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Post by jazzyskye10² on Feb 13, 2012 7:33:32 GMT -5
Mmm Hmm...So also telling LIES about Gaga is because you feel that she is an attention whore who does the same thing over and over and she loves to stroke her own ego ? Odd.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2012 7:37:03 GMT -5
Mmm Hmm...So also telling LIES about Gaga is because you feel that she is an attention whore who does the same thing over and over and she loves to stroke her own ego ? Odd. If this turns out to be false I'll take it back, but I heard various people say she did that. How am I supposed to know it's not true if I haven't heard otherwise until now?
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Post by jazzyskye10² on Feb 13, 2012 7:41:38 GMT -5
So you decided to take a swipe at Gaga based on something you heard/read but did not see yourself? I mean really but ya know what whatever...
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 13, 2012 8:34:45 GMT -5
Lmao...Some of you Aguilera Stans really be trying it. Gaga was seen getting up AFTER Adele's speech. She showed up despite knowing like the majority of us, how the night would end. I seriously can't at the grasping of straws and bitterness that still resonates. Gaga happened. Deal! Being a Christina stan has NOTHING to do with my dislike for Gaga. I think she's attention w*hore who does the same thing over and over... the size of her ego is also nauseating. Deal. Carrie doesn't do the same thing over and over? Adele doesn't? Taylor doesn't? Most singers do the same thing over and over unless they actually change it up, in which case my examples have yet to really do. Same old same old. You pick on Gaga because her "same old" is different from most. I'm also increasingly annoyed with people taking issue with her leaving before the end. Did anyone else leave? Maybe she actually had reason to leave? Unless you've spoken with her or her people, or anyone else who left early or whatever your issue of the minute is with someone, get a life. You don't know what they're thinking or their reason is for doing something so insignificant as leaving early. Really. Some people find issue with everything no matter how minuscule and stupid.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Feb 13, 2012 9:15:03 GMT -5
My only issue with Adele is she didn't pay homage to Whitney one time during her wins. Gorl, you u betta respect the American Queen. #BowDown It was funny, she championed Aretha at the beginning of the show but had a very "Oh I'll clap because I have to" face when it came to Whitney. It shows that Whitney was never an influence for Adele at all.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Feb 13, 2012 9:21:15 GMT -5
I know that I may be bias here, but the Grammys should have been called off in light of Whitney's passing. Life goes on, yeah yeah. But she just died a little over 24 hours ago! By celebrating like this, it's almost like it didn't happen or they want to forget that it happened, like she didn't matter. LL mentioned her when hosting (that prayer was lovely). Rihanna mentioned Whitney during the breakdown of "We Found Love" (which is so apropos given that WFL and IWDWS are practically the same song) And then Jennifer did her tribute performance. It was like this topic that is so obvious but no one was willing to talk about it. It made me really angry. I guess this really speaks about the state of mind many people have right now. They care more about their money, their parties, their limos, their booze, their weed/drugs, their jumpoff tricks/bust-it babies, and of course, business. Exactly, my thoughts. Yes, the event didn't have to be a funeral service... but I don't know... it felt very disjointed most of the times. That horrid "dance music" segment right after Jennifer Hudson? No. (And I'm a huge dance music fan, but not that segment).
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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 13, 2012 9:22:38 GMT -5
Not having gone through the thread, what happened to Chaka Khan? Just a rumor?
I didn't watch the show full through- I watched the ABC shows from 8-10 (flipping to CBS during commercials and whatnot), and then putting it on at 10. Adele was great.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Feb 13, 2012 9:25:14 GMT -5
Not having gone through the thread, what happened to Chaka Khan? Just a rumor? She pulled out at the last minute as she thought it was way too soon after Whitney's death to even deal with performing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2012 9:29:42 GMT -5
Carrie doesn't do the same thing over and over? Adele doesn't? Taylor doesn't? Most singers do the same thing over and over unless they actually change it up, in which case my examples have yet to really do. Same old same old. You pick on Gaga because her "same old" is different from most. I'm also increasingly annoyed with people taking issue with her leaving before the end. Did anyone else leave? Maybe she actually had reason to leave? Unless you've spoken with her or her people, or anyone else who left early or whatever your issue of the minute is with someone, get a life. You don't know what they're thinking or their reason is for doing something so insignificant as leaving early. Really. Some people find issue with everything no matter how minuscule and stupid. You're right a lot of artists do the "same old same old," but Gaga is someone who claims to be such an "original" artist, yet has done nothing to show it. That's why I'm "picking on her' (as you say) over the others you mentioned. I don't care why she left, but if that had turned out to be the case I would've found it to be disrespectful no matter who it was. Honestly, Gaga has come off as smug to me since she released "Born This Way," and she called it the "album of the decade" in an interview. Obviously she thinks she's better than everyone else after one successful album. Frankly, it wouldn't have surprised me at all if she HAD walked out, because she talked like BTW was the best album ever made. So she didn't walk out...that doesn't mean I can't have other reasons for disliking her. Music is a matter of personal taste, and I don't happen to like Gaga anymore, for various reasons. It's not a crime. Sorry that I was misinformed about her leaving, but people jump the gun on these things sometimes; it happens, it's really not that big of a deal. Just because I dislike Gaga doesn't mean I'm a delusional, immature hater who spreads lies about her; I guess it was my mistake to think people could be more mature than that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2012 9:32:03 GMT -5
Serious question... has Gaga ever actually claimed to be original?
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Post by Ling-Ling on Feb 13, 2012 9:32:52 GMT -5
It's a tragedy that Whitney died, but canceling the Grammys? That's a bit much. No way should an huge award show be canceled because of a person dying. And no way should the entire show be a memoriam to that person either.
They handled it respectfully and with class. Whitney is obviously an icon, but she wasn't the entire music industry and the show must go on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2012 9:39:30 GMT -5
In light of Whitney Houston's death, the significant majority of the performances were completely inappropriate. ... ???
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Post by Caviar on Feb 13, 2012 10:02:10 GMT -5
The world does not stop spinning because someone dies. The show MUST go on.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Feb 13, 2012 10:13:53 GMT -5
The world does not stop spinning because someone dies. The show MUST go on. It depends on who the person is. If it were Obama, the world would be at a standstill for 2 weeks.
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Post by Au$tin on Feb 13, 2012 10:24:53 GMT -5
The world does not stop spinning because someone dies. The show MUST go on. It depends on who the person is. If it were Obama, the world would be at a standstill for 2 weeks. If Obama died the night before the Grammys, the Grammys would still air. It's next to impossible just to up and cancel a huge event like the Grammys. If there's two shows you can always count on every year, it's the SuperBowl and the Grammys.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 13, 2012 10:36:31 GMT -5
Carrie doesn't do the same thing over and over? Adele doesn't? Taylor doesn't? Most singers do the same thing over and over unless they actually change it up, in which case my examples have yet to really do. Same old same old. You pick on Gaga because her "same old" is different from most. I'm also increasingly annoyed with people taking issue with her leaving before the end. Did anyone else leave? Maybe she actually had reason to leave? Unless you've spoken with her or her people, or anyone else who left early or whatever your issue of the minute is with someone, get a life. You don't know what they're thinking or their reason is for doing something so insignificant as leaving early. Really. Some people find issue with everything no matter how minuscule and stupid. You're right a lot of artists do the "same old same old," but Gaga is someone who claims to be such an "original" artist, yet has done nothing to show it. That's why I'm "picking on her' (as you say) over the others you mentioned. I don't care why she left, but if that had turned out to be the case I would've found it to be disrespectful no matter who it was. Honestly, Gaga has come off as smug to me since she released "Born This Way," and she called it the "album of the decade" in an interview. Obviously she thinks she's better than everyone else after one successful album. Frankly, it wouldn't have surprised me at all if she HAD walked out, because she talked like BTW was the best album ever made. So she didn't walk out...that doesn't mean I can't have other reasons for disliking her. Music is a matter of personal taste, and I don't happen to like Gaga anymore, for various reasons. It's not a crime. Sorry that I was misinformed about her leaving, but people jump the gun on these things sometimes; it happens, it's really not that big of a deal. Just because I dislike Gaga doesn't mean I'm a delusional, immature hater who spreads lies about her; I guess it was my mistake to think people could be more mature than that. People are free to dislike the music of whoever they want, obviously. It's when they try to create factual information or claim that "obviously she thinks she's better than everyone else" that I take issue with. Obvious how? It seems every award show, some people have nothing better to focus on than what Gaga is doing and how to be offended by her. Place your attention on being happy for Adele and her amazing year and the great performance Jennifer Hudson put off. Those are worth the attention, not this speculation that Gaga thinks she better than everyone and stormed off in a huff and was rude. Based on how she presents herself in regards to her opinion of Adele specifically, I'd find it hard to believe that she would leave while Adele was speaking.
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Post by chris89 on Feb 13, 2012 10:48:59 GMT -5
Lmao...Some of you Aguilera Stans really be trying it. Gaga was seen getting up AFTER Adele's speech. She showed up despite knowing like the majority of us, how the night would end. I seriously can't at the grasping of straws and bitterness that still resonates. Gaga happened. Deal! Being a Christina stan has NOTHING to do with my dislike for Gaga. I think she's attention w*hore who does the same thing over and over... the size of her ego is also nauseating. Deal. People like you make me wonder why I read this forum. Don't go on the internet and start throwing out hate about something you didn't even WITNESS yourself. Because you are dead wrong. Also, this was like the first night ever Gaga just sat around and did NOTHING to gain attention. She didn't even walk the freaking red carpet last night. Get over it. Deal.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Feb 13, 2012 11:23:37 GMT -5
It really does confuse me why people hate Gaga so much that they are literally lying to force something to hate on her for last night when all she did was sit in the audience and cheer everyone on. Also, the album of a decade comment was taken out of context. She was trying to say that she felt like the fans deserved the album of a decade from her so that is what she was trying to do. Actually, a sweet sentiment that was taken out of context for non-fans to hate on her over and over and over and over and over again for over a year. It just seems strange because there is plenty of stuff Gaga does do that you can hate on her for without making stuff up or manipulating quotes around. If you want examples I can give them even as a fan
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Feb 13, 2012 11:27:39 GMT -5
Canceling The Grammy's? No.
The Grammy Awards the past few years have been all performances with very little awards given out.
My fave was the Glenn Campbell tribute.
Rihanna, Coldplay, Nicki Minaj and Katy Perry were all awful.
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Post by Kishi KCM on Feb 13, 2012 11:30:04 GMT -5
Not one of you were there in attendance, so getting mad over "faves" makes no sense. Stop the arguing, nonsense!
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Post by Scotty on Feb 13, 2012 11:31:36 GMT -5
In light of Whitney Houston's death, the significant majority of the performances were completely inappropriate. ... ??? I agree. I have seen too many comments recently that bicker about how inappropriate the performances were because they didn't "honour Whitney's death" or "maintain a sense of grief and mourning over Whitney's death". Here are a few facts of life these people need to consider. 1) Not everyone is a fan of Whitney Houston. We pay our tribute to her contributions to the industry and move on with our lives; this woman was not in a personal relationship with more than 75 percent of the people in that hall and the tribute (which was excellent, by the way) was, I believe, just enough to pay the respect needed to her. And then they want artists to pay homage to Whitney in their speeches, which is ridiculous becuse not everyone was influenced or cared much for her. 2) Many people put a lot of hard work into this award show. This includes the individual performers as well as the show producers and crew. Don't expect them to change everything because Whitney Houston died a day before. 3) It's a diva. In your world, maybe you have your own little rituals or special tributes or allotted days of mourning. Most other people say their words and move on with life, because in the end her death is not a blow to the functioning of many of our lives. (i.e. I would be concerned if an unrelated fan went into psychological depression over this) But I feel moved by weight or force in a certain direction or into a certain position to say that Whitney was phenomenal and one of the greatest voices the industry has ever had to offer, and her classics will be remembered and engraved in the industry for years to come. But we need to face reality, because the world does not revolve around Whitney Houston and it will not stop because she does. Hundreds of children die every hour, and the world does not stop for them. Our soldiers abroad are dying every day serving for our countries, and the world is not stopping for them. Suddenly, a pop singer (although a legend) dies and suddenly we want to cancel the Grammys and make everyone pause for silence? That's a stan talking, and not a reasonable request. I don't want to come off as a bitter hag. I respect Whitney, enjoyed her music immensely in the past, and do genuinely feel for her fans and above all, those who were close to her personally. So I do need to re-iterate this, because there will probably be at least one person or more to reply to this post calling me "disrespectful" or "inhuman" or whatever synonym. --- People need to stop criticizing Lady Gaga for trivial nonsense. Tonight she was very classy, sat back, and enjoyed the show with no antics of any sort (apart from her outfit). If you have decided that you don't like her for her music or image, that's your resolve and I completely respect it as a reasonable one. But you looking for reasons to bring up your dislike sounds like a cheap way to try to piss off her fans OR hate for the sake of hating, even though that may not have been your intent. So by all means, criticize her, but not when it is completely unwarranted in the conversation. --- Adele was beautiful and slaying last night. My favourite performance. :)
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Post by vantiboy3 on Feb 13, 2012 11:38:30 GMT -5
lol. I'm loving this thread at the moment.
PS> I was expecting to read about the actual WINNERS and AMAZING performances. But than again, this is Pulse. The irrelevant "artists + their stans" always trying to take the shine.
Anywayyyy, Adele brought home the bacon y'all!! And damn @ rapper J.Cole's face when Bon Iver was announced as the Best New Artist Winner. I swear Japan could she the smurk on his face. LOL.
The performances were great, except that Minaj performance.
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Post by Push The Button on Feb 13, 2012 11:58:07 GMT -5
The Grammy's scored their highest ratings since 1984, the year Thriller dominated.
The 54th Grammy Awards, scored a giant 14.1 adults 18-49 rating and 39 million viewers, up 41% vs. a 10.0 rating and 26.7 million average viewers last season. That was the second highest viewership in Grammy history (1984), and the best adults 18-49 ratings since 1990. Note that the numbers for the Grammy Awards in the table below are only for the 8-11pm portion, while the numbers in the text above are for the entire show.
Earlier in the evening, 60 Minutes had a 2.9 adults 18-49 rating, up 93% from the season low 1.5 rating two weeks ago. Of course CBS topped the nights adults 18-49 ratings and total viewership on Sunday night
Against the Grammys, The Cleveland Show had a 1.2 adults 18-49 rating, vs. a 1.3 rating two weeks ago in its last new episode. The Simpsons drew a 2.0 adults 18-49 rating, vs. a 2.4 rating two weeks ago. Napoleon Dynamite drew a 1.7 adults 18-49 rating, vs. a 2.1 rating two weeks ago. Family Guy had a 2.5 adults 18-49 rating, vs. a 3.1 rating two weeks ago. American Dad had a 1.7 adults 18-49 rating, vs. a 2.4 rating two weeks ago.
ABC's Once Upon A Time scored a 3.0 adults 18-49 rating, vs. a 3.5 rating last two weeks ago. A Desperate Housewives drew a series low 1.8 adults 18-49 rating, vs. a 2.6 adults 18-49 rating three weeks ago against the NFC Championship Game. Playing out the string before it heads to that great cancellation bin in the sky, Pan Am had another series low. dropping a 0.7 adults 18-49 rating, vs. a 1.2 rating three weeks ago. At 7pm, America's Funniest Home Videos' 2.0 adults 18-49 rating was up a tenth vs. a 1.9 rating two weeks ago.
NBC's Dateline lead off the night with a 1.6 adults 18-49 rating, and a two hour Fear Factor finished the night with a series low 1.5 adults 18-49 rating. Compare that if you wish to the 2.3 adults 18-49 rating it scored Monday at 9pm a month ago.
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Post by Push The Button on Feb 13, 2012 11:59:12 GMT -5
Notice the big ratings for 60 Minutes, which included an interview with Adele.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Feb 13, 2012 12:13:30 GMT -5
BEST NEW ARTIST WINNERS WITHOUT TOP 40 HITS:
2012: Bon Iver 2011: Esperanza Spaulding 2001: Shelby Lynne 1975: Marvin Hamlisch 1964: The Swingle Sisters 1962: Peter Nero 1961: Bob Newhart
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Post by esoteric76 on Feb 13, 2012 12:15:30 GMT -5
So great to see The Civil Wars make the most out of their brief time on stage.
I've been following Joy Williams (the female in the Civil Wars) throughout her 3 albums on the Christian charts and she is pure fabulousness. Great seeing her get to sing in front of such a big audience.
Jennifer Hudson is sublime.
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Post by Au$tin on Feb 13, 2012 12:23:24 GMT -5
LOL! There were network shows that tried to go against the Grammys? Why not just air repeats?
Adele and Whitney raked in those ratings no doubt.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Feb 13, 2012 12:27:57 GMT -5
AOTY, SOTY, ROTY sweeps by #1 songs and #1 albums:
2012: Adele, 21 and "Rolling in the Deep" 2001: Santana, Supernatural and "Smooth" 1972: Carole King, Tapestry, "You've Got a Friend" (SOTY), and "It's Too Late" (ROTY) 1971: Simon & Garfunkel, Bridge Over Troubled Water and "Bridge Over Troubled Water"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2012 12:29:42 GMT -5
^I missed that (J. Cole's face). I hope he didn't actually think he had a snowball's chance in hell of winning, lol. He did good to get nominated.
Re - canceling the show - that obviously wasn't going to happen (though I definitely think they should have canceled the pre-Grammy party the night before). Thing is, the show was going to feel off no matter what they did. It may feel like they didn't pay enough respect to Whitney but if everyone had been super somber for the entire night, people would have complained it was too gloomy...and while it's definitely easy to say Nicki's performance was ill-fitting now, had her performance been chopped due to the Grammys deeming it too 'inappropriate' and/or substituting more time for a Whitney tribute instead her fans would have peen pissed as hell and cried foul. The same goes for anyone whose performance would have been shafted; performing at the Grammys is a big deal and you never know if you'll get that opportunity again. Adele fans would have been ticked that her time to finally receive proper recognition for her success was being shunted, and that while there will always be an opportunity for someone to honor Whitney a person only gets one chance to have the kind of moment Adele is having. And canceling the whole thing altogether would have just been a mess. What would CBS have aired instead? How would they have rescheduled that? Kelly Clarkson is on tour, for example, so Jason Aldean would possibly have been screwed out of his performance slot b/c Kelly could or would not rearrange her tour to accommodate appearing on another date. Some suggested pre-taping but that would not have even made sense. Since the entire point of canceling to the ones suggesting it was to show respect to Whitney, then it's counter-intuitive to actually go on with the show, but just not air it.
The other thing to keep in mind is that if they'd turned it into an impromptu Whitney tribute it kind of would have been a slap in the face to other artists who'd passed away in the past year. They had weeks to get something together for Etta - arguably as influential as Whitney on a plethora of artists in the industry today - but only came up with one abbreviated duet. They didn't do anything for any of the other artists who'd passed away other than their standard tribute clip. And yet Whitney dies the day before and all of a sudden her death is more "worthy" of monopolizing the whole show? That would not have sat well with me, either.
The only thing I would have done differently is at the very end, when they had Paul sing once again. I would have taken that performance out completely and used that as the opportunity for a Whitney tribute. The show would have ended on a somber note, but it would have felt more in place than sticking JHud in the middle and then following it up with that dance segment that few people seemed to like. Plus Paul had already sung once anyway so I don't think anyone would have minded his second performance being replaced.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2012 12:32:43 GMT -5
LOL! There were network shows that tried to go against the Grammys? Why not just air repeats? Adele and Whitney raked in those ratings no doubt. Yeah it was annoying. I had forgotten there was a new Desperate Housewives on last night. But luckily I have digital cable and jjust watched it on one of the west coast stations (half hour after the Grammys ended) instead xD
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