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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2012 12:35:43 GMT -5
Rhenna your song is bleh. We aren't friends now. So then what was all that stuff you were posting to me yesterday? You needed to repent for disliking WFL by liking this; I didn't.
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Post by moore746 on Sept 26, 2012 12:35:50 GMT -5
She releases one song where she is clearly biting someone else's style and, all of a sudden, she's this studio bimbo who has made a career out of following what TPTB have set out for her. Well...maybe/kind of. I mean, lbr, no one has ever thought that Rihanna has controlled everything and been a forceful leader in her career, but she was certainly given some due credit for direction and carving out the musical persona she has. But that sort of credibility was wafer-thin, built more off her attitude than evidence; so when something like this comes out, it really shines a light on how shallow that evidence and line of thinking was. It also brings to mind other moments in her career that she seemed ready to stray into other sonic deliveries--"Who's That Chick," "Man Down," etc. (to be clear, I don't think these are mis-steps and I don't think she shouldn't explore such deliveries, I just don't credit those explorations to her). I don't think it wipes away six albums of work, but it highlights a clear lack of personal control and vision. How many artists have suddenly sounded different on a lead single for their seventh album, without a clear path already having been forged to explain the change of sound? It's not definitive, it's just...fishy. Madonna.
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Post by astronut on Sept 26, 2012 12:39:02 GMT -5
Damn. The song hasn't even been out for 6 hours yet and it's already gotten ugly. Other than an understandably mixed reaction to the song itself, all I've seen in here is "Rihanna has achieved an astonishing eleven #1 hits and has consistently sold more than a million copies per album for the past six years. That's just fishy. So let's not give any credit to Rihanna for her success whatsoever." There's no way that she just genuinely cares about making music for her fans and works non-stop in the studio and on tour to deliver what they want. Nope. All the credit has to go to everyone else who has worked with Rihanna along the way, and there is not a single other artist in the mainstream industry to whom this also applies.
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Post by nick64 on Sept 26, 2012 12:39:02 GMT -5
Love it! Best lead single since RR!!
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Post by dbhmr on Sept 26, 2012 12:40:27 GMT -5
My criticism of her vocal delivery and its mild effect on how I see her on the artist is, somehow, overshadowing the fact that I've already said I like the song. So whatever. Well...maybe/kind of. I mean, lbr, no one has ever thought that Rihanna has controlled everything and been a forceful leader in her career, but she was certainly given some due credit for direction and carving out the musical persona she has. But that sort of credibility was wafer-thin, built more off her attitude than evidence; so when something like this comes out, it really shines a light on how shallow that evidence and line of thinking was. It also brings to mind other moments in her career that she seemed ready to stray into other sonic deliveries--"Who's That Chick," "Man Down," etc. (to be clear, I don't think these are mis-steps and I don't think she shouldn't explore such deliveries, I just don't credit those explorations to her). I don't think it wipes away six albums of work, but it highlights a clear lack of personal control and vision. How many artists have suddenly sounded different on a lead single for their seventh album, without a clear path already having been forged to explain the change of sound? It's not definitive, it's just...fishy. Madonna. lawl @ this comparison
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Post by ₫anny Jerz ♔ on Sept 26, 2012 12:45:30 GMT -5
Damn. The song hasn't even been out for 6 hours yet and it's already gotten ugly. Other than an understandably mixed reaction to the song itself, all I've seen in here is "Rihanna has achieved an astonishing eleven #1 hits and has consistently sold more than a million copies per album for the past six years. That's just fishy. So let's not give any credit to Rihanna for her success whatsoever." There's no way that she just genuinely cares about making music for her fans and works non-stop in the studio and on tour to deliver what they want. Nope. All the credit has to go to everyone else who has worked with Rihanna along the way, and there is not a single other artist in the mainstream industry to whom this also applies. To be fair, no one is making any of those claims. I was simply refuting the claim that her clear shift in affection in this one single is enough to question the overall control and vision that she has had over her career, and the claim that she hasn't carved out her own sound over the years. You can build your own sound without rehashing your previous material over-and-over again. Rihanna has consistently switched up her sound, sonically, while still infusing her own style, attitude, persona, and distinct vocals. She's broader than most one-dimensional pop stars. Some will complain that it's inconsistent and inauthentic; I call it versatility. There are many shades to people, and that extends to singers as well, especially someone as young as Rihanna who continues to grow and evolve. People are running with certain ideas based off of this one single. That's all I'm saying.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2012 12:50:32 GMT -5
It sounds like a Rated R reject being sung in the style of Sia karaoke. But I think I like it. Gives me hope that the album is at least a dollar store version of Rated R ( which would still s**t all over Loud and Talk That Talk). Nice try. Rated R > Rihanna's career. ;) Not here for club Rihanna, sorry.
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Post by hitseeker. on Sept 26, 2012 12:54:06 GMT -5
I don't see this being different sonically and vocally as testament as to how she's someone who only sings what's given to her and displaying a lack of creativity and vision. My opinion is quite the opposite actually: she shows that she can bring something new to the table with each release. As a fan that's what I love about her and I actually applaud her for trying to make something different from what she's done so far. Also, lbr here: this song is pop with R&B influences, at least to me, which is something she's done pretty much since the beginning of her career, this just has a different Beat and vocal style from her other lead singles, but falls into the pop/R&B Rihanna spectrum, in my opinion.
Also, the reactions here just state the obvious once again: you cannot possibly please everyone; had she released a WFL clone, some people would have said that she was getting lazy, playing safe and etc, now that she releases this people say that she should have released something like WFL or at least a dance track, either because they we're writing for something more hard hitting or because that's the kind of music they like from Rihanna...To each his own, and I'm sure some people will love this a few days from now saying that it has grown on them. Rihanna is not only a pop-dance act.
I'm aware that I stan for her and that my opinion of the song/her may be 'magnified' because of that, but still I felt like I should post these thoughts, just my two cents.
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Post by vantiboy3 on Sept 26, 2012 13:04:05 GMT -5
Rihanna is Rihanna. Has always been. Will always be. She might not write, compose and produce her own songs, but she sure as hell ALWAYS gets the right material to smash like only she knows how. And lets not pretend that she's the only one in this industry. People saying she doesn't have control (creative or otherwise) over her career should just stop. The girl knows a good song when she hears it, and so does her team. Just like Whitney, just like Aretha, their teams always had the right material for them.
Let the girl be.
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Post by Wavey✨️ on Sept 26, 2012 13:05:54 GMT -5
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Post by nfl46 on Sept 26, 2012 13:19:54 GMT -5
Dear Taylor,
Rihanna is about to snatch your wig.
Seriously,
Rihanna Navy
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Post by josh on Sept 26, 2012 13:22:26 GMT -5
And then next Tuesday Taylor (or 1D) will snatch it right back. And the next Tuesday. And the next. So I really don't see your point.
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Post by Surf on Sept 26, 2012 13:26:10 GMT -5
Well it's good that she went into another direction. She should atleast be applauded for that alone. This isn't as instant because it isn't a typical dance production. It's decent enough. It may take a couple of listens before you can really get into it though. She probably understands herself that releasing the same sorta material back to back, and showing no growth as an artist isn't helpful to her.
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Post by d.t.m on Sept 26, 2012 13:28:12 GMT -5
#4!
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Post by moore746 on Sept 26, 2012 13:28:40 GMT -5
Well it's good that she went into another direction. She should atleast be applauded for that alone. This isn't as instant because it isn't a typical dance production. It's decent enough. It may take a couple of listens before you can really get into it though. She probably understands herself that releasing the same sorta material back to back, and showing no growth as an artist isn't helpful to her. That isn't necessarily true. Look at What's My Name?
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Post by Active Aggressive on Sept 26, 2012 13:29:33 GMT -5
No. OMG they actually got her to hit the notes for once :o No. I was hoping for something worth listening to. I can't believe the record company heard this and thought it was a first single or even an acceptable release on any level. It's terrible end to end. First time I have agreed with you word for word. Thank you Rihanna. :'( she sounds bad, like her mouth is full. Full of weed smoke. Don't get the LDR comparisons at all. Yeah...no. I bet Sia did a demo and Rihanna tried to copy it note by note. There's no other explanation for her vocals sounding that weird. Bingo! It's blatant, insulting to Sia's immeasurable talents, and just plain...wrong. I imagine Sia sounds no different on the demo. It's moments like these in which I'm reminded how little Rihanna has to offer beyond what is already outlined for her. Precisely. I will NEVER fault Rihanna for staying in her predestined lane again. :'( And then next Tuesday Taylor (or 1D) will snatch it right back. And the next Tuesday. And the next. So I really don't see your point. If you think Taylor is even REMOTELY scared of Rihanna at this point, of ALL points, in her career then...
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Post by nfl46 on Sept 26, 2012 13:34:46 GMT -5
And then next Tuesday Taylor (or 1D) will snatch it right back. And the next Tuesday. And the next. So I really don't see your point. Here you go...always trying to turn a positive into a negative. Please shut up. Thanks.
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Post by EPG on Sept 26, 2012 13:43:27 GMT -5
It's hilarious reading these comments when you are in the minority of a Rihanna single release. LOL
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Post by josh on Sept 26, 2012 13:44:18 GMT -5
And then next Tuesday Taylor (or 1D) will snatch it right back. And the next Tuesday. And the next. So I really don't see your point. Here you go...always trying to turn a positive into a negative. Please shut up. Thanks. No. Taylor's song is currently only a promo single. It's obviously going to fall from #1, so I wouldn't call that "snatching Taylor's wig"
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Post by Surf on Sept 26, 2012 13:44:53 GMT -5
Well it's good that she went into another direction. She should atleast be applauded for that alone. This isn't as instant because it isn't a typical dance production. It's decent enough. It may take a couple of listens before you can really get into it though. She probably understands herself that releasing the same sorta material back to back, and showing no growth as an artist isn't helpful to her. That isn't necessarily true. Look at What's My Name? Yeah but "What's My Name" was more of an infectious and catchy pop tune. This is a little left for her. This sounds similar to "RR".
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Post by Nicolexo on Sept 26, 2012 13:47:54 GMT -5
That isn't necessarily true. Look at What's My Name? Yeah but "What's My Name" was more of an infectious and catchy pop tune. This is a little left for her. This sounds similar to "RR". Hmm, really? RR was different (obviously) and so is this, but RR had a very dark feeling...this song doesn't feel dark at all. :)
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Sept 26, 2012 13:48:55 GMT -5
My sister I guess is now this big Lana Del Rey stan and says that this is a rip-off of 'Born To Die' and hates Rihanna.
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Post by Sir Benji on Sept 26, 2012 13:52:03 GMT -5
*waits for more fan meltdowns*
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2012 13:54:44 GMT -5
The navy is such a horrible Stan base name, maybe tied with the Katy Kats :$ This will grow on me I assume. And for me The first single is never my favorite release(minus umbrella)
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Post by nick64 on Sept 26, 2012 13:58:38 GMT -5
Here you go...always trying to turn a positive into a negative. Please shut up. Thanks. No. Taylor's song is currently only a promo single. It's obviously going to fall from #1, so I wouldn't call that "snatching Taylor's wig" It's actually her second country single. Probably won't make much of a difference but whatever
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Post by p0isonparadise. on Sept 26, 2012 13:59:08 GMT -5
I'm used to Britney, Gaga, and Madonna causing this kind of reaction when they release their singles, not Rihanna. I'm loving this.
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Post by josh on Sept 26, 2012 14:02:02 GMT -5
No. Taylor's song is currently only a promo single. It's obviously going to fall from #1, so I wouldn't call that "snatching Taylor's wig" It's actually her second country single. Probably won't make much of a difference but whatever That's why I said currently. I figured it would debut top 50 today but it didn't so it's not making as big a splash as I would have thought. So for now it's just promo in my eyes. Plus country singles rarely break top 10. Sure she's a big seller but she got a big boost already, making top 10 later less likely.
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Post by hitseeker. on Sept 26, 2012 14:02:02 GMT -5
Can anyone post this song's current position on iTunes stores worldwide? I don't iTunes installed on this computer. Thanks in advance :)
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Post by Not Careful Enough on Sept 26, 2012 14:03:22 GMT -5
This is amazing. All of you can stay mad. ;)
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Post by Janhova's Witness on Sept 26, 2012 14:06:28 GMT -5
I see the stans in here praising Robyn for "trying something different" to counter the lukewarm reception to the song itself. You know, it's possible to deliver both a different sound and a quality product. Sadly, that's not the case here.
And if they had released a "We Found Love" Part 2 instead of this mess, you know these same people would be all over it like white on rice.
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