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Post by dzjx on Jan 17, 2012 18:56:54 GMT -5
OMG whats with everyone saying they will report him? everyone is allowed their own opinions, im starting to think Pulse is turning into the thought police.
and to be honest i see his point, yeah she has had a good few hits, but not like Katy Perry who is known for her singles rather than the albums.
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Post by dzjx on Jan 17, 2012 15:25:56 GMT -5
I'm sure Britney did the same thing, release the 2nd best song on the album first and then release the bigger hit, thats not just my opinion i thought i read it somewhere or they said it in an interview.
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Post by dzjx on Jan 16, 2012 21:22:52 GMT -5
Erm.... 60 million? for that? it looks like it was cheaper than a south park episode, seriously, were animations really that bad in 2002? so i really doubt it will be released, or if it will it will be like just to itunes or something.
any more updates on her recording? im happy she is doing things her way and songs she wants to do without a record company, I wonder if she will set up her own label to release it, or will she shop it to a label when its finished
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Post by dzjx on Jan 14, 2012 23:45:29 GMT -5
C'mon Selzy keep going!!!
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Post by dzjx on Jan 12, 2012 18:21:57 GMT -5
Didnt Kylie once say that if she had a movie made about her Hilary looks like her or something like that ^^ also, that video of Aaron Carter was cringeworthy to be honest, i dont know why it just made me cringe. All these updates are just amazing, i didnt want to let myself believe it when she first started talking about music incase she changed her mind, but god i still keep thinking something will go wrong and we won't get any more music. these updates are amazing though, she seems really excited about it, im thinking she will give a spring/summer '13 release, I wish I had a time machine.
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Post by dzjx on Jan 11, 2012 19:17:55 GMT -5
I think she just wants to do pop, like mainstream top 40 pop, thats what she says in interviews,''anything with a good hook that is catchy'' she wants to do, and has cited Robyn - who i absolutely love (i dont think shes popular on this forum however) as a direction she wants to go in, can't wait, just hope with the baby and everything she'll get to promote it enough
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Post by dzjx on Jan 10, 2012 18:44:46 GMT -5
if she was on a real record label, I would've liked to see her singles go... 1. Who Says 2. Love You Like A Love Song 3. We Own The Night 4. Hit The Lights 5. That's More Like It I agree with that list but not 'That's More Like It' i think that song is while catchy probably the most childish and teen-ish on the album and i don't see radio picking it up and could set her back after the radio success she's had with more mature songs like LYLAS, I'd rather see Bang Bang Bang as the last single. I actually like every song on this album unlike AYWR, this is probably tied as my favorite album from her with K&T.
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Post by dzjx on Jan 9, 2012 19:47:30 GMT -5
I agree whiplash is really overrated, i think it has something to do with britney's writing credit on it. I think middle of nowhere or when the sun goes down, but i really want we own the night to be released, even though i know that a 4th single will never happen, but maybe it will if HTL smashes! <--- HR have got to learn about releasing more than 2/3 singles sometime!
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Post by dzjx on Jan 8, 2012 18:45:57 GMT -5
Have they managed to ship this album gold? i doubt it will actually reach 500k, thats the most optimistic thing i think ive read all week :L
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Post by dzjx on Jan 8, 2012 8:17:28 GMT -5
listened to this and don't see it really doing much, i looked at their discography as well on wikipedia, i was surprised to see that their 3 albums didnt do as well as i thought they did here in the UK, i mean i only own Move Along, and i also thought Dirty Little Secret did far better than it actually did cause like everyone over here knows that song. I didnt know GYH did so well either.
But yeah i dont really see this song doing much :/
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Post by dzjx on Jan 6, 2012 21:02:07 GMT -5
if she does release a new album next year which im hoping to god that she will!! where do you think it will peak on the 200/what sales do you see it doing?
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Post by dzjx on Jan 6, 2012 19:51:00 GMT -5
I'm just saying that Justin doesn't compare to the Beatles or Hilary Duff.
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Post by dzjx on Jan 5, 2012 19:06:58 GMT -5
this came on in a club and one of my friends thought it was ''we found love in a homeless place'' :/
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Post by dzjx on Jan 5, 2012 19:01:52 GMT -5
I dont really like any of the singles off this album, but this is the one that i do like and i thought it would have done better, but what struck me most is that she's burned through 5 singles in like 9 months or something, shouldnt they pace themselves this era to ensure consistent albums sales?? like i thought it was common practice to have on single out each quarter, or is this not right?
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Post by dzjx on Jan 5, 2012 18:56:40 GMT -5
I wish she wouldve made the most out of this era and really done a lot of heavy promotion, but maybe one of the reasons why people like her is because she isnt everywhere and in your face like a lot of other singers are, i just cant help but think if she would have gone 110% on promotion then it couldve garnered a lot of sales.
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Post by dzjx on Jan 5, 2012 18:38:39 GMT -5
When will the new album come out?? are they still active or on hiatus?
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Post by dzjx on Jan 5, 2012 18:23:44 GMT -5
ANYWAY............ does it matter if selena will be able to translate into an adult star?? well no, because she has said on many occasions that she won't be making music after a few more CD's, although i imagine she only said that because she wasn't even sure that her music would sell as she got older, but if it does then she might continue with it.
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Post by dzjx on Jan 4, 2012 20:48:32 GMT -5
I really hate her, always have, but im gonna say Christina will have the big comeback, the other two have already had their big comeback, Christina hasnt and with some hype she might be able to pull it off.
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Post by dzjx on Jan 4, 2012 20:12:55 GMT -5
^ It isn't the choreographers who have been lacking; it's Britney. She refuses to do any intricate choreography and forces them to dumb down the steps for her. Her back-up dancers do the full choreography while she does the watered-down version. Her excuse is that she's a mother now and she doesn't have the time to learn complicated choreography. So, in short, she and her team could bring Wade back, but it wouldn't make a difference. I think ever since she injured her knee in 2004, she's been afraid to do any sort of remotely challenging leg routine. That's one of the reasons she's lost her fluidity as a dancer. I don't like this excuse about the knee to be honest, watch her performance of Circus on GMA in 2008, she performed really well and it didn't look lacklustre at all, so why can't she do that anymore? i think she just needs to slim down a lot more, because whatever people say and defend her, she was a lot bigger this era than previous.
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Post by dzjx on Jan 4, 2012 20:03:16 GMT -5
Why does she have to have all things like gaga...
early 2009 the fame november 2009 the fame monster april 2010 remix album may 2011 btw
early 2010 animal november 2010 cannibal april 2011 remix album may 2012 new album
so its like the same as Gaga's career but one year later. and i knew as soon as she released that remix album, i thought oh ok i see, i know we will have her album next may then.
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Post by dzjx on Jan 4, 2012 19:53:56 GMT -5
I really was only saying that there are artists who have appealed to 12 year olds who have gone on to have lasting careers. I used the biggest act in the world because I thought that would be difficult to argue with. I wasn't trying to start an argument. There are plenty of other artists who have carved musical careers out of appealing to tweens and teens both initially and long term. Obviously the world is a very different place now, and what you're responding to isn't exactly what I was saying, but you bring up an interesting point. However, one of the reasons I'm so interested in how Justin's adult career unfolds is actually because of the cultural context. I think, if harnessed correctly, the way his internet fanbase is exploited could become a blueprint for the next phase of the music business. With the way album sales are shrinking and digital downloads and EPs are now driving music, the industry is looking for ways to reposition itself and is perhaps struggling a bit. If done correctly, the way Justin's people transfer the power of the Belieber and the internet into record sales (or a workable model for making a profit from music) could be culturally significant in its own (lesser than the Beatles) way. It's a very exciting time for the future of the way music is delivered and the industry operates and, like it or not, Justin Bieber could be driving that. I hate to bring her up, but Lady GaGa kind of started that with her mosters or whatever.
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Post by dzjx on Jan 4, 2012 16:05:08 GMT -5
when i was a kid i used to hear Im like a bird and Turn off the light all the time on the radio, then the next thing i heard from her was Maneater which i downloaded, then say it right which i got as well. then about 2 years ago i looked up her first songs and downloaded Whoa , Nelly! which is a great album, i also found out she had released Folklore all those years ago and id never heard about it, still havent bought it but i love try and one trick pony. and now im eagerly waiting for this new album!! i hope it does well, but im going to predict it selling around 1.5m worldwide at the end of its run. just based on the marketplace and the fact that it has been 6 years!
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Post by dzjx on Jan 4, 2012 15:31:32 GMT -5
she needs to pump out the albums while theyl sell, lord knows she only has a few years on the clock.
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Post by dzjx on Jan 3, 2012 20:57:03 GMT -5
I'll meet you back here and five years time and we'll see who's right. I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree and drop it before we get bitched at for going off topic. yeah, i really do think il be right on this one, but I've been wrong before, so we'll see. :)
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Post by dzjx on Jan 3, 2012 20:32:01 GMT -5
I hear you guys complaining but don't see an argument for beiber. ;) Justin Bieber is one of the most successful artists of the last few years. You say Selena has consistency, but Justin's albums have not just sold consistently, but consistently MORE than Selena's. You say his biggest pop hit peaking at #17 is a sign he's not destined to do anything. Well isn't Selena only just now scoring her first top ten? dzjx said he can't build a career out of telling twelve year old girl what they want to hear. Plenty of successful artists have built long careers out of doing just that. Then he's saying Justin won't transition into the adult market because adults hate him, but his fans will also grow out of him? Surely that's a contradiction in terms? Shockingly, his fans will grow up too. They will actually gain spending power. Even if he never gains a single fan over his age (and I think the suggestion that he doesn't have any fans who aren't children is wrong anyway), he'll keep the ageing fans he has while every new crop of tweens and teens coming up goes crazy for him. Older teens and young adults are notoriously fickle, but that makes them very easy to win over with the right strategy. If Justin comes out with a solid, radio-friendly mainstream pop album (which is guaranteed) having had a makeover then I don't doubt the young adults making fun of him now will be blasting his new single in the car and at parties too. Justin has one of, if not the single most dedicated and obsessed fanbases of any active artist today. Any record label would KILL to have that to harness. Saying his hype is inflated to sustain his career doesn't even make sense. By definition hype is incredibly difficult to sustain. If it was that easy to create consistent hype to boost someone's career, everybody would do it. His existing fans, many of which have been gained since his last regular album, will go crazy over whatever he puts out. Whether you like it or not, Beliebers own the internet and are the most savvy fanbase in existence. So you can guarantee that even if the whole campaign goes drastically wrong the album and first single will sell. However, Justin's people are working hard to pull off the trick of whoring him out to his core base with remix albums, while proving ground for his adult career with the Christmas album and keeping him out of the way of 'haters' by having not had him release a proper album in almost two years. That's an impressive trick. They're waiting for him to grow up and become more acceptable to an adult crowd while keeping his existing fans rabid. They're also having him work with the biggest names in pop. By the time his upcoming album comes out his voice will have broken and he'll be 18. I would be very surprised if a mini Justin Timberlake didn't emerge later this year ready to own pop music for a while. That's the argument for Bieber. ''dzjx said he can't build a career out of telling twelve year old girl what they want to hear. Plenty of successful artists have built long careers out of doing just that.'' Please name a few? ''Then he's saying Justin won't transition into the adult market because adults hate him, but his fans will also grow out of him? Surely that's a contradiction in terms?'' Nope, not a contradiction at all, im not sure where you got that, im saying that his current fan base will out grow him ie when they start to become young adults they won't still like him, and all the young adults now dont like him and i dont think ever will, even if he has a huge image overhaul, he will still be 'Justin Bieber' which in our culture has become such a negative think it is constantly used as an insult, e.g. he looks like justin beiber, he sounds like justin beiber. so i dont think he will be able to transition to the adult market. his beliebers will out grow him!! yes his next era will be successful, but lets see where he is 5 years from now.
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Post by dzjx on Jan 3, 2012 19:39:50 GMT -5
Im sorry but i don't see this doing much, i was hoping for the DeRulo feature to be released. plus HWR will find some way to screw it up somehow anyway! That song should never, under no circumstances, be released as a single. I thought someone might say that lol, but not because its my favorite from the album, because its not. its probably my 5th favorite and i do really like it, but i thought it might do quite well with derulo as a feature, she never really seems to do any good at radio i thought they might pick it up with him on.
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Post by dzjx on Jan 3, 2012 19:18:21 GMT -5
And they cite his mediocre voice as a sign of future failure while backing a breakout era for Selena Gomez. I never cited his horrible voice, i think he can definately sing, but unless i see some progress in his work and maturity, instead of songs telling 12 year old girls what they want to hear. I just don't see him going into the adult market well because the fact is that most adults hate him!! and he can't make teen pop forever because it just doesnt work when someone entering their 20's is still singing ''girl youre my one love, my one heart, my one life for sure'' - (yes i had to google that) and that is my reason as to why I dont think he will have much success in the future! unless he can get 70% of people who are 18+ to change their minds about him and suddenly like him, but i just don't see it.
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Post by dzjx on Jan 3, 2012 19:08:09 GMT -5
Im sorry but i don't see this doing much, i was hoping for the DeRulo feature to be released. plus HWR will find some way to screw it up somehow anyway!
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Post by dzjx on Jan 3, 2012 19:02:24 GMT -5
Im a bit annoyed that people on here seem to think beiber has staying power and potential, you'll see what happens in a few years when his fan base are sick of him.
Selena on the other hand, IF she can continue to make great pop music, then she has the real staying power as, first of all she doesnt have all this negative press that beiber gets, and secondly radio seems to keep warming to her more and more, and as said above her album sales are really consistent. i wasnt sure if she will be able to have much staying power once her disney days are over and there is a new bunch of kids out, but i think she might actually be able to break the trend and continue a good successful music career, that is, if she ditches HWR as soon as she can, they have a way of turning on their leading ladies once they have younger stars to make!
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Post by dzjx on Jan 3, 2012 17:29:45 GMT -5
bit off topic for the song, but she needs to extend the tour and include europe and promote a bit while there, it could create some good buzz for HTL, which im hoping will smash internationally!
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