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Post by dajross6 on Apr 1, 2014 16:19:03 GMT -5
Unfortunately, you aren't the target audience for these types of songs. In an ideal world the audience would be super small to the point where we wouldn't even have a thread for this song because it couldn't see the light of day, but these songs are unbelievably popular right now and will probably stay that way until the next fad comes through the genre. It isn't going to change anytime soon I'm afraid.
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Post by avalyn on Apr 2, 2014 17:35:38 GMT -5
Is Chase Rice officially an artist with Sony Nashville/Columbia or is this just a one time promotion partnership. This comes from Chase himself in a letter of appreciation that he wrote for the fans and supporters.: I take it from everything I've read it's an official deal/partnership. That all future music will be through their joint venture. Columbia added an ad for Chase in this weeks Country Aircheck and at the bottom it welcomed him to the Columbia Nashville Family.
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 2, 2014 19:32:12 GMT -5
Took some quotes from his statement about his new deal with Columbia that I found interesting.
I understand that it's exciting to finally have a deal with a major Nashville based record label, but does he or anybody for that matter, have to use the phrase "One of the most powerful in the world". Almost like he's saying, "Now my music will be as huge as FGL. Wait and see". Seriously. Is it truly necessary to use the phrase powerful in the world? I kind of found it creepy myself.
For some reason unannounced to me, Chase decided to all capitalize numerous words in his statement. Whenever I see all capitalized words in someone's transcript, it usually means that they want those specific words to be heard loud and clear among the others. That it acts like a yelling mechanism in text form. In other words, this reads to me at least like his style of music that many have criticized including myself, is what works and is what the people want. Obviously with the state of country music, that is true unfortunately. The sales and chart success have proven that much. But this comes off like he knows he is ruffling feathers, and he wants everyone to know that his style of music is what sells. Again, it might be true, but comes off to me as pompous.
Gotta love it when a middling new country artists trying to break through, is quoting a legendary hall of fame athlete.
He decided for the umpteenth time to all capitalize a word during his statement. It would have been OK to me to do that once, in terms of referring to his music working and there is no need to change it. But he just said that earlier. Doing this again comes off to me as a stick it to anybody who disagrees with his music including his polarizing first single. I also don't know what he means by "is from what I know, a first of it's kind". From what I know there are many cases of newer artist singing with large major labels, after working with smaller or independent labels. Maybe he might saying that Columbia will allow him to make this music he's been making without any regulations or restrictions. I think for a label like Columbia, they wouldn't have even bothered signing him if they didn't think his music would be commercially successful. Columbia see's a opportunity with him that could see yet another bro artist have success within this current climate of country radio and the genre itself. I personally don't feel this is at all a first of it's kind, and that if Chase does not see success with his singles, Columbia would cut their losses if necessary without hesitation.
Chase Rice has always come off to me as not so much a bad person, but a bit ignorant. When Sam Hunt or even FGL signed their major label deals, I did not see any kind of statement with all caps words uses multiple times throughout a prolonged statement. Again, I know he's been working very hard for this break. He has been a independently working artist for a while, and has had many life experiences already with college football, Nascar, and even a stint on a well known reality show. But this letter on his website saw some unnecessary usage of words that did not endure me to him in the slightest.
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Post by matty005 on Apr 2, 2014 20:10:31 GMT -5
Took some quotes from his statement about his new deal with Columbia that I found interesting. I understand that it's exciting to finally have a deal with a major Nashville based record label, but does he or anybody for that matter, have to use the phrase "One of the most powerful in the world". Almost like he's saying, "Now my music will be as huge as FGL. Wait and see". Seriously. Is it truly necessary to use the phrase powerful in the world? I kind of found it creepy myself. For some reason unannounced to me, Chase decided to all capitalize numerous words in his statement. Whenever I see all capitalized words in someone's transcript, it usually means that they want those specific words to be heard loud and clear among the others. That it acts like a yelling mechanism in text form. In other words, this reads to me at least like his style of music that many have criticized including myself, is what works and is what the people want. Obviously with the state of country music, that is true unfortunately. The sales and chart success have proven that much. But this comes off like he knows he is ruffling feathers, and he wants everyone to know that his style of music is what sells. Again, it might be true, but comes off to me as pompous. Gotta love it when a middling new country artists trying to break through, is quoting a legendary hall of fame athlete.He decided for the umpteenth time to all capitalize a word during his statement. It would have been OK to me to do that once, in terms of referring to his music working and there is no need to change it. But he just said that earlier. Doing this again comes off to me as a stick it to anybody who disagrees with his music including his polarizing first single. I also don't know what he means by "is from what I know, a first of it's kind". From what I know there are many cases of newer artist singing with large major labels, after working with smaller or independent labels. Maybe he might saying that Columbia will allow him to make this music he's been making without any regulations or restrictions. I think for a label like Columbia, they wouldn't have even bothered signing him if they didn't think his music would be commercially successful. Columbia see's a opportunity with him that could see yet another bro artist have success within this current climate of country radio and the genre itself. I personally don't feel this is at all a first of it's kind, and that if Chase does not see success with his singles, Columbia would cut their losses if necessary without hesitation. Chase Rice has always come off to me as not so much a bad person, but a bit ignorant. When Sam Hunt or even FGL signed their major label deals, I did not see any kind of statement with all caps words uses multiple times throughout a prolonged statement. Again, I know he's been working very hard for this break. He has been a independently working artist for a while, and has had many life experiences already with college football, Nascar, and even a stint on a well known reality show. But this letter on his website saw some unnecessary usage of words that did not endure me to him in the slightest. Not to be nit picky, but Bo Jackson is not a hall of fame athlete. Probably one of the best athletes of our generation and would be in the HOF if he hadn't got hurt, but he is currently not in either in Cooperstown or Canton. I agree with a lot what you're saying (per usual) though, but think sometimes people are too hard on this guy.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Apr 2, 2014 20:26:22 GMT -5
^ I dunno, it's pretty hard to be forgiving of someone who's so vitriolic to the "haters". You saw my screenshots of his tweets from February did you not? That kind of behavior's just inexcusable, and it left a bad taste in my mouth.
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Post by matty005 on Apr 2, 2014 20:35:47 GMT -5
^ I dunno, it's pretty hard to be forgiving of someone who's so vitriolic to the "haters". You saw my screenshots of his tweets from February did you not? That kind of behavior's just inexcusable, and it left a bad taste in my mouth. Well, I agree and disagree. I think if people shared his opinion, they wouldn't look at is as bad. Take for example Sheryl Crow's recent tweet about radio ONLY playing "bro" music and not playing any women and then talking about how that music will make her vomit if she hears one more song. I actually agree with her stance, but someone could argue that type of behavior is pretty similar. I will say, Chase's was probably a little worse, but not all that much when you get right down to it.
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Post by kw9461 on Apr 2, 2014 21:21:47 GMT -5
Is Chase Rice officially an artist with Sony Nashville/Columbia or is this just a one time promotion partnership. This comes from Chase himself in a letter of appreciation that he wrote for the fans and supporters.: Sweet jesus he's conceited. I know many artists have big egos, but this guy is just delusional. No wonder he can be proud of such an offensive piece of garbage like this song. All hail the second coming, Chase Rice
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 2, 2014 22:36:03 GMT -5
And with these three tweets, any defense I can muster for Chase or this song goes right out the window. This kind of behavior is completely uncalled for, and does not endear me to him in the slightest. I'm all for everybody sharing an opinion about anything. Chase is more than welcome to share his view about what he feels is acceptable music and where country music's genre is going. But using such vile language such as "Sh**ty", or "Suck This", when responding to the "haters" is an act that's so uncalled for and irresponsible it almost defies belief. The reason I'm so hard on him is stupid egotistical acts like this. And that letter on his website that I pointed out earlier even makes me more certain that he is egocentric.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Apr 2, 2014 23:28:11 GMT -5
To his credit, I haven't seen him tweet anything like this since those three.
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Post by blueguitar on Apr 3, 2014 0:01:13 GMT -5
To his credit, I haven't seen him tweet anything like this since those three. True colors. Just sayin'. They were shinin thru. Can't change that by zipping your lip. Cats outta the bag (douche bag) peeps.
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Post by matty005 on Apr 3, 2014 6:17:55 GMT -5
To his credit, I haven't seen him tweet anything like this since those three. True colors. Just sayin'. They were shinin thru. Can't change that by zipping your lip. Cats outta the bag (douche bag) peeps. I don't know. I think people can do things like this and still not be awful people. I mean heck, you just called someone a douche bag (that's pretty vile when you get down to what an actual "douche bag" is) and I don't think any less of you at all. And what if he has changed? I know he probably isn't, but what if he learned from those tweets that's not the best way to deal with situations? Are you just going to dislike him for eternity because those are his "true colors" for three tweets he did when he was 27 years old?
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Post by rjz on Apr 3, 2014 6:48:18 GMT -5
True colors. Just sayin'. They were shinin thru. Can't change that by zipping your lip. Cats outta the bag (douche bag) peeps. I don't know. I think people can do things like this and still not be awful people. I mean heck, you just called someone a douche bag (that's pretty vile when you get down to what an actual "douche bag" is) and I don't think any less of you at all. And what if he has changed? I know he probably isn't, but what if he learned from those tweets that's not the best way to deal with situations? Are you just going to dislike him for eternity because those are his "true colors" for three tweets he did when he was 27 years old? Q Artists are just like the rest of us, good days and bad. And some are great people from outward appearances and some are jerks-I mean really, if you are willing to say those kinds of things in public what aren't you saying in private that you are honestly thinking or doing? He could still be a good person in some respects I think, just a hot headed jerk with low impulse control and obviously egocentric. But the thing is .....for me, I don't usually care. Even if I declare someone a jerk, I can still like their music and buy it. The two issues are separate (for some like Chase I don't like public persona or music I've heard so far but again, sometimes those things don't influence each other. I think Brad Paisley seems like a great guy, but his music bores me-separate issue). Although it is possible Mr. Chase is trying to create waves for buzz (kind of like Blake did with his more outrageous Twitter comments), but the nature of them sort of rings true to me, and generally when someone is 27-that is well into adulthood and personality is pretty formed by that point. But if he puts out a fantastic song it probably wouldn't keep me from buying it. Unless he abuses animals or people......deal breaker for me ;)
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Post by blueguitar on Apr 3, 2014 10:45:02 GMT -5
I agree, no one is perfect and I was pretty harsh, but this guy gets under my skin. It's probably the combination of how offensive I find his song and his attitude (telling people to "suck it" really rubs me wrong). I am a mother of two boys so this behavior makes me cringe. I think I would die if either of my kids put that kind of message out there (song and nasty tweets).
Hopefully his team can feed him a piece of humble pie and he can settle down. Unlike rjz, if someone is a jerk I cannot get past it and enjoy their music. There are so many other great artists out there who need support.
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Post by rsmatto on Apr 3, 2014 15:33:52 GMT -5
Took some quotes from his statement about his new deal with Columbia that I found interesting. I understand that it's exciting to finally have a deal with a major Nashville based record label, but does he or anybody for that matter, have to use the phrase "One of the most powerful in the world". Almost like he's saying, "Now my music will be as huge as FGL. Wait and see". Seriously. Is it truly necessary to use the phrase powerful in the world? I kind of found it creepy myself. For some reason unannounced to me, Chase decided to all capitalize numerous words in his statement. Whenever I see all capitalized words in someone's transcript, it usually means that they want those specific words to be heard loud and clear among the others. That it acts like a yelling mechanism in text form. In other words, this reads to me at least like his style of music that many have criticized including myself, is what works and is what the people want. Obviously with the state of country music, that is true unfortunately. The sales and chart success have proven that much. But this comes off like he knows he is ruffling feathers, and he wants everyone to know that his style of music is what sells. Again, it might be true, but comes off to me as pompous. Gotta love it when a middling new country artists trying to break through, is quoting a legendary hall of fame athlete. He decided for the umpteenth time to all capitalize a word during his statement. It would have been OK to me to do that once, in terms of referring to his music working and there is no need to change it. But he just said that earlier. Doing this again comes off to me as a stick it to anybody who disagrees with his music including his polarizing first single. I also don't know what he means by "is from what I know, a first of it's kind". From what I know there are many cases of newer artist singing with large major labels, after working with smaller or independent labels. Maybe he might saying that Columbia will allow him to make this music he's been making without any regulations or restrictions. I think for a label like Columbia, they wouldn't have even bothered signing him if they didn't think his music would be commercially successful. Columbia see's a opportunity with him that could see yet another bro artist have success within this current climate of country radio and the genre itself. I personally don't feel this is at all a first of it's kind, and that if Chase does not see success with his singles, Columbia would cut their losses if necessary without hesitation. Chase Rice has always come off to me as not so much a bad person, but a bit ignorant. When Sam Hunt or even FGL signed their major label deals, I did not see any kind of statement with all caps words uses multiple times throughout a prolonged statement. Again, I know he's been working very hard for this break. He has been a independently working artist for a while, and has had many life experiences already with college football, Nascar, and even a stint on a well known reality show. But this letter on his website saw some unnecessary usage of words that did not endure me to him in the slightest. He's excited and happy. He worked for a long time on getting his music off the ground (longer than FGL or Sam actually), so maybe his 'ego' went into overdrive the way many would. He was raw and real here, even if it still rubs some folks the wrong way. Chase's deal isn't the first of it's kind, Jerrod Niemann signed a similar deal with Sony Nashville with his first album and still has massive creative control. But Chase didn't even have management til about a year ago, he really was in a DYI mentality and probably that's what he was trying to get across or keep going.
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 3, 2014 16:51:36 GMT -5
I understand he's excited about being with a major label finally. Heck I would be too. But taking into account those tweets he sent out with a letter on his website I get the feeling this is the kind of person he is. Of course everybody has their flaws as human beings including myself. But that letter on his website was a very long thought out statement. If he's being emotional or knee jerk with raw emotion than that's twice in a short period of time (obviously the tweets bother me much more than the letter). But if this is real to who he is than it's a complete turn off to me. I'm not even taking into account his debut single. I've heard the fact that I have to cut him some slack for being a 27 year old and that anybody can make mistakes at that age. I don't feel it's too much to ask for a 27 year old to act more composed when writing a letter on his website or more importantly responding to people on twitter with language that isn't suitable for a recording to say in the public eye. To me at least his actions are immature, childish, and egotistical.
But I'm just one person, so my opinion isn't that important really, and that I understand. But perhaps in the future he can begin to gradually make me forget about those tweets and capitalizing multiple words in a egocentric statement. I usually like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but Chase is the first country artist I've come across where that's becoming extremely difficult the more time goes on.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Apr 6, 2014 16:06:40 GMT -5
The radio edit is "little fine SELF". Okay, that's one less complaint I have about this song now.
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Post by joey2002 on Apr 10, 2014 0:56:29 GMT -5
As it is used in the song, "fine ass" was totally degrading and objectifying. It's my #1 complaint about the song. I am not kidding that if anybody told me to get my "fine ass" somewhere I'd punch them in the face. There is absolutely nothing nice about that phrase and the connotation in which it is used, and the fact that people seem to be okay with it and the current vernacular in country music ("get me some of THAT," "hey GIRL," etc) is disgusting and much of the problem that I have with country music and its current audience. /rant I couldn't agree more. My local station is still playing the unedited version, and it just blows my mind that listeners can actually support such a crude and disrespectful song. Wasn't country radio supposed to be "family friendly"? What kind of message is this promoting to kids who hear it? I just don't understand what happened to the wholesome country music we knew and loved.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Apr 10, 2014 15:43:43 GMT -5
I find it so funny that he has made all of these tweets that portray him in a negative light when on Survivor he was known as "the nice guy" lol.
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Post by rsmatto on Apr 10, 2014 16:25:44 GMT -5
I find it so funny that he has made all of these tweets that portray him in a negative light when on Survivor he was known as "the nice guy" lol. Social media changes perception and/or gives people the ability to make fools out of themselves quite easily.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2014 16:37:28 GMT -5
69 cents on iTunes right now ;) I hate to say it, but that's a great marketing move by Columbia Nashville. They've been advertising his strong Sales Per Spin ratio (I believe it's been #9 for the last couple of weeks), and discounting it online for a week or couple of weeks is a smart move that will spur sales even higher and could wind up helping this one sustain higher weekly sales. It had crawled into the top 40 but now it's bullet is over 100 on Mediabase...it still isn't exactly blazing up the chart but there's definitely been a noticeable uptick since Columbia picked up promotion for this. Still, I am hoping it will miss the top 20, as I expect it to remain quite polarizing, and it may also be hurt by the amount of time it spent just crawling toward the top 40.
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Post by countryqueen on Apr 10, 2014 17:23:35 GMT -5
As it is used in the song, "fine ass" was totally degrading and objectifying. It's my #1 complaint about the song. I am not kidding that if anybody told me to get my "fine ass" somewhere I'd punch them in the face. There is absolutely nothing nice about that phrase and the connotation in which it is used, and the fact that people seem to be okay with it and the current vernacular in country music ("get me some of THAT," "hey GIRL," etc) is disgusting and much of the problem that I have with country music and its current audience. /rant I couldn't agree more. My local station is still playing the unedited version, and it just blows my mind that listeners can actually support such a crude and disrespectful song. Wasn't country radio supposed to be "family friendly"? What kind of message is this promoting to kids who hear it? I just don't understand what happened to the wholesome country music we knew and loved. Personally thats one of the main reasons I dislike "bro" country. I think the infusion of hip-hop beats/rapping leads to these types of objectiving messages. I feel like a lot of people argue that they like that "only like the beat" when it comes to hip hop and the lyrics don't matter, but one of country's strong suits is that it focuses on the lyrics and storylines. Is the only way to show Nashville that we don't support this movement is to call radio stations and complain?!
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Post by Markus Meyer on Apr 15, 2014 21:39:24 GMT -5
Finally got some time to re-listen to this. Honestly, I don't get the hate. I actually like this and it's pretty catchy. The lyrics are fine and I'm not offended by anything. The only thing I think is stupid is the awful intro. It's just like the robotic voice in Gloriana's "Best Night Ever". I could do without. It's the "get your little fine ass on the step" line that offends most of us.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Apr 15, 2014 21:47:46 GMT -5
^ It doesn't really offend me per se, just the tone of his voice. In fact, I'm generally against censorship, but I think "little fine self" actually sounds better here.
The song is still a barely-listenable piece of work without a memorable melody, atrocious production (not just the "Microsoft Sam" part), and Chase's ugly singing voice. He sounds sleazy and charmless on it at every turn.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Apr 15, 2014 22:06:41 GMT -5
I can't at the men in here saying that they aren't offended by the lyrics. Like, really?
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Post by matty005 on Apr 15, 2014 22:28:44 GMT -5
I can't at the men in here saying that they aren't offended by the lyrics. Like, really? Yes. Really. I can't at the women who aren't offended when Carrie sings about killing a person because he cheats on her. Or I can't at the women in here who are fine with the Band Perry being okay with a song where a woman physically abuses a man. And I just can't how women can think Dolly Parton can sing a song about a guy putting her in heat and be okay with it. Being offended is just whining to me.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Apr 15, 2014 22:38:35 GMT -5
I'm not really offended, more so just shocked that anyone could even think of being that disrespectful to a woman. I would not even consider saying anything remotely close to that.
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Post by matty005 on Apr 15, 2014 22:45:08 GMT -5
I'm not really offended, more so just shocked that anyone could even think of being that disrespectful to a woman. I would not even consider saying anything remotely close to that. I would never say this to a girl I didn't know or was trying to get to know better. But is it that bad to say to a girl you're in a committed relationship to? Some women may not like it, bit some would have no problem with it if you said it in private and tongue in cheek. Maybe not you, but not everyone thinks exactly like you do (and I'm saying you as a general term, not so much you, Markus :) )
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 15, 2014 22:51:27 GMT -5
I'm not really offended, more so just shocked that anyone could even think of being that disrespectful to a woman. I would not even consider saying anything remotely close to that. I would never say this to a girl I didn't know or was trying to get to know better. But is it that bad to say to a girl you're in a committed relationship to? Some women may not like it, bit some would have no problem with it if you said it in private and tongue in cheek. Maybe not you, but not everyone thinks exactly like you do (and I'm saying you as a general term, not so much you, Markus :) ) I clearly feel everyone is different, and everyone has their personal feelings about what's appropriate or offensive. But there is no possible way I would ever say that to my significant other. Whether they are a girlfriend, a long time girlfriend, fiance, or wife. If I said that to anybody I've gone out with so far in my life, that would be the end of that relationship pretty damn quick. I also agree with Ten Pound Hammer. The way Chase sings the song makes it that much worse. I respect your opinion Matt, and you bring up a good counter argument, but even though I'm not a woman, this is easily the biggest piece of trash to ever be played on country radio. My personal opinion of course.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Apr 15, 2014 23:04:23 GMT -5
I'm not really offended, more so just shocked that anyone could even think of being that disrespectful to a woman. I would not even consider saying anything remotely close to that. I would never say this to a girl I didn't know or was trying to get to know better. But is it that bad to say to a girl you're in a committed relationship to? Some women may not like it, bit some would have no problem with it if you said it in private and tongue in cheek. Maybe not you, but not everyone thinks exactly like you do (and I'm saying you as a general term, not so much you, Markus :) ) I'd say so, because, at least to me, it shows that you're more interested in her body than her as a person. Had it said "get on up here in my truck" I wouldn't have had as much of an issue. That said, everyone has their own opinions.
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Post by matty005 on Apr 15, 2014 23:04:41 GMT -5
I would never say this to a girl I didn't know or was trying to get to know better. But is it that bad to say to a girl you're in a committed relationship to? Some women may not like it, bit some would have no problem with it if you said it in private and tongue in cheek. Maybe not you, but not everyone thinks exactly like you do (and I'm saying you as a general term, not so much you, Markus :) ) I clearly feel everyone is different, and everyone has their personal feelings about what's appropriate or offensive. But there is no possible way I would ever say that to my significant other. Whether they are a girlfriend, a long time girlfriend, fiance, or wife. If I said that to anybody I've gone out with so far in my life, that would be the end of that relationship pretty damn quick. I also agree with Ten Pound Hammer. The way Chase sings the song makes it that much worse. I respect your opinion Matt, and you bring up a good counter argument, but even though I'm not a woman, this is easily the biggest piece of trash to ever be played on country radio. My personal opinion of course. Yes, I get exactly what you're saying. I felel like this phrase could be said in a way that IS completely disrespectful. And some people can say this in a way that's playful and maybe a little flirtatious but it's not meant to be taken seriously. How is Chase saying it? I'm not sure. But I just don't think people should judge other people for not being offended by it.
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