Cerebro
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Post by Cerebro on Nov 29, 2012 12:08:03 GMT -5
Taylor Swift guest hosts this week. It's bad timing, I guess, that she hosts the same week that her song starts dropping. Or, maybe, the producers were a tad optimistic and were hoping that the song would be #1 when her weekend came around. If I were a betting man, I'd say that "I Knew You Were Trouble" will, probably, be played as an extra. We'll find out Saturday.
The chart is, still, a bit behind (guest host and holiday related, I'm sure). I'm hoping for a bit more "catch up" when Ryan returns next week.
AMERICAN TOP 40 - DECEMBER 1, 2012 LW TW WKS Artist - Title 35 40 (07) Rita Ora featuring Tinie Tempah - R.I.P. 39 39 (03) Bridgit Mendler - Ready Or Not 37 38 (34) Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe -- 37 (01) Pitbull featuring TJR - Don't Stop The Party -- 36 (01) Justin Bieber featuring Nicki Minaj - Beauty And A Beat 34 35 (30) Maroon 5 featuring Wiz Khalifa - Payphone -- 34 (01) Ellie Goulding - Anything Could Happen 36 33 (04) The Script featuring Will.I.Am - Hall Of Fame 31 32 (35) Gotye featuring Kimbra - Somebody That I Used To Know 40 31 (02) Swedish House Mafia featuring John Martin - Don't You Worry Child Breakout: Pink - Try Optional Extra: B.o.B. featuring Taylor Swift - Both Of Us 29 30 (29) Rihanna - Where Have You Been 24 29 (10) Christina Aguilera - Your Body 33 28 (03) The Lumineers - Ho Hey Breakout: Kelly Clarkson - Catch My Breath 27 27 (28) David Guetta featuring Sia - Titanium 38 26 (02) Nicki Minaj - Va Va Voom 26 25 (04) Ed Sheeran - The A Team 25 24 (09) OneRepublic - Feel Again 23 23 (26) Katy Perry - Wide Awake 22 22 (21) Flo Rida - Whistle 20 21 (31) Demi Lovato - Give Your Heart A Break Optional Extra: Taylor Swift - Red 19 20 (12) Train - 50 Ways To Say Goodbye On The Verge: Cher Lloyd featuring Becky G - Oath 16 19 (33) Ellie Goulding - Lights 21 18 (06) Phillip Phillips - Home 17 17 (08) One Direction - Live While We're Young 15 16 (28) Neon Trees - Everybody Talks 18 15 (05) Flo Rida - I Cry 12 14 (09) PSY - Gangnam Style 11 13 (20) Owl City and Carly Rae Jepsen - Good Time 13 12 (10) Enrique Iglesias featuring Sammy Adams - Finally Found You 08 11 (19) Pink - Blow Me (One Last Kiss) Optional Extra: Avril Lavigne - Complicated 14 10 (06) Bruno Mars - Locked Out Of Heaven 10 09 (07) Rihanna - Diamonds 09 08 (11) Ne-Yo - Let Me Love You (Until You Learn To Love Yourself) 06 07 (15) Chris Brown - Don't Wake Me Up 07 06 (08) Ke$ha - Die Young 04 05 (18) Justin Bieber featuring Big Sean - As Long As You Love Me 05 04 (18) Alex Clare - Too Close 02 03 (13) Taylor Swift - We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together Optional Extra: Katy Perry - Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.) 03 02 (17) Fun. - Some Nights 01 01 (17) Maroon 5 - One More Night ** 7 weeks @ no. 1 **
DROPPERS: Trey Songz featuring T.I. - 2 Reasons (from 32, 9 weeks on) David Guetta featuring Chris Brown and Lil' Wayne - I Can Only Imagine (from 30, 10 weeks on) Usher - Numb (from 28, 7 weeks on)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2012 12:36:53 GMT -5
The chart is extremely late!!! Like, 3 weeks late now.
I was pleasantly surprised to see "Your Body" only dropping 24-29. I was expecting it to drop in the low 30s. It will most likely be gone next week though :(
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Post by mkarns on Nov 29, 2012 16:23:53 GMT -5
Taylor Swift guest hosts this week. It's bad timing, I guess, that she hosts the same week that her song starts dropping. Or, maybe, the producers were a tad optimistic and were hoping that the song would be #1 when her weekend came around. If I were a betting man, I'd say that "I Knew You Were Trouble" will, probably, be played as an extra. We'll find out Saturday. Judging from the Mediabase lists, I thought Taylor would be at #2 for a third week but not #1. I'd like to see "Some Nights" hit #1, but that also doesn't look likely. I think next week Maroon 5 get one more week on top, and an 8th week for "One More Night" would make it the longest running AT40 #1 since Leona Lewis' "Bleeding Love" in summer 2008. The next #1 will most likely be "Die Young", as I guess it, but unless there's a big "catch up" shift next week I don't foresee a 6-1 jump. Stranger things have happened though...
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Post by johnnywest on Nov 29, 2012 20:19:08 GMT -5
The next #1 will most likely be "Die Young", as I guess it, but unless there's a big "catch up" shift next week I don't foresee a 6-1 jump. Stranger things have happened though... Yes, that happened with Iyaz in 2010. He jumped from #7 to #1. Madonna and Whitney both made bigger leaps to the top.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2012 22:50:16 GMT -5
The next #1 will most likely be "Die Young", as I guess it, but unless there's a big "catch up" shift next week I don't foresee a 6-1 jump. Stranger things have happened though... Yes, that happened with Iyaz in 2010. He jumped from #7 to #1. Madonna and Whitney both made bigger leaps to the top. Are you talking about Mediabase or AT40? Iyaz jumped 4-1 on AT40. www.at40.com/top-40/chart/4610
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Post by mkarns on Nov 29, 2012 23:07:29 GMT -5
Yes, that happened with Iyaz in 2010. He jumped from #7 to #1. Madonna and Whitney both made bigger leaps to the top. Are you talking about Mediabase or AT40? Iyaz jumped 4-1 on AT40. www.at40.com/top-40/chart/4610"Replay" hit #1 on the January 9, 2010, AT40 after being at #8 on the last previous regular countdown (for December 12, 2009), which may be what he's referring to. However, I don't think that really should count as the chart was supposedly "frozen" for three weeks while year-end and decade-end specials were aired. Under regular movement (if there had been regular AT40s aired during the intervening three weeks) it would likely have made a more gradual move to #1. Also, the charts put up at the AT40 website don't exactly match what Ryan (or a guest host) actually counted down and was played at the time. Those charts are archived in the weekly threads on this board.
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Post by dth1971 on Dec 1, 2012 15:58:30 GMT -5
Once again, "All I Need Is Love" by Ceelo Green and the Muppets gets shafted from the AT40 chart and all extras - breakout and verge and optional.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Dec 1, 2012 19:51:11 GMT -5
Once again, "All I Need Is Love" by Ceelo Green and the Muppets gets shafted from the AT40 chart and all extras - breakout and verge and optional. Once again, why are you expecting it?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2012 20:52:53 GMT -5
Once again, "All I Need Is Love" by Ceelo Green and the Muppets gets shafted from the AT40 chart and all extras - breakout and verge and optional. It's hard to be shafted from something you don't qualify for.
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Post by Pink Pvssy on Dec 1, 2012 21:04:29 GMT -5
Is AT40 the same as Mediabase?
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Post by dth1971 on Dec 1, 2012 22:26:08 GMT -5
Is AT40 the same as Mediabase? AT40 uses the Mediabase no recurrent rule chart for its source with its own tricks or something like that, in the past even starting with the old Casey Kasem/Shadoe Stevens era AT40 used Billboard charts as its source then with the 1998 AT40 revival until Casey's retirement AT40 used Radio and Records charts as its source.
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Post by Cerebro on Dec 1, 2012 22:46:13 GMT -5
Is AT40 the same as Mediabase? Yes and no. Yes, AT40 uses a chart compiled by Mediabase. No, the chart is not the same as the published (and what we'd consider to be the official) Mediabase chart. The published chart is the chart that we track at All Access (and is published on americasmusiccharts.com and, in print, in USA today). Both charts have different reporting panels. AT40 only uses stations that are AT40 affiliates. The published chart has a much larger panel. The published chart has a recurrent rule (tracks are removed after 20 weeks if below the top 10). AT40 has no recurrent rule. Songs fall off when they fall off.
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Post by Pink Pvssy on Dec 1, 2012 22:52:15 GMT -5
Is AT40 the same as Mediabase? Yes and no. Yes, AT40 uses a chart compiled by Mediabase. No, the chart is not the same as the published (and what we'd consider to be the official) Mediabase chart. The published chart is the chart that we track at All Access (and is published on americasmusiccharts.com and, in print, in USA today). Both charts have different reporting panels. AT40 only uses stations that are AT40 affiliates. The published chart has a much larger panel. The published chart has a recurrent rule (tracks are removed after 20 weeks if below the top 10). AT40 has no recurrent rule. Songs fall off when they fall off. Thanks! That explains why there are so many older songs at AT40
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Post by johnnywest on Dec 1, 2012 23:22:53 GMT -5
Once again, "All I Need Is Love" by Ceelo Green and the Muppets gets shafted from the AT40 chart and all extras - breakout and verge and optional. It's hard to be shafted from something you don't qualify for. It got 4 spins at Top 40 stations last week. Didn't even make the Top 200.
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Post by mkarns on Dec 2, 2012 13:23:15 GMT -5
Only seven extras this week, less than usual, as Taylor spent a lot of time reading and answering letters from fans. Which isn't bad as a one-off or occasional feature for a guest host, but regularly I prefer the recent pattern of more extras and less talk.
There was no 2 for 1 this week, and the opening did not feature the usual recap of last week's top 3. Interestingly, when Taylor was listing some of the alternate titles fans have given for "We Are Never...", she misstated the title of her earlier hit "Love Story" (she said "Love Song".)
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Post by dth1971 on Dec 2, 2012 15:10:13 GMT -5
It's hard to be shafted from something you don't qualify for. It got 4 spins at Top 40 stations last week. Didn't even make the Top 200. Thanx for the info, not much Christmas songs released to CHR get big airplay to chart.
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Post by richie on Dec 2, 2012 15:25:32 GMT -5
We get 3 droppers but all fairly recent songs, so the are still 8 songs in the lower 20 with more than 20 weeks on here. I was surprised that both of Taylor's extras were optional. There was endless promotion of her CD, her next TV appearance, and the New Year's eve show. I thought she did a very good job. She had the staff laughing a lot, which they don't do much anymore for Ryan. And that's a good thing, because it's annoying IMO. She asks listeners to call the fan line with questions and gives out the number. Those who fell for that are probably the same people who think their "votes" get counted each week. I heard part of the Casey Kasem show from '73 today, and marvel at their foresight to keep all the old shows. Maybe in 30 or 40 years we'll be listening to classic Seacrest. Or not. Casey actually announced at the beginning of the show that there was a new #1, so these spoilers are not really new.
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Post by Cerebro on Dec 2, 2012 23:17:21 GMT -5
She asks listeners to call the fan line with questions and gives out the number. Those who fell for that are probably the same people who think their "votes" get counted each week. It always baffles me when the guest hosts do that. They do realize it's not a live show, right?
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