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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 16, 2010 9:14:27 GMT -5
Songwriter credits would count when tallying No. 1 hits as a songwriter- that's a different category than performer (obviously).
Mimi has been one of the most successful female acts in the UK- the level of success isn't as high as in the USA (in terms of both albums and singles chart success), but that doesn't detract from that success.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 16, 2010 9:25:55 GMT -5
Mediabase Update
All I Want For Christmas Is You: 4.728m (+ 1.006m) Oh Santa: 0.347m
AIWFC's typical annual peak is between 40m-50m? Then, it's at roughly 10% of its typical annual peak.
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Post by worldwide on Nov 16, 2010 10:16:10 GMT -5
Wrong. X factor version went to #1 and since she is a writer it counts. So that's 3 #1's and 2 #1's where she is credited as a performer. Since she sang a line in "Everybody Hurts", so that makes 4 #1's? No since she's not credited as a performer or songwriter/producer.
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Post by colson on Nov 16, 2010 10:25:00 GMT -5
Mediabase UpdateAll I Want For Christmas Is You: 4.728m (+ 1.006m) Oh Santa: 0.347m AIWFC's typical annual peak is between 40m-50m? Then, it's at roughly 10% of its typical annual peak. I wonder how AIWFCIY's popularity is going to effect Oh Santa. I mean if you realistically look at it, OS, doesn't really have a chance on radio, at least not this season.
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Post by will on Nov 16, 2010 10:29:24 GMT -5
When Christmas comes will be the classic on the album. More than oh santa. IMO
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 16, 2010 10:31:43 GMT -5
AIWFCIY is always going to be there, so it's not going to have it any easier any other season. AIWFCIY is one of the most-played holiday tracks, so radio won't be giving it up.
The only other track on the Merry Christmas album that garners some airplay is "Christmas (baby Please Come Home)," but still not comparable to AIWFCIY. being the single (and first video), I'd expect OS to garner more airplay than other tracks on the album. She also did a video to "O Come All Ye Faithful/Hallelujah," but I don't see that getting a load of radio play.
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Post by mcmariah on Nov 16, 2010 10:34:00 GMT -5
as long as the album keeps coming back in future christmases i'll be happy, i don't care if it does gigantic numbers this time around, as long as it eventually does them. it's a great album, better than MC1 imo in a lot of ways and deserves success
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 16, 2010 10:36:16 GMT -5
Well, it's unlikely going to do "gigantic" numbers over time (meaning, it's not going to sell as well as the first Christmas album), it should definitely do decent business around holidays time.
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Post by leoapp on Nov 16, 2010 11:16:00 GMT -5
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Nov 16, 2010 11:24:34 GMT -5
fake, people love making sh!t up.
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Post by weaver on Nov 16, 2010 12:11:11 GMT -5
Can't open at work. What does it say?
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Post by worldwide on Nov 16, 2010 12:17:59 GMT -5
Can't open at work. What does it say? That she's been cheating nick with a bodyguard.
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Post by grouper6 on Nov 16, 2010 12:18:37 GMT -5
How old are you? 8? Whitney was brought up by 2 mariah fans @bebee who brought up whitney's miscarriage and tried to throw shade and them mcfan who stated that mariah is not like whitney who had 5 miscarriages due to weed, smoking and a constant state of being thin all of which is erroneous. Quit being selective with your admonitions!The Whitney references were by Mariah fans who were both out of line. Now that it's news that mariah had a miscarriage doesn't seen so nice does it"! Again, this is a chart thread which I stated a chart opinion after I corrected the outright lie about Whitney. AGain, don't care what mariah does as to her travel/promotion/wearing heels as it's her life and i'm sure she's not reading this site to see what i think. build a bridge and get over it! since i was one of the mcfans ur mentioning, i only brought whit up cause at that stage that one poster was here and just saying that she should do this this and this. then i found out he was a whit fan, so i was explaining to him how mc's situation is different than his fav's situation. and i still stand behind what i say, whit had all these miscarriages because of all the factors mentioned and therefore his "fear" for mc's pregnancy comes from the wrong place. p.s. i wasn't throwing shade, i was mentioning facts. it's a sad world u live in if u think mentioning facts is throwing shade. whitney's "bad" life around her miscarriages included: - DRUGS - weight issues (too thin at times) - stressful home (relationships included) - plus a possibility of family genetics mariah's "bad" life during pregnancy include: - Wearing heals. please move on. now on topic 2nd week chart 40.05% 20,754 #10See my response to your persistant lies addressed to weaver - they were meant for you. Whitney didnt' miscarry for any of those reasons and there is no documentation i nthe public domain for that. Like I said with your selective memory, add alcohol abuse to Mariah's reason for miscarrying *insert sarcasm** Now, we can move on.!
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Nov 16, 2010 12:20:35 GMT -5
Can't open at work. What does it say? That she's been cheating nick with a bodyguard. And that the baby could possibly not be Nick's but instead it could be the....ton ton ton... Bodyguard's
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Post by leoapp on Nov 16, 2010 12:20:51 GMT -5
Can't open at work. What does it say?
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Post by grouper6 on Nov 16, 2010 12:21:17 GMT -5
Oh so you now Whitney's doctor! I can't! Those were not the reasons she had miscarriages. There is no information in the public domain that stated she miscarried because she was 'too thin' , smoking or on drugs. In fact, she has not smoked while pregnant. She was born naturally thin. Have you seen pictures of her !That is why she was a natural fit as a model. Thiness is not a contraindication to having a baby. If you insist on this malarkey, i guess Mariah lost her baby from excessive intake of alcohol *insert sarcasm* here. You know exactly what you were doing with your lies. The subject was resurrected because several people commented on my comments and refused to acknowledge that it was Mariah fans who brought up Whitney's name including YOU and not myself or Bojangles. This subject lives now because of your persistant lies! You stay blessed!! You are not a moderator to tell anyone stay out of a thread. How about you quit telling lies about Whitney. Having said that, looking forward to see her Hits prediction for this week charts! What the f**k are you smoking? Did you quote the wrong post? I didn't say anything like that!?? Yes, I quoted the wrong post. i apologize to you. My comments were meant to McMariah. **moving on!
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Post by grouper6 on Nov 16, 2010 12:23:03 GMT -5
^^I don't believe that story. These gossip sites outright make up complete lies. It's a bit ridiculous!
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Post by weaver on Nov 16, 2010 12:49:53 GMT -5
Yeah...that's dumb I don't believe that.
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Post by Bojangles on Nov 16, 2010 13:02:28 GMT -5
Crap.
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Post by will on Nov 16, 2010 13:02:39 GMT -5
Mediabase UpdateAll I Want For Christmas Is You: 4.728m (+ 1.006m) Oh Santa: 0.347m AIWFC's typical annual peak is between 40m-50m? Then, it's at roughly 10% of its typical annual peak. I think with the huge promo for her Christmas album that AIWFC will sell more than previous years. I can see AIWFC sell 150k on itunes + over 60-70 airplay. IMO
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Post by stevyy on Nov 16, 2010 13:08:49 GMT -5
#61 in UK midweeks is a huge shock, because after all it's Mariah Carey we are talking about.
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Post by Leigh on Nov 16, 2010 13:53:17 GMT -5
^It is a shock until you realise that some smartarse thought it was a good idea to sell the album exclusively with one store who hasn't even bothered to put it in their New Releases section or on display anywhere in their stores, and there is no promo up instore. Instead, it is put amongst Mariah's back-catalog of albums, so you have to go looking for it. Not even any ads for it up on their website...Nobody knows this album exists here! Seriously, who negotiates an exclusivity deal like that??!
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Post by shadrach01 on Nov 16, 2010 14:19:35 GMT -5
#61 in UK midweeks is a huge shock, because after all it's Mariah Carey we are talking about. No, it's not. Did you see where Charmbracelet placed. And, she did a HUGE amount of European promo for that one.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Nov 16, 2010 14:33:53 GMT -5
That fake article is a mess!! smfh
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Post by hidizzyguy on Nov 16, 2010 15:10:41 GMT -5
Being that we are on Page 93, should we start a Part II of this thread before her heavy promo begins?
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Post by mcmariah on Nov 16, 2010 15:12:32 GMT -5
nm.
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Post by Bojangles on Nov 16, 2010 15:33:37 GMT -5
Based on NME.com this is the top 50 selling albums ever
1. Micheal Jackson, 'Thriller' (1982). Copies sold: 110 million 2. AC/DC, 'Back In Black' (1980). Copies sold: 49 million 3. Pink Floyd, 'Dark Side of the Moon' (1973). Copies sold: 45 million 4. Whitney Houston/Various Artists, 'The Bodyguard' (1992). Copies sold: 44 million 5. Meat Loaf, 'Bat Out Of Hell' (1977). Copies sold: 43 million 6. Eagles, 'Their Greatest Hits (1971-1975)' (1976). Copies sold: 42 million 7. Various Artists, 'Dirty Dancing' (1987). Copies sold: 42 million 8. Backstreet Boys, 'Millennium' (1999). Copies sold: 40 million 9. Bee Gees/Various Artists, 'Saturday Night Fever' (1977). Copies sold: 40 million 10. Fleetwood Mac, 'Rumours' (1977). Copies sold: 40 million 11. Shania Twain, 'Come On Over' (1997). Copies sold: 39 million 12. Led Zeppelin, 'Led Zeppelin IV' (1971). Copies sold: 37 million 13. Alanis Morissette, 'Jagged Little Pill' (1995). Copies sold: 33 million 14. The Beatles, 'Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band' (1967). Copies sold: 32 million 15. Celine Dion, 'Falling Into You' (1996). Copies sold: 32 million 16. Mariah Carey, 'Music Box' (1993). Copies sold: 32 million 17. Micheal Jackson, 'Dangerous' (1991). Copies sold: 32 million 18. The Beatles, '1' (2000). Copies sold: 31 million 19. Celine Dion, 'Let's Talk About Love' (1997). Copies sold: 31 million 20. Elton John, 'Goodbye Yellow Brick Road' (1973). Copies sold: 31 million 21. Bee Gees, 'Spirits Having Flown' (1979). Copies sold: 30 million 22. Bruce Springsteen, 'Born in the U.S.A.' (1984). Copies sold: 30 million 23. Dire Straits, 'Brothers In Arms' (1985). Copies sold: 30 million 24. James Horner, 'Titanic' (1997). Copies sold: 30 million 25. Madonna, 'The Immaculate Collection' (1990). Copies sold: 30 million 26. Micheal Jackson, 'Bad' (1987). Copies sold: 30 million 27. Pink Floyd, 'The Wall' (1979). Copies sold: 30 million 28. Abba, 'Gold' (1992). Copies sold: 28 million 29. Backstreet Boys, 'Backstreet's Back' (1997). Copies sold: 28 million 30. Bon Jovi, 'Slippery When Wet' (1986). Copies sold: 28 million 31. Guns N' Roses, 'Appetite For Destruction' (1987). Copies sold: 28 million 32. Various Artists, 'Grease' (1978). Copies sold: 28 million 33. Santana, 'Supernatural' (1999). Copies sold: 27 million 34. Nirvana, 'Nevermind' (1991). Copies sold: 26 million 35. Britney Spears, '...Baby One More Time' (1999). Copies sold: 25 million 36. Carole King, 'Tapestry' (1971). Copies sold: 25 million 37. Iron Butterfly, 'In-A-Gadda-da-Vida' (1968). Copies sold: 25 million 38. Mariah Carey, 'Daydream' (1995). Copies sold: 25 million 39. Queen, 'Greatest Hits' (1981). Copies sold: 25 million 40. Simon and Garfunkel, 'Bridge Over Troubled Water' (1970). Copies sold: 25 million 41. U2, 'The Joshua Tree' (1987). Copies sold: 25 million 42. Whitney Houston, 'Whitney Houston' (1985). Copies sold: 25 million 43. Backstreet Boys, 'Black and Blue' (2000). Copies sold: 24 million 44. Linkin Park, 'Hybrid Theory' (2000). Copies sold: 24 million 45. Madonna, 'True Blue' (1986). Copies sold: 24 million 46. Ace of Base, 'Happy Nation' (1994). Copies sold: 23 million 47. Spice Girls, 'Spice' (1996). Copies sold: 23 million 48. Oasis, '(What's the Story) Morning Glory?' (1995). Copies sold: 22 million 49. Dido, 'No Angel' (1999). Copies sold: 21 million 50. Madonna's 'Like A Virgin' (1984). Copies sold: 21 million.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2010 16:19:55 GMT -5
Sales for this week
4 14 MARIAH CAREY ISLAND/IDJMG 30,337 -46% MERRY CHRISTMAS II YOU
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Post by stevyy on Nov 16, 2010 16:25:29 GMT -5
-46% is a great result..
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 16, 2010 16:30:19 GMT -5
Holiday albums usually don't drop that much, percentage wise, in their second weeks, so I wouldn't categorize it as "great" (I had posted how other holiday albums in recent years performed in their second weeks in the HITS thread).
No matter, though, as the album will enjoy a handful of strong sales weeks.
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