Leader singers of established Hot AC bands go solo

[Devil Marlena Nylund]

As I mentioned alittle in the Pat Monahan topic, what are some other bands to eventually sprout a lead singer to get hits on Hot AC?

Basically, I'm asking for examples like that of Train -> Pat Monahan or Matchbox Twenty -> Rob Thomas. I'm wondering if there's any sort of trend between how established a band is and how well known the lead singer is before the release of his/her first solo single.

Does anyone have Hot AC chart histories for Matchbox Twenty and then later on, Rob Thomas?
And Train -> Pat Monahan
Tonic - Emerson Hart
No Doubt -> Gwen Stefani

others?

[Chase]

themaxonline said:

As I mentioned alittle in the Pat Monahan topic, what are some other bands to eventually sprout a lead singer to get hits on Hot AC?

Basically, I'm asking for examples like that of Train -> Pat Monahan or Matchbox Twenty -> Rob Thomas. I'm wondering if there's any sort of trend between how established a band is and how well known the lead singer is before the release of his/her first solo single.

Does anyone have Hot AC chart histories for Matchbox Twenty and then later on, Rob Thomas?
And Train -> Pat Monahan
Tonic - Emerson Hart
No Doubt -> Gwen Stefani

others?

I guess Johnny Rzeznik technically fits this description.

[Devil Marlena Nylund]

He does!

His song didn't do all that great tho. Considering the Goo Goo Dolls are more known than, say, Train, I think it's surprising that Pat may get a bigger hit than Johnny.

[Kid Pulse]

Matchbox Twenty


Push- #6
3 AM- #1 for 11 weeks
Real World- #3
Back 2 Good- #4
Bent- #1 for 13 weeks
If You're Gone- #1 for 10 weeks
Mad Season- #6
Last Beautiful Girl- #17
Disease- #4
Unwell- #1 for 20 total weeks
Bright Lights- #2
Downfall- #28
How Far We've Come- #7 and rising


Rob Thomas SOLO

Lonley No More- #1 for 10 weeks
This Is How a Heart Breaks- #3
Ever the Same- #2
Streetcorner Symphony- #4
Little Wonders- #5


With Santana

Smooth- Record-breaking 23 weeks at #1

[jonathan]

Darius Rucker is releasing a solo country album in Jan/Feb of 08 with a first single hitting radio anytime. I have no doubt he'll be crossing over to Hot AC with capitol behind the project.

[atlantaboy]

jonathan said:

Darius Rucker is releasing a solo country album in Jan/Feb of 08 with a first single hitting radio anytime. I have no doubt he'll be crossing over to Hot AC with capitol behind the project.

He already tried it in 2002 and it pretty much flopped...but it was pretty neat to hear him sing a sort of R&B/rock combination

I thought "I'm Still Here" by John Rzeznik was a pretty decent size hit on Hot AC - it made it into the teens on the CHR/HAC combo chart and stayed for about 16 weeks

"Hero" was basically a solo hit by Chad Kroeger (not sure what Josey Scott did except play guitar I think and back him up on vocals)

[No Brake$]

The guy from Blessid Union Of Souls did

Also:
Nina Gordon- Tonight And The Rest Of My Life (Veruca Salt)
Natalie Merchant- (many hits) (10,000 Maniacs)
Chad Kroeger- (two songs with Santana, Hero) (Nickelback)
Jon Bon Jovi- Always

[atlantaboy]

rkwo said:

The guy from Blessid Union Of Souls did

Also:
Nina Gordon- Tonight And The Rest Of My Life (Veruca Salt)
Natalie Merchant- (many hits) (10,000 Maniacs)
Chad Kroeger- (two songs with Santana, Hero) (Nickelback)
Jon Bon Jovi- Always

???

Lead singer of Blessed Union Of Souls was Eliot Sloan - he never had a Top 40 solo hit on CHR or HAC - not sure what u mean

Nina Gordon I thought was the ex-lead singer of Berlin

Jon Bon Jovi went solo, but not with "Always" - his solo hits were "Blaze Of Glory" "Miracle" "Levon" and "Midnight In Chelsea"

[jonathan]

atlantaboy said:

jonathan said:

Darius Rucker is releasing a solo country album in Jan/Feb of 08 with a first single hitting radio anytime. I have no doubt he'll be crossing over to Hot AC with capitol behind the project.

He already tried it in 2002 and it pretty much flopped...but it was pretty neat to hear him sing a sort of R&B/rock combination

This is going to be just a little bit different. He has a major label behind him and he's not trying to revamp his image. Hootie has inched closer and closer toward the country market and it shined through on 3 or 4 tracks on their last album. Darius will do well, and it's going to help having a bunch of guest stars including Vince Gill and Allison Krauss.

[jonathan]

jonathan said:

atlantaboy said:

He already tried it in 2002 and it pretty much flopped...but it was pretty neat to hear him sing a sort of R&B/rock combination

This is going to be just a little bit different. He has a major label behind him and he's not trying to revamp his image. Hootie has inched closer and closer toward the country market and it shined through on 3 or 4 tracks on their last album. Darius will do well, and it's going to help having a bunch of guest stars

According to their guitarist its very pop oriented, i wouldn't be surprised to see Darius score a Hot AC hit, frankly i expect it.

[Hot AC Archiver]

atlantaboy said:

rkwo said:

The guy from Blessid Union Of Souls did

Also:
Nina Gordon- Tonight And The Rest Of My Life (Veruca Salt)
Natalie Merchant- (many hits) (10,000 Maniacs)
Chad Kroeger- (two songs with Santana, Hero) (Nickelback)
Jon Bon Jovi- Always

???

Lead singer of Blessed Union Of Souls was Eliot Sloan - he never had a Top 40 solo hit on CHR or HAC - not sure what u mean

Nina Gordon I thought was the ex-lead singer of Berlin

Jon Bon Jovi went solo, but not with "Always" - his solo hits were "Blaze Of Glory" "Miracle" "Levon" and "Midnight In Chelsea"

Teri Nunn was the lead singer for Berlin. Nina was indeed from Veruca Salt.

[JCMF3]

video545 said:

Matchbox Twenty


Push- #6
3 AM- #1 for 11 weeks
Real World- #3
Back 2 Good- #4
Bent- #1 for 13 weeks
If You're Gone- #1 for 12 weeks
Mad Season- #6
Last Beautiful Girl- #17
Disease- #4
Unwell- #1 for 20 total weeks
Bright Lights- #2
Downfall-
How Far We've Come- #7 and rising


Rob Thomas SOLO

Lonley No More- #1 for 10 weeks
This Is How a Heart Breaks- #3
Ever the Same- #2
Streetcorner Symphony- #4
Little Wonders- #5


With Santana

Smooth- Record-breaking 25 weeks at #1

Are these on Billboard? Because Smooth only spent 23 week @ #1 on R&R, the record for most week at #1 by any song on any chart (tied with Drift Away on the AC chart).

[atlantaboy]

at40fantoo said:

atlantaboy said:

???

Lead singer of Blessed Union Of Souls was Eliot Sloan - he never had a Top 40 solo hit on CHR or HAC - not sure what u mean

Nina Gordon I thought was the ex-lead singer of Berlin

Jon Bon Jovi went solo, but not with "Always" - his solo hits were "Blaze Of Glory" "Miracle" "Levon" and "Midnight In Chelsea"

Teri Nunn was the lead singer for Berlin. Nina was indeed from Veruca Salt.

Whoops sorry - did Veruca Salt even hit Hot AC? The only song I can remember is "Seether" (the song not the band) which came out I think around '95 when Hot AC def. wouldn't have played it, only Alternative and Alt-leaning CHRs

Also, apparently Dolores O'Riardon (or however you spell it) from the Cranberries is goin solo

Oh you guys forgot Scott Stapp from Creed...I know "The Great Divide" edged into the Hot AC Top 40 a couple years ago

[Slinky]

Alex Band from the Calling if you want to count his song with Santana.

Alex Band's version of "Why Don't You And I" was infinitely more successful than Chad Kroeger's.

[Kid Pulse]

jcmf3 said:

video545 said:

Matchbox Twenty


Push- #6
3 AM- #1 for 11 weeks
Real World- #3
Back 2 Good- #4
Bent- #1 for 13 weeks
If You're Gone- #1 for 12 weeks
Mad Season- #6
Last Beautiful Girl- #17
Disease- #4
Unwell- #1 for 20 total weeks
Bright Lights- #2
Downfall-
How Far We've Come- #7 and rising


Rob Thomas SOLO

Lonley No More- #1 for 10 weeks
This Is How a Heart Breaks- #3
Ever the Same- #2
Streetcorner Symphony- #4
Little Wonders- #5


With Santana

Smooth- Record-breaking 25 weeks at #1

Are these on Billboard? Because Smooth only spent 23 week @ #1 on R&R, the record for most week at #1 by any song on any chart (tied with Drift Away on the AC chart).

No, I used R&R but I incuded the holiday break wrong I guess. Thanks for pointing that out.

In that case, I might be wrong about "If You're Gone" as well, but I'll wait to make sure.

[atlantaboy]

video545 said:

Matchbox Twenty


Push- #6
3 AM- #1 for 11 weeks
Real World- #3
Back 2 Good- #4
Bent- #1 for 13 weeks
If You're Gone- #1 for 12 weeks
Mad Season- #6
Last Beautiful Girl- #17
Disease- #4
Unwell- #1 for 20 total weeks
Bright Lights- #2
Downfall-
How Far We've Come- #7 and rising

Look how "Push" and "Mad Season" both peaked at #6 - the Hot AC chart in 1997 was too conservative (I think a lot of HACs back then were like ACs today) - and def. don't think "Disease" was a bigger hit than "Push" - looks like HAC didn't really "adjust" to pop/alternative until 1998

[Devil Marlena Nylund]

Downfall peaked at #27, btw.

[Kid Pulse]

I knew it peaked at #27 on Billboard, not sure about R&R though. Thanks.

[Devil Marlena Nylund]

I'm pretty sure it peaked at #27 on R&R. I don't follow Billboard. You're welcome.

[Hot AC Archiver]

If You’re Gone spent 10 weeks at #1.

Downfall peaked at #28 (for 2 weeks).

These are R&R numbers without holiday weeks counted.

[shocker]

themaxonline said:

As I mentioned alittle in the Pat Monahan topic, what are some other bands to eventually sprout a lead singer to get hits on Hot AC?

No Doubt was a successful band with an unknown female lead singer. But when that lead singer went solo, she became even more successful on both pop and Hot AC than her band had ever been - with possibly the exception of the song "Don't Speak".

Also, Bono of U2 tried going solo without much success; but he did have a #18 hit with the Corrs in 2002 with the Ryan Adams-penned "When the Stars Go Blue".

[shocker]

atlantaboy said:

Look how "Push" and "Mad Season" both peaked at #6 - the Hot AC chart in 1997 was too conservative (I think a lot of HACs back then were like ACs today) - and def. don't think "Disease" was a bigger hit than "Push" - looks like HAC didn't really "adjust" to pop/alternative until 1998

That push to pop-alternative began in 1997, but it became very obvious in '98 with songs like "Sex and Candy", "Closing Time", and "One Week" charting incredibly high on the Hot AC chart.

If "Push" had been released in 1998 or after, it would have peaked in the top 3 - possibly even #1.

[atlantaboy]

shocker said:

atlantaboy said:

Look how "Push" and "Mad Season" both peaked at #6 - the Hot AC chart in 1997 was too conservative (I think a lot of HACs back then were like ACs today) - and def. don't think "Disease" was a bigger hit than "Push" - looks like HAC didn't really "adjust" to pop/alternative until 1998

That push to pop-alternative began in 1997, but it became very obvious in '98 with songs like "Sex and Candy", "Closing Time", and "One Week" charting incredibly high on the Hot AC chart.

If "Push" had been released in 1998 or after, it would have peaked in the top 3 - possibly even #1.

Completely agree with that - I remember when people couldn't believe that WPLJ was playin "Semi-Charmed Life" in high rotation...I'd almost say that was the first song (that I can remember) that really started transforming Hot AC from "soft CHR" to "pop/alternative"