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Post by singingsparrow on Oct 29, 2003 3:41:29 GMT -5
The wait is finally over. John Ondrasik and his band are back, fresh off from the successful "Americatown" with the #1 hit "Superman (It's Not Easy)"
Now, in preparation for "The Battle For Everything", can they make a sophomore stand?
"100 Years" is officially the first single from TBFE, which will be released early 2004.
How well do you think Five For Fighting will return to mainstream off this lead single?
Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by arebomb on Oct 29, 2003 10:58:07 GMT -5
LOL, I can't believe anyone would say "the wait is finally over" about a Five For Fighting song. This might go top 20 on HotAC, but I doubt it. This guy is a one hit wonder.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Oct 29, 2003 12:56:02 GMT -5
The best song was 'Easy Tonight'. I'm looking forward to hearing this but I can't see myself loving it or even seeing it being a big hit.
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Post by singingsparrow on Oct 29, 2003 14:10:22 GMT -5
I think "Americatown" had so much more potential and the record label was lazy in promoting it to a fuller extent.
How come "Americatown" and "Something About You" weren't released as singles is one big question I have!
"Something About You" could have been a huge hit of the same magnitude as "Superman" and "Americatown" was also a perfectly radio-friendly track with strong political lyrics.
I remember how long it took "Easy Tonight" to reach the Top 20 on Hot AC. It was in its 16th week or so when that happened, particularly with recurrentitis of "Superman" slowing its growth.
Anyway, after only one release, I don't think it would be fair to label Five For Fighting as a one-hit wonder yet. How this second album performs will tell a lot of this bands future.
Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by Ragin on Oct 29, 2003 14:13:39 GMT -5
I think "Americatown" had so much more potential and the record label was lazy in promoting it to a fuller extent. How come "Americatown" and "Something About You" weren't released as singles is one big question I have! "Something About You" could have been a huge hit of the same magnitude as "Superman" and "Americatown" was also a perfectly radio-friendly track with strong political lyrics. I remember how long it took "Easy Tonight" to reach the Top 20 on Hot AC. It was in its 16th week or so when that happened, particularly with recurrentitis of "Superman" slowing its growth. Anyway, after only one release, I don't think it would be fair to label Five For Fighting as a one-hit wonder yet. How this second album performs will tell a lot of this bands future. Sincerely, Noah Eaton I agree with you on a lot of stuff including this. That was a very good album. I look forwad to their new one.
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Post by j on Oct 29, 2003 14:31:44 GMT -5
The best song was 'Easy Tonight'. Yeah. I fear this new single will be very reminiscent of "Superman" i.e. if you've got a winning formula why do something different. I hope it's not tho, because I've grown to hate "Superman."
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Oct 29, 2003 21:22:24 GMT -5
I thought the title track was released as a single? It made my chart, anyway.
I'd say the new single will probably be more of an upbeat song compared to 'Superman'. But it'll be nothing special.
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Post by Radical347 on Oct 29, 2003 22:56:36 GMT -5
I think "Americatown" had so much more potential and the record label was lazy in promoting it to a fuller extent. How come "Americatown" and "Something About You" weren't released as singles is one big question I have! "Something About You" could have been a huge hit of the same magnitude as "Superman" and "Americatown" was also a perfectly radio-friendly track with strong political lyrics. I remember how long it took "Easy Tonight" to reach the Top 20 on Hot AC. It was in its 16th week or so when that happened, particularly with recurrentitis of "Superman" slowing its growth. I disagree with all of the above. I don't think any of the songs on that album were pop material, even "Superman." The only reason that hit the pop chart was because of its novelty, and it Top 20 on pop had the record company not pushed it as much as it did. I like it, but it's slow, whiny, kinda boring, and not hooky. There was absolutely nothing pop about that song. Decent for AC though. "America Town" was released as a single. It charted on AAA, though not as well as the other two singles. The only other place it might have had potential to chart is Hot AC. It would have done exactly the same on pop (nothing) had it been released there because it's political without being pretentious, so why bother releasing it there. It's disqualified from AC because of the 'bad' lyrics. He will be a one hit wonder in the minds of popheads, because no matter what he releases from now on, everyone will remember him for "Superman." Kind of like how all popheads label Aqua a one hit wonder for "Barbie Girl" even though "Turn Back Time" was a bigger hit. I agree with your second sentence though, just because the second album's performance will be dismal. The best song was 'Easy Tonight'. Yep. He has a lot of talent, but I think he just happened to hit everything right for that song and for some reason I don't see him doing it again.
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Post by singingsparrow on Oct 30, 2003 16:09:30 GMT -5
I disagree with all of the above. I don't think any of the songs on that album were pop material, even "Superman." The only reason that hit the pop chart was because of its novelty, and it Top 20 on pop had the record company not pushed it as much as it did. I like it, but it's slow, whiny, kinda boring, and not hooky. There was absolutely nothing pop about that song. Decent for AC though. "America Town" was released as a single. It charted on AAA, though not as well as the other two singles. The only other place it might have had potential to chart is Hot AC. It would have done exactly the same on pop (nothing) had it been released there because it's political without being pretentious, so why bother releasing it there. It's disqualified from AC because of the 'bad' lyrics. He will be a one hit wonder in the minds of popheads, because no matter what he releases from now on, everyone will remember him for "Superman." Kind of like how all popheads label Aqua a one hit wonder for "Barbie Girl" even though "Turn Back Time" was a bigger hit. I agree with your second sentence though, just because the second album's performance will be dismal. Yep. He has a lot of talent, but I think he just happened to hit everything right for that song and for some reason I don't see him doing it again. But "Superman" didn't just MAKE the Pop chart, it went Top-10 on the Pop Chart (peaked at #14 on the Billboard Hot 100). So obviously many found something Pop-friendly about it. And I disagree with much of what you said. "Something About You" is incredibly catchy and would have made a huge hit for the band had it been released not too long after "Superman" peaked. "Something About You" had that kind of "Dawson Creek-The OC" appeal that would seduce many young women listeners in particular like John Mayer has been able to do so much. As with "Americatown", lyrically it may not have stuck in the minds of CHR/Pop listeners but then again, so many do not understand the esoteric lyrics of R.E.M and they earned so many hits in the 90's with a political punch simply because their music was catchy and radio-friendly. "Americatown" had that musical hook. The part I do agree with you on is that many will only remember John Ondrasik for "Superman" but only because his record label took for granted what a couple other singles could have accomplished from his album. Because he only got one big hit on his debut, he'll struggle to repeat that feat from here on. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by Matt4319 on Oct 30, 2003 16:25:39 GMT -5
"Superman" peaked at #15 on the CHR/Pop chart.
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Post by Matt4319 on Nov 6, 2003 2:05:11 GMT -5
I fear this new single will be very reminiscent of "Superman" i.e. if you've got a winning formula why do something different. Unfortunately, your assumption has turned out to be correct. There's a full clip up here, and while it's slightly more upbeat than "Superman", it's the same piano-driven type of song. The falsetto gets very annoying by the two-minute point of the song.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2003 8:49:13 GMT -5
I don't like it at all.
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Post by Radical347 on Nov 6, 2003 15:29:54 GMT -5
This song is gorgeous.
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Post by Mega248 on Nov 8, 2003 14:07:25 GMT -5
This song is pretty good, though I agree that the falsetto does get a bit annoying.
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Post by JCMF3 on Nov 9, 2003 15:08:24 GMT -5
"Superman" peaked at #15 on the CHR/Pop chart. Thanks Matt for bringing this up. Usuually, Noah is much better than this in his arguments, but I think he let is overenthusiasm for FFF take over too much!
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Post by BigD on Nov 10, 2003 14:20:46 GMT -5
KYSR in LA has bumped this song to number one in their airplay with 55 spins in the last week! I'm surprised this station jumped on the song so quickly. Anyway, I heard it the other day and was not overly impressed. I imagine it'll peak around #13 on Hot AC.
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Post by Matt4319 on Nov 12, 2003 18:00:30 GMT -5
For some reason, the AllAccess link was taken down, but there's a clip of it up now on the front page of AlternativeAddiction.com.
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Nov 15, 2003 20:40:20 GMT -5
This song is ok. The falsetto is a little rough. I think it could hit the top-10, but it won't be Superman. It tied for the top in adds in Hot AC with My Immortal, but I can see My Immortal pass it.
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Post by singingsparrow on Dec 3, 2003 20:53:26 GMT -5
Wow! "100 Years" is doing quite well out of the gates. I was a little worried they'd hit a similar Vertical Horizon-esque blockade, but now it seems certain to soar much deeper into the Top 20.
It has already outpaced Jason Mraz's "You & I Both" for the climb into the Top 20, despite Jason Mraz making it at #20 at Sunday's update. Meanwhile, on Triple A, it's not doing shabby either, debuting at #22 on that chart.
Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by singingsparrow on Jan 10, 2004 13:31:04 GMT -5
I'm beginning to feel this can actually be a big suprising hit.
I was waiting to see if "100 Years" could climb above the first obstacle: getting received. Now a majority of the panel is playing the song and it maintains a triple digit bullet approaching the Top 10 on Hot AC and nearing the top five on Triple A..
I wouldn't be suprised if this crosses over to CHR/Pop and makes the Top 30 at least. It is another piano ballad but the piano has been an accepted part of many recent CHR/Pop hits, from Christina Aguilera to Coldplay to Evanescence. Plus I think it is very poetic but in a way many can relate, especially for all those who read "The Five People You Meet In Heaven", a current New York Times bestseller, a tearjerker that has touched many from Mitch Albol of life, love, death, and heaven that many close friends of mine said "100 Years" reminds them of the book.
I am beginning to believe this could be a Top 5 hit on Hot AC now that it has proven to climb over the biggest obstacle.
Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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