she released Butterfly but as the years went by a lot of fans started bashing that style. I think it is often that the fans want her to be wailing all over the place and people who arent as crazy about Mariah want her to sing in a more subdued style. Thats probably because many Mariah fans are really into the whole big vocal diva thing and a lot of people who dont really like Mariah dont really like her for the particular reason that they think shes all vocal caterwauling and nothing else
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Post by weaver on Oct 26, 2010 16:50:32 GMT -5
Why don't you listen to the full album before deciding you don't like it?? ??? The first Christmas album had medleys as well. Joy to the World is technically a medley of two songs by that same name, and there is also Hark the Herald Angels mixed with Gloria In Excelsis Deo. that you are basing anything at all on waht the tracklisting looks like. What, are you bothered by long titles?? Actually, yes, I am bothered by the long titles. I don't care if it's a long title, but to have to title the song(s) with a forward slash is unnecessary. When people see that, it kind of throws them off. It makes the track listing look sloppy. Umm....good Lord. I never thought I'd see criticism over forward slashes. How else is she going to title a medley?
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Post by weaver on Oct 26, 2010 16:59:54 GMT -5
First week sales are a tough call, and not really as important as usual in this case. The album will sell more as Christmas approaches is my feeling- post Thanksgiving through New Year's. It probably sold at least 10k on HSN (something like 6-7k just while it aired) though I'm not sure if that gets counted for the first week or not.
As far as overall sales, it depends how the wider public reacts to Oh Santa and whatever else radio decides to play/she decides to focus on, etc. I find it hard to predict sales for anyone anymore, because everything is so bleak- everything sells like 10% of what it used to, practically. It's like a big deal to break 500k at this point.
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Oct 26, 2010 17:00:16 GMT -5
To me, so far, this album is a C+
There are some gems (Christmas Time is in..., Auld Lang Syne) And there are good songs (most of the covers and originals) And there are some awful songs (The First Noel, Here Comes Santa Claus)
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Post by rosenkavalier on Oct 26, 2010 17:41:49 GMT -5
ur C MEANS NOTHING LOL
welcome here to write ur C
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Oct 26, 2010 17:45:38 GMT -5
ur C MEANS NOTHING LOL welcome here to write ur C I don't know what that means.
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Post by rosenkavalier on Oct 26, 2010 18:19:36 GMT -5
that s the point
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2010 18:26:16 GMT -5
Amazing.
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Post by twilight on Oct 26, 2010 18:45:57 GMT -5
We know you are thats why nobody pays you any mind. You just better make sure your hating does'nt turn into other things because alot of the time your not even funny. And yet you keep quoting my posts..... Yes because it's ridiculous that you stay in here with nothing but nonsense. Thats why i keep quoting your post, i'm certainly not doing it because you are saying anything significant.
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Post by twilight on Oct 26, 2010 18:50:24 GMT -5
Mariah will sale far more than 200 to 450k. I hope she has a good first week. This album sounds incredible. What is up with the promo ? So what Memoirs only sold 500k, it still managed almost 170k in it's first week, many of her fans that wanted this Mariah is loving it. The Vocals are Impeccable !!! It's always so many haters in her thread, Stay Out..... I really don't understand why if you speak on something on a more reality basis then you're considered a hater? ??? Take off those butterfly and rainbow colored glasses my dear and look at the facts of the music business today. Did i directly call u a hater ? No i did not. However, there are many that stroll around in this thread who are. Pick up a microscope, it shall serve you justice. A few have even admitted to it. Anyway, i know whats going on in the industry, but i also know that she'll sale more than that, or atleast thats my take on things like you have yours.
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Post by Cautionme11/16 on Oct 26, 2010 19:03:32 GMT -5
Mariah adds George Lopez to her 1st week promo: Mariah to Appear on Lopez Tonight Posted by Lynn on Tuesday, 26-Oct-2010, 5:19PM EDT Mariah is confirmed to make a guest appearance on the late night show Lopez Tonight on Tuesday, November 2nd. Taping will take place at 4:30pm PT in the WB Studios in Burbank. The episode will air later in the night at 8pm/11pm PT/ET on TBS.
As we previously reported, Mariah is scheduled to tape her appearance on the Ellen DeGeneres Show Monday, November 1st. The episode has been confirmed to air on Tuesday, November 2nd. Find out the time it's airing in your area here.
Meanwhile, Mariah's dancer Punch has revealed on his Twitter that Mariah will be filming her ABC Christmas Special on Saturday, November 6 in Los Angeles. He posted: "Rehersal flow for@MariahCarey xmas special!! its in LA Nov 6." Source: MariahDailyJournal
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Post by twilight on Oct 26, 2010 19:07:16 GMT -5
Pm this for me anybody ? Where are the snippets ?
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Oct 26, 2010 19:42:32 GMT -5
I'm liking the new AIWFCIY
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Post by repentyourself on Oct 26, 2010 19:57:05 GMT -5
Srsly, I love 'Christmas Time is in the Air Again', 'Charlie Brown Christmas', and the intro to 'The First Noel'. I love that style of Christmas music. My least favorite track is probably the "live" version of 'O Holy Night', just because I can't stand the whispers mixed in with the full voice from the original. I like the new ending, though. I'm liking the new AIWFCIY Other than the intro, I'm not really feeling it, tbh. The new vocals on top of the original ones kind of sound a mess, and it doesn't have that classic feel like the original has.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Oct 26, 2010 20:00:08 GMT -5
I'm liking the new AIWFCIY Other than the intro, I'm not really feeling it, tbh. The new vocals on top of the original ones kind of sound a mess, and it doesn't have that classic feel like the original has. I like the intro, and the layer/harmonized head notes ontop of the original ones. The other new vocals can gtfo though.
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Post by twilight on Oct 26, 2010 22:49:06 GMT -5
Someone anyone where are ya'll hearing these songs ? Let me know ?????
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Post by shadrach01 on Oct 27, 2010 1:09:17 GMT -5
Someone anyone where are ya'll hearing these songs ? Let me know ????? After you have talked crazy to half the folks in this forum lol. Go to youtube
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Post by twilight on Oct 27, 2010 4:03:57 GMT -5
Someone anyone where are ya'll hearing these songs ? Let me know ????? After you have talked crazy to half the folks in this forum lol. Go to youtube I'm sorry and you are ? I don't talk crazy to everybody just those that act that way.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Oct 27, 2010 6:02:59 GMT -5
I'm liking the new AIWFCIY Other than the intro, I'm not really feeling it, tbh. The new vocals on top of the original ones kind of sound a mess, and it doesn't have that classic feel like the original has. I agree with this. The final notes especially are a mess. SMH Glad you like the album, Mr. Shears
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Post by Jay D83 on Oct 27, 2010 8:13:45 GMT -5
Too many ballads. UGH!
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