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Post by Rumors on May 5, 2012 15:42:54 GMT -5
Well, 3DD took a tumble pretty quickly, too. But yes, I am surprised as well. Some tour stops.
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Daughtry, SafetySuit, Mike Sanchez Greensboro Coliseum Greensboro, N.C. April 7, 2012 $183,983 3,945 / 4,995 1 / 0 $52.50, $32.50 AEG Live
Daughtry, SafetySuit, Mike Sanchez Sovereign Center Reading, Pa. March 21, 2012 $132,478 2,759 / 3,552 1 / 0 $52.50, $32.50 AEG Live
Daughtry, SafetySuit, Mike Sanchez Massey Hall Toronto, Ontario March 24, 2012 $128,393 2,424 / 2,628 1 / 0 $54.51, $44.51 AEG Live
Daughtry, SafetySuit, Mike Sanchez Shea's Performing Arts Center Buffalo, N.Y. March 20, 2012 $124,705 2,809 / 2,933 1 / 0 $50.50, $30.50 AEG Live
Daughtry, SafetySuit, Mike Sanchez Palace Theatre Cleveland, Ohio March 25, 2012 $120,683 2,606 / 2,606 1 / 1 $50.50, $30.50 AEG Live
Daughtry, SafetySuit, Mike Sanchez Louisville Palace Louisville, Ky. March 31, 2012 $117,721 2,602 / 2,602 1 / 1 $50.50, $30.50 AEG Live
119 Daughtry, SafetySuit, Mike Sanchez Ryman Auditorium Nashville, Tenn. March 30, 2012 $107,010 2,300 / 2,300 1 / 1 $52.50, $32.50 AEG Live
Daughtry, SafetySuit, Mike Sanchez Benedum Center Pittsburgh, Pa. April 4, 2012 $106,820 2,168 / 2,640 1 / 0 $52.50, $32.50 AEG Live
Daughtry, SafetySuit, Mike Sanchez Music Hall Cincinnati, Ohio April 3, 2012 $93,865 2,029 / 3,138 1 / 0 $50.50, $30.50 AEG Live
Daughtry, SafetySuit, Mike Sanchez Veterans Memorial Auditorium Columbus, Ohio April 2, 2012 $93,800 1,928 / 3,234 1 / 0 $52.50, $32.50 AEG Live
Daughtry, SafetySuit, Mike Sanchez Cobb Energy Performing Arts Centre Atlanta, Ga. March 27, 2012 $87,300 1,724 / 2,546 1 / 0 $52.50, $32.50 AEG Live
Daughtry, SafetySuit, Mike Sanchez Robinson Center Music Hall Little Rock, Ark. March 28, 2012 $69,339 1,418 / 2,393 1 / 0 $50.50, $30.50 AEG Live
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Post by Rumors on May 5, 2012 15:51:26 GMT -5
Daughtry, SafetySuit, Mike Sanchez Mizner Park Amphitheater Boca Raton, Fla. April 14, 2012 $149,730 3,194 / 3,240 1 / 0 $52.50, $29.50 AEG Live
Daughtry, SafetySuit, Mike Sanchez Ruth Eckerd Hall Clearwater, Fla. April 11, 2012 $104,135 2,110 / 2,110 1 / 1 $54.50, $34.50 AEG Live/in-house
Daughtry, SafetySuit, Mike Sanchez Ovens Auditorium Charlotte, N.C. April 9, 2012 $86,643 1,773 / 2,285 1 / 0 $52.50, $32.50 AEG Live
Daughtry, SafetySuit, Mike Sanchez Times-Union Center for the Performing Arts, Moran Theatre Jacksonville, Fla. April 15, 2012 $85,092 1,783 / 2,781 1 / 0 $50.30, $30.50 AEG Live
Daughtry, SafetySuit, Mike Sanchez Hard Rock Live Orlando, Fla. April 12, 2012 $76,603 1,630 / 2,904 1 / 0 $75, $39.50 AEG Live
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Post by penpal99 on May 10, 2012 8:32:04 GMT -5
Someone has to do it about Outta My Head - This 'awesome' song is finally dead on the HAC chart?! Am I being too quick about it?
I hate to say it - but I am really glad that it is so.... I am going to pretend this single never existed!
Please release SOSG or LMM soon????
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2012 11:34:52 GMT -5
What happened to OMH? Did it really flop THAT badly? :o
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Post by Kurt on May 10, 2012 11:39:39 GMT -5
What happened to OMH? Did it really flop THAT badly? :o It's actually still crawling up HAC, but I'd say it's pretty much done, unfortunately. 34 33 DAUGHTRY Outta My Head 19/RCA 2011 492 486 6
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Post by penpal99 on May 10, 2012 14:26:33 GMT -5
^ Yep- and I fear that OMH is going to be that critical flop which would haunt them for years to come:( I think it would be very tough to recover from it.....
OMH is now 'famous'' as it - Break The (Daughtry) Spell on the Hot AC chart and more.
I would say this is an epic failure since it is happening right in their HAC homeland. I am truly sad about it - for it could be prevented right from the start!
Someone's in the band and/or label is either too egoistic/foolish/delusional/complacent to pick this goddam song!!!!
And I also blame those clueless and ignorant fans who were egging the band to choose it as a single on the account that it is a non ballad with a fast beat. They have forgotten that the relative success of a signature Daughtry single is all about an affective musical hook which touches the heart like September, What About Now, Life After You, Home, Feel Like Tonight, Its Not Over which continue to be popular after all these years.
The only past single which I do not like is actually Over You due to its lack of a smooth natural hook - and so it is not surprising that its radio spin is the lowest since it does not connect as well with the listeners and radio DJs. And OMH is not even half as good as Over You!!! Renegade is another example. To a lesser degree, CBTY is less successful due to the not so well crafted Daughtry sound.
They should have protected their HAC homeland vigilantly with songs like SOSG (which is going to be a guaranteed HOT AC big hit) or LMM(which is the hookier version of OMH)!!!
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on May 11, 2012 6:47:01 GMT -5
Over You is one of my favorite Daughtry songs period and probably my favorite single release from them. Have you ever been to a Daughtry show and experienced that song live? It's pretty amazing and the crowd has gone absolutely wild every single time I've seen it.
I don't agree with your reasoning at all. OMH is a perfectly suitable song for radio, just not radio at the moment. Daughtry is going to have to find a way to be innovative and match current trends if they want another radio smash. Break The Spell is an amazing album full of songs that would have smashed up the charts 3 - 5 years ago. I still love it all, but the mood of radio has shifted.
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Post by penpal99 on May 11, 2012 14:09:37 GMT -5
^ I agreed that Over You is great when performed live with participation from the floor:) But...
I am talking about the studio version which is played on radio - it does (IMO) get kinda draggy and dull somehow ....
And I really do not wholly buy the reason/excuse that their brand of music is no longer popular with the radio stations! If it is a good song which connects (well written ones which are radio friendly) - sales and spins would eventually irregardless where it is coming from! OMH is a good song for the album - but not as a single.
Now I have kinda come to terms with it - OMH could serve as reminder to all that the band/label are willing to risk radio failure to change the usual game plan for them:p On hindsight- I gotta admit that they are really brave to ahead with it ...And/Or perhaps they are doing it for many of their fans who have been begging them for a single which is not another ballad...
If that is the case - it's now back to business :) I am very sure they are not unaware of the huge Hot AC radio potentiality of Start of Something Good. If this could be the final single- please come up with a sleek (and not a cheap looking) music video!!!!
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Post by daydrmblvr on May 14, 2012 16:44:58 GMT -5
It doesn't really matter whether *you* buy it. Just looking at the trend of the songs that have a larger bullet at both Hot AC and Pop tells the story, whether you want to accept it or not. Not a lot of rock bands there. Rock music is considered to be old people's music, therefore it doesn't attract the advertising dollars on radio, therefore it's been pretty much been cut out completely.
Now, if any of these songs had been an overwhelming internet/Itunes sensation that sold a lot of copies, then radio would be forced to play it. But that hasn't been the case at all, and unfortunately reinforces the perception of the band as not fitting in with the current scene.
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Post by penpal99 on May 15, 2012 0:51:38 GMT -5
It doesn't really matter whether *you* buy it. Just looking at the trend of the songs that have a larger bullet at both Hot AC and Pop tells the story, whether you want to accept it or not. Not a lot of rock bands there. Rock music is considered to be old people's music, therefore it doesn't attract the advertising dollars on radio, therefore it's been pretty much been cut out completely. Now, if any of these songs had been an overwhelming internet/Itunes sensation that sold a lot of copies, then radio would be forced to play it. But that hasn't been the case at all, and unfortunately reinforces the perception of the band as not fitting in with the current scene. I think it is my fault that I did not explain clearly and fully - which is why you think that I did not 'get' it about the trend against rock music in general on the HAC chartland. I am in full agreedment that the HAC radio stations are going the pop way... Why is why I am so against Outta My Head as a single - it is too rockish for the current HAC landscape. And it does not help that it is neither catchy nor hooky, and actually sound pretty generic and has a very high burnt out rate. And worst of all- it lacks that special Daughtry sound of great and timeless melody... For your info- the DJs from the HAC stations are not that STUPID to completely cut off those who prefer non pop acts! It is just a balancing act and playing the 'right' song from the the rock guys which still appeal to both groups of listeners. I would say if Losing My Mind is the single, it could reach the upper end of top 20 on the HAC chart...
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Post by guilk on May 17, 2012 17:34:33 GMT -5
I agree with everyone. I like the song but the radio mix is awful. Hopefully "Start of Something Good" becomes a single. That could be a huge hit. Who knows what going on at RCA?
Anyways OMH looks like it getting alot more spins. So hopefully that is good sign.
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Post by penpal99 on May 23, 2012 10:16:06 GMT -5
^Frankly I do not care if Outta My Head is getting more spins now- it is absolutely DOING NOTHING for the album sales!!! The album is in grave danger of dropping out of BB top 200 :(
Shaking my head sadly.....
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Post by penpal99 on May 24, 2012 14:46:19 GMT -5
I understand that some posters have been mentioning that Chris and the rest of the band have been sounding really good recently - and I wholeheartedly agreed with it! Chris, in particular, has been amazing and mesmerizing in terms of live vocal - he's got a great hold of it now:)
And I really really want more to go to their concerts to experience that - which mean they would need to release a new single that people can actually relate to make news and draw in the crowds!!! They can't just rely on die hard fans alone. Please move on from Outta My Head now please???!!!it is so obvious now it's a terrible single which can only hold them back!
Please release Start Of Something Good any time now! And try to set aside some budget for a decent music video please - it would be money well spent....
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Post by Rumors on May 28, 2012 19:04:27 GMT -5
There's a couple "not so great" numbers at the bottom of this list.
Daughtry, SafetySuit, Mike Sanchez Genesee Theatre Waukegan, Ill. May 11, 2012 $117,838 2,347 / 2,347 1 / 1 $52.50, $42.50 AEG Live
Daughtry, SafetySuit, Mike Sanchez Peabody Opera House St. Louis, Mo. May 16, 2012 $106,825 2,222 / 2,923 1 / 0 $52.50, $32.50 AEG Live
Daughtry, SafetySuit, Mike Sanchez Orpheum Theatre Omaha, Neb. May 15, 2012 $84,197 1,773 / 2,444 1 / 0 $50.50, $30.50 AEG Live
Daughtry, SafetySuit, Mike Sanchez The Brick Minneapolis, Minn. May 13, 2012 $61,898 1,179 / 1,252 1 / 0 $52.50 AEG Live
Daughtry, SafetySuit, Mike Sanchez Egyptian Room at Old National Centre Indianapolis, Ind. May 10, 2012 $59,846 1,209 / 1,830 1 / 0 $49.50 AEG Live
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Post by penpal99 on May 30, 2012 10:51:43 GMT -5
Damned it!!! Break The Spell is out of the BB 200 album chart :( That's what a bad single would lead to ....
With an album which has fallen off the chart just after 6 months, poor performing singles in terms of sales and radio spins and relatively mediocre concert turn-out - I am begining to believe that Daughtry will be dropped by the record label somehow:(
I am truly sad about how thing has turned up so far...,
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Post by guilk on May 30, 2012 12:36:54 GMT -5
I so sad that this not doing will. Hopefully they get dropped and picked by record label who actually cares enough to release the good songs to radio and crappy ones on it. I so tired of RCA. But I doubt they will be dropped since there album sales are gold and it is hard come by this days. Hopefully RCA puts out one more single to help them or just move on to album 4 with a different producer and try to change it a little bit. I hate seeing them do so bad.
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Post by penpal99 on Jun 6, 2012 10:29:28 GMT -5
Break The Spell album is out of BB 200 2 weeks in a row :( 'Thanks' to Outta My Head for 'nailing' it into the coffin- how I 'hate' this song!!!!! And it has singlehandedly given them their worst showing ever on the VH1 Top 20 countdown show. I wish I could crush it into bits and pieces!!!
And dun be fooled by its 'climb' up the HAC chart! It really signify absolutely nothing at all!
Please JUNK it ASAP!!!!! And release SOSG NOW!
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Post by Rumors on Jun 6, 2012 21:17:20 GMT -5
I'm not so sure its a case of Outta My Head being a terrible song as much as its a case of this music not being "in" right now. IMO, I didn't hear any hits on the album (in today's music market).
Chris is obviously a fan of the more traditional rock sound and quite frankly I think it's the style that suits his vocal delivery the best. He also hasn't really demostrated to me that he can write a true pop song even if that was what he wanted to do. Not much bands like 3DD, Daughtry, and I think now even Nickleback can do. Their sound was popular once and it's simply not now except to a core group of people who will always enjoy this type of music. There's nothing wrong with that. It's just simply not what the masses want at the moment and its not what radio is going to embrace. The downloads on the singles tell the story.
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Post by Musiq on Jun 7, 2012 3:08:42 GMT -5
Whats going on with this era?
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Post by daydrmblvr on Jun 11, 2012 20:58:25 GMT -5
I agree. To me, it wouldn't mattered what single was released second. IMO SOSG wouldn't have performed much better. It is what it is at this point. *shrug*
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Post by austin on Jun 12, 2012 10:01:29 GMT -5
I love Out of My Head so much that I'm glad they released it, but I do think Start of Something Good would have performed better, to be honest.
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Post by Rurry on Jun 12, 2012 12:24:19 GMT -5
They're going to have to freshen up their sound a bit with the next album if they want to stay relevant. Like it's been said, this kind of music just isn't what people are interested in right now, even on Hot AC.
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Jun 12, 2012 12:57:57 GMT -5
I'm not even sure if they're gonna have a "next album" after the severe under-performance of all of the singles so far.
Did this band (along with other similar rock bands) ever get blocked from CC stations?
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Jun 13, 2012 9:01:23 GMT -5
They're going to have to freshen up their sound a bit with the next album if they want to stay relevant. Like it's been said, this kind of music just isn't what people are interested in right now, even on Hot AC. This. And I hate that because I absolutely love Break the Spell. It's full of quality hit music...if only that kind of music was hitting right now. Unfortunately, if they want to keep making records they are going to have to find a way to be more mainstream.
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Post by Musiq on Jun 14, 2012 0:48:59 GMT -5
Did they atleast go gold?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2012 9:38:48 GMT -5
Unfortunately, if they want to keep making records they are going to have to find a way to be more mainstream. I don't see it happening. The type of music they (and 3 Doors down and Nickelback) do has fallen completely out of vogue, and for bands like them to come back doing the kind of music that's popular at CHR/Pop right now would just give people more ammunition against bands like them. Nickelback even tried to come back with a single that had a more rhythmic beat, and it bombed. These bands are stuck between a rock and a hard place right now, and I really don't see a way for them to get out of it. It's the kind of issue most of the 80s hair metal bands dealt with once grunge took over at rock radio, and pop listeners completely moved away from those bands.
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