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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2011 13:09:31 GMT -5
Lol I knew this was coming and like I told Mario earlier, I expect a similar backlash/controversy/discussion to ensue on the internet. I love the video personally but the racial undertones are evident, and even though I take it as Bey playing a role (set in the 20's/30's), I know how surface-level the media thinks and will attack. The thing is, even if the guy was black, people would have still had a problem with it because of the fact that she's dancing for a man. Which is what the song is about...and I don't think there's nothing at all wrong with that... Indeed. I suppose my issue is that aside from the fact that D4Y is my 2nd favorite song off of 4 (after Start Over), I'm just confused as to how the video relates to the songs lyrics. Going off the song, one is led to assume that she is in an in-depth relationship with her man/boyfriend/husband and is professing her love for him through dance, which is perfectly understandable. But, I'm just unable to believe how, historically, she would be able to accomplish that in this setting. Of course, Bey has done provocative/sexual videos before, so that's not my main issue. However, historically, this video leads me to assume that she is a mistress or prostitute because, during the time period, interracial couples were not generally accepted. To me, it almost seems as if she's accepting that historical fact as something that was OK and as a representation of love. But, like I said, the video is awesome because it was pretty much perfectly shot and edited. The message does irk me, though because she had the power to create anything she wanted to relay and choose her 'role,' and with her (along with a few other superstars) I do believe it's time to start stepping up socially. Regardless, this remains my top Beyonce era because of the content and growth that is evident in the songs, at least. I get exactly where you're coming from and I'm definitely not saying that it's just a video that nobody should think about it because it's pretty obvious there's a pretty big statement there but again, this is just a role. If she's playing a prostitute in the video to the white man like it appears, she's just portraying the time period. Not actually empowering it. Think of it this way, if it was an actual movie and she was playing the same thing, would you still feel the same way? I think the majority would not. Beyonce has always been about empowering women and I think if people really trying to look in-depth at the broader picture, look at how Bey has delivered videos such as this and songs like "Run The World (Girls)" this era. Imo, there's a big empowering statement there as to how far women have come from this. The video might seem to sort of deviate from what the song is actually be about (a woman appreciating her husband to a woman dancing for a random white man in power) but the lyrics also do match up with the plot; "Loving you is really all that's on my mind".
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Nov 25, 2011 13:09:56 GMT -5
Y'all are overthinking this. This is why I love Bey & Gaga. This is why I respect women in the music industry than men. They are willing to take a risk, not play it safe, do something that others thought about, but were too afraid to accomplish. We all have our own opinions. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter b/c the video is out, we cannot change it, & we are just gonna have to deal w/it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2011 13:17:05 GMT -5
Bey & her people knew exactly what they were doing while filming this; to stir up some controversy to attract people to the video.This too. The way it abruptly ends without trying to at least rationalize what really is going on is exactly what's going to stir up a lot of TALK and differing opinions on it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2011 13:21:40 GMT -5
Wow! Love the DFY video. I'm 100% gay, but I totally needed a cold show after watching that ;)
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Post by #LisaRinna on Nov 25, 2011 13:36:13 GMT -5
I'm excited to see how Black Friday and the holidays are going to affect album sales..
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Nov 25, 2011 13:39:40 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2011 13:42:39 GMT -5
www.twitvid.com/YB0IHAccording to this video, Bey was 6 months pregnant on Sept. 23rd. It is now Nov. 25th, which mean she's 8 months pregnant. She's should have her child before the end of the year!!!!! :o :'( :'( :'( Wouldn't it be ironic/amazing if Beysus gave birth on X-Mas :'( :'( :'(
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Nov 25, 2011 13:53:08 GMT -5
www.twitvid.com/YB0IHAccording to this video, Bey was 6 months pregnant on Sept. 23rd. It is now Nov. 25th, which mean she's 8 months pregnant. She's should have her child before the end of the year!!!!! :o :'( :'( :'( Wouldn't it be ironic/amazing if Beysus gave birth on X-Mas :'( :'( :'( Oh hun :'( :'( :'(
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Post by bat1990 on Nov 25, 2011 15:24:38 GMT -5
She needs to give birth on a day that's a multiple of 4 to continue with the 4 theme.
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Post by mew2 on Nov 25, 2011 15:29:34 GMT -5
www.twitvid.com/YB0IHAccording to this video, Bey was 6 months pregnant on Sept. 23rd. It is now Nov. 25th, which mean she's 8 months pregnant. She's should have her child before the end of the year!!!!! :o :'( :'( :'( Love it!!! OMG she's so goofy!! And the baby will be here sooner than we think!!!
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Post by ALEX GONE WILD on Nov 25, 2011 18:03:12 GMT -5
It's quite sad anything racial even needs to be brought up.. who cares who is white, or who is black? She was dancing for a man.. race has nothing, and shouldn't have anything to do with it.
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Post by Jack on Nov 25, 2011 18:20:18 GMT -5
The song is called Dance For You and in the video she dances for him. Like the rest of 4, it's obvious that this song has more meaning than just having sex or dancing. You see, that's where I disagree. I think the song really is just about that. That's what the song is. It's a baby making song. An R&B slow jam, part of a million other bedroom songs of that ilk. The tempo, the production, the vocals. Slow, sexy, and Bey puts it down in the video like she did in the booth. Color me satisfied, give me a cigarette.
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Post by hidizzyguy on Nov 25, 2011 21:23:40 GMT -5
That video is sexy as hell.
And I get the premise... it's a metaphor. The song is basically, you do so much for me, that now it's my turn to pay you back.....wink wink. And I love her for it!!!
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Post by Jack on Nov 26, 2011 7:23:52 GMT -5
And I get the premise... it's a metaphor. The song is basically, you do so much for me, that now it's my turn to pay you back.....wink wink. And I love her for it!!! But what's metaphorical about that? It's very literal. I appreciate you so I'm going to dance for you (and show you a good time in the sack if it goes well).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2011 12:01:21 GMT -5
The Dance for You video was sexy ass hell. Love it. Swirlin' on my babe.
Been revisiting this all morning. Legendary. :'( No one does it like her.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2011 12:11:52 GMT -5
"Love On Top" is almost top 30 on UK iTunes and #12 in Italy I think I need to move outta the US tbqh. Her singles have been doing better elsewhere this era.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Nov 27, 2011 12:00:19 GMT -5
Italy is loving 'Love on Top'. I caught the video this morning on MTV and it was #48 on their Hit List Weekend (debut).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2011 18:45:59 GMT -5
Italy is loving 'Love on Top'. I caught the video this morning on MTV and it was #48 on their Hit List Weekend (debut). You know I'm gonna have to be your roomate right. ;)
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Nov 28, 2011 15:11:01 GMT -5
Congrats to Bey for winning Best Dance Performance for 'Run The World' at the Soul Train Awards last night
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Post by #LisaRinna on Nov 28, 2011 15:52:12 GMT -5
Congrats to Bey for winning Best Dance Performance for 'Run The World' at the Soul Train Awards last night I can't @ her losing Album of the Year to Chris Brown. smh. But congrats Bey!
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Post by 1intelligentdude on Nov 29, 2011 12:41:45 GMT -5
Dance for You is Bey doing what she does best: R&B... Loves it!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2011 21:08:36 GMT -5
Omg the quote at the top of the page makes it look like I was the one confused about DFY. Makes me look.... .....Ily element!
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Nov 29, 2011 21:31:03 GMT -5
She needs to give birth on a day that's a multiple of 4 to continue with the 4 theme. Jay-Z's birthday is December 4th
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2011 21:45:41 GMT -5
She needs to give birth on a day that's a multiple of 4 to continue with the 4 theme. Jay-Z's birthday is December 4th And her biggest fan's birthday is on March 4th!!!!1Completely addicted to Dance for You right now. Can't get enough of it. The video is my second fave video of this era behind RTW. ETA: Oops. Forgot about Countdown. Make that third fave.
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Nov 30, 2011 11:47:58 GMT -5
Congrats to Bey for winning Best Dance Performance for 'Run The World' at the Soul Train Awards last night I can't @ her losing Album of the Year to Chris Brown. smh. But congrats Bey! Just remember it won't happen at the Grammys ;)
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Post by #LisaRinna on Nov 30, 2011 12:04:13 GMT -5
Billboard: 39 48 Beyonce 4 14,130 -1% 14,263 921,416 Chart run: 1 - 1 - 5 - 4 - 5 - 8 - 7 - 9 - 12 - 7 - 9 - 20 - 25 - 23 - 20 - 24 - 21 - 28 - 32 - 39 - 48 'Party' #2 R&B #52 Hot 100 #27 Radio Songs 'Countdown' #73 Hot 100 #37 R&B 'Love On Top' #41 R&B Hot Digital Tracks 12/03 (UkMix): 80 77 BEYONCE COUNTDOWN 19,728 -2% 20,198 186,115 140 139 BEYONCE LOVE ON TOP 11,264 -9% 12,362 314,636 Billboard: 48 65 Beyonce 4 19,181 +36% 14,130 940,597 Chart run: 1 - 1 - 5 - 4 - 5 - 8 - 7 - 9 - 12 - 7 - 9 - 20 - 25 - 23 - 20 - 24 - 21 - 28 - 32 - 39 - 48 - 65 'Party' #2 R&B #52 Hot 100 #29 Radio Songs 'Countdown' #77 Hot 100 #34 R&B 'Love On Top' #28 R&B Hot Digital Tracks 12/10: 77 85 BEYONCE COUNTDOWN 19,051 -3% 19,728 205,166 139 131 BEYONCE LOVE ON TOP 12,423 +10% 11,264 327,059 Catalog Albums 12/10: -- 112 BEYONCE I AM...SASHA FIERCE 4,335 +345% 975 2,988,375
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 30, 2011 13:05:02 GMT -5
Live At Roseland: Elements Of 4 debuts at No. 2 on Top Music Videos, with 17,000.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2011 20:39:16 GMT -5
^And #3 on Soundscan.
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Post by KingB on Nov 30, 2011 20:45:11 GMT -5
the King has been verified on twitter. still 0 tweets
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Post by R.K. on Nov 30, 2011 22:57:53 GMT -5
2 Grammy nominations:
Best Sung/Rap Collaboration Best Long Form Music Video
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