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Post by Enigma. on Sept 26, 2012 14:16:36 GMT -5
Interesting to see if Pink can stay in top 3. Probably not but we can see four albums over 100k.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Sept 26, 2012 15:53:46 GMT -5
Mumford & Sons' 'Babel' on Track to Sell a Whopping 600,000 Copies in First Week September 26, 2012 | By Keith Caulfield ( keith_caulfield), Los Angeles Mumford & Sons is heading for a massive week. The rock quartet's new album "Babel" is on course to sell as much as 600,000 copies by the end of the tracking week on Sunday, Sept. 30 -- so say industry sources. The set, released yesterday (Sept. 25), will easily debut atop the Billboard 200 next week, giving the band its first chart-topper. The new Billboard 200 chart's top 10 will be revealed on the morning of Wednesday, Oct. 3. "Babel's" forecasted sales should give the band the biggest debut week this year, surpassing Justin Bieber's "Believe" launch with 374,000 according to Nielsen SoundScan. Mumford & Sons will also tally the largest sales frame for any rock album (debut or otherwise) since AC/DC's "Black Ice" stormed in with 784,000 at No. 1 on the Nov. 8, 2008 chart. Further, "Babel," released on Gentlemen of the Road through Glassnote Records, will nab the largest sales week ever for RED Distribution and the first No. 1 for Glassnote. RED -- which is Sony's indie distribution arm -- saw its previous highest week when Bone Thugs-N-Harmony's 1997 album "The Art of War" (Ruthless/Relativity) sell 394,000 in its debut at No. 1. "Babel's" digital sales are through the roof, according to sources. It will likely lock in the second-largest sales week ever for a digital album, as it could sell more than 400,000 downloads. The biggest digital week ever for a set belongs to Lady Gaga's "Born This Way," which moved 662,000 downloads in its first week. (A chunk of that figure was driven by Amazon MP3's sale pricing of the set at 99-cents for two days during release week.) "Babel" is Mumford & Sons' second studio album, and follows 2010's "Sigh No More." The latter has sold 2.5 million in the U.S. according to SoundScan and peaked at No. 2 on the Billboard 200. The new album's lead single, "I Will Wait," is bulleted at No. 2 -- its so far peak -- on the Alternative Songs chart. The tune debuted and peaked at No. 23 on the Billboard Hot 100 in August. Mumford & Sons wasn't the only major act to drop a new album yesterday, as Green Day, No Doubt and Lupe Fiasco all issued their latest releases. At the present, it looks as if Green Day's "Uno!" will bow in the No. 2 slot with perhaps 150,000 or so, while No Doubt's "Push and Shove" is headed for No. 3 with 125,000. Fiasco's "Food and Liquor II" is aiming for the No. 4 position with perhaps 100,000. Read more at www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/industry/retail/mumford-sons-babel-on-track-to-sell-a-whopping-1007959612.story#KxBohdUR2Ro9FvUk.99
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Post by when the pawn... on Sept 26, 2012 16:32:37 GMT -5
:o The biggest sales week for a rock album in almost 4 years! And that was AC/DC. Coldplay also sold 700k+ that year.
Wow!
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Post by fridayteenage on Sept 26, 2012 16:37:08 GMT -5
So...ahead of 1D?
Very impressive.
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Post by josh on Sept 26, 2012 16:42:32 GMT -5
Are you talking about the rumored 500k for 1D's November album? Being so far away that could change drastically, in either direction. Insert pun here: Although I only expect it to go on "One Direction:" up. ;)
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 26, 2012 17:14:09 GMT -5
Great news for the industry. M&S developed quite a following with that first record.
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Post by swim on Sept 26, 2012 18:20:21 GMT -5
I wonder if Green Day had a banner or, really, ANYTHING on the iTunes front page if it would have cleared 200k. The only visible sign of a new Green Day album is that one of the three versions is in the top 10 under Top 10 albums.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2012 18:20:30 GMT -5
Mumford & Sons are considered rock?
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Post by spicemuncher on Sept 26, 2012 18:54:34 GMT -5
#4 with 100k, meaning Pink is gonna sell less than that this week, so probably a 70% decrease. I hope she manages 80k or so.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Sept 26, 2012 19:48:25 GMT -5
I wonder if Green Day had a banner or, really, ANYTHING on the iTunes front page if it would have cleared 200k. The only visible sign of a new Green Day album is that one of the three versions is in the top 10 under Top 10 albums. I just found out Green Day's total includes ticket/album bundles. Only digital albums were offered. My friend received 3 digital albums because he bought 3 concert tickets.
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Post by swim on Sept 26, 2012 20:23:38 GMT -5
Was the cost of the album figured in to prices then? I thought I read the other day that if it was a give a way as a concert promotion it didn't count.
I bought tickets for everyone I'm going with so I received five copies, well plus the one physical I also bought. There was an option to add Dos and Tre for an additional (I believe discounted!) price which I thought WOULD COUNT in the totals since they're being purchased.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Sept 26, 2012 20:26:54 GMT -5
Good for Mumford and solid for Green Day. I am a bit sad No Doubt didn't do more, but that is because I love them and not because I expected them to do more.
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Post by G-Reg on Sept 26, 2012 22:51:37 GMT -5
Hah. I just bought the album on iTunes, then saw this. Looks like I'm one of the masses! The only album I've bought this year. Though I already had the "I Will Wait" single so I just 'completed my album.' Does this still count as an album sale???
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Post by josh on Sept 26, 2012 22:57:15 GMT -5
Yes it counts as an album sale. It also counts as a -1 sale for the single, though.
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Post by G-Reg on Sept 26, 2012 23:18:32 GMT -5
Cool, thanks! I'm glad.
But I bought the single a few weeks ago... I mean the chart position already happened. Not that 1 sale would change a chart position, but what if this week 100,000 people who already purchased I Will Wait decide to complete their album?
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Post by realnewlight on Sept 27, 2012 1:23:40 GMT -5
I wonder if Green Day had a banner or, really, ANYTHING on the iTunes front page if it would have cleared 200k. The only visible sign of a new Green Day album is that one of the three versions is in the top 10 under Top 10 albums. I just found out Green Day's total includes ticket/album bundles. Only digital albums were offered. My friend received 3 digital albums because he bought 3 concert tickets. Are those counted on Billboard?
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Post by RAFA on Sept 27, 2012 7:27:22 GMT -5
Cool, thanks! I'm glad. But I bought the single a few weeks ago... I mean the chart position already happened. Not that 1 sale would change a chart position, but what if this week 100,000 people who already purchased I Will Wait decide to complete their album? In that occurrence, 100k would be subtracted from I Will Wait's total sales.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Sept 27, 2012 9:31:02 GMT -5
I just found out Green Day's total includes ticket/album bundles. Only digital albums were offered. My friend received 3 digital albums because he bought 3 concert tickets. Are those counted on Billboard? We'll find out next week. I seriously doubt Green Day's record label would give out free albums. The price of the album is probably bundled into the concert ticket price.
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Post by when the pawn... on Sept 27, 2012 10:15:18 GMT -5
Where does 600-625k stand among all debut weeks for independent albums?
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Post by Enigma. on Sept 27, 2012 11:45:49 GMT -5
By independent albums you mean record company?
Because they're on Island iirc
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Post by when the pawn... on Sept 27, 2012 12:49:40 GMT -5
By independent albums you mean record company? Because they're on Island iirc Yeah, independent labels. They're on Glassnote.
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Post by Enigma. on Sept 27, 2012 12:55:40 GMT -5
Hmm could be different to the UK then. There the charts say Island/Glassnote. It can vary..
Like it does matter but anyway.
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Post by Adam (UTR) on Sept 27, 2012 16:14:55 GMT -5
Mumford & Sons explode onto the chart next week with the second largest indie debut ever. Only The Eagles' 2007 Walmart exclusive, Long Road Out of Eden, scored a larger first week with 711k. Mumford will also hold the honor of this year's biggest debut, at least until Taylor Swift (10/22) and One Direction (11/13) hit the streets, both of which are expected to sell north of 600k. Mumford's total digital sales should exceed 400k, making it the second-largest first-week behind only Lady Gaga, whose 662k included 400k+ sales from Amazon MP3 at 99 cents. Here's how it looks headed into the weekend:
*Mumford & Sons Babel (Glassnote) 585-615k *Green Day (Reprise) 150-170k *No Doubt (Interscope) 120-125k P!nk (RCA) 95-105k *Lupe Fiasco (Atlantic) 85-90k G.O.O.D. Music Cruel Summer (G.O.O.D./Def Jam/IDJ) 65-70k *deadmau5 (Ultra) 55-60k Dave Matthews Band (RCA) 40-45k The Killers (Island/IDJ) 35-40k Little Big Town (Capitol Nashville/EMI) 30-35k Mumford & Sons Sigh No More (Glassnote) 27-30k Avett Brothers (American/Republic) 24-27k *As I Lay Dying (Metal Blade) 24-27k Adele (XL/Columbia) 21-24k Bob Dylan (Columbia) 21-24k
*Debuts
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Post by Verisimilitude on Sept 27, 2012 16:17:38 GMT -5
One Direction are expected to sell over 600K? WOAH!
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Post by Minor Scratch on Sept 27, 2012 16:23:06 GMT -5
And another 30K for Sigh No More. deadmau5 trending upwards as well.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Sept 27, 2012 16:33:14 GMT -5
One Direction are expected to sell over 600K? WOAH! 600k? We'll see. Makes me think of Katy Perry's 700k prediction!
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Post by josh on Sept 27, 2012 16:37:22 GMT -5
Except 1D actually has a fanbase. Katy doesn't/didn't.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Sept 27, 2012 16:37:40 GMT -5
One Direction's prediction is more believable as their album will be released in the Holiday season.
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Post by when the pawn... on Sept 27, 2012 16:37:58 GMT -5
One Direction are expected to sell over 600K? WOAH! 600k? We'll see. Makes me think of Katy Perry's 700k prediction! It's more warrented than Katy's but still a huge number. Not a lock by any means but surely possible.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Sept 27, 2012 17:00:05 GMT -5
Don't count your SoundScan chickens before they hatch.
I hope 1D can do it, but we keep being disappointed with debut sales weeks this year.
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