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Post by jsizzle on Apr 25, 2012 20:25:44 GMT -5
I agree that it's Peacock or bust. I'm a huge Katy fan, but Dressin' Up (the rumored next single) is not strong enough, especially coming after seven STRONG singles.
Although Peacock is somewhat polarizing, it's a strong enough track that I could see it doing well, especially if remixed with a hot guest feature, like Nicki Minaj. It already did well on the dance charts, so we know it has potential. It's also summertime; so other contenders (Not Like the Movies, Wide Awake) are less likely to smash.
Just my two cents.
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Post by dbhmr on Apr 25, 2012 20:27:50 GMT -5
They need to just wrap it up. None of the new songs are very good--they were lucky to get this one to go so high. This whole rerelease and everything since has been the first (and, really, only) misstep of the era.
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Post by SoMuchToSay on Apr 25, 2012 20:28:52 GMT -5
Not to re-hash the old debate oever the Michael Jackson debate, but if she released Peacock (ft. some big rapper, i.e. Lil Wayne), it could get the job done. I know of a lot of people who have been dying for that to be a single since the beginning. It would either be a huge success or huge bomb.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Apr 25, 2012 21:49:16 GMT -5
My Part Of Me vinyl in action!
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 25, 2012 21:56:13 GMT -5
They need to just wrap it up. None of the new songs are very good--they were lucky to get this one to go so high. This whole rerelease and everything since has been the first (and, really, only) misstep of the era. well the original intention of the re-release was to break the record, and she DID. They just changed the rules at the last second. I don't think POM is a misstep. Everything after this, however, is. I'll agree with that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2012 0:40:43 GMT -5
No rules were changed; just the specifications of what they considered significant.
Billboard reported that MJ & Katy Perry are tied for most #1 singles from one album over one release of said album.
However they don't find it significant to report that Katy Perry has the most #1s from one album over all releases of said album.
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Post by Lozzy on Apr 26, 2012 6:33:54 GMT -5
I still really want "Dressin' Up" to be released as the eighth single, and then "Wide Awake" as the ninth and final. "Hummingbird Heartbeat" is good, but I don't see why they should release it over one of the new songs. I stand firm that "Peacock" would be an awful choice for radio.
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Post by jsizzle on Apr 26, 2012 8:53:14 GMT -5
Lyrical content aside, "Peacock" is MUCH MORE radio friendly than "Dressin' Up" is. As another poster pointed out on a previous page, "Dressin' Up" is a fun album track, but it's not strong enough to be a single. Honestly, even "Hummingbird Heartbeat" is stronger than "Dressin' Up." If I were Capitol, I would either end the era now on a high note, or if they have to, go with a hot remix of Peacock (and a hot video).
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Post by junico11 on Apr 27, 2012 3:42:41 GMT -5
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 27, 2012 4:30:33 GMT -5
good performance! She's dancing more, which i like. Faulters in the vocals, of course, but at least she's not standing in front of a mic. Good for her! She used to be so afraid of dancing. But now it's becoming a routine, which is GREAT!
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Apr 27, 2012 4:52:31 GMT -5
I loved her performance on AI. It was great to see her dance choreography. :)
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 27, 2012 5:24:42 GMT -5
Lyrical content aside, "Peacock" is MUCH MORE radio friendly than "Dressin' Up" is. As another poster pointed out on a previous page, "Dressin' Up" is a fun album track, but it's not strong enough to be a single. Honestly, even "Hummingbird Heartbeat" is stronger than "Dressin' Up." If I were Capitol, I would either end the era now on a high note, or if they have to, go with a hot remix of Peacock (and a hot video). i don't think Peacock is as strong a single as Wide Awake tho. Dressin' Up, yea. That song, while weird for Katy, and a good beat, just doesn't hit hard enough. The "I'm dressin' up for you" bit isn't quite melodically there. Even the autotune doesn't work. I'll admit that. But i do like the structure of the song. I say Wide Awake or nothing at this point. If they do go for an original, i hope it's Hummingbird Heartbeat, but i'm sick of these conversations about it. It's WAAAAAAAY past the due date. Enough of it already. Wide Awake or end the era please. Let's move on.
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Post by Lozzy on Apr 27, 2012 5:27:40 GMT -5
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"Wild Ones" is 189 spins behind and gained 51 today. "Part Of Me" may manage another week at #3.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 27, 2012 5:36:57 GMT -5
No rules were changed; just the specifications of what they considered significant. Billboard reported that MJ & Katy Perry are tied for most #1 singles from one album over one release of said album. However they don't find it significant to report that Katy Perry has the most #1s from one album over all releases of said album. sorry, but "just the specifications of what they considered significant" = changing the rules at the last second. Had it been a non-issue, like Mariah, Usher, or Justin Timberlake, nothing would've been said. Since it's an issue, they speak up and change their viewpoint. We all know that Katy beat the record. The fact they bundle both the original album and the re-release points to that conclusion. Doesn't that mean 1 album? Yes it does. If not, seperate them. Nit pick all you want. Katy DID break it. New rules and regulations aside, you know she did it.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 27, 2012 5:40:41 GMT -5
3 3 KATY PERRY Part Of Me 11920 11822 98 78.296 – 99 Spins – 153 Bullet + 0.256 Audience "Wild Ones" is 189 spins behind and gained 51 today. "Part Of Me" may manage another week at #3. doesn't matter at this point. #3 for a song that most people hate (on Pulse) is outstanding. Still hit #1 on the Hot 100. It's shown longevity, and that says a lot. In the end, it's not a misstep at all. Quite the contrary.
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Post by Lozzy on Apr 27, 2012 5:47:41 GMT -5
3 3 KATY PERRY Part Of Me 11920 11822 98 78.296 – 99 Spins – 153 Bullet + 0.256 Audience "Wild Ones" is 189 spins behind and gained 51 today. "Part Of Me" may manage another week at #3. doesn't matter at this point. #3 for a song that most people hate (on Pulse) is outstanding. It's shown longevity, and that says a lot. In the end, it's not a misstep at all. Quite the contrary. Of course it's not a misstep, but it will be a misstep if they don't follow it up with "Dressin' Up". ;) I disagree with the whole #3 being outstanding for a song that most hate on Pulse, though. "Like A G6" made #3 and nobody thought that was really outstanding, but didn't most everybody except me hate that?
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 27, 2012 5:52:29 GMT -5
doesn't matter at this point. #3 for a song that most people hate (on Pulse) is outstanding. It's shown longevity, and that says a lot. In the end, it's not a misstep at all. Quite the contrary. Of course it's not a misstep, but it will be a misstep if they don't follow it up with "Dressin' Up". ;) I disagree with the whole #3 being outstanding for a song that most hate on Pulse, though. "Like A G6" made #3 and nobody thought that was really outstanding, but didn't most everybody except me hate that? #3 during a We Are Young era says a lot. There is no way POM can compete with such an anthem. Like a G6 clearly is not a good song, as was shown in the year-end charts. It didn't do very well, as it basically plummeted once it peaked. POM has shown longevity, so it will place admirably amongst the year's best. It may even beat Stronger. Well, likely not, but POM probably will rank in the top 20. no way for Dressin' Up. It's weird for Katy, and potentially could do well, but also could flop really bad. She hasn't had a flop since Thinking of You. I'd rather her stay away from it. Wide Awake or nothing.
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Post by josh on Apr 27, 2012 8:16:04 GMT -5
How can a song show longevity before it has even peaked (or just barely peaked)? ??? I like Like a G6
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Post by Lozzy on Apr 27, 2012 8:20:26 GMT -5
Of course it's not a misstep, but it will be a misstep if they don't follow it up with "Dressin' Up". ;) I disagree with the whole #3 being outstanding for a song that most hate on Pulse, though. "Like A G6" made #3 and nobody thought that was really outstanding, but didn't most everybody except me hate that? #3 during a We Are Young era says a lot. There is no way POM can compete with such an anthem. Like a G6 clearly is not a good song, as was shown in the year-end charts. It didn't do very well, as it basically plummeted once it peaked. POM has shown longevity, so it will place admirably amongst the year's best. It may even beat Stronger. Well, likely not, but POM probably will rank in the top 20. no way for Dressin' Up. It's weird for Katy, and potentially could do well, but also could flop really bad. She hasn't had a flop since Thinking of You. I'd rather her stay away from it. Wide Awake or nothing. I don't really get the point of that first argument. "Part Of Me" didn't even come remotely close to number one. I think it's her lowest spin peak from all seven Teenage Dream singles. I don't believe that there can only be one 'anthem' at a time, if that's what you mean. How about "Party Rock Anthem" and "Last Friday Night"? I personally think "Like A G6" is a great song. Year-end chart placings have nothing to do with quality. I don't see how it basically plummeted from its peak either. It spent more weeks in the Top 40 with recurrents than "Hold It Against Me", "The Lazy Song" and "The Edge of Glory" (other #3 hits). I think it's a bit early to say that "Part Of Me" has shown longevity. It peaked within two and a half months of release. The only thing we have to argue towards it having shown longevity is that it momentarily hit a brick wall around #6 but managed on to #3, but for all we know it could plummet harder than "The One That Got Away". I don't think it will, but it's too early to talk about longevity. I don't see any way at all that it could outdo "Stronger" in the long run, and I doubt it will be in the Top 20 of the year. 'Weird for Katy' is not a reason to pass over "Dressin' Up". I don't see what's so 'weird' about it, anyway. It's totally radio-friendly, to me. I agree that it could flop, but I don't see that happening. Unless the promotion is absolutely horrid or something like that, I can't see it missing Top 10, and I still think it could be a huge #1 hit. While not the best reason to send out a hypothetically bad choice, I also think it would look very bad if they could only manage one hit from the re-release of such a massive album. I really think they should try, and "Dressin' Up" is the best choice.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2012 8:34:33 GMT -5
Dressin' Up & Hummingbird Heartbeat would both probably perform the same digitally. Radio would eat up Hummingbird Heartbeat more I feel. They should still go with Dressin' Up as it has a better chance of longevity.
I like Like A G6 and agree with Slizzard's points.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 27, 2012 13:04:42 GMT -5
i need to not post while drunk at 4am.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2012 13:10:26 GMT -5
Or ever.
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Post by EIGHT on Apr 27, 2012 13:12:02 GMT -5
My local station is testing "Wide Awake"
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Post by dbhmr on Apr 27, 2012 13:13:22 GMT -5
i need to not post while drunk at 4am. I'm pretty sure you say that after every slew of ridiculous posts you make.
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Post by Legenderry on Apr 27, 2012 17:25:50 GMT -5
I say it's time to finally lay this baby to bed. I don't think either of the other 2 tracks will do as well as POM and releasing now just wouldn't be wirth it. Give KP a much needed break, allow her to reflect on a MONUMENTAL and HISTORIC era, and come back in time for the holiday season with a new project! I agree. The remaining single options (Peacock, HH, DU and WA) may be too risky, they could all flop because of different reasons. I think it's time to call it quits for this era, the poster who said that the lack of new announcements regarding the next single is a sign of hesitation, is right in my opinion.
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Post by Living Legend on Apr 27, 2012 17:28:49 GMT -5
She's performing at the Much Music awards in June and I wouldn't be surprised if she also did the Teen Choice Awards in July. I think we are definitely getting another single in a matter of weeks.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 27, 2012 21:18:27 GMT -5
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Post by Lozzy on Apr 28, 2012 7:53:56 GMT -5
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It's over.
#1 for 7 weeks from 06/20/10 – 13,219 spins on 07/11/10 – "California Gurls" (featuring Snoop Dogg) #1 for 4 weeks from 09/19/10 – 12,872 spins on 10/03/10 – "Teenage Dream" #1 for 4 weeks from 12/26/10 – 13,710 spins on 01/09/11 – "Firework" #1 for 6 weeks from 04/17/11 – 14,743 spins on 05/08/11 – "E.T." (featuring Kanye West) #1 for 5 weeks from 07/31/11 – 14,869 spins on 08/07/11 – "Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.)" #1 for 1 weeks from 01/29/12 – 13,387 spins on 01/22/12 – "The One That Got Away" #3 for 2 weeks from 04/15/12 – 11,935 spins on 04/22/12 – "Part Of Me"
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Post by Legenderry on Apr 28, 2012 7:56:52 GMT -5
It was a great run. It's really time for a break now. E.T. and LFN almost reached 15,000 spins.
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Post by icefire9 on Apr 28, 2012 12:37:26 GMT -5
As much as I'd like to see either Hummingbird Heartbeat or Wide Awake as a single, Katy has nothing left to gain from this era. Its time for her to work on the next album and come out swinging later this year.
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