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Post by Zazie on Oct 28, 2012 13:03:47 GMT -5
I'd be floored if Whitburn used that new chart; his charts and research have always been based on the charts and nothing else. What's even more asinine is that the issue of BB in which this new chart was first published did NOT delete the positions of every song on the previous week's charts; in other words, the 'previous week's rankings should have been erased, which wasn't done. In an email responding to my question about this, a Whitburn staffer said they were planning to use the new Country Songs chart and not the airplay chart for their future compiling of points totals. However, they could always change their minds. It will be easy to see what they're doing once the book comes out, since Taylor Swift and Jason Aldean will have very different totals based on the new chart than expected from updates based on the Airplay chart.
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 28, 2012 13:19:28 GMT -5
i'm curious to see which of taylor's songs are gonna count as "country" when the chart comes out Me too. Can someone please post the Hot Country Songs chart from this past Thursday? Just for you: WE ARE NEVER EVER GETTING BACK TOGETHER Taylor Swift BLOWN AWAY Carrie Underwood CRUISE Florida Georgia Line WANTED Hunter Hayes HARD TO LOVE Lee Brice KISS TOMORROW GOODBYE Luke Bryan COWBOYS AND ANGELS Dustin Lynch THE ONE THAT GOT AWAY Jake Owen FASTEST GIRL IN TOWN Miranda Lambert LOVIN’ YOU IS FUN Easton Corbin COME WAKE ME UP Rascal Flatts TAKE A LITTLE RIDE Jason Aldean BEER MONEY Kip Moore CREEPIN’ Eric Church TIL MY LAST DAY Justin Moore RED Taylor Swift BEGIN AGAIN Taylor Swift TRUCK YEAH Tim McGraw SOUTHERN COMFORT ZONE Brad Paisley HOW COUNTRY FEELS Randy Houser DID IT FOR THE GIRL Greg Bates EVERY STORM (RUNS OUT OF RAIN) Gary Allan EL CERRITO PLACE Kenny Chesney WHY YA WANNA Jana Kramer GOODBYE IN HER EYES Zac Brown Band NIGHT TRAIN Jason Aldean IF I DIDN’T KNOW BETTER Sam Pallidino and Clare Bowen THE ONLY WAY I KNOW Jason Aldean With Luke Bryan & Eric Church I LIKE GIRLS THAT DRINK BEER Toby Keith CRYING ON A SUITCASE Casey James TIP IT ON BACK Dierks Bentley TRUE BELIEVERS Darius Rucker WHEN SHE SAYS BABY Jason Aldean BEER WITH JESUS Thomas Rhett MERRY GO ‘ROUND Kacey Musgraves MISSIN’ YOU CRAZY Jon Pardi TORNADO Little Big Town EX-OLD MAN Kristen Kelly UNDERMINE Charles Esten & Hayden Panettiere KICK IT IN THE STICKS Brantley Gilbert THIS NOTHIN’ TOWN Jason Aldean LET THERE BE COWGIRLS Chris Cagle SAY GOODNIGHT Eli Young Band BRING IT ON HOME Kix Brooks FEEL THAT AGAIN Jason Aldean RONAN Taylor Swift I DON’T DO LONELY WELL Jason Aldean SOMEBODY’S HEARTBREAK Hunter Hayes STARING AT THE SUN Jason Aldean GET YOUR SHINE ON Florida Georgia Line
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Oct 28, 2012 16:51:10 GMT -5
It's all semantics, honestly. Many of taylor's LYRICS are indeed, country. Just about the stuff right out of her life, is what most would agree is what MAKES a country song. I think it is important to be careful when generalizing, as you did when you discussed "what most would agree is what MAKES a country song." In this piece over at Roughstock, you said:It should be noted that these assertions were in reference to a song that everyone from Scott Borchetta to, well, practically everyone else (except of course, for the chart folks at Billboard) agrees is no way, shape or form a country song (even lyrically). But let's get back to the central part of your contention about country music, which is that it is defined by lyrics that "speak to real life, true to life situations." If you are suggesting that this is somehow the exclusive province of country music then I think that you have gotten on the same misguided exceptionalistic train that made Brad Paisley's "This Is Country Music" so problematic. Are you trying to tell me that Maxwell's "This Woman's Work" does not speak to "real life, true to life situations"? How about John Legend's "Ordinary People"? By your logic, Kanye West's "Hey Mama" is country. Ditto Katy Perry's "Wide Awake," and much of P!nk's catalog. I have a similar problem with the notion that country music is defined by storytelling alone, because if that's the case then we should all make way for R. Kelly's country classic "Trapped in the Closet." I simply don't think it is logical to exclude or de-emphasize sonic considerations from the genre classifications of songs. Sure, lyrics matter, and there are lyrical approaches that I consider to be signature to country -- but I don't think it makes sense to reduce that issue to "real life" or "storytelling." And while I don't think artists should feel limited by genre classifications, I believe those classifications still have meaning and value. To directly answer your point about Carrie's "Blown Away," I don't think there is much argument about whether the song is produced or arranged as a country song. It isn't. However, when I isolate the vocal on the verses, I hear a country singer by phrasing and style. Since I am personally a "voice first" kind of music listener, this carries especial significance to me, though the reverb and layered vocals on the pre-chorus/chorus take me back into the pop & rock space. But couple the vocal on the verses with the point of view of the song (the notion of an act of God wreaking revenge for sin does link to a lyrical tradition in country music), and I believe there are enough strong and identifiably country elements on the record to make a case for the song being classified as country, even if it is on the outermost of outskirts of the genre. That said, I can also understand why that particular record may not meet a person's standard for what qualifies as country music. This brings me back to a major problem with the new chart methodology. It puts genre classification in the hands of a few folks at Billboard, whose first week decision-making can hardly give anyone confidence in their ability to place songs properly. On that point... The only problem I find with the new-found methodology of the Hot Country Songs chart is the seemingly erroneous genre designations (I would not classify "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" as a country song). ... I mean, would this many individuals be upset if it were "Hard To Love" sitting pretty at #1 on the new chart (dominating with the extra crossover airplay)? I don't think so. I still think that counting crossover play doesn't quite serve Billboard's reasoning that radio should not control what counts as a hit within a genre, because the audience accumulated by songs achieving CHR play dwarfs the audience achievable at country radio. And if this were to result in country radio moving power rotations up to the 100+ spin level at the expense of the bottom of the chart in order to achieve comparable influence on the Hot Country Songs chart, I would see that as a major negative consequence of the methodology change. But I can agree with you that there would likely be less negative reaction if chart watchers felt that Billboard could be trusted to make sensible song classifications. It failed with "Never..." And frankly, I think Billboard is looking rather arbitrary now. I wondered a few weeks ago in posts here, here, and here why the songs on Mumford & Sons' current album weren't charting on the Hot Country Songs chart. As jhomes87 pointed out earlier this week, "I Will Wait" is actually starting to secure some country airplay. "I Will Wait" strikes me as closer to country music than "Never...," so I don't see why it doesn't qualify to chart on Hot Country Songs. This arbitrariness is diminishing the value of a methodology that, as you pointed out (and have pointed out before), does have the potential to better reflect the popularity of hit songs than an airplay-only chart. Billboard has also yet to satisfactorily address the remix issue. I think it is only logical that only sales and airplay for the country mix of a song be counted toward the Hot Country Songs chart, and Billboard's director of charts indicated that would have been Billboard's approach with Kelly Clarkson's "Mr. Know It All," without addressing why it wasn't for Taylor's "Never..." I would assume that simultaneous charting was the difference, but why should that make the difference? One last point, both a follow-up to an exchange WILL and I had about Taylor's song "Red" in the General Music News forum thread on the subject of Billboard's new charts and an extension of the remix discussion. I had argued that "Red" was likely to need a country remix to work on country radio, partly because of the electronic stuttering in the song. WILL pointed to the (non-electronic) stuttering on Carrie's #1 "Undo It" as a reason "Red" wouldn't need a country mix. I think a more apt comparison point is Faith Hill's "The Way You Love Me," which featured electronically smoothed "love me"s in its pop mix but not its (original) country mix. I also think the country version of "The Way You Love Me" had a guitar groove to give it more of a country cadence, something that "Red" lacks (I also find myself distracted by the artificial enhancement of the banjo at the beginning of the song). In any event, I wanted to point to this blog by Y108's weekend DJ Charlie Mitchell, who characterizes himself as a big supporter of Taylor's. This is what he has to say about "Red":I point this out not to revive the "country or not?" question as it pertains to "Red" but to address the separate issue of whether "Red" might need a remix to work on country radio. This is still simply one person's opinion, of course.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2012 21:19:16 GMT -5
^^^Never mind. I found it. NO NEW songs from Taylor made the Hot Country Songs chart this week. She has four tunes on the chart (WANEGBT, Red, Begin Again, and Ronan). Taylor will have several songs debut on Thursday (not all of them, though). It was the 11/3 chart that came out this past Thursday, and I think the tracking week actually ends on Tuesday, but that might only be for airplay. Taylor's album didn't come out until Monday, and I think the sales week goes from Monday through Sunday...so that's why there weren't any of her songs on the most recent chart. Notice how Jason Aldean just charted several songs, and his album came out a week before Taylor's. So we weren't expecting any new songs from Taylor to debut, at least not until this coming Thursday. And Zazie...wow, I'm very disappointed to hear about Joel Whitburn's decision. I just...can't understand it all. Like, I could probably even warm up to the idea of this chart, as long as it wasn't inheriting the records of the airplay-only chart, because that just messes everything up. Oh, and they also would need to eliminate crossover airplay effecting any genre's chart. Because WANEGBT isn't even being promoted to country radio right now...the label released it, it had its run, and now it's done...and yet it's still #1 based on pop airplay (and sales). And its current level of Pop airplay is HUGE. It's over 90 million on the Mediabase Pop chart, so obviously it'll be less on Billboard's Pop chart, but that's still WAY higher than country songs get.
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Post by drock89 on Oct 28, 2012 21:28:46 GMT -5
They should have, at least, waited until the new chart year to consolidate. Why at the end of a chart year?
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Post by kml567 on Oct 28, 2012 21:45:30 GMT -5
What's the Billboard record for most weeks at #1 for Country song? Is it Tim McGraw's LLYWD?
I wonder when Taylor will break that record with WANEGBT, and inevitably Big Machine will brag about Taylor breaking another Billboard Country recrod.
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Post by countrybamafan on Oct 28, 2012 21:50:44 GMT -5
And Zazie...wow, I'm very disappointed to hear about Joel Whitburn's decision. I just...can't understand it all. Like, I could probably even warm up to the idea of this chart, as long as it wasn't inheriting the records of the airplay-only chart, because that just messes everything up. Yep, I am not happy at all. One of my favorite charts to follow is now ruined. It was exciting watching all the current artists climb up, joining the ranks of country legends. If this keeps up, Taylor could potentially end up in the Top 50, Top 25, or Top 10 very soon (as long as she continues to remain relevant) on the Whitburn charts, beating out country legends who worked years to build up hits and go up the chart, from the strength of her pop airplay and digital sales corresponding to it. I will hope that Whitburn will change his mind and see the problems that this causes, but if not, that chart will be dead to me. Unfortunately, there aren't enough people who care about this chart for it to make a difference. Most will just say, "Who cares." Well, I do.
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Post by rbundy1987 on Oct 28, 2012 23:10:45 GMT -5
What's the Billboard record for most weeks at #1 for Country song? Is it Tim McGraw's LLYWD? I wonder when Taylor will break that record with WANEGBT, and inevitably Big Machine will brag about Taylor breaking another Billboard Country recrod. Answer: Leroy Van Dyke- "Walk On By" (1961) 37 weeks on The Country Charts, 19 record breaking weeks of those at #1!! Billboard Hot C&W Sides number-one single September 25, 1961 October 16 - November 13, 1961 December 4, 1961 - March 3, 1962
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2012 23:18:22 GMT -5
^Things were much different prior to 1990 though, when Nielsen came into the picture and airplay began being monitored electronically. I wonder what the longest #1 hit is since 1990? I think its the 8 weeks at #1 spent by Alan Jackson/Jimmy Buffett in 2003 with "It's Five O'Clock Somewhere". But there may be 1 or 2 other songs that also spent 8 weeks at #1. I don't think there were any songs that spent 9+ weeks at #1 since the inception of Nielsen BDS airplay, but I could be wrong about that.
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Post by rbundy1987 on Oct 28, 2012 23:24:12 GMT -5
^Things were much different prior to 1990 though, when Nielsen came into the picture and airplay began being monitored electronically. I wonder what the longest #1 hit is since 1990? I think its the 8 weeks at #1 spent by Alan Jackson/Jimmy Buffett in 2003 with "It's Five O'Clock Somewhere". But there may be 1 or 2 other songs that also spent 8 weeks at #1. I don't think there were any songs that spent 9+ weeks at #1 since the inception of Nielsen BDS airplay, but I could be wrong about that. Your right jhomes87, Alan Jackson/Jimmy Buffett with "It's Five O'Clock Somewhere" was #1 eight weeks back in 2003, while "Amazed" by Lonestar topped the Country charts in 1999 and stayed for eight weeks as well, but Tim McGraw's Monster 2004 hit "Live Like You Were Dying" was #1 for seven weeks. **No song has stayed past eight weeks at #1 on the Country charts since Nielsen BDS came into play.
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Post by matty1122 on Oct 28, 2012 23:29:28 GMT -5
I know Shania had a five week #1 with "Love Gets Me Every Time" in '97. What other women have had long stays at the top post 1990?
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Post by rbundy1987 on Oct 28, 2012 23:33:32 GMT -5
I know Shania had a five week #1 with "Love Gets Me Every Time" in '97. What other women have had long stays at the top post 1990? Not from the 90s but Carrie Underwood and Taylor Swift both have had six week chart toppers in their career. Carrie had a six week #1 hit in 2006 with "Jesus, Take The Wheel" and then Taylor had a six week #1 with "Our Song" in late 2007 and early '08.
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Post by matty1122 on Oct 28, 2012 23:45:19 GMT -5
That's right. Thanks, Jamie.
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 29, 2012 13:35:24 GMT -5
What's the Billboard record for most weeks at #1 for Country song? Is it Tim McGraw's LLYWD? I wonder when Taylor will break that record with WANEGBT, and inevitably Big Machine will brag about Taylor breaking another Billboard Country recrod. Country has had three 21 week #1s. They are: 1. I'll Hold You In My Heart Till I Can Hold You In My Arms-Eddy Arnold-1947 2. I'm Moving On-Hank Snow-1950-country music's #1 hit of all time 3. In The Jailhouse Now-Webb Pierce-1955 Hope this was helpful!
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 29, 2012 13:36:50 GMT -5
I know Shania had a five week #1 with "Love Gets Me Every Time" in '97. What other women have had long stays at the top post 1990? Not from the 90s but Carrie Underwood and Taylor Swift both have had six week chart toppers in their career. Carrie had a six week #1 hit in 2006 with "Jesus, Take The Wheel" and then Taylor had a six week #1 with "Our Song" in late 2007 and early '08. Faith Hill had a six week stay at #1 with Breathe, 1999-2000.
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 29, 2012 13:50:20 GMT -5
Here are two lists worth repeating. First, I ranked the top 25 hits from 1985-2010 when Billboard ranked the top 25 artists from that same time period: 1. Amazed-Lonestar-1999-8-37 2. It's Five O'Clock Somewhere-Alan Jackson and Jimmy Buffett-2003-8-27 3. The Good Stuff-Kenny Chesney-2002-7-29 4. Live Like You Were Dying-Tim McGraw-2004-7-21 5. There Goes My Life-Kenny Chesney-2003-7-19 6. Have You Forgotten-Darryl Worley-2003-7-19 7. Somebody Like You-Keith Urban-2002-6-40 8. How Forever Feels-Kenny Chesney-1999-6-34 9. 19 Somethin'-Mark Wills-2003-6-33 10. Ain't Nothing 'Bout You-Brooks & Dunn-2001-6-28 11. Breathe-Faith Hill-1999-6-27 12. Beer For My Horses-Toby Keith and Willie Nelson-2003-6-27 13. Just To See You Smile-Tim McGraw-1998-6-25 14. I'm Already There-Lonestar-2001-6-25 15. Jesus, Take The Wheel-Carrie Underwood-2006-6-23 16. As Good As I Once Was-Toby Keith-2005-6-22 17. Our Song-Taylor Swift-2007-6-21 18. It's Your Love-Tim McGraw and Faith Hill-1997-6-20 19. Better Life-Keith Urban-2005-6-20 20. How Do You Like Me Now-Toby Keith-2000-5-41 21. Good Morning Beautiful-Steve Holy-2002-5-36 22. Something Like That-Tim McGraw-1999-5-34 23. I Love You-Martina McBride-1999-5-32 24. I Hope You Dance-Lee Ann Womack-2000-5-29 25. My Next Thirty Years-Tim McGraw-2000-5-28
Second, I talked about long reigns at the top of the country chart earlier this year in one of my Country ChartBeats. Here they are: 1944: So Long Pal-Al Dexter-13-30 1945: You Two-Timed Me One Time Too Often-Tex Ritter-11-20-chart wise, his biggest hit 1946: Guitar Polka-Al Dexter-16-29-chart wise, his biggest hit 1947: I'll Hold You In My Heart Till I Can Hold You In My Arms-Eddy Arnold-21-46-chart wise, his biggest hit 1948: Bouquet Of Roses-Eddy Arnold-19-54 1949: Slipping Around-Margaret Whiting and Jimmy Wakely-17-28-chart wise, their biggest hit 1950: I'm Moving On-Hank Snow-21-44-chart wise, his biggest hit and the #1 country hit of all time 1951: Slow Poke-Pee Wee King-15-31-chart wise, his biggest hit 1952: The Wild Side Of Life-Hank Thompson-15-30-chart wise, his biggest hit 1953: Kaw-Liga-Hank Williams-13-19 1954: I Don't Hurt Anymore-Hank Snow-20-41 1955: In The Jailhouse Now-Webb Pierce-21-37-chart wise, his biggest hit 1956: Crazy Arms-Ray Price-20-45-chart wise, his biggest hit 1957: Gone-Ferlin Husky-10-27 1958: City Lights-Ray Price-13-34 1959: The Battle Of New Orleans-Johnny Horton-10-21-chart wise, his biggest hit 1960: Please Help Me, I'm Falling-Hank Locklin-14-36-chart wise, his biggest hit 1961: Walk On By-Leroy Van Dyke-19-37-chart wise, his biggest hit 1962: Don't Let Me Cross Over-Carl Butler and Pearl-11-24-chart wise, their biggest hit 1963: Love's Gonna Live Here-Buck Owens-16-30-chart wise, his biggest hit Hope this was helpful!
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Post by city5705boy on Oct 29, 2012 14:07:40 GMT -5
Regarding what was the longest running #1, someone said "Walk On By" at 19 weeks. I do believe Hank Snow's "I'm Movin On" spent 21 non-consecutive weeks at #1.
Regarding Whitburn's research. Whatever BB considers their official chart, which is the new top 50 sales/airplay chart which is what is published in the magazine will be what they officially use. With little noticifactions, on airplay peaks noted. Whether people like it or not, this is the OFFICIAL chart, for better or worse.
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 29, 2012 14:12:15 GMT -5
Regarding what was the longest running #1, someone said "Walk On By" at 19 weeks. I do believe Hank Snow's "I'm Movin On" spent 21 non-consecutive weeks at #1. Regarding Whitburn's research. Whatever BB considers their official chart, which is the new top 50 sales/airplay chart which is what is published in the magazine will be what they officially use. With little noticifactions, on airplay peaks noted. Whether people like it or not, this is the OFFICIAL chart, for better or worse. Even rbundy1987's answer broke up the reign for Walk On By: Answer: Leroy Van Dyke- "Walk On By" (1961) 37 weeks on The Country Charts, 19 record breaking weeks of those at #1!! Billboard Hot C&W Sides number-one single September 25, 1961 October 16 - November 13, 1961 December 4, 1961 - March 3, 1962
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Post by Zazie on Oct 29, 2012 14:54:05 GMT -5
Regarding what was the longest running #1, someone said "Walk On By" at 19 weeks. I do believe Hank Snow's "I'm Movin On" spent 21 non-consecutive weeks at #1. Regarding Whitburn's research. Whatever BB considers their official chart, which is the new top 50 sales/airplay chart which is what is published in the magazine will be what they officially use. With little noticifactions, on airplay peaks noted. Whether people like it or not, this is the OFFICIAL chart, for better or worse. Yes, this is their reasoning. And to some extent I sympathize -- this way they don't have to think about it. Whatever is the main BB chart, that's the Whitburn chart. So you can't criticize Whitburn, because they're just rolling with the flow. (After all, the new chart wasn't their idea in the first place.) In my fantasy life, though, Billboard abandons this new method and reinstates the Airplay chart as the true country chart, with plenty of room for other mixed sales-airplay charts that aren't the main chart. And since I still consider that a possibility, I wish Whitburn would wait a while before committing. And that means I would recommend a mid-Oct cutoff date for their new edition, giving them plenty of time to see what happens before they issue a new new edition 4 years or so from now. Whitburn is not going to go my way, though. I'm still updating the Whitburn list every week and I will see how it compares (Hi, Taylor and Jason) to the actual book when it arrives in March. And of course I'm looking forward to the JonSolo update at the end of the calendar year. I do realize that the Billboard methodology has changed quite a few times over the years, so that the Billboard chart with Live Like You Were Dying at #1 was very different from the BB chart with I'm In The Jailhouse Now at the top. And I accept that. I still haven't gotten to the point of accepting the new system, though.
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Post by Marv on Oct 30, 2012 17:49:41 GMT -5
Both BB & Mediabase have modified their chart methodology over the years; Mediabase switched from ranking songs solely by spins to ranking them by points in the summer of 1999, when 'Write This Down' replaced 'Please Remember Me' at #1.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2012 17:55:05 GMT -5
Both BB & Mediabase have modified their chart methodology over the years; Mediabase switched from ranking songs solely by spins to ranking them by points in the summer of 1999, when 'Write This Down' replaced 'Please Remember Me' at #1. Well, sure, but the Mediabase change still monitored only airplay. What Billboard has done now isn't even comparable to the change MB made back in '99.
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Post by rsmatto on Oct 30, 2012 22:57:23 GMT -5
Both BB & Mediabase have modified their chart methodology over the years; Mediabase switched from ranking songs solely by spins to ranking them by points in the summer of 1999, when 'Write This Down' replaced 'Please Remember Me' at #1. Well, sure, but the Mediabase change still monitored only airplay. What Billboard has done now isn't even comparable to the change MB made back in '99. And Mediabase altered the weighted system this past week even, which is why some songs shot up the charts... Comparing their changes with the new Billboard 'all genre impact' aspect is like comparing Apples to Apples.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2012 23:43:44 GMT -5
I'm saying it's not a similar change at all. Billboard's change made a song #1 on Hot Country Songs even though it's not in the top 60 on Airplay. And it's getting about twice as much audience on Pop radio as songs get when they're peaking on country radio, yet that counts on the country chart.
Mediabase changes their weights quite often. They are always updating everything based off new PPM and Arbitron numbers. I really didn't notice any songs "shooting" up the chart on Mediabase. Not sure what you mean there...nearly everyone jumped 4-5 spots because a handful of songs finally went recurrent, but there was hardly any shuffling of the order of the songs, lol.
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Post by rsmatto on Oct 31, 2012 0:05:42 GMT -5
I'm saying it's not a similar change at all. Billboard's change made a song #1 on Hot Country Songs even though it's not in the top 60 on Airplay. And it's getting about twice as much audience on Pop radio as songs get when they're peaking on country radio, yet that counts on the country chart. Mediabase changes their weights quite often. They are always updating everything based off new PPM and Arbitron numbers. I really didn't notice any songs "shooting" up the chart on Mediabase. Not sure what you mean there...nearly everyone jumped 4-5 spots because a handful of songs finally went recurrent, but there was hardly any shuffling of the order of the songs, lol. Right, I didn't mean that YOU did, :) I meant the poster you were replying to.
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Post by kml567 on Oct 31, 2012 19:23:05 GMT -5
Taylor's WANEGBT breaks another record this week......selling NEGATIVE 83,000 copies this week (due to iTunes Complete My Album). :o
Does Carrie stand a chance at #1 this week?
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Post by hank0629 on Nov 1, 2012 9:48:25 GMT -5
Taylor's WANEGBT breaks another record this week......selling NEGATIVE 83,000 copies this week (due to iTunes Complete My Album). :o Does Carrie stand a chance at #1 this week? I can't understand how it could be NEGATIVE 83,000 copies??? ??? ???
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Post by midnightprism on Nov 1, 2012 10:54:28 GMT -5
Taylor's WANEGBT breaks another record this week......selling NEGATIVE 83,000 copies this week (due to iTunes Complete My Album). :o Does Carrie stand a chance at #1 this week? I can't understand how it could be NEGATIVE 83,000 copies??? ??? ??? People used COMPLETE MY ALBUM on iTunes. Adds one to album sales but takes away a sale for every single you already owned.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Nov 1, 2012 14:21:12 GMT -5
I can't understand how it could be NEGATIVE 83,000 copies??? ??? ??? People used COMPLETE MY ALBUM on iTunes. Adds one to album sales but takes away a sale for every single you already owned. Holy crap, this chart is like a trainwreck. Well except, I believe its going to be much easier to look away.....
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Post by rsmatto on Nov 1, 2012 14:50:05 GMT -5
People used COMPLETE MY ALBUM on iTunes. Adds one to album sales but takes away a sale for every single you already owned. Holy crap, this chart is like a trainwreck. Well except, I believe its going to be much easier to look away..... Soundscan's really weird about that stuff. They actually haven't figured out how to offset those but they shouldn't have had -#s. Just reporting errors they'll eventually fix.
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Post by dajross6 on Nov 2, 2012 13:01:12 GMT -5
Taylor logs 10 songs in the Top 40 this week. If Whitburn uses this in his book I'll be extremely disappointed.
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