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Post by phil1996 on Dec 29, 2013 17:11:19 GMT -5
Anyone else think this dude sounds just like John Rich?
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Post by Markus Meyer on Dec 29, 2013 17:23:43 GMT -5
Anyone else think this dude sounds just like John Rich? Not at all IMO. Rich's voice is higher, whereas Tyler's is very gritty.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 29, 2014 1:03:44 GMT -5
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Post by Markus Meyer on Feb 9, 2014 19:54:02 GMT -5
This seems to be moving in slow motion. Maybe it won't be as big a hit as I thought.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Feb 9, 2014 23:17:14 GMT -5
I've noticed that it's slowing down by a lot, I still think this is going top 20 at minimum but I had thought this would fly up a lot faster. I'm glad it isn't cause while I like it better than his other singles it's still pretty weak and I don't really want to hear it on radio.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 9, 2014 23:24:24 GMT -5
Tyler Farr really strikes me as more of the one-hit wonder type. I didn't think he'd break through after his first two singles, but he got lucky with "Redneck Crazy" because it stood out. His voice is pretty terrible though imo and there's nothing interesting about him, so I don't see his success lasting.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Feb 9, 2014 23:51:00 GMT -5
Personally I thought this would be a hit than he wouldn't have another for a really long time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2014 0:04:58 GMT -5
I don't know if I see Tyler having lasting success either, but I think this will be a big hit yet. Definitely a potential top 10, if not a #1. That's chart-watching 101 with these newbie artists...lesson #1 is patience. Columbia Nashville is in this for the long haul. "Redneck Crazy" became the de facto lead single for the album, since it was the hit that got said album released, so this isn't likely to climb quite as fast as RC did.
And yet, this was #30 on Monday's Billboard chart, in just its 13th week. That's not bad at all for a new artist. By comparison, "Redneck Crazy", in its 13th week, was at #29. Another song that took only 13 weeks to hit #29? Frankie Ballard's "Helluva Life".
"Whiskey In My Water" didn't need nearly as many weeks to hit the top 30 as Sara Evans did. It's also on a quicker pace than "Whatever She's Got", "Up All Night", "See You Tonight", "Friday Night", "Carolina", and "Everything I Shouldn't Be Thinking About" went up (especially Scotty, Jon, and Parmalee). Tyler is just competing for spins with a lot of other songs right now, including both fast and slow-climbers. You just know that RCA is working the Sara Evans tune fervently, as is SDU with Josh Thompson's song. They've both got albums due out this spring. And then there are a ton of big new releases...Keith's, Hunter's, Miranda's, Tim's, FGL/Luke...plus guys like Brantley, Kip, and Billy that have arguably more momentum than Tyler does.
Getting a bit long-winded now...in a nutshell, I think this one's doing just fine. It's moving slowly now but it's likely to pick up the pace. It really has not been out for that long.
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 10, 2014 0:20:25 GMT -5
^ Congrats on your 10,000 posts jhomes87 :).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2014 0:23:08 GMT -5
^ Congrats on your 10,000 posts jhomes87 :). Heh. I purposefully stopped and lingered on 9,999 for a while this afternoon, just because And now, 10,002!
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Post by Markus Meyer on Feb 10, 2014 1:19:56 GMT -5
Only 13 weeks? Feels like it's been out forever.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2014 1:38:55 GMT -5
Only 13 weeks? Feels like it's been out forever. Nope! 13 weeks.
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Post by bjer127 on Apr 8, 2014 16:09:39 GMT -5
I too predicted he would be one hit wonder. If this hits top 10, they should release Cowgirl as next single. Nothing else on album fits radio. But I have a feeling they'll release "dirty" instead
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Post by sabre14 on May 29, 2014 17:49:26 GMT -5
This is quietly becoming one of the year's biggest singles thus far. This week marks it's 30th on the singles charts for "Whiskey In My Water" and is going strong with a bullet of 476 on Mediabase today. This should move up to #7 from #9 on both MB and Billboard on Sunday. It had some fairly shaky moments up the chart but like many newer artists singles, it proved to just be the same 'ole, same 'ole in terms of chart runs. It's add date was last November and it's looking like at least a top 5 peak in June. The only thing that's stopping this from being #1 would be the red hot Chris Young and Blake Shelton on the trail. Either way, "Whiskey In My Water" has had a very successful long lasting chart run that I'm sure Columbia is happy about.
I wasn't a fan of Tyler's album outside of this song or "Redneck Crazy" (which I didn't mind except for the corny lyrics like throwing empty cans at her shadow), but if they choose to stop here and comeback with a lead single from another project, I would fully support that decision. Though I suspect they'll try one more at radio.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2014 17:54:57 GMT -5
I wasn't a fan of Tyler's album outside of this song or "Redneck Crazy" (which I didn't mind except for the corny lyrics like throwing empty cans at her shadow), but if they choose to stop here and comeback with a lead single from another project, I would fully support that decision. Though I suspect they'll try one more at radio. I almost wonder if Columbia might decide to re-release "Hot Mess" now that Tyler has some momentum. Most casual listeners wouldn't know that the song was ever a single since it didn't go top 40. The main reason I've been wondering that is because "Hot Mess" has been getting several spins as shown in some of the recent top 200 Mediabase updates, almost as if a couple stations might be 'testing' it again. Probably a long shot that it would happen, but maybe possible.
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Post by sabre14 on May 29, 2014 18:05:22 GMT -5
I wasn't a fan of Tyler's album outside of this song or "Redneck Crazy" (which I didn't mind except for the corny lyrics like throwing empty cans at her shadow), but if they choose to stop here and comeback with a lead single from another project, I would fully support that decision. Though I suspect they'll try one more at radio. I almost wonder if Columbia might decide to re-release "Hot Mess" now that Tyler has some momentum. Most casual listeners wouldn't know that the song was ever a single since it didn't go top 40. The main reason I've been wondering that is because "Hot Mess" has been getting several spins as shown in some of the recent top 200 Mediabase updates, almost as if a couple stations might be 'testing' it again. Probably a long shot that it would happen, but maybe possible. I was actually thinking of mentioning that but I really hope they don't. I do think that sometimes labels should do that more often (a la "Voices") but in Tyler's case I just didn't like his first two singles. "Hot Mess" was OK I guess. It fell in the generic category for me, and other than the guitar riff didn't leave any impression on me. But as long as it isn't a re-release of "Hello Goodbye". Tyler's vocals on that song were like nails on a chalkboard. If they had to release another single, I think a re-release of "Hot Mess" actually isn't as big of a long shot as some might think. It only got to #49 on Billboard and #45 on Mediabase, so about 95% of listeners probably don't even know that was a single. "Ain't Even Drinkin'" or "Dirty" would probably be the other considerations.
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Post by dm2081 on Jun 20, 2014 22:46:28 GMT -5
The question is how much life does this song have left? It's really racking up the weeks now, and with "Beachin'" and "My Eyes" in front of it, holding out for the #1 spot might take some real effort. It could follow the same path that "Beat of the Music" and "Lettin' The Night Roll" have taken, where they both moved at a glacier pace but held on for a #1 peak. I like this song, although I'll admit it's far from original or groundbreaking. I think people are going to like Tyler's vocals or dislike them, with very little in between. I would love to see "Hello Goodbye" as the next single, but I know it would never make it Farr up the charts. "Wish I Had A Boat" could do well though in my opinion.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Jun 20, 2014 22:47:28 GMT -5
This song is so bland and boring. Even after riding the success from his last single, I am very surprised this song has done so well.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 20, 2014 23:00:42 GMT -5
Right now I see "Whiskey In My Water" getting at least to the top 3 if not top 2 and making some kind of push for #1. It's gains have really been steady and consistent since the top 15 (a solid bullet of 382 on MB today) and Columbia seems fully invested to get this as high as possible despite it being out since Thanksgiving or so . Justin and Brett will of course be out of Tyler's way in time and I see Blake reaching the top and having a good shot at moving out of the top spot in time as well as he should get it next week after Justin. Tyler's biggest enemies are Jake and Chris. Right now I would bet Chris to pass Tyler on MB and Billboard before the end is near and depending on how long Tyler's song can last will Factor on his #1 odds. He would have to wait a full month most likely to reach the top on at least MB and that will remain to be seen, but judging by what I've seen lately with the charts this year (*cough* Friday Night *cough*), nothing surprises me. ;)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2014 23:18:48 GMT -5
I would love to see "Hello Goodbye" as the next single, but I know it would never make it Farr up the charts. "Wish I Had A Boat" could do well though in my opinion. Not sure if you knew this but "Hello Goodbye" was Tyler's 2nd single. "Hot Mess" was 1st, "Redneck Crazy" came 3rd and now of course "Whiskey In My Water". But perhaps you just meant that they should re-release "Hello Goodybe" (which I can see as a possibility as it didn't make top 40) since now Tyler actually has some momentum. I liked this song well enough when it was first released but now I change the station when it comes on. This and "Hot Mess" were really the only songs on his album that I found to be decent, but WIMW hasn't held up very well for me at all. I also don't understand why radio is so eager to play Tyler's material, given that his album has only sold about 60-70k copies. Kacey Musgraves has sold more than 425k with much less radio support, but yet radio doesn't want to cater to "that" audience. I know it's not all about album and single sales but it just doesn't seem that Tyler's low album sales and mediocre-to-average single sales should warrant this much airplay for a song that, while radio-friendly, doesn't seem to be moving the needle all that much. I'm personally rooting for this one to stall out short of #1 (being blocked by a combo of Jake and Chris, and perhaps Joe could factor in as well), but given the revolving door at the top, I expect that Tyler will get his turn at #1 (it's also worth mentioning that Jake, Chris, and Tyler are all Sony artists; Tyler is on Columbia whereas Jake and Chris are both on RCA, but I'm sure that Sony would like to get them all to the top spot. Therefore, even though I wish those other guys could block Tyler, it doesn't seem all that likely that they will). "Whiskey In My Water" needed 31 weeks to get to #7 and "Redneck Crazy" was #7 in its 29th week, so it's not as if WIMW has spent that much more time on the chart. And RC of course got up to #3 on BB and snuck in a week at #1 on Mediabase.
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Post by dm2081 on Jun 20, 2014 23:44:32 GMT -5
I would love to see "Hello Goodbye" as the next single, but I know it would never make it Farr up the charts. "Wish I Had A Boat" could do well though in my opinion. Not sure if you knew this but "Hello Goodbye" was Tyler's 2nd single. "Hot Mess" was 1st, "Redneck Crazy" came 3rd and now of course "Whiskey In My Water". But perhaps you just meant that they should re-release "Hello Goodybe" (which I can see as a possibility as it didn't make top 40) since now Tyler actually has some momentum. I liked this song well enough when it was first released but now I change the station when it comes on. This and "Hot Mess" were really the only songs on his album that I found to be decent, but WIMW hasn't held up very well for me at all. I also don't understand why radio is so eager to play Tyler's material, given that his album has only sold about 60-70k copies. Kacey Musgraves has sold more than 425k with much less radio support, but yet radio doesn't want to cater to "that" audience. I know it's not all about album and single sales but it just doesn't seem that Tyler's low album sales and mediocre-to-average single sales should warrant this much airplay for a song that, while radio-friendly, doesn't seem to be moving the needle all that much. I'm personally rooting for this one to stall out short of #1 (being blocked by a combo of Jake and Chris, and perhaps Joe could factor in as well), but given the revolving door at the top, I expect that Tyler will get his turn at #1 (it's also worth mentioning that Jake, Chris, and Tyler are all Sony artists; Tyler is on Columbia whereas Jake and Chris are both on RCA, but I'm sure that Sony would like to get them all to the top spot. Therefore, even though I wish those other guys could block Tyler, it doesn't seem all that likely that they will). "Whiskey In My Water" needed 31 weeks to get to #7 and "Redneck Crazy" was #7 in its 29th week, so it's not as if WIMW has spent that much more time on the chart. And RC of course got up to #3 on BB and snuck in a week at #1 on Mediabase. Yeah, I knew "Hello Goodbye" was already released, I just got lazy and didn't feel like typing re-release. I learned my lesson! lol. I just feel like that was a very strong song, although quite depressing, and not for an everyday listen. I totally agree with you though about Kacey, why radio won't play her flies over my mind. "Follow My Arrow" had really strong sales, and I know it would have been huge if radio had just played it. But that's a story for another thread. I think radio has gotten behind Tyler because he has such a unique voice. I understand that many don't like it, but some, including me, are fond of it. I think Tyler has a very unique voice that helps distance him from the pack.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 21, 2014 0:00:32 GMT -5
Not sure if you knew this but "Hello Goodbye" was Tyler's 2nd single. "Hot Mess" was 1st, "Redneck Crazy" came 3rd and now of course "Whiskey In My Water". But perhaps you just meant that they should re-release "Hello Goodybe" (which I can see as a possibility as it didn't make top 40) since now Tyler actually has some momentum. I liked this song well enough when it was first released but now I change the station when it comes on. This and "Hot Mess" were really the only songs on his album that I found to be decent, but WIMW hasn't held up very well for me at all. I also don't understand why radio is so eager to play Tyler's material, given that his album has only sold about 60-70k copies. Kacey Musgraves has sold more than 425k with much less radio support, but yet radio doesn't want to cater to "that" audience. I know it's not all about album and single sales but it just doesn't seem that Tyler's low album sales and mediocre-to-average single sales should warrant this much airplay for a song that, while radio-friendly, doesn't seem to be moving the needle all that much. I'm personally rooting for this one to stall out short of #1 (being blocked by a combo of Jake and Chris, and perhaps Joe could factor in as well), but given the revolving door at the top, I expect that Tyler will get his turn at #1 (it's also worth mentioning that Jake, Chris, and Tyler are all Sony artists; Tyler is on Columbia whereas Jake and Chris are both on RCA, but I'm sure that Sony would like to get them all to the top spot. Therefore, even though I wish those other guys could block Tyler, it doesn't seem all that likely that they will). "Whiskey In My Water" needed 31 weeks to get to #7 and "Redneck Crazy" was #7 in its 29th week, so it's not as if WIMW has spent that much more time on the chart. And RC of course got up to #3 on BB and snuck in a week at #1 on Mediabase. Yeah, I knew "Hello Goodbye" was already released, I just got lazy and didn't feel like typing re-release. I learned my lesson! lol. I just feel like that was a very strong song, although quite depressing, and not for an everyday listen. I totally agree with you though about Kacey, why radio won't play her flies over my mind. "Follow My Arrow" had really strong sales, and I know it would have been huge if radio had just played it. But that's a story for another thread. I think radio has gotten behind Tyler because he has such a unique voice. I understand that many don't like it, but some, including me, are fond of it. I think Tyler has a very unique voice that helps distance him from the pack. It still though took a different kind of song like "Redneck Crazy" to get him his first hit. "Hot Mess" was a song that simply got lost in the shuffle two springs ago and didn't stand out enough, and "Hello Goodbye" always seemed like a song that would have been better suited for a different vocalist. I'm not saying Tyler doesn't have vocal talent and I agree with you that is raspy voice sets him apart, but he has his limitations and "Hello Goodbye" was difficult for me to listen to. "Whiskey In My Water" has certainly been helped by the success of "Redneck Crazy" but it's my personal favorite of his thus far, even though I'm extremely tired of it by now. I wouldn't rule out a re-release of "Hot Mess" as it didn't last all that long while it was out and only made it to the mid 40's on MB. "Dirty" and "Ain't Even Drinkin'" would also be top candidates for the third single, though I myself would move on to his next record and not sacrifice his momentum as I feel he has already released the two best songs on this underwhelming album. But I suspect they will with no word on a new album in the works.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Jun 21, 2014 0:05:57 GMT -5
Unlike most of you, I'm not sick of this at all. I still love it and crank the radio up ever time it comes on.
For next single, I'd bet on "Ain't Even Drinking" being released next.
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Post by layne on Jun 21, 2014 9:40:10 GMT -5
With all the discussion on this board about new artists not being country etc. I find that Tyler Farr and his songs, this one and Redneck Crazy sound and feel more country than any thing else on radio right now. I wasn't a fan of Hot Mess or Hello Goodbye but for all the talk of artists not having country sounding material I would think those folks would actually like and get behind Tyler Farr.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 21, 2014 13:20:59 GMT -5
With all the discussion on this board about new artists not being country etc. I find that Tyler Farr and his songs, this one and Redneck Crazy sound and feel more country than any thing else on radio right now. I wasn't a fan of Hot Mess or Hello Goodbye but for all the talk of artists not having country sounding material I would think those folks would actually like and get behind Tyler Farr. I personally have nothing against Tyler. His voice is good enough and unique but it's reasonable to say he's a lesser vocalist than most on country radio. As for his songs - I agree that they are much more country than most but I think it's been more about song quality (at least for me). "Hot Mess" was generic and didn't stand out in 2012. "Hello Goodbye" was a fairly good song but totally not suited for his voice IMO. "Redneck Crazy" and "Whiskey In My Water" are by far my favorite songs on his debut record which in terms of quality I found to be rather underwhelming which I brought up earlier. "Redneck Crazy" I always thought should have been the first single for him due to it standing out, and other than the corny "Throw empty beer cans at both of your shadows" line, I kind of enjoyed. I think that it's a combination of his vocals plus the strength of his debut album (which of course is subjective and some people really enjoy I'm sure) is why more people aren't behind Tyler, but I certainly don't see anybody who's rooting against him either.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2014 18:27:57 GMT -5
With all the discussion on this board about new artists not being country etc. I find that Tyler Farr and his songs, this one and Redneck Crazy sound and feel more country than any thing else on radio right now. I wasn't a fan of Hot Mess or Hello Goodbye but for all the talk of artists not having country sounding material I would think those folks would actually like and get behind Tyler Farr. Sounding country isn't enough for me (and I don't even think Farr sounds very country). If the lyrics are as terrible as the ones in "Redneck Crazy", then it doesn't matter who the vocalist is. "Whiskey In My Water" isn't terrible but I'd call it average at best. The song doesn't really say anything. It's pretty generic radio fodder.
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Post by layne on Jun 21, 2014 18:42:45 GMT -5
With all the discussion on this board about new artists not being country etc. I find that Tyler Farr and his songs, this one and Redneck Crazy sound and feel more country than any thing else on radio right now. I wasn't a fan of Hot Mess or Hello Goodbye but for all the talk of artists not having country sounding material I would think those folks would actually like and get behind Tyler Farr. Sounding country isn't enough for me (and I don't even think Farr sounds very country). If the lyrics are as terrible as the ones in "Redneck Crazy", then it doesn't matter who the vocalist is. "Whiskey In My Water" isn't terrible but I'd call it average at best. The song doesn't really say anything. It's pretty generic radio fodder. He sounds almost too country for me and the production on the last two singles are clearly country sounding compared to everything else in the top 40. As far as the lyrics, I feel just the opposite, I thought Redneck Crazy was one of the best written story songs outside of "I drive your Truck" from a male in the last year.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2014 19:02:50 GMT -5
Well, we disagree there. "Redneck Crazy" gave me the creeps. Shining headlights into someone's house and throwing empty beer cans at them is just...creepy. First verse, he name-drops Hank and later sings "'bout to get my pissed off on". Second verse "no he can't amount to much by the look of that little truck" is equal parts juvenile, poorly-written, and hilarious (and not in a good way).
The guy in the song just sounds like a big whiner. I get it, break-ups suck, but "Redneck Crazy" is not how you deal with them. It sounds like stalking to me, and a good way to get arrested.
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Post by jferstler on Jun 21, 2014 23:40:11 GMT -5
Kind of surprised many hear don't favor Tyler's voice. This is one of my favorite songs right now and I crank it up every time it comes on. Redneck Crazy served its purpose, it exposed him to a broad audience, even though it wasn't the most well thought out lyrics or best picture painting story teller it did what needs to be done to break through on today's country radio , and that is appealing to the younger crowd. Most people my age when hearing RC would laugh and say hell yeah. Now let's be serious, how many people are actually going to aim their head lights into their ex lovers bedroom window and sit on their hood and drink??? It's just the thought and humor of it and doesn't need to be taken so seriously. I think Tyler reminds be of a young Toby Keith mixed with Brantly Gilbert, and I really think he is going to be around for a while.
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Post by ryanroberts on Jun 22, 2014 0:17:42 GMT -5
^ Exactly my thoughts as well in the case of Redneck Crazy. I get that people react in different ways, but i'm amazed at how many took the song so seriously.
As far as future singles go I wouldn't mind hearing Cowgirl and or Dirty/Wish I Had A Boat round out the album at radio.
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