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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 15:22:58 GMT -5
The home of future youtube charts since it now counts toward the hot 100
this is the 3/2/2013 chart
This Week Last Week Two Weeks Ago Weeks Title, Artist Peak 1 0 New 1 Harlem Shake, Baauer 1 2 0 New 1 Stay, Rihanna Featuring Mikky Ekko 2 3 1 1 27 Gangnam Style, PSY 1 4 2 3 12 Thrift Shop, Macklemore & Ryan Lewis Featuring Wanz 2 5 3 2 17 Diamonds, Rihanna 1 6 4 4 12 Scream & Shout, will.i.am & Britney Spears 2 7 6 5 7 Kiss You, One Direction 2 8 8 6 18 Beauty And A Beat, Justin Bieber Featuring Nicki Minaj 1 9 7 8 10 I Knew You Were Trouble., Taylor Swift 2 10 5 – 2 Just Give Me A Reason, P!nk Featuring Nate Ruess 5 11 9 7 16 Locked Out Of Heaven, Bruno Mars 4 12 11 11 46 Call Me Maybe, Carly Rae Jepsen 1 13 12 – 2 When I Was Your Man, Bruno Mars 12 14 19 15 22 We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together, Taylor Swift 2 15 17 14 21 She Wolf (Falling To Pieces), David Guetta Featuring Sia 4 16 10 9 28 One More Night, Maroon 5 3 17 15 13 20 Live While We're Young, One Direction 1 18 14 12 49 What Makes You Beautiful, One Direction 2 19 13 – 8 Don't You Worry Child, Swedish House Mafia Featuring John Martin 13 20 22 17 15 Girl On Fire, Alicia Keys Featuring Nicki Minaj 8 21 16 10 24 As Long As You Love Me, Justin Bieber Featuring Big Sean 1 22 23 20 3 Limbo, Daddy Yankee 20 23 18 19 46 Boyfriend, Justin Bieber 1 24 0 New 1 Mirrors, Justin Timberlake 24 25 24 16 15 Little Things, One Direction 4
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 15:25:19 GMT -5
4 songs from One Direction and 3 songs from Bieber in the top 25
Probably a hint at the age group that will have the heaviest influence on future Hot 100's
Another note: Gangnam Style just finshed 20 weeks at #1
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 16:23:34 GMT -5
On the one hand it seems appropriate that the Youtube charts and therefore the Hot 100 will be dominated by teen acts like Bieber and One Direction. The teens and the young seem to be the most dedicated watchers and rewatchers of Youtube videos.
On the other hand a future Hot 100 that is full of Bieber, One Direction and other teeny bopper type acts fills me with a sort of dread.
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Post by Rumors on Feb 25, 2013 18:00:59 GMT -5
Simply...it's the beginning of the end. It will be interesting to see all these here today and gone tomorrow acts 20years from now. Will any of them be able to tour? That's the true test of the impact your music has on a generation.
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Post by imbondz on Feb 26, 2013 23:40:24 GMT -5
Can we call this the 30 second sample chart?
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Post by CookyMonzta on Feb 27, 2013 19:10:12 GMT -5
I take it that an enormous number of people are up in arms over the way in which Baauer got to number 1 on the Billboard Hot 100, yes?
Did I miss something, or is Billboard counting EVERY SINGLE VIDEO/AUDIO CLIP that has so much as even a considerable segment of Baauer's "Harlem Shake"?
In 1994, I sent a letter to Geoff Mayfield (who was in charge of the charts at the time), suggesting he include videoplay in the evaluation criteria, especially from networks like MTV and VH1 (when they were still video music stations). Now that video and audio play tallies from sites like YouTube are now being taken into consideration, I must say better late than never...
...With one exception, and this regards anything having to do with music in general, especially when it applies to charts like the Hot 100: 1. If it was not uploaded by the artist, it should not count toward the song's video/audio clip play tally.
2. If it was not uploaded by the songwriter or producer, it should not count.
3. If it was not uploaded by the record label, company or distributor, it should not count. The same goes for any clip uploaded by any party not authorized to do so by the record company, producer/writer or artist. I will assume VEVO is an authorized videoclip distributor.
4. If the clip cannot possibly adhere to any of the first 3 rules, then only the EARLIEST uploaded clip should count. I went looking for this song, and as far as I know, the earliest audio clip of Baauer's "Harlem Shake" was uploaded to YouTube on May 10, 2012, and it is still there, with at least 17 million views. I don't know how many views it is getting each week as of late.
5. No clip that features this song can count toward an artist's tally if it does not meet the above 4 criteria. That would eliminate just about every other audio clip with Baauer's song, and every single clip showing people trying to dance to this song. There are a bunch of 30-second snippets that people are howling about. These clips would be erased from the tally as well.
6. Any view that cannot be verified as having been activated from an IP that is verified as having a manual account (be it someone's personal account, a library or school account, or an account from a machine in a place like an Internet lounge) must be eliminated from the tally. I have no doubt that rogue elements within the major labels have been utilizing rogue programs to generate random views to artificially inflate the count for far longer than we may already suspect; quite probably for as long as YouTube has been on the Web! I would have to think, for this criteria, YouTube might have to employ GPS technology to determine where the account is. If they can trace its trail back to some record label's darkroom, that would obviously raise a red flag.
I must say that Billboard's new methodology should not be limited only to YouTube; it ought to apply to every U.S. video/audio emporium like it, many of which can be found at the site TRUVEO.com, one of which is DailyMotion.com
Bottom line: Any clip that does not meet the above criteria should not count. Regardless, I have a feeling that Baauer might still be number 1 just by counting last week's authorized views of all eligible clips, along with his authorized downloads at sites like iTunes and Beatport.
People are complaining that his lack of radio airplay should disqualify him from the top spot. If I'm not mistaken, back in 2005, a song relying solely on sales alone would require about 150,000 sales (give or take 25,000) to beat a song relying solely on airplay. But if I heard correctly, he had a very big jump in sales and clip views at YouTube, and quite probably, even without the unauthorized clips; enough to beat out Macklemore.
And besides, in my opinion, AM/FM radio is dead. Any station that has shrunk its playlist to the point where one or more artists can have their songs played at least 10 times a day, maybe to the point of once every hour on the hour, has lost credibility with me. 25 years ago, a playlist might be 200 wide; now it is barely 40. Internet radio, especially those stations that originate from the U.S., ought to be considered by Billboard. They seem to have more credibility now than AM/FM.
No music video? No big deal. Since when does every big hit require a music video? True, it may be, that video killed the radio star years ago; but these are the days when the Internet can kill a video star. If, for this reason alone (to say nothing of any others), I applaud Baauer for going outside the status quo to get where he is right now; and even if winds up a one-hit-wonder on the pop charts, I would not be surprised if he ends up getting requests from clubs around the world...
...That is, if he knows the club culture and knows his material.
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Post by CookyMonzta on Feb 27, 2013 19:25:38 GMT -5
I just took another look at Baauer's "Harlem Shake" at YouTube. The official track is 3:17 or 3:18. The oldest clip (an audio) was placed at YouTube on May 10 by someone named fungmungus, and now has 19.7 million views. This one would count toward Billboard's tally.
I don't know if Baauer himself placed a clip at YouTube; but if he did, it would count as well because he is the artist.
Now, I see an awful lot of clips featuring the song, most of them 30 or 31 seconds long, placed there by no one connected to the artist and/or his production team or label. Every last one of those views should be erased from his Billboard tally, including one placed there by someone named hiimrawn, an "Office Edition", with 23.3 million views.
Even without the countless millions of views that would be disqualified by my rules, I think he would still survive a #1 Hot 100 position, unless I missed a few things that would ultimately drop him down in the top 10 or 20.
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Post by Arabella21 on Feb 27, 2013 19:36:00 GMT -5
I thought labels could still potentially make money from a song getting Youtube plays, even if it's its not an official audio/video clip uploaded by the label itself? Correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway, in 2013, if a label doesn't want one of their songs being in a Youtube video, the lawyers can have it pulled down pretty quickly with a claim of copyright infringement. There are a select few artists who are pretty vigilant about their music not being uploaded to Youtube, even now. So I have to think Team Harlem Shake is more than fine with the song becoming a viral phenomenon and has benefited from it financially across multiple platforms. Youtube is a way to listen to music and has been for years (and labels are able to police it to a much larger extent than, say, file sharing/illegal downloading). With the Hot 100, Billboard is trying to measure the reach of a song, not how much money it makes for a label.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 27, 2013 21:49:06 GMT -5
Is there any data available that shows the number of views per week from US viewers? I'm curious to know what approximate numbers are that go to the Billboard chart. I really don't think the number of points from YouTube that go to the Hot 100 are too high. I think Harlem Shake's number of views is just so completely out of whack that it looks that way.
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Post by CookyMonzta on Feb 28, 2013 5:54:11 GMT -5
I thought labels could still potentially make money from a song getting Youtube plays, even if it's its not an official audio/video clip uploaded by the label itself? Correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway, in 2013, if a label doesn't want one of their songs being in a Youtube video, the lawyers can have it pulled down pretty quickly with a claim of copyright infringement. There are a select few artists who are pretty vigilant about their music not being uploaded to Youtube, even now. So I have to think Team Harlem Shake is more than fine with the song becoming a viral phenomenon and has benefited from it financially across multiple platforms. Youtube is a way to listen to music and has been for years (and labels are able to police it to a much larger extent than, say, file sharing/illegal downloading). With the Hot 100, Billboard is trying to measure the reach of a song, not how much money it makes for a label. What I have italicized, from your comments, is the reason why so many longtime readers of Billboard are screaming bloody murder. They cannot possibly believe that a 30-second viral snippet of the song, featured in someone else's video (many of which are parodies) can be included in Baauer's tally for total views or points on the charts... ...There are some, though, who don't even think this song deserves to be #1 for any reason other than the fact that it's mostly instrumental and there is no official video for it. Since when are vocals, a music video or even radio airplay mandatory for a spot high on the charts? A record that comes in this strong, this fast with most of its points coming from only 2 sources (video/audio clip views and sales), is capable of reaching #1. Whether it maintains the strength to stay there remains to be seen. And again, I still think that, even without the viral videos included in Baauer's tally, I think "Harlem Shake" would still stand a chance of being #1. It has been nearly 11 hours since I looked at the very first upload (the full song), courtesy of fungmungus, and it has gained 300,000 views in that time. My guess is that, on this clip alone, the song is gaining 600,000 views a day. Is it enough to deserve #1, when tallied with its legal downloads? I say it's a very strong possibility.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2013 7:44:46 GMT -5
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This Week Last Week Two Weeks Ago Weeks Title, Artist Peak 1 1 – 2 #1 2 wksHarlem Shake, Baauer 1 2 3 1 28 Gangnam Style, PSY 1 3 4 2 13 Thrift Shop, Macklemore & Ryan Lewis Featuring Wanz 2 4 6 4 13 Scream & Shout, will.i.am & Britney Spears 2 5 0 New 1 One Way Or Another (Teenage Kicks), One Direction 5 6 2 – 2 Stay, Rihanna Featuring Mikky Ekko 2 7 5 3 18 Diamonds, Rihanna 1 8 0 New 1 El Pollito Pio, Pulcino Pio 8 9 7 6 8 Kiss You, One Direction 2 10 9 7 11 I Knew You Were Trouble., Taylor Swift 2 11 0 Re-Entry 10 How To Love, Lil Wayne 3 12 0 New 1 Started From The Bottom, Drake 12 13 8 8 19 Beauty And A Beat, Justin Bieber Featuring Nicki Minaj 1 14 12 11 47 Call Me Maybe, Carly Rae Jepsen 1 15 11 9 17 Locked Out Of Heaven, Bruno Mars 4 16 10 5 3 Just Give Me A Reason, P!nk Featuring Nate Ruess 5 17 0 New 1 Suit & Tie, Justin Timberlake Featuring Jay Z 17 18 13 12 3 When I Was Your Man, Bruno Mars 12 19 18 14 50 What Makes You Beautiful, One Direction 2 20 20 22 16 Girl On Fire, Alicia Keys Featuring Nicki Minaj 8 21 0 New 1 Pasinho do Volante, MC Federado E Os Leleques 21 22 15 17 22 She Wolf (Falling To Pieces), David Guetta Featuring Sia 4 23 16 10 29 One More Night, Maroon 5 3 24 17 15 21 Live While We're Young, One Direction 1 25 14 19 23 We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together, Taylor Swift 2
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Post by Au$tin on Feb 28, 2013 21:27:06 GMT -5
Random Spanish songs and a re-entry from an old Lil Wayne song?
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Post by Verisimilitude on Feb 28, 2013 21:29:31 GMT -5
The song at #21 isn't in Spanish.
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Post by trackmaster13 on Feb 28, 2013 21:31:09 GMT -5
I think he's talking about #8.
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Post by groovetheory on Mar 4, 2013 4:50:49 GMT -5
Are they counting the unique viewers of the videos for Hot 100 or just how many times it has been played? I think they also should be counting US viewers only for it to impact Hot 100 since its a US based chart. Is that how they are doing it?
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Post by lawmak on Mar 4, 2013 7:19:15 GMT -5
Is this the US chart?
Because they're counting US only views..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2013 8:23:00 GMT -5
it is the top 25 youtube songs according to Billboard
So i assume this is the chart they use for the Hot 100
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Post by lawmak on Mar 4, 2013 9:30:59 GMT -5
Oh, I see..thanks!
I just found out the new chart on Billboard website..
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Post by Au$tin on Mar 4, 2013 18:01:27 GMT -5
Are they counting the unique viewers of the videos for Hot 100 or just how many times it has been played? I think they also should be counting US viewers only for it to impact Hot 100 since its a US based chart. Is that how they are doing it? It's only US viewers, but it's not unique views.
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Post by Quixotic Music Lover on Mar 5, 2013 12:31:24 GMT -5
Is there any way of founding out how many views a song has received for the week? I just see the total # of views.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2013 20:59:15 GMT -5
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1 1 1 3 Harlem Shake, Baauer 1 2 2 3 29 Gangnam Style, PSY 1 3 10 9 12 I Knew You Were Trouble., Taylor Swift 2 4 3 4 14 Thrift Shop, Macklemore & Ryan Lewis Featuring Wanz 2 5 4 6 14 Scream & Shout, will.i.am & Britney Spears 2 6 7 5 19 Diamonds, Rihanna 1 7 6 2 3 Stay, Rihanna Featuring Mikky Ekko 2 8 9 7 9 Kiss You, One Direction 2 9 13 8 20 Beauty And A Beat, Justin Bieber Featuring Nicki Minaj 1 10 18 13 4 When I Was Your Man, Bruno Mars 10 11 14 12 48 Call Me Maybe, Carly Rae Jepsen 1 12 15 11 18 Locked Out Of Heaven, Bruno Mars 4 13 0 New 1 Love Me, Lil Wayne Featuring Drake & Future 13 14 16 10 4 Just Give Me A Reason, P!nk Featuring Nate Ruess 5 15 0 Re-Entry 28 Baby, Justin Bieber Featuring Ludacris 10 16 19 18 51 What Makes You Beautiful, One Direction 2 17 20 20 17 Girl On Fire, Alicia Keys Featuring Nicki Minaj 8 18 0 New 1 Tonight I'm Getting Over You, Carly Rae Jepsen 18 19 23 16 30 One More Night, Maroon 5 3 20 24 17 22 Live While We're Young, One Direction 1 21 25 14 24 We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together, Taylor Swift 2 22 0 Re-Entry 6 Skyfall, Adele 15 23 0 Re-Entry 9 Don't You Worry Child, Swedish House Mafia Featuring John Martin 13 24 22 15 23 She Wolf (Falling To Pieces), David Guetta Featuring Sia 4 25 0 Re-Entry 4 Limbo, Daddy Yankee 20
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Post by damazz09 on Mar 7, 2013 21:49:08 GMT -5
wow carly rae jepsen is still so high! The re-entry rules are so wishy washy to me. Does it have a chance of re-entering the hot 100?
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Post by Au$tin on Mar 7, 2013 22:39:54 GMT -5
wow carly rae jepsen is still so high! The re-entry rules are so wishy washy to me. Does it have a chance of re-entering the hot 100? Yes. Any song that has enough points to enter the top 50 on the Hot 100 will now. However, "Call Me Maybe"'s sales and airplay aren't high enough to allow it to re-enter, and both fall every week. "Baby" re-entered at #15. This chart is absolutely awful. It doesn't even remotely resemble airplay, sales, or streaming charts at all.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2013 22:08:37 GMT -5
youtube This Week Last Week Two Weeks Ago Weeks Title, Artist Peak 1 1 1 4 #1 4 wksHarlem Shake, Baauer 1 2 2 2 30 Gangnam Style, PSY 1 3 4 3 15 Thrift Shop, Macklemore & Ryan Lewis Featuring Wanz 2 4 0 Re-Entry 2 El Pollito Pio, Pulcino Pio 4 5 3 10 13 I Knew You Were Trouble., Taylor Swift 2 6 0 Re-Entry 2 One Way Or Another (Teenage Kicks), One Direction 5 7 7 6 4 Stay, Rihanna Featuring Mikky Ekko 2 8 5 4 15 Scream & Shout, will.i.am & Britney Spears 2 9 6 7 20 Diamonds, Rihanna 1 10 10 18 5 When I Was Your Man, Bruno Mars 10 11 8 9 10 Kiss You, One Direction 2 12 14 16 5 Just Give Me A Reason, P!nk Featuring Nate Ruess 5 13 12 15 19 Locked Out Of Heaven, Bruno Mars 4 14 13 – 2 Love Me, Lil Wayne Featuring Drake & Future 13 15 11 14 49 Call Me Maybe, Carly Rae Jepsen 1 16 9 13 21 Beauty And A Beat, Justin Bieber Featuring Nicki Minaj 1 17 0 Re-Entry 2 Started From The Bottom, Drake 12 18 16 19 52 What Makes You Beautiful, One Direction 2 19 17 20 18 Girl On Fire, Alicia Keys Featuring Nicki Minaj 8 20 23 – 10 Don't You Worry Child, Swedish House Mafia Featuring John Martin 13 21 21 25 25 We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together, Taylor Swift 2 22 25 – 5 Limbo, Daddy Yankee 20 23 20 24 23 Live While We're Young, One Direction 1 24 0 New 1 People Are Awesome, Hadouken! 24 25 19 23 31 One More Night, 3
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2013 22:35:37 GMT -5
Just so people know. Pulcino Pio, #4 here, did not even bubble under
So you do need more than youtube views to chart
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2013 13:56:35 GMT -5
Youtube This Week Last Week Two Weeks Ago Weeks Title, Artist Peak 1 1 1 5 Harlem Shake, Baauer 1 2 2 2 31 Gangnam Style, PSY 1 3 3 4 16 Thrift Shop, Macklemore & Ryan Lewis Featuring Wanz 2 4 4 – 3 El Pollito Pio, Pulcino Pio 4 5 7 7 5 Stay, Rihanna Featuring Mikky Ekko 2 6 5 3 14 I Knew You Were Trouble., Taylor Swift 2 7 8 5 16 Scream & Shout, will.i.am & Britney Spears 2 8 10 10 6 When I Was Your Man, Bruno Mars 8 9 0 Re-Entry 4 Your Body, Christina Aguilera 8 10 9 6 21 Diamonds, Rihanna 1 11 6 – 3 One Way Or Another (Teenage Kicks), One Direction 5 12 12 14 6 Just Give Me A Reason, P!nk Featuring Nate Ruess 5 13 0 New 1 22, Taylor Swift 13 14 11 8 11 Kiss You, One Direction 2 15 0 New 1 Radioactive, Imagine Dragons 15 16 13 12 20 Locked Out Of Heaven, Bruno Mars 4 17 14 13 3 Love Me, Lil Wayne Featuring Drake & Future 13 18 0 Re-Entry 2 Suit & Tie, Justin Timberlake Featuring Jay Z 17 19 17 – 3 Started From The Bottom, Drake 12 20 18 16 53 What Makes You Beautiful, One Direction 2 21 15 11 50 Call Me Maybe, Carly Rae Jepsen 1 22 0 New 1 Ninjyari Ban Ban, KyaryPamyuPamyu 22 23 16 9 22 Beauty And A Beat, Justin Bieber Featuring Nicki Minaj 1 24 21 21 26 We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together, Taylor Swift 2 25 19 17 19 Girl On Fire, Alicia Keys Featuring Nicki Minaj 8
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Post by Au$tin on Mar 22, 2013 15:32:56 GMT -5
@ "Your Body."
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Post by unwritten on Mar 24, 2013 16:06:42 GMT -5
I don't think this chart is right. Just looking at FTM video which was released last week, has over 7 mil. of views and is one of the most popular video this week, but it's not on this chart. The FTM video who is charting on most viewed videos on youtube (#59) is a lyric video( and what is strange it's not the official lyric video posted on his channel). Meantime the official videos of DSTP, ROM, IL which right now dont't get the same number of views like the new video are in the top 96 videos. So let me have some doubts about this chart.
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Post by Caviar on Mar 25, 2013 20:42:15 GMT -5
Yes! "Your Body" stays legendary. Its gained over 7 million views since FTM video came out.
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Post by Au$tin on Mar 25, 2013 21:28:01 GMT -5
I don't think this chart is right. Just looking at FTM video which was released last week, has over 7 mil. of views and is one of the most popular video this week, but it's not on this chart. The FTM video who is charting on most viewed videos on youtube (#59) is a lyric video( and what is strange it's not the official lyric video posted on his channel). Meantime the official videos of DSTP, ROM, IL which right now dont't get the same number of views like the new video are in the top 96 videos. So let me have some doubts about this chart. This chart is based on US views only. The "Feel This Moment" video may have earned 7 million views on YouTube in its first week, but how many of them are from the US? Probably not a whole lot given the fact that Pitbull and Christina Aguilera are both big artists world wide and both of them get tons of views from outside the US. I'm also not understanding your logic in the second part. How does a video that is only #59 on overall YouTube supposed to be charting in a top 25 for US views only?
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