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Post by dawhite76 on Nov 29, 2012 11:52:42 GMT -5
Well, it's happened. Taylor's song spends an eighth week at No. 1 tying Connie Smith's "Once A Day" as the longest running No. 1 COUNTRY song by a female artist in Billboard chart history.
Two weeks ago, even Paul Grein criticized the new methodology in his Chart Watch column:
"Taylor Swift's "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" drops from #5 to #7. It holds at #1 on Hot Country Songs for the sixth week. This ties "Our Song" from 2007-2008 as Swift's longest-running #1 country hit to date. But I have to point out that the country and R&B charts now merely reflect how songs from those genres are faring on the Hot 100. So those charts are telling you something you already know if you follow the Hot 100. Those charts used to tell you how songs were faring in those specific formats. Is this progress? You decide."
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Post by onebuffalo on Nov 29, 2012 18:42:07 GMT -5
To paraphrase Lloyd Bentsen at the 1988 vice presidential debate: 'Taylor Swift, you're no Connie Smith'.
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Post by mikem on Dec 2, 2012 11:39:51 GMT -5
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Dec 2, 2012 12:49:26 GMT -5
I LOVE Farce The Music.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Dec 2, 2012 13:54:37 GMT -5
Anyone else notice I got my name on the last "twitter fail" from Farce the Music?
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Post by countrybamafan on Dec 2, 2012 15:08:30 GMT -5
Well, it's happened. Taylor's song spends an eighth week at No. 1 tying Connie Smith's "Once A Day" as the longest running No. 1 COUNTRY song by a female artist in Billboard chart history. I'm hoping Taylor can break the record, and more. I apologize to Ms. Connie Smith for wishing her long-lasting record to be no more, but I want Taylor's Never Ever Ever Ever Ever song to stay #1 as long as possible so that the new chart continues to be a FARCE. The longer her song stays at #1, the more laughable this new chart really is (Besides, no matter how long the song stays at #1, I still consider Connie's song as holding the record). Come on, Taylor. Don't ever, ever, ever, ever lose that top spot, girl!
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Dec 2, 2012 18:03:48 GMT -5
^ Maybe that'll wake up the people at Billboard. "Hey, WANEGBT has been #1 for 47 weeks. Maybe this new chart is kinda b0rked and shouldn't have been made."
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Post by dajross6 on Dec 2, 2012 20:08:14 GMT -5
Unfortunately Cruise will probably overtake her this week :(
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Post by city5705boy on Dec 4, 2012 11:02:00 GMT -5
I have to admit I was wrong, I thought this new chart would be more fun. It isn't. The only action it gets, is when a major artist puts a new album out, and then a bunch of temporary tracks chart for a week or two, clogging it, and delaying legit releases. I also am sick of things like Cassadee Pope songs making it, because of download only's after a tv performance.
I was all for sales being figured in, but only for legit country songs, and the airplay figured should only be for country stations on the panel, not for every station playing a song.
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Post by jebsib on Dec 5, 2012 13:57:21 GMT -5
Not sure if this had been mentioned in all the previous pages, but Taylor has only been #1 on Hot Country Songs for 8 weeks because that's when Billboard decided to start the chart changes.
Based on its relative placement to other country songs on the Hot 100 during the preceding weeks, it would now be in its 15th week (!) at #1 had they started this methodology earlier. Thus, we can safely expect mammoth stays at #1 for many songs in the next few years!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2012 14:05:52 GMT -5
Not sure if this had been mentioned in all the previous pages, but Taylor has only been #1 on Hot Country Songs for 8 weeks because that's when Billboard decided to start the chart changes. Based on its relative placement to other country songs on the Hot 100 during the preceding weeks, it would now be in its 15th week (!) at #1 had they started this methodology earlier. Thus, we can safely expect mammoth stays at #1 for many songs in the next few years! I was thinking this same thing the other day. However, it's only because of the pop airplay being included that Taylor remains #1 on this ludicrous chart. I agree with everything else you said except I don't think we'll see very many 8-15 week #1 hits, because very few country artists score massive pop hits. "Need You Now" and "If I Die Young" would've spent many, many weeks on top with this methodology. I certainly agree that those are big hits but they were still plenty big with the country airplay component alone.
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Post by rbundy1987 on Dec 6, 2012 10:20:50 GMT -5
Well it is sadly official, Taylor's "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" is #1 on the bogus Billboard Hot Country Songs Chart for a ninth straight week but I don't see it getting a tenth for next week since she is #15 on Hot 100 but Florida Georgia Line is right behind her at #16, so close >:(, but I look for Bilboard's 12-22-12 Chart for Hot Country Songs to have "Cruise" take over #1 on the new and bogus chart.
**NOTE: Notice who is back in the top 3 on this chart??? Hunter Hayes, why is he back, well he is back because his song "Wanted" has been climbing some on the pop charts and that is helping making his become an even longer hit since it is climbing the Hot 100 due to it's popularity on Hot 100 and therefore it is getting a second life back in the top 3. I HIGHLY DISLIKE THIS BOGUS CHART!! IT IS USELESS since every song is in order as is on the Billboard Hot 100. STUPID BILLBOARD!!!
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Dec 6, 2012 14:30:19 GMT -5
So Connie Smiths legitimate 8 week run at the top has officially been broken by an unapologetic pop song.
Ugh! Really hating Billboard these days......
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Post by city5705boy on Dec 6, 2012 15:12:14 GMT -5
Here's my question, since "I Will Wait" by Mumford & Sons is at #34 on the HOT 100, and IS on the country airplay chart, why isn't it at #3 on this country chart. (above Hunter Hayes, and behond Taylor and FGL)? It's got Country airplay (Taylor isn't even on the airplay chart).
Since Mumford & Sons, is being played on country radio, shouldn't that mean, that ALL of it's POP airplay, and sales be figured in on the main Country chart now?
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Dec 6, 2012 16:12:22 GMT -5
So Connie Smiths legitimate 8 week run at the top has officially been broken by an unapologetic pop song. Ugh! Really hating Billboard these days...... Didn't "Amazed" also spend 8 weeks at #1 on Billboard? No, I believe Connie held the longest weeks at #1 for a female with 8 weeks for Once A Day.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2012 17:30:00 GMT -5
In the SoundScan era (1990 'til now), 8 weeks at #1 is the most I believe. Taylor's new "record*" breaks the most #1 of weeks by a solo female. Connie Smith was the last female to score 8 weeks at #1 and that was back in the '60's. There have been stays of more than a dozen weeks at #1 way back then as well.
It's hard to compare those times to now. But then again, it's hard to compare September of this year to now, since the new methodology got assigned the Hot Country Songs name.
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 6, 2012 17:39:04 GMT -5
I certainly do not equate Taylor Swift's nine week stay at #1 to the last time we had a song stay at the top for that long-Almost Persuaded by David Houston in 1966.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2012 17:48:01 GMT -5
I certainly do not equate Taylor Swift's nine week stay at #1 to the last time we had a song stay at the top for that long-Almost Persuaded by David Houston in 1966. Oh, I'm right with you. I'm just saying that that's what Billboard is saying...Taylor now has the most weeks at #1 for a solo female in history. It's absolutely ridiculous. And you know what record will be broken next, right? Hunter Hayes' "Wanted" will set the all-time record for most weeks on the chart. He's back up to #3 in his 41st week now, but with this new chart, songs don't go recurrent until they fall below #25. And "Wanted" is still selling very well, will get a lot of recurrent airplay on country radio for quite some time yet, and is crossing over to pop radio. I don't know if it will get back up to #1 on this chart (it was #1 on the 9/29 issue of Hot Country Songs, just before the methodology change) but it should stay firmly in the top 5 for a long time, and will therefore likely break the 56 week stay that Lee Brice had with "Love Like Crazy". I won't count that record though, just like Taylor's "record" is meaningless to me.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Dec 6, 2012 17:48:20 GMT -5
Here's my question, since "I Will Wait" by Mumford & Sons is at #34 on the HOT 100, and IS on the country airplay chart, why isn't it at #3 on this country chart. (above Hunter Hayes, and behond Taylor and FGL)? It's got Country airplay (Taylor isn't even on the airplay chart). Since Mumford & Sons, is being played on country radio, shouldn't that mean, that ALL of it's POP airplay, and sales be figured in on the main Country chart now? Just because a song is being played on Country radio, doesn't mean it is a country song. Billboard has labeled every song with one specific genre that it can chart on, and Mumford & Sons isn't a country band, they are an alternative folk influenced band. So they will appear on the Hot Alternative Songs chart (if such a thing exists or will exist eventually) or possible Hot Rock songs. The reason that "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" is on the Hot Country Songs chart, is because for some reason Billboard decided it was primarily a country song, instead a pop song.
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Post by dajross6 on Dec 6, 2012 19:46:56 GMT -5
I think a song can be labeled more than one genre, but the determining is done in the first week. Taylor's song was probably considered both pop and country (hence the two versions), and airplay on both charts counted. Mumford & Sons (which I like more than the Taylor song and is more country-sounding) was considered alternative/pop/rock whatever and is therefore not country.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Dec 6, 2012 21:22:30 GMT -5
Please kill this new chart. Thank you.
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