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Post by Leigh on Nov 15, 2010 13:06:30 GMT -5
OMG didn't it just get releaseed there today?! lol Yep - I didn't realise it was exclusively at HMV here until this morning, odd choice. It's all about the supermarkets nowadays! Especially annoying because I just drove to the nearest HMV and they didn't even bother to place it in the New Releases section or on display. I had to go to the back of the store to the Artists section, hunt out Mariah and search for MCIIY. Odd way to treat an exclusive release!
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Post by cking33 on Nov 15, 2010 14:08:06 GMT -5
Wow, All I Want for Christmas is You is starting its ascent already. Does it normally have these big gains prior to Thanksgiving? And I wonder how "Oh Santa" is doing?
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Post by stevyy on Nov 15, 2010 15:48:02 GMT -5
Just #113 in UK. This could become her lowest charting album there. it will be her lowest charting album there.. and even worse, I still don't see this reaching the top 100 in Germany at all. OK the album will be released next friday.. but it's done soooo poorly on pre-orders and on amazon... it's a big shame. even worse is, that it's going to be released in Japan next week, which I think is too late too.
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Post by worldwide on Nov 15, 2010 16:11:23 GMT -5
^People there don't know she's releasing. She has no promo. She should go to Europe in early December and promote.
All I Want For Christmas is #176 on UK iTunes.
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Post by David on Nov 15, 2010 16:14:53 GMT -5
Is Auld Lang Syne going to be released for New Years? lol It just seems like something they'd do to keep sales going after Christmas.
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Post by grouper6 on Nov 15, 2010 16:29:19 GMT -5
I just can't at some of the things being said in here. It seems that we've moved past the obvious trolling, and now some of us have become good at this subtle sideways shade-throwing. Let's all just let Mariah worry about what it's ok for Mariah to do during her pregnancy, k? I'm sure she's got lots of people who, you know, actually know what they are talking about telling her what is and is not ok. grouper6, you go through writing all that stuff about whitney and then write, "Don't care what mariah does, her life and I'd hardly call mc2u a hit yet." Indeed then, I don't know why you felt compelled to click in here, other than to cause trouble. The album had a solid first week, and I don't think anyone's trying to act like it's some big hit already, so just settle down. How old are you? 8? Whitney was brought up by 2 mariah fans @bebee who brought up whitney's miscarriage and tried to throw shade and them mcfan who stated that mariah is not like whitney who had 5 miscarriages due to weed, smoking and a constant state of being thin all of which is erroneous. Quit being selective with your admonitions!The Whitney references were by Mariah fans who were both out of line. Now that it's news that mariah had a miscarriage doesn't seen so nice does it"! Again, this is a chart thread which I stated a chart opinion after I corrected the outright lie about Whitney. AGain, don't care what mariah does as to her travel/promotion/wearing heels as it's her life and i'm sure she's not reading this site to see what i think. build a bridge and get over it!
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Post by grouper6 on Nov 15, 2010 16:34:31 GMT -5
why not! Thisis a chart forum and I follow music. It's too early to say that mc2u is a hit and mariah has free will to do as she wishes. it's just disingenous for her fans to be sensitive about what people say about her health, her pregnancy, her miscarriage and then throw shad at someone who was worse sick with 3 miscarriages and a very hard pregnancy that has been documented. No I don't care about Mariah in the way that I try to dictate what she does or doesn't do with her personal life. Not by call. However, I'm very interested in charts, stats and music which is why i'm in this thread when someone comments that MC2u is a hit and the fact is, it's too early to tell. Kapich! Of course, u totally ignore the mariah fan that completely shaded Whitney. How would it be if someone said that Mariah miscarried because she drunk too much alcohol! Exactly! So let's leave the shading out of it and call the correct people out . there no need to hide behind anything because i stand by what I said. I don't care what Mariah does with her life promo wise while she's pregnant, whether she chooses to wear heels or not. it's her call and I'm sure she will do what she pleases not what I think she should or should not do! No, you said you don't care about Mariah's life and what she does. So, don't run behind the this a chart forum rant. You said you don't care about Mariah pretty much so why post here?
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Post by Bojangles on Nov 15, 2010 17:13:18 GMT -5
I just can't at some of the things being said in here. It seems that we've moved past the obvious trolling, and now some of us have become good at this subtle sideways shade-throwing. Let's all just let Mariah worry about what it's ok for Mariah to do during her pregnancy, k? I'm sure she's got lots of people who, you know, actually know what they are talking about telling her what is and is not ok. grouper6, you go through writing all that stuff about whitney and then write, "Don't care what mariah does, her life and I'd hardly call mc2u a hit yet." Indeed then, I don't know why you felt compelled to click in here, other than to cause trouble. The album had a solid first week, and I don't think anyone's trying to act like it's some big hit already, so just settle down. How old are you? 8? Whitney was brought up by 2 mariah fans @bebee who brought up whitney's miscarriage and tried to throw shade and them mcfan who stated that mariah is not like whitney who had 5 miscarriages due to weed, smoking and a constant state of being thin all of which is erroneous. Quit being selective with your admonitions!The Whitney references were by Mariah fans who were both out of line. Now that it's news that mariah had a miscarriage doesn't seen so nice does it"! Again, this is a chart thread which I stated a chart opinion after I corrected the outright lie about Whitney. This right here. Neither of us brought Whitney up first, beebee did. Ask that poster why they always bring her up, as if always bringing up her miscarriages all the time personally involves us. What a retard. I never come in here to discuss Whitney, that's stupid. On another note, did anyone hear how much Jessica Simpson's new xmas song completely rips off AIWFCIY?
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Post by repentyourself on Nov 15, 2010 17:49:32 GMT -5
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Post by weaver on Nov 15, 2010 18:13:30 GMT -5
I just can't at some of the things being said in here. It seems that we've moved past the obvious trolling, and now some of us have become good at this subtle sideways shade-throwing. Let's all just let Mariah worry about what it's ok for Mariah to do during her pregnancy, k? I'm sure she's got lots of people who, you know, actually know what they are talking about telling her what is and is not ok. grouper6, you go through writing all that stuff about whitney and then write, "Don't care what mariah does, her life and I'd hardly call mc2u a hit yet." Indeed then, I don't know why you felt compelled to click in here, other than to cause trouble. The album had a solid first week, and I don't think anyone's trying to act like it's some big hit already, so just settle down. How old are you? 8? Whitney was brought up by 2 mariah fans @bebee who brought up whitney's miscarriage and tried to throw shade and them mcfan who stated that mariah is not like whitney who had 5 miscarriages due to weed, smoking and a constant state of being thin all of which is erroneous. Quit being selective with your admonitions!The Whitney references were by Mariah fans who were both out of line. Now that it's news that mariah had a miscarriage doesn't seen so nice does it"! Again, this is a chart thread which I stated a chart opinion after I corrected the outright lie about Whitney. AGain, don't care what mariah does as to her travel/promotion/wearing heels as it's her life and i'm sure she's not reading this site to see what i think. build a bridge and get over it! ???Your comment does not even make any sense in response to what I wrote. I know neither why you feel the need to resurrect this subject, nor what half of what you wrote is even all about. I never brought any of it up, I simply expressed the desire to move on from such negative discussion. I'm not in here to talk about Whitney, or how many times she miscarried or any of that nonsense. I encourage you to take your own advice and "build a bridge and get over it" as well as stay out of this thread if you are not interested in Mariah, which you have said you are not. Have an amazing day.
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Post by KMJ1 on Nov 15, 2010 20:17:51 GMT -5
Just #113 in UK. This could become her lowest charting album there. they never really "felt" her in the U.K. No shock.
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Post by mcmariah on Nov 15, 2010 21:49:10 GMT -5
I just can't at some of the things being said in here. It seems that we've moved past the obvious trolling, and now some of us have become good at this subtle sideways shade-throwing. Let's all just let Mariah worry about what it's ok for Mariah to do during her pregnancy, k? I'm sure she's got lots of people who, you know, actually know what they are talking about telling her what is and is not ok. grouper6, you go through writing all that stuff about whitney and then write, "Don't care what mariah does, her life and I'd hardly call mc2u a hit yet." Indeed then, I don't know why you felt compelled to click in here, other than to cause trouble. The album had a solid first week, and I don't think anyone's trying to act like it's some big hit already, so just settle down. How old are you? 8? Whitney was brought up by 2 mariah fans @bebee who brought up whitney's miscarriage and tried to throw shade and them mcfan who stated that mariah is not like whitney who had 5 miscarriages due to weed, smoking and a constant state of being thin all of which is erroneous. Quit being selective with your admonitions!The Whitney references were by Mariah fans who were both out of line. Now that it's news that mariah had a miscarriage doesn't seen so nice does it"! Again, this is a chart thread which I stated a chart opinion after I corrected the outright lie about Whitney. AGain, don't care what mariah does as to her travel/promotion/wearing heels as it's her life and i'm sure she's not reading this site to see what i think. build a bridge and get over it! since i was one of the mcfans ur mentioning, i only brought whit up cause at that stage that one poster was here and just saying that she should do this this and this. then i found out he was a whit fan, so i was explaining to him how mc's situation is different than his fav's situation. and i still stand behind what i say, whit had all these miscarriages because of all the factors mentioned and therefore his "fear" for mc's pregnancy comes from the wrong place. p.s. i wasn't throwing shade, i was mentioning facts. it's a sad world u live in if u think mentioning facts is throwing shade. whitney's "bad" life around her miscarriages included: - DRUGS - weight issues (too thin at times) - stressful home (relationships included) - plus a possibility of family genetics mariah's "bad" life during pregnancy include: - Wearing heals. please move on. now on topic 2nd week chart 40.05% 20,754 #10
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Post by California Cheers on Nov 15, 2010 22:09:03 GMT -5
How old are you? 8? Whitney was brought up by 2 mariah fans @bebee who brought up whitney's miscarriage and tried to throw shade and them mcfan who stated that mariah is not like whitney who had 5 miscarriages due to weed, smoking and a constant state of being thin all of which is erroneous. Quit being selective with your admonitions!The Whitney references were by Mariah fans who were both out of line. Now that it's news that mariah had a miscarriage doesn't seen so nice does it"! Again, this is a chart thread which I stated a chart opinion after I corrected the outright lie about Whitney. AGain, don't care what mariah does as to her travel/promotion/wearing heels as it's her life and i'm sure she's not reading this site to see what i think. build a bridge and get over it! since i was one of the mcfans ur mentioning, i only brought whit up cause at that stage that one poster was here and just saying that she should do this this and this. then i found out he was a whit fan, so i was explaining to him how mc's situation is different than his fav's situation. and i still stand behind what i say, whit had all these miscarriages because of all the factors mentioned and therefore his "fear" for mc's pregnancy comes from the wrong place. p.s. i wasn't throwing shade, i was mentioning facts. it's a sad world u live in if u think mentioning facts is throwing shade. whitney's "bad" life around her miscarriages included: - DRUGS - weight issues (too thin at times) - stressful home (relationships included) - plus a possibility of family genetics mariah's "bad" life during pregnancy include: - Wearing heals. please move on. now on topic 2nd week chart 40.05% 20,754 #10you forgot mariah's love of alcohol
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Post by Candy Bling on Nov 16, 2010 5:41:09 GMT -5
Just #113 in UK. This could become her lowest charting album there. they never really "felt" her in the U.K. No shock. Crap. The UK is her third biggest market.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2010 5:45:20 GMT -5
Maybe wait until the midweeks have actually come out yeah?
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Post by KMJ1 on Nov 16, 2010 5:50:43 GMT -5
they never really "felt" her in the U.K. No shock. Crap. The UK is her third biggest market. lmao! Than why has she always struggled to score original #1 songs? How many does she have? ZERO. Her only two #1 songs were both covers and one of them was with WESTLIFE- who Tiffany or Stacy Q couldve dueted with an it still woulda been #1- thats how big "they" were LOL! Nice try though. Her last several albums have done horrendously there (barely going top 10 at best in some cases)- so, ok, if its her 3rd largest market, the #s that consist of, arent much to brag about..just sayin LOL.
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Post by Candy Bling on Nov 16, 2010 6:12:39 GMT -5
Crap. The UK is her third biggest market. lmao! Than why has she always struggled to score original #1 songs? How many does she have? ZERO. Her only two #1 songs were both covers and one of them was with WESTLIFE- who Tiffany or Stacy Q couldve dueted with an it still woulda been #1- thats how big "they" were LOL! Nice try though. Her last several albums have done horrendously there (barely going top 10 at best in some cases)- so, ok, if its her 3rd largest market, the #s that consist of, arent much to brag about..just sayin LOL. So if a song doesn't hit #1 that means the artist is a failure? Lmao get real! 26 top 10 singles (17 of those top 5) 12 top 10 albums 14 gold albums (MOAIA about to be the 15th) 7 platinum albums The 6th best selling singles female Try again.
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Post by neverduplicated on Nov 16, 2010 7:16:59 GMT -5
The UK has always been a bit reluctant to embrace Mariah with the exception of the Music Box era, but she has had fairly consistent success here since her debut, even though she's never really been seen as top of the game. I'd say that many people still knows "Hero," "Without You," "All I Want For Christmas," and "We Belong Together" as being her signature songs, with AIWFCIY being the most played Xmas song of the past decade and an X Factor cover of "Hero" actually going to #1 on the charts and finishing at #19 on the UK's top songs of the decade chart (though granted it was a charity single and performed by the X Factor). Also, her compilation albums have sold quite well in the UK - both #1's and Greatest Hits have sold over 750,000 according the MDJ and The Ballads has sold over 300,000. MDJ has her UK album sales total at 7.5 million, which probably would be her third biggest market after the US (~63 million) and Japan (~18 million). With that said, though, Memoirs was by far her worst performing album in the UK, partly because of the delayed release date they had for the album and the fact that they sent out one single (the wrong single) and sent it out way too late.
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Post by worldwide on Nov 16, 2010 7:18:52 GMT -5
Crap. The UK is her third biggest market. lmao! Than why has she always struggled to score original #1 songs? How many does she have? ZERO. Her only two #1 songs were both covers and one of them was with WESTLIFE- who Tiffany or Stacy Q couldve dueted with an it still woulda been #1- thats how big "they" were LOL! Nice try though. Her last several albums have done horrendously there (barely going top 10 at best in some cases)- so, ok, if its her 3rd largest market, the #s that consist of, arent much to brag about..just sayin LOL. Hero went to #1
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Post by worldwide on Nov 16, 2010 7:20:32 GMT -5
Bad news from UK. MCIIY is not in top 40 according to midweeks.
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Post by switchblade on Nov 16, 2010 7:20:50 GMT -5
The UK has always been a bit reluctant to embrace Mariah with the exception of the Music Box era, but she has had fairly consistent success here since her debut, even though she's never really been seen as top of the game. I'd say that many people still knows "Hero," "Without You," "All I Want For Christmas," and "We Belong Together" as being her signature songs, with AIWFCIY being the most played Xmas song of the past decade and an X Factor cover of "Hero" actually going to #1 on the charts and finishing at #19 on the UK's top songs of the decade chart (though granted it was a charity single and performed by the X Factor). Also, her compilation albums have sold quite well in the UK - both #1's and Greatest Hits have sold over 750,000 according the MDJ and The Ballads has sold over 300,000. MDJ has her UK album sales total at 7.5 million, which probably would be her third biggest market after the US (~63 million) and Japan (~18 million). With that said, though, Memoirs was by far her worst performing album in the UK, partly because of the delayed release date they had for the album and the fact that they sent out one single (the wrong single) and sent it out way too late. 63 + 18 + 7.5 = 88.5 million Since MDJ declared she had sold 200 million, where's the rest of 111.5 million? ???
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Post by grouper6 on Nov 16, 2010 7:21:41 GMT -5
How old are you? 8? Whitney was brought up by 2 mariah fans @bebee who brought up whitney's miscarriage and tried to throw shade and them mcfan who stated that mariah is not like whitney who had 5 miscarriages due to weed, smoking and a constant state of being thin all of which is erroneous. Quit being selective with your admonitions!The Whitney references were by Mariah fans who were both out of line. Now that it's news that mariah had a miscarriage doesn't seen so nice does it"! Again, this is a chart thread which I stated a chart opinion after I corrected the outright lie about Whitney. AGain, don't care what mariah does as to her travel/promotion/wearing heels as it's her life and i'm sure she's not reading this site to see what i think. build a bridge and get over it! ???Your comment does not even make any sense in response to what I wrote. I know neither why you feel the need to resurrect this subject, nor what half of what you wrote is even all about. I never brought any of it up, I simply expressed the desire to move on from such negative discussion. I'm not in here to talk about Whitney, or how many times she miscarried or any of that nonsense. I encourage you to take your own advice and "build a bridge and get over it" as well as stay out of this thread if you are not interested in Mariah, which you have said you are not. Have an amazing day. Oh so you now Whitney's doctor! I can't! Those were not the reasons she had miscarriages. There is no information in the public domain that stated she miscarried because she was 'too thin' , smoking or on drugs. In fact, she has not smoked while pregnant. She was born naturally thin. Have you seen pictures of her !That is why she was a natural fit as a model. Thiness is not a contraindication to having a baby. If you insist on this malarkey, i guess Mariah lost her baby from excessive intake of alcohol *insert sarcasm* here. You know exactly what you were doing with your lies. The subject was resurrected because several people commented on my comments and refused to acknowledge that it was Mariah fans who brought up Whitney's name including YOU and not myself or Bojangles. This subject lives now because of your persistant lies! You stay blessed!! You are not a moderator to tell anyone stay out of a thread. How about you quit telling lies about Whitney. Having said that, looking forward to see her Hits prediction for this week charts!
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Post by grouper6 on Nov 16, 2010 7:23:02 GMT -5
I don't expect MC2U to do anything internationally as I don't expect her to do any promo due to her pregnancy. Understandable! Her sales will come from the US market.
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Post by switchblade on Nov 16, 2010 7:28:27 GMT -5
lmao! Than why has she always struggled to score original #1 songs? How many does she have? ZERO. Her only two #1 songs were both covers and one of them was with WESTLIFE- who Tiffany or Stacy Q couldve dueted with an it still woulda been #1- thats how big "they" were LOL! Nice try though. Her last several albums have done horrendously there (barely going top 10 at best in some cases)- so, ok, if its her 3rd largest market, the #s that consist of, arent much to brag about..just sayin LOL. Hero went to #1 Wrong. Hero is #7, not even top 5.
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Post by switchblade on Nov 16, 2010 7:29:51 GMT -5
Crap. The UK is her third biggest market. lmao! Than why has she always struggled to score original #1 songs? How many does she have? ZERO. Her only two #1 songs were both covers and one of them was with WESTLIFE- who Tiffany or Stacy Q couldve dueted with an it still woulda been #1- thats how big "they" were LOL! Nice try though. Her last several albums have done horrendously there (barely going top 10 at best in some cases)- so, ok, if its her 3rd largest market, the #s that consist of, arent much to brag about..just sayin LOL. "Everybody Hurts" went #1. So that makes 3?! No?!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2010 8:01:39 GMT -5
The UK has always been a bit reluctant to embrace Mariah with the exception of the Music Box era, but she has had fairly consistent success here since her debut, even though she's never really been seen as top of the game. I'd say that many people still knows "Hero," "Without You," "All I Want For Christmas," and "We Belong Together" as being her signature songs, with AIWFCIY being the most played Xmas song of the past decade and an X Factor cover of "Hero" actually going to #1 on the charts and finishing at #19 on the UK's top songs of the decade chart (though granted it was a charity single and performed by the X Factor). Also, her compilation albums have sold quite well in the UK - both #1's and Greatest Hits have sold over 750,000 according the MDJ and The Ballads has sold over 300,000. MDJ has her UK album sales total at 7.5 million, which probably would be her third biggest market after the US (~63 million) and Japan (~18 million). With that said, though, Memoirs was by far her worst performing album in the UK, partly because of the delayed release date they had for the album and the fact that they sent out one single (the wrong single) and sent it out way too late. 63 + 18 + 7.5 = 88.5 million Since MDJ declared she had sold 200 million, where's the rest of 111.5 million? ??? 200 million records! According to MDJ, she has shipped around 145m albums: - 65-70m in the US - over 25m in Asia - over 25m in Europe - around 5m in Australia/NZ - at least 5m in Latin America - around 5m in Canada
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Post by worldwide on Nov 16, 2010 8:27:07 GMT -5
Wrong. Hero is #7, not even top 5. Wrong. X factor version went to #1 and since she is a writer it counts. So that's 3 #1's and 2 #1's where she is credited as a performer.
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Post by switchblade on Nov 16, 2010 8:42:40 GMT -5
Wrong. Hero is #7, not even top 5. Wrong. X factor version went to #1 and since she is a writer it counts. So that's 3 #1's and 2 #1's where she is credited as a performer. Since she sang a line in "Everybody Hurts", so that makes 4 #1's?
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Post by weaver on Nov 16, 2010 8:56:06 GMT -5
???Your comment does not even make any sense in response to what I wrote. I know neither why you feel the need to resurrect this subject, nor what half of what you wrote is even all about. I never brought any of it up, I simply expressed the desire to move on from such negative discussion. I'm not in here to talk about Whitney, or how many times she miscarried or any of that nonsense. I encourage you to take your own advice and "build a bridge and get over it" as well as stay out of this thread if you are not interested in Mariah, which you have said you are not. Have an amazing day. Oh so you now Whitney's doctor! I can't! Those were not the reasons she had miscarriages. There is no information in the public domain that stated she miscarried because she was 'too thin' , smoking or on drugs. In fact, she has not smoked while pregnant. She was born naturally thin. Have you seen pictures of her !That is why she was a natural fit as a model. Thiness is not a contraindication to having a baby. If you insist on this malarkey, i guess Mariah lost her baby from excessive intake of alcohol *insert sarcasm* here. You know exactly what you were doing with your lies. The subject was resurrected because several people commented on my comments and refused to acknowledge that it was Mariah fans who brought up Whitney's name including YOU and not myself or Bojangles. This subject lives now because of your persistant lies! You stay blessed!! You are not a moderator to tell anyone stay out of a thread. How about you quit telling lies about Whitney. Having said that, looking forward to see her Hits prediction for this week charts! What the f**k are you smoking? Did you quote the wrong post? I didn't say anything like that!??
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Post by leoapp on Nov 16, 2010 9:11:12 GMT -5
#61 UK midweek Her lowest charting album in UK was Charmbracelet (#52)
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