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Post by Black Jesus on Aug 12, 2011 6:04:42 GMT -5
From Coldplay's Twitter: coldplay: The next single from the Mylo Xyloto album (out Oct 24) is called Paradise. It's out on Sept 12. t.co/BEDfjEB
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Post by pen on Aug 12, 2011 12:08:14 GMT -5
WOOT!
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Post by Ron57 on Aug 12, 2011 13:33:08 GMT -5
Interesting. People were wrong btw, I guess Every Tear is going to be on the album, and was the real first single. Also, interesting that they said it would be two words that both start with an M. Must have changed their minds.
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Post by singingsparrow on Aug 13, 2011 4:30:09 GMT -5
Interesting. People were wrong btw, I guess Every Tear is going to be on the album, and was the real first single. Also, interesting that they said it would be two words that both start with an M. Must have changed their minds. It wasn't the lead single. It was a promotional single to their iTunes-exclusive EP (and a rather successful one at that). "Charlie Brown" would have made a supremely effective lead single, but given they haven't previewed this yet, who knows? It may well be even catchier and ambitious than that immediate fan favorite is. Namaste, lisping HIBISCUS
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Post by pen on Aug 13, 2011 11:39:27 GMT -5
Interesting. People were wrong btw, I guess Every Tear is going to be on the album, and was the real first single. Also, interesting that they said it would be two words that both start with an M. Must have changed their minds. It wasn't the lead single. It was a promotional single to their iTunes-exclusive EP (and a rather successful one at that). "Charlie Brown" would have made a supremely effective lead single, but given they haven't previewed this yet, who knows? It may well be even catchier and ambitious than that immediate fan favorite is. Namaste, lisping HIBISCUS Pretty sure if Every Tear wasn't the lead single from this album they wouldn't be describing Paradise as the "next single from Mylo Xyloto".
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Post by pen on Aug 13, 2011 11:44:08 GMT -5
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Aug 13, 2011 12:01:52 GMT -5
Hoping this one is also good.
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Post by Phanarchist on Sept 12, 2011 1:16:52 GMT -5
I like it.
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Post by singingsparrow on Sept 12, 2011 2:13:04 GMT -5
This one doesn't sound strong enough to anchor an album release. They should have released "Charlie Brown" as the lead single if their intention was to score another multi-format hit, or else "Hurts Like Heaven" if their intention was to highlight another stylistic direction and maintain their Alternative cred. It drags a bit too much in my opinion, although the ambient production is pleasant. If anything, "Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall" sounds more like a type of song fitting for the title of "Paradise". Namaste, lisping HIBISCUS
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Post by vantiboy3 on Sept 12, 2011 6:40:06 GMT -5
i love it! Like totally! Without any doubt! Absolutely!
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Post by Black Jesus on Sept 12, 2011 8:55:36 GMT -5
I like this!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2011 9:22:26 GMT -5
The lyrics are not good, but the sonic qualities save this for me otherwise. I like it more than "Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall".
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Post by American Idiot on Sept 12, 2011 9:38:57 GMT -5
I like it about equally as "Every Teardrop is a Waterfall," and it's not a bad song by no means. However, I agree with LispingHibiscus that it is not that strong and certainly does drag on the "Para... para... para...paradise" much too long. I still haven't heard the new album, but believe that there must be some better choices.
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Post by HereIsGone on Sept 12, 2011 10:02:29 GMT -5
Yeah, I pretty much agree with most who've said it's not really strong single-material. Having not heard the other songs, I can't make comparisons but that being said, I like the music in this one though.
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Post by Gravity. on Sept 12, 2011 11:38:11 GMT -5
I like this one less than "Every Teardrop is a Waterfall," but I still like this a good deal. The instrumentation in this one is very nice. I'm really excited for their new album now. So far, the first two singles have kind of given me "You Are a Tourist" vibes. Anyone else?
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Post by vantiboy3 on Sept 12, 2011 12:15:33 GMT -5
This is gonna smash!!
Para--para--paradise......oh ho hohoho hohohoo!!
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Post by doak on Sept 12, 2011 15:04:51 GMT -5
I really like the direction that the album/era is going in.
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Post by lockebox on Sept 13, 2011 19:16:57 GMT -5
Goes for adds September 27th.
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Post by singingsparrow on Sept 14, 2011 2:04:26 GMT -5
I really like the direction that the album/era is going in. It really seems like it will be synth-heavy, and decidedly in a progressive rock vein to my ears. Perhaps stylistically in the vein of Styx with an updated veneer. I take it those who are complaining about these past two single releases "not sounding like Coldplay" are actually saying that Coldplay have no place in progressive rock! Namaste, lisping HIBISCUS
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Post by The Party Captain on Sept 14, 2011 8:49:06 GMT -5
This sounds like Coldplay trying to be OneRepublic IMO.
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Post by singingsparrow on Sept 14, 2011 12:25:40 GMT -5
This sounds like Coldplay trying to be OneRepublic IMO. Really? At least Coldplay regularly try to operate within a rock band framework. OneRepublic barely possesses any scintilla, any remnant, of rock at its crux. I certainly don't hear it in "Good Life". If anything, OneRepublic are often trying to ape Coldplay, but just come across as much more lightweight. Don't get me wrong, I find some of OneRepublic's songs listenable, but I know they are pop-oriented and don't have anything to do with rock music. Namaste, lisping HIBISCUS
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Post by jvandyck87 on Sept 14, 2011 14:53:15 GMT -5
@ Noah, I definitely don't hear the prog elements in this and "Every Teardrop" anymore than I heard it on earlier albums. I felt that their first four albums each had songs that showcased more of a prog influence than anything I've heard off these two singles. "Spies" and "Everything's Not Lost" off Parachutes were grander in scope and harmonically more complex. "Politik", "God Put A Smile On Your Face", and "Amsterdam" off A Rush Of Blood To The Head feel more progressive to me for the same reasons. And then "Square One" and "White Shadows" off X&Y felt like "space-prog". And "Yes" off Viva La Vida as two-part composition and with the harmonic framework and instrumentation of the first half (especially that awesome arabesque strings lick) to me make it proggier than these two songs.
As far as Coldplay singles go, their hits have never been particularly progressive, but I don't hear anything other than instrumentation in these two singles that would qualify them. "Every Teardrop" is straight-up major key with a four-on-the-floor bass drum beat. I do find some of the chord voicings interesting and the relationship with the snare drum and the kick at the end interesting, but nothing more progressive than the syncopation in "Viva La Vida", or the very tasteful and interesting key change in the bridge of "Clocks", or the hemiola-laden 12/8 shuffle in "Shiver".
And "Paradise" to me has an epicness to it, but nothing proggy per se. The chord progression is vi-IV-I-V, which is THE progression of OneRepublic and just about every other pop song of the last decade (meaning I think The Realest Ninja has a point). The use of repeated syllables and Oh-oh-oh vocal riffs is a signature of modern pop and especially songs penned by Ryan Tedder, and based on the hits off the latest record, Ryan loves his synth strings. Coldplay's production may be slightly edgier, especially with their use of overdriven guitar towards the end of the song, but I agree that this is closer to OneRepublic than any progressive rock band I can think of. Considering Coldplay used to be considered Radiohead-lite, I think if anything, they've moved in a less progressive direction over the course of their discography because now a comparison to OneRepublic or at least U2 seems much less absurd than a comparison to Radiohead.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Sept 15, 2011 7:48:28 GMT -5
Top 50 on Alternative:
0 46 COLDPLAY Paradise 133 0 133 0.846
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Post by singingsparrow on Sept 15, 2011 13:01:53 GMT -5
@ Noah, I definitely don't hear the prog elements in this and "Every Teardrop" anymore than I heard it on earlier albums. I felt that their first four albums each had songs that showcased more of a prog influence than anything I've heard off these two singles. "Spies" and "Everything's Not Lost" off Parachutes were grander in scope and harmonically more complex. "Politik", "God Put A Smile On Your Face", and "Amsterdam" off A Rush Of Blood To The Head feel more progressive to me for the same reasons. And then "Square One" and "White Shadows" off X&Y felt like "space-prog". And "Yes" off Viva La Vida as two-part composition and with the harmonic framework and instrumentation of the first half (especially that awesome arabesque strings lick) to me make it proggier than these two songs. As far as Coldplay singles go, their hits have never been particularly progressive, but I don't hear anything other than instrumentation in these two singles that would qualify them. "Every Teardrop" is straight-up major key with a four-on-the-floor bass drum beat. I do find some of the chord voicings interesting and the relationship with the snare drum and the kick at the end interesting, but nothing more progressive than the syncopation in "Viva La Vida", or the very tasteful and interesting key change in the bridge of "Clocks", or the hemiola-laden 12/8 shuffle in "Shiver". And "Paradise" to me has an epicness to it, but nothing proggy per se. The chord progression is vi-IV-I-V, which is THE progression of OneRepublic and just about every other pop song of the last decade (meaning I think The Realest Ninja has a point). The use of repeated syllables and Oh-oh-oh vocal riffs is a signature of modern pop and especially songs penned by Ryan Tedder, and based on the hits off the latest record, Ryan loves his synth strings. Coldplay's production may be slightly edgier, especially with their use of overdriven guitar towards the end of the song, but I agree that this is closer to OneRepublic than any progressive rock band I can think of. Considering Coldplay used to be considered Radiohead-lite, I think if anything, they've moved in a less progressive direction over the course of their discography because now a comparison to OneRepublic or at least U2 seems much less absurd than a comparison to Radiohead. "Parachutes" was by no means a progressive record though. It may have retained progressive influences, but it owed itself more to the influences of Travis than anything. I consider that their most earthy album to date, while "A Rush Of Blood To The Head" was largely an ambitious expansion of that sound. "X&Y" signaled not so much a departure from that minimalism as a surrender to bigger, grander production. "White Shadows" definitely had a progressive leaning to it, and I'd say "Talk" fits the description as well. They were compared relentlessly to U2 primarily with that album (by the way, the "oh-oh-oh" vocal effect is not a Tedder invention, but something U2 has long been known for and is often identified as a "U2-ism" even though I'm sure bands uttered that prior to their existence) and also during "Viva La Vida or Death & All His Friends" although comparisons to Arcade Fire and Muse were also made in that they dabbled more in what is often labelled "art-rock" (whatever that means). I'd say "Paradise" fits the description of a progressive sound well enough (not "Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall", though), and I also feel it is noted in "Major Minus" and the outtake "Moving To Mars". I haven't heard a studio version of "Princess Of China" yet, but I can imagine that also meeting the criteria. Namaste, lisping HIBISCUS
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Post by jvandyck87 on Sept 15, 2011 16:48:25 GMT -5
But you haven't defined your criteria. And while you've made your comparisons, you failed to delve into any of the musical elements like I did. I'm also a music major whose career is in a PROGRESSIVE ROCK/METAL band. So while I think you're an authority above me on a lot of subjects in music, and have a very strong command of the English language and communicate your thoughts very well, I'm gonna take myself as the authority on this one, and really ask you to consider what makes these songs more progressive than a song like "Shiver" or "Amsterdam". Because I really think as compositions unto themselves, they are far more sophisticated, and the only element that might make the new record lean proggier to you is the production, and I think all the complex compositional elements trump a bigger sound as far as what makes something progressive. The songs themselves are the bubblegum poppiest they've ever been.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Sept 16, 2011 12:05:19 GMT -5
Top 40 on Alternative:
0 36 COLDPLAY Paradise 190 0 190 1.138
Heard this yesterday. Sounds a little different, probably will be a grower.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Sept 18, 2011 11:16:46 GMT -5
Top 30 on Alternative:
0 28 COLDPLAY Paradise 308 0 308 1.798
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Sept 22, 2011 15:08:16 GMT -5
Top 20 on Alternative:
46 20 COLDPLAY Paradise 459 133 326 2.329
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Post by Sounds from the Other Side on Sept 29, 2011 15:10:48 GMT -5
This is cute I guess, I don't really care for the song though.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Oct 6, 2011 13:51:14 GMT -5
Definitely a grower. Really starting to enjoy this one now.
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