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Post by ALEX GONE WILD on Feb 10, 2012 21:55:00 GMT -5
I still would've went with Hummingbird Heartbeat :/ I think everyone knows this by now Even if this gets low radio play like a lot of you say, digital sales should help get it a higher peak, being new music and all. I see it most likely getting a really good peak on pop and the Hot 100. I can never say it enough. It's heartbreaking. :'( :'(
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Post by Cory | Alan on Feb 10, 2012 22:07:27 GMT -5
This song is gonna SMASH - the chorus is so addictive...does sound similar to TTWE tho
and yes, justr because a soing doesn't make an album has very little to do with quality - labels have contracts with producers and they guarantee a certain number for each producer - Luke had obviously met his limit on TD and now they can release more.
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Post by slayZ on Feb 10, 2012 23:47:46 GMT -5
I.am.obsessed.with.this.song.
I CAN'T STOP. this is such a smash. i love it so much.
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Post by allow that on Feb 10, 2012 23:50:58 GMT -5
I need a break from her.
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Post by circadian on Feb 11, 2012 0:29:01 GMT -5
sticks and stOnes break my soul and bOnes damn it Katy, just go into the studio and make some new music already. throw your sticks and your stones throw your bombs and your blows but you're not gonna break my soul
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Post by BRhap786 on Feb 11, 2012 0:37:07 GMT -5
I just listened to the demo, I think - And I LOVE it! Once I hear this in HQ and after the grammys....it's going to smash.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Feb 11, 2012 0:41:39 GMT -5
There is no pressure for her to hit #1 anymore. This is going I soar into the top 10 quite easily tho.
10/11 top 10's. :'(
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Post by Cerbius on Feb 11, 2012 1:25:11 GMT -5
Just listened to the demo for the first time and I really like it! Sounds like a big hit to me. I definitely hear the resemblance to Till The World Ends.
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Post by Jay on Feb 11, 2012 1:32:35 GMT -5
I think the demo alone s**ts on "Till the World Ends". I could see it being a bigger hit too.
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Post by xxfetchmonsterxx on Feb 11, 2012 1:33:28 GMT -5
This kind of is a pointless release ... I wish she wouldve just waited and released another full album. But it's another top 10/ possible #1 for her j guess
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Feb 11, 2012 1:45:04 GMT -5
Why is it pointless? I've said it a million times and I'll say it again, SHE ALREADY HAS THE RECORD! All of this is just icing on the cake. If Gaga or Britney or whoever else had top 10 material left in their vault and they DIDN'T release it, wouldn't you be mad? Regardless of stupid Billboard policy, they are making the right decision, because this song is a smash. Score another top 10 under her belt, and this will be her 8th straight. In reality, there is nothing to complain about. I can't wait for the meltdowns. Should be exciting! mark this down as another exciting smash in her never-ending catalog. It really does sound like the bridge between her work from TD to her future work. In the end, it's just another relatable Katy song. You can easily relate to it. It's not weird or pretentious, it's exactly what she should be sounding like in Feb 2012. I can't wait for it to unfold. :'(
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Feb 11, 2012 2:54:52 GMT -5
I think most people who are saying it is pointless are operating under a slightly different model for music releases. Basically, at some point you wrap up an era, take a break so people want more and so people don't get tired of the sound you are releasing, and then unleash a new era. However, it is 2012 right now and radio will play literally non-stop singles even if they are somewhat similar sounding for years upon years in a row from the same artist. There is no reason to take a break at all anymore if radio and consumers will literally lap up everything you release non-stop. I fully expect at least two singles pounded out for this re-release-maybe even three. Then, in the Fall 2-3 more singles from a new album. It is good business and a financially sound model.
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Post by BadRomance on Feb 11, 2012 2:58:36 GMT -5
I thought she said she would take a break in 2012?
I'm not into this just yet..and that comes from a fan, she needs to take a break right after this.
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Post by ALEX GONE WILD on Feb 11, 2012 3:00:25 GMT -5
I guess this is her "I'm not letting divorce get me down" song lol
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Feb 11, 2012 3:09:59 GMT -5
I think most people who are saying it is pointless are operating under a slightly different model for music releases. Basically, at some point you wrap up an era, take a break so people want more and so people don't get tired of the sound you are releasing, and then unleash a new era. However, it is 2012 right now and radio will play literally non-stop singles even if they are somewhat similar sounding for years upon years in a row from the same artist. There is no reason to take a break at all anymore if radio and consumers will literally lap up everything you release non-stop. I fully expect at least two singles pounded out for this re-release-maybe even three. Then, in the Fall 2-3 more singles from a new album. It is good business and a financially sound model. you are precisely right. in the end, if there was no material, then yes, she should take a break. But what fan...st.an...superfan...wouldn't want their fav to release material which was indeed smash-ready? This is a good song. It may not hit #1, but that isn't the goal anymore, at least from a superfan's point of view. Now it's all about keeping the momentum going. I think with all the hoopla around releasing Hummingbird Heartbeat and Peacock, this is fresh enough to bring new life into her career. It's a very much similar situation to We R Who We R. That song was better, imo, as it took Ke$ha to an elevated level, bringing her above her previous material (not Tik Tok, but the others). Part of Me is kinda the bridge of her next journey. It's that one song that reminds you that..."yea, Katy Perry has good songs." It might not be up to the level that her first 5 smashes off TD were, but it is certainly better than anything left off TD to be released. BB policy or not, they are making the right decision. i just wonder what that 3rd song is? I expect the 2nd song to be Dressin' Up, but who knows? There is still hopes of that Rihanna duet that surfaced not too long ago. That was an undeniable smash if i ever heard one. Surely they can't let that one go, regardless of how many Rihanna songs are currently on the radio. bad cover or not, exciting times ahead. :)
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Post by ALEX GONE WILD on Feb 11, 2012 3:15:25 GMT -5
I think most people who are saying it is pointless are operating under a slightly different model for music releases. Basically, at some point you wrap up an era, take a break so people want more and so people don't get tired of the sound you are releasing, and then unleash a new era. However, it is 2012 right now and radio will play literally non-stop singles even if they are somewhat similar sounding for years upon years in a row from the same artist. There is no reason to take a break at all anymore if radio and consumers will literally lap up everything you release non-stop. I fully expect at least two singles pounded out for this re-release-maybe even three. Then, in the Fall 2-3 more singles from a new album. It is good business and a financially sound model. you are precisely right. in the end, if there was no material, then yes, she should take a break. But what fan...st.an...superfan...wouldn't want their fav to release material which was indeed smash-ready. This is a good song. It may not hit #1, but that isn't the goal anymore, at least from a superfan's point of view. Now it's all about keeping the momentum going. I think with all the hoopla around releasing Hummingbird Heartbeat and Peacock, this is fresh enough to bring new life into her career. It's a very much similar situation to We R Who We R. That song was better, imo, as it took Ke$ha to an elevated level, bringing her above her previous material (not Tik Tok, but the others). Part of Me is kinda the bridge of her next journey. It's that one song that reminds you that..."yea, Katy Perry has good songs." It might not be up to the level that her first 5 smashes off TD were, but it is certainly better than anything left off TD to be released. BB policy or not, they are making the right decision. i just wonder what that 3rd song is? I expect the 2nd song to be Dressin' Up, but who knows? There is still hopes of that Rihanna duet that surfaced not too long ago. That was an undeniable smash if i ever heard one. Surely they can't let that one go, regardless of how many Rihanna songs are currently on the radio. bad cover or not, exciting times ahead. :) Wasn't there hinting of a Hummingbird Heartbeat remix with Tricky? Remember they were in the studio together, and she said that he gave her "that hummingbird heartbeat" or something like that? I don't know if anyone remembers that tweet or not.
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Post by dbhmr on Feb 11, 2012 3:16:42 GMT -5
I think most people who are saying it is pointless are operating under a slightly different model for music releases. Basically, at some point you wrap up an era, take a break so people want more and so people don't get tired of the sound you are releasing, and then unleash a new era. However, it is 2012 right now and radio will play literally non-stop singles even if they are somewhat similar sounding for years upon years in a row from the same artist. There is no reason to take a break at all anymore if radio and consumers will literally lap up everything you release non-stop. I fully expect at least two singles pounded out for this re-release-maybe even three. Then, in the Fall 2-3 more singles from a new album. It is good business and a financially sound model. I keep hearing this argument, and it makes sense, but how much is there to back it up, really, beyond Rihanna? And she looks a tour away from running herself into the ground, which is a poor long-term business plan; besides, her second single didn't pan out so well and she had the momentum of arguably the biggest song of her career (and before everyone announces that it was terrible, I think it's a fun, breezy, good song). Even Gaga took a bit of a break. Like I said, I agree with the theory, but I think it has to be executed successfully in practice before I'm convinced it's more than just a theory. Katy may help with that; but even if her re-release singles are successful, we need to look back on this 2-3 years from now and see where she's at to get a real idea of the short and long-term career benefits by milking her for everything she's got.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Feb 11, 2012 3:17:39 GMT -5
you are precisely right. in the end, if there was no material, then yes, she should take a break. But what fan...st.an...superfan...wouldn't want their fav to release material which was indeed smash-ready. This is a good song. It may not hit #1, but that isn't the goal anymore, at least from a superfan's point of view. Now it's all about keeping the momentum going. I think with all the hoopla around releasing Hummingbird Heartbeat and Peacock, this is fresh enough to bring new life into her career. It's a very much similar situation to We R Who We R. That song was better, imo, as it took Ke$ha to an elevated level, bringing her above her previous material (not Tik Tok, but the others). Part of Me is kinda the bridge of her next journey. It's that one song that reminds you that..."yea, Katy Perry has good songs." It might not be up to the level that her first 5 smashes off TD were, but it is certainly better than anything left off TD to be released. BB policy or not, they are making the right decision. i just wonder what that 3rd song is? I expect the 2nd song to be Dressin' Up, but who knows? There is still hopes of that Rihanna duet that surfaced not too long ago. That was an undeniable smash if i ever heard one. Surely they can't let that one go, regardless of how many Rihanna songs are currently on the radio. bad cover or not, exciting times ahead. :) Wasn't there hinting of a Hummingbird Heartbeat remix with Tricky? Remember they were in the studio together, and she said that he gave her "that hummingbird heartbeat" or something like that? I don't know if anyone remembers that tweet or not. i remember that. I even had an avatar based on that, lol. But let's be real, POM is way more radio-friendly than HH is.
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Post by ALEX GONE WILD on Feb 11, 2012 3:20:23 GMT -5
Wasn't there hinting of a Hummingbird Heartbeat remix with Tricky? Remember they were in the studio together, and she said that he gave her "that hummingbird heartbeat" or something like that? I don't know if anyone remembers that tweet or not. i remember that. I even had an avatar based on that, lol. But let's be real, POM is way more radio-friendly than HH is. Do not get me started on this.. Hummingbird Heartbeat is f l a w l e s s. I was rooting for HH to be the 4th single instead of E.T. I'm going to go cry in a corner now while it plays.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Feb 11, 2012 4:14:11 GMT -5
I think most people who are saying it is pointless are operating under a slightly different model for music releases. Basically, at some point you wrap up an era, take a break so people want more and so people don't get tired of the sound you are releasing, and then unleash a new era. However, it is 2012 right now and radio will play literally non-stop singles even if they are somewhat similar sounding for years upon years in a row from the same artist. There is no reason to take a break at all anymore if radio and consumers will literally lap up everything you release non-stop. I fully expect at least two singles pounded out for this re-release-maybe even three. Then, in the Fall 2-3 more singles from a new album. It is good business and a financially sound model. I keep hearing this argument, and it makes sense, but how much is there to back it up, really, beyond Rihanna? And she looks a tour away from running herself into the ground, which is a poor long-term business plan; besides, her second single didn't pan out so well and she had the momentum of arguably the biggest song of her career (and before everyone announces that it was terrible, I think it's a fun, breezy, good song). Even Gaga took a bit of a break. Like I said, I agree with the theory, but I think it has to be executed successfully in practice before I'm convinced it's more than just a theory. Katy may help with that; but even if her re-release singles are successful, we need to look back on this 2-3 years from now and see where she's at to get a real idea of the short and long-term career benefits by milking her for everything she's got. ug, damn forum and it's updates. >:( yes, i agree. however... everyone has got to realize she has to utilize the last of Dr. Luke's singles, because she won't be able to use them in the future. If they are smash-worthy, then why not? BB policy or not, it makes sense. If it was any other artist, their fans would be craving for that so-called material to be released. I would think that if Kelly had a smash from a previous album's leftovers, you would want it released. It just adds to the catalog, no? i feel there is already hype and momentum, which proves that Katy's shtick is not stale yet. this is all about keeping her momentum going, while they do other things in the background. If the material is there, then there is no reason not to release it. however, if this flops bigtime, then that is a tell-tale sign that things need to change. If it succeeds, then the nay-sayers will get a big scrambled goose egg on their face. let's not forget that Rihanna has gone 6 years straight and no one bats an eye. This is just a fraction of that time realistically.
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Post by NeRD on Feb 11, 2012 12:07:52 GMT -5
I keep hearing this argument, and it makes sense, but how much is there to back it up, really, beyond Rihanna? And she looks a tour away from running herself into the ground, which is a poor long-term business plan; besides, her second single didn't pan out so well and she had the momentum of arguably the biggest song of her career (and before everyone announces that it was terrible, I think it's a fun, breezy, good song). Even Gaga took a bit of a break. Like I said, I agree with the theory, but I think it has to be executed successfully in practice before I'm convinced it's more than just a theory. Katy may help with that; but even if her re-release singles are successful, we need to look back on this 2-3 years from now and see where she's at to get a real idea of the short and long-term career benefits by milking her for everything she's got. ug, damn forum and it's updates. >:( yes, i agree. however... everyone has got to realize she has to utilize the last of Dr. Luke's singles, because she won't be able to use them in the future. If they are smash-worthy, then why not? BB policy or not, it makes sense. If it was any other artist, their fans would be craving for that so-called material to be released. I would think that if Kelly had a smash from a previous album's leftovers, you would want it released. It just adds to the catalog, no? i feel there is already hype and momentum, which proves that Katy's shtick is not stale yet. this is all about keeping her momentum going, while they do other things in the background. If the material is there, then there is no reason not to release it. however, if this flops bigtime, then that is a tell-tale sign that things need to change. If it succeeds, then the nay-sayers will get a big scrambled goose egg on their face. let's not forget that Rihanna has gone 6 years straight and no one bats an eye. This is just a fraction of that time realistically. That because Rihanna changes things up, and things dont become redundant because they are all produced by the same producer. Its like she keeps recycling the same formula over and over.
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Post by Felicia on Feb 11, 2012 13:32:51 GMT -5
I'm so ready for another Katy single.
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Post by kmbgs on Feb 11, 2012 13:38:10 GMT -5
Katy is probably the driving force behind this release - I wouldn;t be surprised if she's doing that whole "Throw yourself into your career when your personal life isn't going to well' thing that a lot of us tend to do. I say good for her, if she wants to keep a high profile, let her do it. Unfortunately, I don't think this is up to par with the other TD singles, but that doesn't mean it's crap.
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Post by Mack on Feb 11, 2012 13:39:38 GMT -5
People keep screaming that all of Katy's singles this era sound alike, but I don't agree with that at all. 'ET' sounds nothing like 'Last Friday Night', 'California Gurls' sounds nothing like 'Firework', and so on. We've seen what happens nowadays when an artist takes a break; Katy might as well pump out the hits while she can.
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Post by Rurry on Feb 11, 2012 13:42:06 GMT -5
I think most people who are saying it is pointless are operating under a slightly different model for music releases. Basically, at some point you wrap up an era, take a break so people want more and so people don't get tired of the sound you are releasing, and then unleash a new era. However, it is 2012 right now and radio will play literally non-stop singles even if they are somewhat similar sounding for years upon years in a row from the same artist. There is no reason to take a break at all anymore if radio and consumers will literally lap up everything you release non-stop. I fully expect at least two singles pounded out for this re-release-maybe even three. Then, in the Fall 2-3 more singles from a new album. It is good business and a financially sound model. I keep hearing this argument, and it makes sense, but how much is there to back it up, really, beyond Rihanna? And she looks a tour away from running herself into the ground, which is a poor long-term business plan; besides, her second single didn't pan out so well and she had the momentum of arguably the biggest song of her career (and before everyone announces that it was terrible, I think it's a fun, breezy, good song). Even Gaga took a bit of a break. Like I said, I agree with the theory, but I think it has to be executed successfully in practice before I'm convinced it's more than just a theory. Katy may help with that; but even if her re-release singles are successful, we need to look back on this 2-3 years from now and see where she's at to get a real idea of the short and long-term career benefits by milking her for everything she's got. I agree. It might not hurt her now, but this can't be beneficial in the long run. It almost seems like her label is trying to cash in on her while they can because they don't expect her to last long. Also like someone said, if she does continue to release same-y songs she'll inevitably lose people's interest if they're being pumped out constantly.
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Post by Pikachu. on Feb 11, 2012 13:52:15 GMT -5
This is nice.
The verses do sound like Till The World Ends.
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Post by Becks on Feb 11, 2012 16:30:32 GMT -5
I like it better than her last two singles.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Feb 11, 2012 16:48:37 GMT -5
WOW!!! I love the additions and harmonizing during the bridge! Not here for the Britney cameos tho.
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Post by SoMuchToSay on Feb 11, 2012 17:03:56 GMT -5
DAMN! I love this! The backup vocals totally enhance the song a million times from the demo. The "bad media karma" was really annoying! I'm actually impressed with how much they've managed to improve it. It sound a lot more processed now, giving it a beat that is hard to not start rocking to! I hope she performs this! If only there were room for both this and Stronger on top...
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Post by circadian on Feb 11, 2012 17:07:03 GMT -5
Hot damn, the polished version sounds even more amazing! Smash in the making, no doubt about it
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