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Post by vipanonymous on Nov 2, 2014 7:46:18 GMT -5
Please! The two above or Black Beauty.
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Post by Glove Slap on Nov 4, 2014 18:09:25 GMT -5
Shame that the didn't do anything for this after it was released. But then again, it's sold enough off prior hype that they probably actually made money from it.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Nov 4, 2014 18:27:53 GMT -5
After the botched rollout of West Coast, the fact that they didnt promote this at all didn't surprise me. What surprises me is that it was able to sell 400k just off Lana's name.
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Post by SHOOTER on Nov 4, 2014 18:29:30 GMT -5
I'm still dying for BB to be a single or at least a real video.
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Post by Kishi KCM on Nov 5, 2014 13:34:15 GMT -5
The album itself is fine, which I'm satisfied with.
Seeing her live in April was awesome.
But the buzz and excitement about the album is done. Everyone who wanted to buy the album from what they've heard or just because it's LDR has already. I wonder if they have any plans to promote to casual listeners/fans.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Nov 5, 2014 13:36:35 GMT -5
I still love the album and listen to something from it every day. I am sad they basically never promoted it though. I know promoting isn't her thing, but it makes me sad that all we got were a few cheap videos and then nothing. I guess that is just Lana though.
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Post by Keelzit on Nov 5, 2014 13:37:31 GMT -5
This era came and gone too fast. I can't believe that they did absolutely nothing to milk this album. Especially when Born To Die/Paradise were being promoted for almost 2 years. I hope Lana hasn't lost interest in making amazing music videos which was the reason why the previous era was so big.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Nov 5, 2014 13:42:22 GMT -5
I tried my damnedest, but outside of 5 or 6 tracks, I just couldn't get into the album like her previous two. Kind of glad this era came and went. Looking forward to what she has in store for the next album.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Nov 5, 2014 13:48:15 GMT -5
Will there be a next album? Has she said? I know for a while, there was some doubt as to whether or not a second album would even happen, with Lana saying she was more interested in doing soundtrack work.
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Post by dbhmr on Nov 5, 2014 13:55:06 GMT -5
I still love love love this album. It's dreary but wonderful. I hope she follows through that her follow-up EP to this will be called "Music to Watch Boys To" because that is the best album title ever.
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Post by Live Your Life on Nov 5, 2014 14:24:42 GMT -5
From her recent interviews, she seems completely uninterested in promoting her music.
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Post by seaguy27 on Nov 5, 2014 14:43:48 GMT -5
I love this album and still listen to it….sad that their was virtually no promo for it, however it still sold 400k which is not shabby at all.
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Post by surfy on Nov 5, 2014 18:05:09 GMT -5
I loved her, and I really liked some of the tracks when the album came out, but I'll admit, I quickly forgot about it and haven't really listened to much of it since it's release, and that's sad... :'(
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Post by cufan7 on Nov 6, 2014 9:14:28 GMT -5
I actually still listen to some songs (different ones) each day. With this said - I am a super fan. I think this album has some really great highs and really no lows. However, I just don't think Lana is going to pursue commercial success anymore. She simply doesn't seem to care about it, which I feel in a way proves that making music for her is a very genuine process. She's just such an interesting artist to me. I love her.
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Post by vipanonymous on Nov 6, 2014 12:52:37 GMT -5
I can't believe that's the "NEW VIDEO"
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Post by popbox on Nov 7, 2014 5:16:31 GMT -5
When it came out I said this album was good but didn't come close to BTD which would probably be her career high. Well, I was wrong. Months in and I wholly prefer this to BTD now. I listen to every single song fairly consistently, bonus ones and all. I didn't even do that with BTD as I'd always skip Carmen and That's What Makes Us Girls. I'm in love with this album now and its whole atmosphere. Lana got me again.
Oh yeah, and girl really does need to get on it with some promo. I mean I know success isn't what she makes music for, but still. Promote something.
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Post by Gray. on Nov 7, 2014 11:17:36 GMT -5
I loved her, and I really liked some of the tracks when the album came out, but I'll admit, I quickly forgot about it and haven't really listened to much of it since it's release, and that's sad... :'( Same I've listened to Born to Die more frequently than Ultraviolence since the latter's release. It's just better...
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Post by surfy on Nov 7, 2014 11:59:58 GMT -5
I loved her, and I really liked some of the tracks when the album came out, but I'll admit, I quickly forgot about it and haven't really listened to much of it since it's release, and that's sad... :'( Same I've listened to Born to Die more frequently than Ultraviolence since the latter's release. It's just better... Same, I listen to Born to Die like once a week... I'm going to relisten to this album over the weekend because I did like it, just forgot!
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Nov 7, 2014 12:15:06 GMT -5
I think I prefer Ultraviolence to BTD now too as a whole. The problem for me with BTD is that some of that production sounds dated already. I actually prefer some of the demos, which Lana herself has said she prefers as well and I think she even performs the demo-versions sometimes. I mean, it is still epic and has and always will have some of her best music, but even Paradise sounds like it has more updated/less dated production. I tend to make my own artist playlists anyway though so right now I have most of the songs from Paradise, about half of original BTD, half of Ultraviolence, and then a few of her best demos and unreleased songs on my Lana list.
If she keeps making music with this quality I do not care if she never promotes.
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Post by surfy on Nov 7, 2014 12:29:06 GMT -5
I think the fact that it sounds dated seems fitting considering that she's presenting herself in a classic retro sound.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Nov 7, 2014 13:44:30 GMT -5
Yeah, I am not on board with this UV>>>BTD contingent. BTD is one of the best albums, start to finish (weak spots included), that I have probably heard in a decade. I cannot say the same for UV, as much as I think it is also brilliant. It's more hypnotic and 420-friendly but better? Nah. Not for me, anyway.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Nov 7, 2014 15:30:46 GMT -5
I think the fact that it sounds dated seems fitting considering that she's presenting herself in a classic retro sound. There is a big difference between dated and retro/classic. There are actually old/retro songs that don't ever sound dated, for example. I think some of the production on BTD actually detracts from the classic retro sound she was going for and the demos represent a much better picture of the sound she wanted. I think that is also why she also prefers some of the demo versions that are less "popped" up and borderline over-produced. Obviously, this is only for some songs, not all of them. Again, just my opinion.
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Post by Keelzit on Nov 7, 2014 18:04:32 GMT -5
I don't care if she doesn't promote either. I just want those masterfully done epic videos. As cheap as West Coast was it still captivated me and had the classic Lana mood I got drawn by in the first place.
About which album is better, I think Ultraviolence is 'better' as it kind of tells a story but Born To Die clearly has stronger individual songs. I still consider West Coast to be her best song and the song that defines her artistry the most though.
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Post by dbhmr on Nov 7, 2014 18:10:06 GMT -5
About which album is better, I think Ultraviolence is 'better' as it kind of tells a story but Born To Die clearly has stronger individual songs. I still consider West Coast to be her best song and the song that defines her artistry the most though. I think I agree with this assessment, but it's hard to say since I've been listening to Born To Die so consistently for much longer than Ultraviolence, so something about the latter still feels fresher. But I think I'll ultimately agree that Ultraviolence is the stronger, more cohesive body of work, while Born To Die is the more exciting, flashes-of-brilliance album of the two. A stunning, wild debut compared to the more settled, understated follow-up. Paradise is up and down for me. I really only listen to "Ride," "American," and "Gods and Monsters" regularly, though, again, those are all of extremely high quality.
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Post by surfy on Nov 7, 2014 18:11:22 GMT -5
I've really become a fan of her over the past year, I used to despise her, but now... I just love the entire sound! It's beautiful and captivating!
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Post by Keelzit on Nov 7, 2014 18:15:32 GMT -5
About which album is better, I think Ultraviolence is 'better' as it kind of tells a story but Born To Die clearly has stronger individual songs. I still consider West Coast to be her best song and the song that defines her artistry the most though. I think I agree with this assessment, but it's hard to say since I've been listening to Born To Die so consistently for much longer than Ultraviolence, so something about the latter still feels fresher. But I think I'll ultimately agree that Ultraviolence is the stronger, more cohesive body of work, while Born To Die is the more exciting, flashes-of-brilliance album of the two. A stunning, wild debut compared to the more settled, understated follow-up. Paradise is up and down for me. I really only listen to "Ride," "American," and "Gods and Monsters" regularly, though, again, those are all of extremely high quality. Paradise is basically the bridge between the 2 full albums and blends their respective sounds perfectly. That said, I rank it below both of them as it hasn't held up well for me. Cola is the only song I listen to at times although when the EP first came out I was drooling all over it.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Nov 7, 2014 19:28:05 GMT -5
I hated paradise when it came out, but now I love it. Especially the Bowie-esque BelAir
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Post by Ling-Ling on Nov 8, 2014 12:24:56 GMT -5
Paradise is actually the album I listen to the most, outside of the unnecessary (but pleasant) cover of "Blue Velvet," I think it's perfection. BTD was never a perfect album, there are two or three tracks on there that I always skip, but the highlights are AMAZING. 2/3rds of UV is a sludgy bore. I don't find it particularly engaging or dynamic, which is what I'm used to from her. And I don't think it pushed her artistry forward either.
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Post by Keelzit on Nov 8, 2014 20:07:44 GMT -5
Paradise is actually the album I listen to the most, outside of the unnecessary (but pleasant) cover of "Blue Velvet," I think it's perfection. BTD was never a perfect album, there are two or three tracks on there that I always skip, but the highlights are AMAZING. 2/3rds of UV is a sludgy bore. I don't find it particularly engaging or dynamic, which is what I'm used to from her. And I don't think it pushed her artistry forward either. I think it did. She ditched all of the intentional melodrama (which I absolutely love though) and vanilla of Born To Die and she went raw full-on. No matter if Ultraviolence is one's taste or not the fact that nothing on it sounds like it could belong on Born To Die signals at some kind of progress as she didn't use the safe and tested successful formula but explored new sounds instead.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Nov 9, 2014 8:28:03 GMT -5
I think the album is still pretty melodramatic in places. And she went full on raw? Really? Thematically, lyrically, vocally, it's pretty on par with all of her previous work to me. In terms of the production, I agree this album incorporates more organic instrumentation, but it's just a slight variation on what she was doing before. She certainly didn't reinvent herself by any means and I wouldn't call it a progression either since most of it doesn't work for me. But I seem to be in the minority on this, so good for her.
Still a fan, I just hope the next album is more consistent.
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