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Post by David on Nov 29, 2011 18:52:33 GMT -5
Why don't you make one yourself? LMAO. Homegirl can't even quote properly. I'd hate to see the mess he'd come up with in Paint.
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Post by slw84 on Nov 29, 2011 18:56:35 GMT -5
I think Britney needed more catchy pop tracks with this album. I think a perfect mix of songs like "Hold It Against Me" and "Till the World Ends" mixed with experimental tracks like Bloodshy and the classic pop tunes like "Womanizer" would be great. We need less filler like Seal it With a Kiss, which has a sound that I don't think really fits Brit. She def. needs to mix the new sound with the old sound together, maybe that's the disconnect this era? Except Seal it with a kiss is flawless...ooh ooh weee ooh. I actually don't think the problem is the album...she tried something a little different but Britney needs to stop taking baby steps and take a leap. So yes, she needs a new sound but moreso a progession. TBH, I'm a stan but this album could have came out at any point in her career and would have been ok. To me, I'm not gonna judge her first efforts. Her second album was creating a formula and Britney getting into her skin. 'Britney' was an album that could only come out during the crossroads of her career. 'In the zone' was an album that could only come out during her college years/experimental phase. 'Blackout' was an album that could only come out during her 'bad years/rough patch' Circus, like FF, could come out at any point and wouldn't seem to define an era. I give Circus somewhat of a pass because it was her comeback effort and seemed to be a collage of all her albums, intentionally. At this point, she really needs to bring her ITZf & blackout creativity with present life growth/maturity and progress...Based on the reactions to FF, this really seems like the last time she can just put out this type of record before her stans start really getting turned off. Progessioney, Creativeney, Introspectiveney...FTW THIS! She needs to seriously take control of her career. Yep. I think Britney is partially at fault for the conservatorship being in place. I think it's become a sort of comfort zone for her having her life managed down to the smallest detail, like her security blanket in a way. It's not that I think they don't want her to so much as she just.. doesn't want to accept that responsibility again. Anyway, whatever the case is, it's probably in her best interest mentally to have it lifted at this point. Good points. Why don't you make one yourself? LMAO. Homegirl can't even quote properly. I'd hate to see the mess he'd come up with in Paint. Sugarplum you are so late...should have posted that yesterday to at least sound relevant Muah. I keep them gorls hungry and thirsty...it's a gift I don't own it. You are right by the way... but hey I'm getting there ;) You don't see me doing double,triple,quadruple posts in a row. Give me some credit So yeah, I would gladly accept someone doing it for me...much appreciated and thank you
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Nov 29, 2011 18:57:00 GMT -5
Does she have custody of her kids right now? Like, 50/50 with Kevin? I do think she needs it lifted if we are ever going to get classic Britney back. Musically this cd is not that off though. Overall really good cd, but for a few reasons didn't entirely connect. Not that it was a flop of course.
I still wish Criminal would have done better so we could get a guaranteed fifth single!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2011 19:04:54 GMT -5
The reason this CD didn't connect is largely the fault of Max and Luke, in my opinion anyway.
For me, their material is insanely instant but it just never has that lasting appeal. I can't really think of a song handled by either of them, from any artist, that's really "timeless." This CD as a whole having been under their supervision suffered from the same effect, and while I initially loved it, I just have no desire to fuck with it anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2011 19:12:15 GMT -5
The reason this CD didn't connect is largely the fault of Max and Luke, in my opinion anyway. For me, their material is insanely instant but it just never has that lasting appeal. I can't really think of a song handled by either of them, from any artist, that's really "timeless." This CD as a whole having been under their supervision suffered from the same effect, and while I initially loved it, I just have no desire to f**k with it anymore. What about "Since U Been Gone" by the Vocal Chameleon??! That is a timeless classic!!!1 But no seriously, I agree. I'd love Britney to do something a bit less throwaway on her next album.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2011 19:18:07 GMT -5
idk her. I'd love Britney to do something a bit less throwaway on her next album. Bingo. I think since it's release, I've spun Blackout and possibly even In The Zone as whole albums more than I have Femme Fatale. That's.. kind of a bummer considering what this album was "supposed to be."
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Post by josh on Nov 29, 2011 19:21:08 GMT -5
Vocal Chameleon = Kelly Clarkson.
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Post by sideout on Nov 29, 2011 19:23:25 GMT -5
I don't want another Britney album until she is ready to commit. Without promotion she will never be top dog. I really hope the next album will be her Velvet Rope/Like A Prayer. Janet was 31 and Madonna was 30 when they released those albums. It's time for Britney to step up her game.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2011 19:24:23 GMT -5
Vocal Chameleon = Kelly Clarkson. still lost.
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Post by josh on Nov 29, 2011 19:27:54 GMT -5
Vocal Chameleon = Kelly Clarkson. still lost. I think someone is making the point that Max and Luke's songs are catchy right away, but not memorable. Someone pointed out Kelly's Since U Been Gone, a song by Max and Luke, is very memorable.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2011 19:29:05 GMT -5
Yes, but who is Kelly Clarkson? ???
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Post by David on Nov 29, 2011 19:30:57 GMT -5
Vocal Chameleon = Kelly Clarkson. Wrong
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Post by josh on Nov 29, 2011 19:31:35 GMT -5
She's the winner of American Idol Season 1.
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Post by slamina on Nov 29, 2011 19:40:25 GMT -5
at the posts on this page.
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Post by josh on Nov 29, 2011 19:43:30 GMT -5
Hmm... lol I feel dumb. I thought I read one the Stronger board KC = VC? lol oops
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Post by David on Nov 29, 2011 19:44:59 GMT -5
Hmm... lol I feel dumb. I thought I read one the Stronger board KC = VC? lol oops :beynope: Its ok, I'm here to guide you.
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Post by josh on Nov 29, 2011 19:45:09 GMT -5
Wrong. "Just Dance" was the beginning of that sound, so Lady Gaga did it first (actually Madonna started it with the album COADF, but she didn't have the influence of Lady Gaga a few years later). "Bad Romance" is not stereotypical pop whatsoever. It is a pop classic (and I strongly believe it will still be considered as such 30 years from now). As far as Gaga being interchangable with other current pop divas... gurl please. She hasn't released one song this era that is typical pop. Who else would sing "BTW", "Judas", "TEOG", or "You and I"? Nobody. Those are Gaga songs ONLY. Oh, and so I won't be in trouble for being off topic in Kelly's thread, WDKY is sooooooo good. I pray the video isn't cheesy. I knew someone would end up taking that comment out of context. Never meant it like that. Of course Lady Gaga has pushed boundaries. She's probably the most notable performer who has done that in the past 20 years. But saying that she's not typical pop is stretching it a bit. Especially since, as you and Haus of Max said, pop music emulates what she's done. Therefore she becomes LESS typical. It's not a criticism, nor her fault. Nor a bad thing. It just is. Saying Lady Gaga isn't typical pop worked in 2009. Now, everyone that wants a smash does what Lady Gaga does. If you want someone against the mold, you look for the Adeles, the Kelly Clarksons, and yes, the Pinks. The argument that Kelly does what Pink does simply doesn't work anymore, even though people will say it. Pigeonholing Kelly into just pop rock is what has made her career harder than anyone elses in the past decade. While her hits sound like that, theres a reason Kelly is called the vocal chameleon. It's because she isn't JUST one style of music. And no one said Kelly pushes boundaries. I would argue she found her niche in pop during he Breakaway era and worked it for all it's worth. When it runs dry, she'll stop. She took a risk with My December and got slammed, but I sense that's what she wants from her career. So, again, sorry for the Lady Gaga misunderstanding. It honestly has nothing to do with this thread or my argument, so I'm sorry it came up. To sum everything up, I think WDKY is the perfect example of Kelly working her niche to craft a perfect pop rock single. I would be hard moved by weight or force in a certain direction or into a certain position to find another singer that could nail this song as well as Kelly could, both vocally and stylistically.
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Post by ClevelandRox on Nov 29, 2011 20:01:18 GMT -5
at the posts on this page. I can't either lol especially at Max or Luke having nothing timeless.
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Post by franklin on Nov 29, 2011 20:02:40 GMT -5
Wow. A lot of you are misinformed. So Sorry For You :'( Kelly Clarkson. The one and only Vocal Chameleon. Thread Closed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2011 20:18:47 GMT -5
Back to your regularly scheduled s**t storm! I can't either lol especially at Max or Luke having nothing timeless.When I was stating that, I was speaking more of their recent material. '...Baby One More Time,' 'Since U Been Gone,' and 'Oop! ...I Did It Again' are three solid examples, but since their recent prominence they've turned out nothing but disposable pop fluff, but (pay close attention to this next point, it's huge) that is my opinion. That said, I still honestly can't think of many of their songs having lasting appeal, or are we going to try and make an argument for 'Girlfriend' and 'Teenage Dream'?
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Post by josh on Nov 29, 2011 21:49:39 GMT -5
So wait, was I right or wrong about Kelly Clarkson being the Vocal Chameleon?!?! ???
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Post by AP on Nov 29, 2011 21:56:19 GMT -5
Why is this thread still open....?
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Post by ƒreakshow on Nov 29, 2011 22:00:10 GMT -5
So wait, was I right or wrong about Kelly Clarkson being the Vocal Chameleon?!?! ??? You can rest easy, you were right. :)
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Post by Au$tin on Nov 29, 2011 22:32:29 GMT -5
The thread quickly went the way of the single. Lock, please. The song and conversation are completely dead.
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Post by josh on Nov 29, 2011 22:35:58 GMT -5
I wish it wasn't dead though :'(
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Post by dzjx on Nov 30, 2011 6:23:11 GMT -5
But if this gets locked and she has no fifth single, where will i go to discuss Britney :'(
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Post by David on Nov 30, 2011 13:36:41 GMT -5
^Her album thread, maybe?
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 1, 2011 9:40:49 GMT -5
Drops off Hot 100 after six weeks on.
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