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Post by joey2002 on Oct 12, 2012 16:17:08 GMT -5
Wait 'til release week for Taylor...she'll probably have almost the entire top 10. So, in 1 single week, she could score 10 top 10's This is exactly why the airplay chart will still carry significance, regardless of what BB says. Instead of simply caring about BB and MB, record labels will utilize 3 charts now. However, chart watchers like us will still only really care about the Billboard airplay chart.
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Post by slayZ on Oct 12, 2012 16:17:43 GMT -5
Taylor's Pop leaning singles will not be charting on country, per Billboard's editor. . You have seen this weeks "number one" , right? I sure have. You have heard her actual straight up Pop singles, a la I Knew You Were Trouble, right? At least they gave this a remix. That's what I meant.
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Post by joey2002 on Oct 12, 2012 16:23:12 GMT -5
So does this mean there's 3 different ways for record labels to call a song #1? Mediabase airplay chart Billboard airplay chart Billboard Hot Country hybrid chart Yes, but airplay is what the serious chart-watchers will keep following.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Oct 12, 2012 16:33:52 GMT -5
^Is Carrie not actively promoting BA to HAC right now? Does the HAC chart factor into this new chart? Hot AC airplay does factor into this new chart, but it's a smaller format than CHR/Pop, and it is also a follower format that is essentially CHR/Pop without the rap songs. A #30 Hot AC song is probably generating 1-2 million in audience, a #20 Hot AC song between 2-3 million in audience, a #10 Hot AC somewhere in the 15 million range, and a #1 Hot AC song somewhere north of 25 millon. By contrast the #30 CHR/Pop song is likely garnering around 10 million in audience, the #20 CHR/Pop song in the 17-20 million range in audience, the #10 CHR/Pop song somewhere between 35-40 million in audience (which is the range for a country top-3 song), and the #1 CHR/Pop song is north of 70 million in audience. Power rotations at CHR/Pop tend to be in the 100-120 spin range, and those are what drive the audience of its top songs so high, making it impossible for top country songs in power rotation to compete. Add to that the fact that country listeners, while accelerating their integration into the digital world, still don't buy downloads at the same rate as CHR/Pop listeners, and the degree to which CHR/Pop airplay (and by extension, Hot AC airplay) can now impact the Hot Country Songs chart is pretty high. As for whether Carrie is actively promoting to Hot AC now, I don't see the kind of trade ad promotion, phone interviews, radio station concert participation, and in-studio availability that is typical for artists promoting to the format. Like I've said before, an active promotional effort would require the involvement of RCA Records in New York. I understand that there are rumors of a partnership to promote "Blown Away," but I have yet to see that materialize into anything concrete. It may yet, I have no idea.
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Post by countrybamafan on Oct 12, 2012 16:50:41 GMT -5
I believe the exact opposite. A song that fans actually paid money for by the 100 thousands of downloads deserves to be a hit more than a song radio execs decided to play but fans didn't want to buy. Thats the point the Billboard editor was making by saying just radio alone doesn't work anymore. I understand this, but are you going to tell me that a song that doesn't connect with the "country audience" deserves to be #1 on the country chart? I think it's pretty obvious that Taylor's Getting Back Together song did not connect with the country audience. Country radio execs did not make the decision to just stop playing Taylor's lead-off single without any input. That would be dumb. It had to take some outcry from "country fans", and obviously, country fans hated it (maybe not all, but a lot). On the other hand, the song is perfectly crafted for pop radio, and pop audiences love it, evidenced by her strong POP airplay and digital sales. So, this pop airplay and strong digital sales that correspond to this pop airplay lands her a Country #1 hit? Really??! I'm fine with having country acts in the genre who have crossover appeal and experience some pop airplay with their singles. What I'm not okay with is having pop radio dictate our country charts. For those who say this puts power in the hands of the fans and not radio, this isn't entirely the case. This will put power in the hands of pop radio, and pop radio is a lot larger than country radio. As others have said, this is just going to lead to labels desperately chasing for pop success and pop artists working with country labels to release a "country version" of a pop song, which will cause country radio to sound exactly like pop radio, and eventually, there will be no difference between the two. I'm a fan of all kinds of different sounds of country music, but this rule will squeeze out more traditional acts like Chris Young, Easton Corbin, Jerrod Neimann, Alan Jackson, George Strait, Zac Brown Band, etc. or these acts will simply release "pop-country" like the rest. This would probably also prevent Carrie, one of my favorite artists, from ever releasing a traditional single to country radio again (I love her current single, as modern as it sounds, but one reason I am a fan is because of all the different styles she brings to the table, ranging from Blown Away to the traditional-leaning I Told You So). All these dealings can quickly get out of control, leading to the death of the identity of country music (Yes, I know some already feel it is dead, but to me, country music today still showcases actual country elements, but this could be eventually destroyed when pop radio and country radio sound the exact same and have the exact same artists topping the charts). So, this is my huge problem with the deal. Pop airplay and airplay from other genres should NOT count towards the country chart. I can understand the argument for incorporating digital sales, but here is my issue with that. It is a known fact that country artists sell less digital singles than pop artists, but they also typically sell more albums. So, if a person buys an album from an artist, but not the single, this could hurt the artist's current single on the country charts. I know some of you will point out that Taylor gets both strong digital sales and album sales. Well, she has the best of both words. She gets the strong digital sales from pop fans, strong album sales from both country and pop fans. It's just hard for me to get around the idea that digital sales should carry so much weight, especially whenever country artists who receive high digital sales are mostly receiving these huge sales from pop fans. This also hurts more traditional acts because most of these fans are older and are more likely to buy the album rather than the single. I do feel that within the next decade or so, album sales for all genres will become even more irrelevant, and country digital sales will start catching up with pop digital sales. At the moment, however, this isn't the case. Obviously, country fans are slower to adept to change than pop fans, but I don't think it's fair that artists with more crossover appeal have an even bigger advantage on the country charts because of their digital sales. I might would be okay with incorporating digital sales if they only counted 25% or so. In the next decade, digital sales could gradually go up to 50% of what counts on the chart. Finally, there is the argument that country radio now is flawed, and therefore, a change is needed. Yes, country radio is flawed, but this system is even more flawed. At least there are some new artists, like Dustin Lynch and Jana Kramer, who can catch a break on country radio, but with this new chart, they don't fare off as well. This will only lead to the same artists dominating the charts at all times (AKA Taylor Swift) and breaking in new artists will be even more difficult. And, yes, some of you may not like the rotating door at #1, but is this new system where Taylor Swift will likely hold the top spot for weeks due to pop airplay better? No. However, I do agree that a change in the way radio operates would help. I'm in complete agreement with lumpster who stated that country radio needs to become more regulated and end these ridiculous monopolies (such as the CC deal), allowing country fans more input. This would be the way to go, not creating a new system where country fans don't hold as much power as pop fans. This new "solution" only makes the current problem way worse. Imagine how much more success Shania Twain would have had with this new formula. I would argue that in her prime, she was just as big, if not bigger, than Taylor Swift. It's just ridiculous, and it does seem very suspicious that this change happens now. As I've said before, I have enjoyed some of Taylor's singles, but this move is not helping me like her even more (even if the blame is not on her or Scott's shoulders). Taylor's a ginormous star. She doesn't need this flawed system. I only hope that other artists and labels will protest very loudly. I read that Miranda recently tweeted "I love country music." That may or may not have been related to this move, but there needs to be some outcry within the country community (if they have the balls to).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2012 17:06:25 GMT -5
You have seen this weeks "number one" , right? At least they gave this a remix. That's what I meant. Giving it a remix doesn't mean anything, especially since the remix wouldn't even be in the Top 30 of the actual Country Songs chart, had the rules not been altered. Hell, the remix never even broke into the Top 10 with the original rules. The only reason WANEGBT is #1 is because of the CHR airplay it has been receiving.
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Post by layne on Oct 12, 2012 17:09:35 GMT -5
^Is Carrie not actively promoting BA to HAC right now? Does the HAC chart factor into this new chart? Hot AC airplay does factor into this new chart, but it's a smaller format than CHR/Pop, and it is also a follower format that is essentially CHR/Pop without the rap songs. A #30 Hot AC song is probably generating 1-2 million in audience, a #20 Hot AC song between 2-3 million in audience, a #10 Hot AC somewhere in the 15 million range, and a #1 Hot AC song somewhere north of 25 millon. By contrast the #30 CHR/Pop song is likely garnering around 10 million in audience, the #20 CHR/Pop song in the 17-20 million range in audience, the #10 CHR/Pop song somewhere between 35-40 million in audience (which is the range for a country top-3 song), and the #1 CHR/Pop song is north of 70 million in audience. Power rotations at CHR/Pop tend to be in the 100-120 spin range, and those are what drive the audience of its top songs so high, making it impossible for top country songs in power rotation to compete. Add to that the fact that country listeners, while accelerating their integration into the digital world, still don't buy downloads at the same rate as CHR/Pop listeners, and the degree to which CHR/Pop airplay (and by extension, Hot AC airplay) can now impact the Hot Country Songs chart is pretty high. As for whether Carrie is actively promoting to Hot AC now, I don't see the kind of trade ad promotion, phone interviews, radio station concert participation, and in-studio availability that is typical for artists promoting to the format. Like I've said before, an active promotional effort would require the involvement of RCA Records in New York. I understand that there are rumors of a partnership to promote "Blown Away," but I have yet to see that materialize into anything concrete. It may yet, I have no idea. Ok, I'm not familiar with the way the spins and audience totals on the other formats work. As far as Carrie's song being promoted, it did get an adds date and is currently on the HAC chart I'm not sure to what extent it's being promoted though. I guess my thought is if you are acquiring an adds date at another format, then this indicates to me you are actively trying to get it to have crossover appeal and success.
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Post by michellef on Oct 12, 2012 17:21:10 GMT -5
You have seen this weeks "number one" , right? I sure have. You have heard her actual straight up Pop singles, a la I Knew You Were Trouble, right? At least they gave this a remix. That's what I meant. lol
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Oct 12, 2012 18:41:16 GMT -5
Ok, I'm not familiar with the way the spins and audience totals on the other formats work. As far as Carrie's song being promoted, it did get an adds date and is currently on the HAC chart I'm not sure to what extent it's being promoted though. I guess my thought is if you are acquiring an adds date at another format, then this indicates to me you are actively trying to get it to have crossover appeal and success. An adds date certainly indicates interest in crossover play, but it doesn't necessarily indicate active promotion. Having listed examples of what I would consider active promotion, I see no indications that "Blown Away" is being actively promoted to Hot AC. Moreover, Carrie's "Blown Away" is not currently charting on Billboard's Adult Pop Songs chart (which tabulates Hot AC play), which has forty spots. The articles posted indicate otherwise. It talks about chart departments making phone calls to the industry to determines which songs qualify for a particular chart. BB does not do that by themselves. they make phone calls (to whom, nobody really knows), but they ultimately make the decision. "Every week, Billboard makes dozens of calls about the various charts a song should be eligible for. The point is: We make these calls. We've been doing it for 50+ years. We'll make a bunch more next week. We take it very seriously. We work at codifying the process, so that anyone who assumes the job of a genre chart manager can inherit guidelines for making these decisions." I may have missed something since this was lifted from its context, but the impression I got from that quote alone is not that Billboard's chart people make phone calls, but their own judgment calls about the various charts for which a song should be eligible. It made sense for Taylor's "Never..." to chart on Hot Country Songs under the old methodology because it was based strictly on radio airplay. It received airplay, therefore it belonged. But under a new methodology in which Billboard is seeking to loosen country programmers' control over the country chart by counting sales, streaming, and airplay on other formats and in which Billboard is going to be making judgment calls about where to chart songs while separating out things like country mixes for purposes of country charting (via the Pietroluongo tweets I quoted upthread), it seems clear to me that "Never..." doesn't belong atop the Hot Country Songs chart. Less than three million audience impressions this week come from its so-called country mix and no sales because the so-called country mix was never put on sale. Pietroluongo seems to be applying a different set of standards to "Never..." than he laid out for Kelly Clarkson's crossover attempt with "Mr. Know It All," and that seems problematic. Moreover, after a few courtesy weeks of testing, it seems clear that country programmers weren't going to advance "Never..." up the charts due to listener feedback. Didn't Scott Borchetta himself call "Never..." a pop song? I'm blanking on where I read this, but it was in the context of an article that suggested that the overall orientation of Taylor's new album would be pop or pop-rock. It actually may have been a Billboard article from a few weeks ago, I'm not sure -- will look it up later. I also think there is a lack of clarity surrounding "Red"'s ability to chart on Hot Country Songs. That's another straight-ahead pop-rock tune. I wouldn't necessarily want to disqualify a song that with no airplay presence on the format. But Billboard's chart people seem to be suggesting they make an attempt to place a song on the right charts based on various considerations including how it sounds, and on that score, Hot Country Songs doesn't strike me as the right place for "Red." I'm also starting to wonder why the likes of Mumford & Sons and even Phillip Phillips aren't charting at country, because their current singles strike me as much closer to what I would consider country than the current top-2 at Hot Country Songs.
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Post by countryfan15 on Oct 12, 2012 19:05:51 GMT -5
^ so what will happen with artists putting out new albums if they're songs never reach top ten or pick up in sales? Will we only get one Taylor swift album a year and that be it? There's a ton of new albums coming out next year by big artist that i fear may never see the light of day :(
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Post by michellef on Oct 12, 2012 19:11:06 GMT -5
Ok, I'm not familiar with the way the spins and audience totals on the other formats work. As far as Carrie's song being promoted, it did get an adds date and is currently on the HAC chart I'm not sure to what extent it's being promoted though. I guess my thought is if you are acquiring an adds date at another format, then this indicates to me you are actively trying to get it to have crossover appeal and success. An adds date certainly indicates interest in crossover play, but it doesn't necessarily indicate active promotion. Having listed examples of what I would consider active promotion, I see no indications that "Blown Away" is being actively promoted to Hot AC. Moreover, Carrie's "Blown Away" is not currently charting on Billboard's Adult Pop Songs chart (which tabulated Hot AC play), which has forty spots. they make phone calls (to whom, nobody really knows), but they ultimately make the decision. "Every week, Billboard makes dozens of calls about the various charts a song should be eligible for. The point is: We make these calls. We've been doing it for 50+ years. We'll make a bunch more next week. We take it very seriously. We work at codifying the process, so that anyone who assumes the job of a genre chart manager can inherit guidelines for making these decisions." yeah by "call" i originally thought they just meant the "decision," but then the whole "phone call" thing had me confused! haha...i DO think they meant that BB is the one that makes the decisions. and yes, scott borchetta DID call "Never" a pop song. here is the exact quote from BILLBOARD itself... "There was a really specific moment that she and Max Martin and Shellback created and it's very much a pop record. We've never hidden behind what it is." The rest of the interview is here, and i think it shows just how influential scott borchetta really is. www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/industry/backbeat/backbeat-big-machine-s-scott-borchetta-on-1007956322.story#vGBPOpikAlrZLJfo.99
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Post by countrygirl918 on Oct 12, 2012 19:38:00 GMT -5
You have seen this weeks "number one" , right? I sure have. You have heard her actual straight up Pop singles, a la I Knew You Were Trouble, right? At least they gave this a remix. That's what I meant. How is WANEGBT not a straight-up pop song? It needed a country remix to get played on country radio. The majority of its current airplay is happening on pop stations with the song's pop mix. 100% of its digital downloads are the pop mix, since they have not made the country remix available for download. So, essentially, a pop mix of the song is what is getting airplay and generating sales, and somehow that translates into a #1 country song even though the country remix sits in the high 30s on country radio, and has zero sales. Huh?
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Post by carrieidol1 on Oct 12, 2012 22:53:40 GMT -5
I would love to see Carrie and Brad use this nonsense as part of their monologue come CMA time. If there's a way to get 'our' point across without completely insulting Billboard, I hope they find it. I'm really upset with the minimal backlash this has caused so far throughout the music community. Perhaps it'll take some time before people truly see the detrimental affects of this, but I do hope that news of this does get attention by more than just crazy fans and chart watchers.
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Post by renee75 on Oct 12, 2012 23:02:12 GMT -5
Okay, I have got to stay out of this thread -- every time I come in here, I get "Never Ever" stuck in my head. And while I don't think it's all that bad, it makes a TERRIBLE earworm.
(I actually can't help but feel a little sorry for Taylor this week. First, half the viewers of "Nashville" think she's the prototype for Juliette, and now there are people who loathe her for this, when it's not even her fault.)
As for the minimal backlash, I expect it'll take some time for people to notice the change When they do, I hope there's major backlash.
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Post by singingsparrow on Oct 12, 2012 23:02:15 GMT -5
As monumentally despicable this update is, there is another brutal hit below the belt that country music also took just the week before that was overshadowed, I feel. On September 28th, Scott Brochetta was on american Public Media with Kai Ryssda, and when asked what country music is to him, he replied: * “Whatever fans of country music listen to and like. It’s younger. It’s youth.”* That has got to be one of the most intelligence-insulting things I've ever heard uttered by anyone in the music industry. It still angers me a week and a half later. So, in other words, you can essentially be "a fan of country music", and anything ELSE you like would ALSO be country. Like Rihanna. Or Insane Clown Posse. Or an audition for first chair in your daughter's middle school music class. ANYTHING! (both ;) and ). In the same breath, Borchetta literally spat on the face of every established veteran of this genre, from George Strait all the way back to Jimmie Rodgers, Bob Willis and beyond. So by his logic, upon a certain birthday in your life, you ought to get the boot from the country music establishment (unless, of course, you Botox it up and refuse to act your age entirely). * I already was harshly critical of his business intentions. But reading about him is one thing........and then outright hearing his contempt for the country music tradition is a whole other thing. What a jerk. Namaste, Noah Hibiscus Eaton
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Post by carrieidol1 on Oct 12, 2012 23:28:29 GMT -5
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Post by kml567 on Oct 12, 2012 23:33:56 GMT -5
I don't think there's much backlash from Nashville yet because most of the artists don't really understand the ramifications until Taylor hits 10+ weeks at #1 with WANEGBT.
Note that HUGE digital sellers like "Springsteen", "Drunk On You" and "Pontoon" would have all peaked at #2 had WANEGBT been released at the same time. Once people realize a string of popular country songs consistently getting blocked from #1 because of Taylor's crossover radio airplay, then the backlash will start.
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Post by michellef on Oct 12, 2012 23:36:25 GMT -5
yeah, i truly feel that scott borchetta has no respect for country music and is simply a "big machine" wanting to make the most money as possible, no matter what the costs
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Post by rsmatto on Oct 12, 2012 23:50:35 GMT -5
These new charts are like The Hot 100 chart. The AIRPLAY chart will still matter to labels, as much if not MORE than this new chart. Also, According to the original article that Billboard.biz posted, the chart records are all transferred to the Hot Country Airplay chart which means that Carrie WILL Still get #1 hits that matter, which is what I think many of you are talking about.
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Post by manchs on Oct 13, 2012 0:02:41 GMT -5
These new charts are like The Hot 100 chart. The AIRPLAY chart will still matter to labels, as much if not MORE than this new chart. Also, According to the original article that Billboard.biz posted, the chart records are all transferred to the Hot Country Airplay chart which means that Carrie WILL Still get #1 hits that matter, which is what I think many of you are talking about. Could you link me to that, please?
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Oct 13, 2012 2:26:00 GMT -5
These new charts are like The Hot 100 chart. The AIRPLAY chart will still matter to labels, as much if not MORE than this new chart. Also, According to the original article that Billboard.biz posted, the chart records are all transferred to the Hot Country Airplay chart which means that Carrie WILL Still get #1 hits that matter, which is what I think many of you are talking about. Could you link me to that, please? But HOT COUNTRY SONGS will still be the main chart in country section, which is not fair. If the COUNTRY AIRPLAY were the main chart, then i'd be fine with that
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Post by tim on Oct 13, 2012 2:32:59 GMT -5
I haven't read through each post on this topic yet, but as a longtime follower of Billboard I am very much disappointed by this move. I'm just not sure what to make of this yet. I have been trying to keep an open mind about this change...and I am a fan of everyone from Taylor to the King George Strait...but wow...she has two songs at the top...and three in the top 10? Let's not forget Spotify is now a factor...the Top Country Songs chart now means nothing to me. Nothing at all. Mediabase is now my turn to for the official airplay chart. As an avid board follower for years (though I don't post much), I am wondering what JonSolo's thoughts are?
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Oct 13, 2012 5:15:58 GMT -5
Keep sending in your complaints to the e-mails mentioned a while back. They have to listen eventually.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 13, 2012 7:52:13 GMT -5
It swung it too far the other way, though. I haven't really seen anyone argue that sales shouldn't factor in; people are upset non-genre airplay is counting toward genre charts. Yes songs that crossover to other formats will be bigger hits than songs that don't A song identified as "country" being played on a pop station (for example) is still a country song I do acknowledge though that the definition of "what is country" is being stretched a bit sometimes But why should that crossover play count toward the country chart, and why should it it play a part in dictating what country music listeners hear on the radio? And I still haven't seen anyone address the recurrent issue. When a song is getting crossover play, it will continually have higher airplay than current country songs that aren't getting crossover play. Will songs be allowed to linger around Country Songs for a year at the expense of more current country songs?
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 13, 2012 7:54:19 GMT -5
That doesn't mean what you seemed to be implying it means. When "BA" hits #1 on Country Airplay, Billboard will not be saying its her 13th #1 and will not be ranking her alongside Rascal Flatts or whomever it was that also has 13 #1s. Country Airplay is no longer the main country chart. But the old methodology is what will be used to determine past #1s when counting in new chart stats.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2012 8:10:44 GMT -5
Yes songs that crossover to other formats will be bigger hits than songs that don't A song identified as "country" being played on a pop station (for example) is still a country song I do acknowledge though that the definition of "what is country" is being stretched a bit sometimes But why should that crossover play count toward the country chart, and why should it it play a part in dictating what country music listeners hear on the radio? And I still haven't seen anyone address the recurrent issue. When a song is getting crossover play, it will continually have higher airplay than current country songs that aren't getting crossover play. Will songs be allowed to linger around Country Songs for a year at the expense of more current country songs? The obvious intention of the new chart is to measure the popularity of country songs, not country songs within the country-specific market
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Post by michellef on Oct 13, 2012 9:13:21 GMT -5
But why should that crossover play count toward the country chart, and why should it it play a part in dictating what country music listeners hear on the radio? And I still haven't seen anyone address the recurrent issue. When a song is getting crossover play, it will continually have higher airplay than current country songs that aren't getting crossover play. Will songs be allowed to linger around Country Songs for a year at the expense of more current country songs? The obvious intention of the new chart is to measure the popularity of country songs, not country songs within the country-specific market That's what the hot 100 is for! And "we are never" is not a COUNTRY song.
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Post by rsmatto on Oct 13, 2012 9:33:02 GMT -5
That doesn't mean what you seemed to be implying it means. When "BA" hits #1 on Country Airplay, Billboard will not be saying its her 13th #1 and will not be ranking her alongside Rascal Flatts or whomever it was that also has 13 #1s. Country Airplay is no longer the main country chart. But the old methodology is what will be used to determine past #1s when counting in new chart stats. it's one of their THREE Main Country Music charts. Airplay, Digital Country Songs, and Country Songs. All of these matter and will continue to matter to the industry. This new chart will just give them one more reason to have parties and such. Look at how they treat Aircheck/Mediabase #1 hits. Billboard said all of the records and data was being transferred over to the Country Airplay chart. In essence, this chart is a new chart. They just gave it the Country Songs chart NAME. Yes, they kept the old chart placement data (they should've just had it be all new data) with this new chart but who cares if all the old chart history goes to the Airplay Chart. Carrie WILL tie whomever has 13 #1 hits. That should be ALL that matters to you. She'll be able to say this went to #1 and the majority of her fans will know it as that. They won't care if it actually did or not. Most fans aren't as close a chart watcher as you or I or anyone else on this board is and for the sake of this board, it'll be the AIRPLAY chart that is prominent in the Country Update that gets sent out. Also, I do have to wonder if some people are WAY over thinking/overreacting to this new chart rules and giving Billboard too much power. Shoot, now you see why there are two radio airplay charts to begin with and why Radio always has had them (to say nothing of Indicator or Music Row secondary radio which is the majority of the country music audience's actual radio stations)
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