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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 2, 2015 14:43:44 GMT -5
How is she not talented? She's not the best vocalist or dancer but obviously there had to be something about her to get noticed enough to get a record contract. While I strongly dislike how major labels often work, I still don't believe they would ever risk losing money over someone who didn't have *something*, some ability, some talent, to do something vaguely musically relevant. Even if her only talent is writing catchy pop hooks, that's a talent.
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Post by Mic Technique on Feb 2, 2015 14:54:06 GMT -5
Devil Marlena Nylund Agreed. Last night was proof positive of Katy Perry's showmanship but question of talent is something that is still disproportionately held over female performers.
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Post by nightshade on Feb 2, 2015 15:09:58 GMT -5
Whether you pre record a vocal or not, there's not enough reverb,delay,pitch shift,tune,melodyne,or vocal align to make you sound good if what you sing in the studio sounds a hot mess. Katy's vocal was spot on and she did a great job. I challenge any engineer or vocal producer to come in here and tell me otherwise as what I've stated about the VOX(let's get technical) is true. I think what you're saying very much applies to the Britney Spears situation on Britney Jean. the vocals on that album were a fucking hot mess and it seems nothing could have really saved them aside from Britney (still) actually having a good singing voice. Katy did a really good job during the Halftime. It was my second favorite SB performance that I've witnessed on live television. The first would be Bruno.
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Post by SoMuchToSay on Feb 2, 2015 15:19:20 GMT -5
I never in a million years would've guessed her performance would be so highly praised! She absolutely killed it! I didn't see one negative comment on my fb or twitter feeds. It'll definitely go down as one of the best ones in the last 15 years. I like how she stuck to the hits! The only thing I would've changed is one less Missy song and throw in ET in its place. I think ending with Firework was perfect and left everyone in a perfect state at the end!
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Post by Legenderry on Feb 2, 2015 15:25:50 GMT -5
How does discussion about lip-synching or not at the Superbowl keep flaring up every single year? Like that stuff is established, the artists all use pre-recorded vocals or just lip-synch to the studio versions.
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Post by surfy on Feb 2, 2015 15:38:20 GMT -5
Fine overly talented. On a talent scale, she's at a 5-6 depending on the song/range. (Live vocals of course)
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Post by Active Aggressive on Feb 2, 2015 16:04:03 GMT -5
As if I ever said I haven't supported her recorded efforts or something LOL. I'm just saying what I expect to see from a live performer who is getting all of this exuberant praise. As long as she makes albums with recordings I can enjoy, I don't hate her. Did I love her SB performance, otehr than the sets and special effects, no. Do I think she is a good pop artist? Absolutely. If anything my going in on her was to counteract the blind standom I have seen here since that show.
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Post by cjay on Feb 2, 2015 16:29:37 GMT -5
Katy's halftime show was cheesy and positive just like her. It's exactly what I expected from her. It was good, but not great. I actually think I like it was slightly better than Beyoncé's show.
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Post by Mic Technique on Feb 2, 2015 17:28:24 GMT -5
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Post by Active Aggressive on Feb 2, 2015 18:21:28 GMT -5
LOL. That just made me laugh out loud. I remember when that happened and I was like alright, that's a decent little dance move. I bet her dancers had a lot of fun up there.
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Post by icefire9 on Feb 2, 2015 18:54:43 GMT -5
Albums: #5, 72 - Teenage Dream: The Complete Confection #8 - Prism
#12 - Prism (Deluxe) #16 - One of the Boys #17, 119 - Teenage Dream
#130 - MTV Unplugged: Katy Perry
Singles: #20, 186 - Roar #30, 166 - Firework #34, 343 - Dark Horse
#77, 722 - I Kissed a Girl
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#445 - Waking Up in Vegas #496, 730, 956 - E.T. #508 - The One That Got Away #870 - Thinking of You
#1246 - Walking on Air
Even Thinking of You is getting some love!
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Post by Mic Technique on Feb 2, 2015 19:04:14 GMT -5
LOL. That just made me laugh out loud. I remember when that happened and I was like alright, that's a decent little dance move. I bet her dancers had a lot of fun up there. The "#moment" I'm referring to is the football stadium audience singing back the lyrics to "California Gurls." That is next level career validation.
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Post by tamed09 on Feb 2, 2015 19:11:19 GMT -5
LOL. That just made me laugh out loud. I remember when that happened and I was like alright, that's a decent little dance move. I bet her dancers had a lot of fun up there. The "#moment" I'm referring to is the football stadium audience singing back the lyrics to "California Gurls." That is next level career validation. OK! Check!
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Post by Wavey✨️ on Feb 2, 2015 19:34:55 GMT -5
She can get the shits from Pulse, but she got that GP love. Doesn't matter if her voice isn't up to par, a bitch be trying though. :)
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Post by Active Aggressive on Feb 2, 2015 20:15:01 GMT -5
All of this Katy Perry love made me dust off my favorite song of hers: Unconditionally. I still mourn the loss.
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Post by icefire9 on Feb 2, 2015 21:58:30 GMT -5
With 118.5 million viewers, Katy Perry's halftime show is the most viewed halftime show in history.
Of course, this is also the most viewed Superbowl, so its somewhat to be expected. Still, I'm very happy for her!
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Feb 2, 2015 22:28:35 GMT -5
Yea this completely erases her past underperformances of TIHWD and Birthday, and sets herself up for even bigger splash with her next lead single. Like it will have more hype going into it than going from TD to Roar. She really ended the PRISM era with a gigantic splash. Just imagine if she gets a Grammy this week, lol.
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Post by Spidey on Feb 2, 2015 22:32:38 GMT -5
Yea this completely erases her past underperformances of TIHWD and Birthday, and sets herself up for even bigger splash with her next lead single. Like it will have more hype going into it than going from TD to Roar. She really ended the PRISM era with a gigantic splash. Just imagine if she gets a Grammy this week, lol. "Dark Horse" deserves some Grammy love.
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Post by Dalliance on Feb 3, 2015 22:23:43 GMT -5
I think I might, in general, like the songs she sung at the SuperBowl but the performance wasn't for me. Almost every stage show she has ever given has been too Disney World for me, and the performance, with all those teletubbies costumes, was more of the same.
Now you know who was great? Missy Elliot. Her songs are so cool that they almost made a party start up in this place. That entire Superbowl performance should've been her own.
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Post by Glove Slap on Feb 4, 2015 0:38:32 GMT -5
The show was great. It was very flashy and produced, but that was always to be expected. If I would have changed anything, it would have been Missy and the star at the end. Moreover, this was a great moment for her.
I've always said that a music career, and any career in the public eye, is to an extent a game of expectations. When you surpass those expectations, your achievements are magnified. No one has done that better than her, in part because the bar was set so so low for her at the beginning. She was expected to not last past the summer, her album sales lagged greatly at the beginning. Leona Lewis was expected to have longevity. The critics praised Gaga and trashed her moreso than any of her contemporaries. When expectations are that low, even a mid-level career would have been more than expected back when she first broke through, not to say anything of what actually occurred. Even as the TD singles took off one after one, the early ones were always criticized with statements saying that she was finding success due to Rihanna and Gaga being away. But when push came to shove, she still outperformed them.
And yet all these years later, she somehow managed to play the biggest event in the country. And what's more, she's the first woman and second artist from her generation to do so (Beyonce's public career began over a decade prior). It wasn't Gaga, it wasn't Rihanna, it wasn't Taylor or Miley, it was her. You can get into the technicalities and logistics all you want, but that fact still stands. In many ways, if they don't do anything else for this album, it ends on a perfect note and guarantees her good interest on her next project. It finalizes what has been one of this campaign's main goals since the beginning; it's cemented her place as an expected staple in the business. Even with the underperformance of her last 2 singles, her status has still maintained itself. And for the girl who was expected to fade after 2008 while Leona Lewis and Lady Gaga were expected to sustain their breakthroughs, she's more than exceeded what was expected of her. She's shattered them, and triumphed.
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Post by Ryan on Feb 4, 2015 3:34:56 GMT -5
Katy Perry Set to Perform at Grammys: Exclusive Miller Mobley
Just a week after the Super Bowl, Katy Perry is coming with yet another live spectacular.
Billboard has learned that Perry is preparing a performance for this weekend's Grammy Awards. The singer is planning to bring "By the Grace of God," a touching ballad off her latest album Prism. Perry described the song, where she details contemplating suicide, in a 2013 Billboard cover story saying, "That song is evident of how tough it really was at a certain point. I asked myself, 'Do I want to endure? Should I continue living?'"
The move to turn the tempo down is reminiscent of her 2011 Grammy performance when she opened with Teenage Dream love song "Not Like the Movies" before moving into "Teenage Dream." There's no word on if she's prepping a medley or solely sticking with "Grace."
We also learned the star is producing a highly visual spectacle with dance elements playing a central role.
Perry is the latest performer in an already stacked lineup that includes Madonna, Kanye West, Ariana Grande, Lady Gaga and more, all taking the stage on Feb. 8.
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Post by wjr15 on Feb 4, 2015 8:25:26 GMT -5
Is this gonna be a sixth single??
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Post by icefire9 on Feb 4, 2015 9:23:16 GMT -5
The best moment of watching the halftime show was during Firework, when this little girl at our Superbowl party said that Katy Perry was an angel. Totally adorable.
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Post by bat1990 on Feb 4, 2015 10:52:29 GMT -5
The show was great. It was very flashy and produced, but that was always to be expected. If I would have changed anything, it would have been Missy and the star at the end. Moreover, this was a great moment for her. I've always said that a music career, and any career in the public eye, is to an extent a game of expectations. When you surpass those expectations, your achievements are magnified. No one has done that better than her, in part because the bar was set so so low for her at the beginning. She was expected to not last past the summer, her album sales lagged greatly at the beginning. Leona Lewis was expected to have longevity. The critics praised Gaga and trashed her moreso than any of her contemporaries. When expectations are that low, even a mid-level career would have been more than expected back when she first broke through, not to say anything of what actually occurred. Even as the TD singles took off one after one, the early ones were always criticized with statements saying that she was finding success due to Rihanna and Gaga being away. But when push came to shove, she still outperformed them. And yet all these years later, she somehow managed to play the biggest event in the country. And what's more, she's the first woman and second artist from her generation to do so (Beyonce's public career began over a decade prior). It wasn't Gaga, it wasn't Rihanna, it wasn't Taylor or Miley, it was her. You can get into the technicalities and logistics all you want, but that fact still stands. In many ways, if they don't do anything else for this album, it ends on a perfect note and guarantees her good interest on her next project. It finalizes what has been one of this campaign's main goals since the beginning; it's cemented her place as an expected staple in the business. Even with the underperformance of her last 2 singles, her status has still maintained itself. And for the girl who was expected to fade after 2008 while Leona Lewis and Lady Gaga were expected to sustain their breakthroughs, she's more than exceeded what was expected of her. She's shattered them, and triumphed. Seems reminiscent of Madonna, no? Being written off as a helium-voiced dance singer who just managed to nab some hits with a few catchy hooks suddenly turning into a massive global superstar through the Like a Virgin and True Blue eras.
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Post by ¤ Matthea ¤ on Feb 4, 2015 11:01:15 GMT -5
I listened to Billboard's podcast last week. The guys discussing Katy's SB performance said that Capitol Records confirmed to Billboard there will be no more singles off Prism.
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Post by tommymonster44 on Feb 4, 2015 11:03:03 GMT -5
The show was great. It was very flashy and produced, but that was always to be expected. If I would have changed anything, it would have been Missy and the star at the end. Moreover, this was a great moment for her. I've always said that a music career, and any career in the public eye, is to an extent a game of expectations. When you surpass those expectations, your achievements are magnified. No one has done that better than her, in part because the bar was set so so low for her at the beginning. She was expected to not last past the summer, her album sales lagged greatly at the beginning. Leona Lewis was expected to have longevity. The critics praised Gaga and trashed her moreso than any of her contemporaries. When expectations are that low, even a mid-level career would have been more than expected back when she first broke through, not to say anything of what actually occurred. Even as the TD singles took off one after one, the early ones were always criticized with statements saying that she was finding success due to Rihanna and Gaga being away. But when push came to shove, she still outperformed them. And yet all these years later, she somehow managed to play the biggest event in the country. And what's more, she's the first woman and second artist from her generation to do so (Beyonce's public career began over a decade prior). It wasn't Gaga, it wasn't Rihanna, it wasn't Taylor or Miley, it was her. You can get into the technicalities and logistics all you want, but that fact still stands. In many ways, if they don't do anything else for this album, it ends on a perfect note and guarantees her good interest on her next project. It finalizes what has been one of this campaign's main goals since the beginning; it's cemented her place as an expected staple in the business. Even with the underperformance of her last 2 singles, her status has still maintained itself. And for the girl who was expected to fade after 2008 while Leona Lewis and Lady Gaga were expected to sustain their breakthroughs, she's more than exceeded what was expected of her. She's shattered them, and triumphed. Seems reminiscent of Madonna, no? Being written off as a helium-voiced dance singer who just managed to nab some hits with a few catchy hooks suddenly turning into a massive global superstar through the Like a Virgin and True Blue eras. Madonna comparisons in general annoy me because Madonna is Madonna and each star is a musician in their own right. It seems silly to try to paste together two separate careers. However, I've always thought since the Teenage Dream era took off, that if we are going to compare someone's career trajectory to Madonna's, it would be Katy. Miley Cyrus, Gaga, Rihanna, Kesha, Taylor Swift, Britney Spears, etc are all touted as the 'next Madonna,' but each of their careers is strikingly different. Not that Katy's is a carbon copy, but I think its the closest we've seen. I also find it interesting in how Katy isn't believed to be all that good at anything. Most people do not think that she can sing, dance, act, write a song, design visuals, or really do much of anything. That has always been a common insult launched at Madonna, but she's obviously good at something if she's presently four decades into her pop career.
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Post by Glove Slap on Feb 4, 2015 13:54:48 GMT -5
There is no real comparison for Madonna largely because her impact and legacy is tied into being a pioneer and breaking barriers, so once she's done and credited for that, it can't be done by someone else to the same impact.
But where there is a similarity in their beginnings is the hidden blessing of most people not expecting much of them. Rihanna has benefitted from that as well. When a lot of praise is thrown at you at once, there's not much previous foundation holding you up. If you have to beat credit out of people though, it makes for a much firmer ground.
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Post by SoMuchToSay on Feb 4, 2015 14:57:11 GMT -5
I think the turning point, or "make our break" was with Hot N Cold. Everyone was calling her a one hit wonder, then it ended up out outperforming IKAG in many aspects. But more than anything, it opened her up not only teen girls, but the moms. And she has delivered solid pop music ever since (with a few minor hiccups). But I totally agree, who would've ever guessed in '08 that it would be Katy doing the Super Bowl. I think what hurts artists like Gaga is that they do hit hard with the pop fans, but Katy's got the mass appeal on lock, just like T-Swift.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Feb 4, 2015 15:05:42 GMT -5
Katy Perry Set to Perform at Grammys: ExclusiveMiller Mobley Just a week after the Super Bowl, Katy Perry is coming with yet another live spectacular. Billboard has learned that Perry is preparing a performance for this weekend's Grammy Awards. The singer is planning to bring "By the Grace of God," a touching ballad off her latest album Prism. Perry described the song, where she details contemplating suicide, in a 2013 Billboard cover story saying, "That song is evident of how tough it really was at a certain point. I asked myself, 'Do I want to endure? Should I continue living?'" The move to turn the tempo down is reminiscent of her 2011 Grammy performance when she opened with Teenage Dream love song "Not Like the Movies" before moving into "Teenage Dream." There's no word on if she's prepping a medley or solely sticking with "Grace."We also learned the star is producing a highly visual spectacle with dance elements playing a central role. Perry is the latest performer in an already stacked lineup that includes Madonna, Kanye West, Ariana Grande, Lady Gaga and more, all taking the stage on Feb. 8. This is actually a brillant move - Katy just performed the two biggest hits from PRISM at SB a mere seven days earlier. No way she'd try to top those images and UnC, Birthday and TIHWD are not options. I thought we might finally get LL, but this works. Fingers crossed that we get another POM surprise.....
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Post by kmbgs on Feb 4, 2015 15:12:25 GMT -5
I could see Capitol hoping for a "Glitter In The Air" type moment with this performance. Understated ballad, long after the album's initial run is over, with some sort of eye-catching performance. I don't know if that will happen, but thats probably the angle they're going into this with.
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