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Post by Green Baron on Jul 20, 2014 20:41:39 GMT -5
This is losing spins on Alt. Why...
This was the greatest gainer before I left on my vacation. It had a +200 something bullet.
You know what, it's the damn Bermuda Triangle that fucked up the chart for me.
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Post by Superundercover on Jul 23, 2014 15:50:41 GMT -5
Music video!
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Post by Green Baron on Jul 23, 2014 16:13:12 GMT -5
This thing with Alt is like a yoyo.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 10:15:49 GMT -5
lost bullet on alt
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Post by Cody on Jul 25, 2014 10:25:02 GMT -5
10 bucks says Green Baron is gonna say something along the lines of "f**k alt" or "f***ing indie garbage screwing f***ing alt over."
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Post by Green Baron on Jul 25, 2014 10:44:08 GMT -5
10 bucks says Green Baron is gonna say something along the lines of "f**k alt" or "f***ing indie garbage screwing f***ing alt over." Said that as soon as I saw the update yesterday.
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Post by Green Baron on Jul 25, 2014 10:46:16 GMT -5
I'm more pissed that it's doing good on active
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Post by Lordef†ones on Jul 25, 2014 14:06:22 GMT -5
I haven't listened to the album yet surprisingly, haven't had the time, but The Sufferer & The Witness is far and ahead my favorite Rise Against album, Appeal and Endgame don't even come close for me.
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Post by Green Baron on Jul 26, 2014 10:31:19 GMT -5
Second life, motherfuckers. Should pass Cage the Elephant tomorrow.
13 13 RISE AGAINST I Don't Want To Be Here... 1239 1198 41 3.597
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Post by Web on Jul 26, 2014 23:05:32 GMT -5
I'm not so sure if I'd say it's having a second life since the spin increases today were so inflated. I'd like to see if it can continue going upwards, I still think it's going to start falling off pretty soon, and I don't think it's hitting Top 10 with both alt-J and Weezer with pretty massive bullets. Would be nice to be wrong, but I don't think it's going to be the case.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Aug 2, 2014 11:56:36 GMT -5
This has 1332 spins on Alternative, and 1252 spins on Active, and yet its Active spot is 6 positions higher than its Alternative spot.
Well damn. Doesn't Active have more stations on its panel too?
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Post by Cody on Aug 2, 2014 13:20:15 GMT -5
They did before the most recent change last week, I don't know about now. Actives also play more of a balance of older hits with the newer stuff, but that probably has to do with poor audience figures for newer songs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 0:45:26 GMT -5
could go top 10 after all
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Post by krissirge on Aug 4, 2014 2:28:52 GMT -5
True, been listening to a lot of active rock station at work... And damn, wish they would play more songs from the top 40 of the current chart, than playing older Metallica, AC/DC and Nirvana songs every day...
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Post by Chuckles, The Silly Piggy on Aug 4, 2014 6:40:24 GMT -5
Does this mean they're finally going to do what's right and add more active leaning songs to Alternative?
Is this the change we've been waiting for?
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Post by Cody on Aug 4, 2014 11:02:05 GMT -5
It's funny how many debates we have about the state of alternative and how establish bands keep flopping and what not, but there's a pretty decent chance that we'll have two older established bands with some fairly heavy lead-singles in the top 10 at once (Weezer and Rise Against).
It just goes to show that if the song appeals to enough of an audience it can still do well. Weezer and Rise Against are #10 & #11, with the #10 and #11 ranked audience numbers respectively. And you know what, they're both pretty good songs. It took me awhile to warm up to both, and I still find the Weezer lyrics a tad cheesy, but all in all I think they both deserve to go top 10.
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Post by bluestar4 on Aug 5, 2014 13:20:07 GMT -5
This has 1332 spins on Alternative, and 1252 spins on Active, and yet its Active spot is 6 positions higher than its Alternative spot. Well damn. Doesn't Active have more stations on its panel too? Just goes to show how much Alternative stations overplay their top songs.
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Post by Cody on Aug 5, 2014 13:26:11 GMT -5
^ Way off. There aren't very many alt stations with heavy rotations that play songs more than 50 times a week. Many of them top off at 35ish per week for their top songs. Active stations include more older hits because of the rapidly declining popularity of the newer hits. Their audience would plummet otherwise.
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Post by bluestar4 on Aug 5, 2014 13:39:46 GMT -5
^ Way off. There aren't very many alt stations with heavy rotations that play songs more than 50 times a week. Many of them top off at 35ish per week for their top songs. Active stations include more older hits because of the rapidly declining popularity of the newer hits. Their audience would plummet otherwise. There's still a decent amount though. KHTB, KYSR, KPOI, KUCD, KBZT, and WSUN are all playing "Riptide" more than 60x a week (WSUN is spinning it 119 times a week). WXXJ, KNDD, KXTE, KROX, KITS, KDGE, WOLT, and KTBZ are other stations that have at least one song with 60 spins or more every week. Yes, active rock stations don't play their currents that often and that is a reason for the spin difference, but Alternative stations whoring out their top songs affects the charts as well. That being said, I feel bad for whoever has to listen to WSUN. 120 spins a week is more plays than most pop stations.
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Post by Cody on Aug 5, 2014 14:51:17 GMT -5
I would also guess Active stations have way more commercial breaks, but that's entirely based on the difference in amount of commercials between active and alternative stations I've listened to in Ontario. My local active station for example is ALWAYS on commercial break.
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Post by Lordef†ones on Aug 5, 2014 17:09:31 GMT -5
Please don't compare Rise Against to Weezer.
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Post by Superundercover on Aug 11, 2014 13:33:38 GMT -5
Top 5 on Active:
6 5 RISE AGAINST I Don't Want To Be Here Anymore 1334 1263 71 3.827
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Post by Web on Aug 11, 2014 16:08:50 GMT -5
This looks like it might get to sneak into the Top 10 for a little bit as the Arctic Monkeys and maybe Kongos fall off. Alt-J and Hozier are coming in fast though so maybe it's going to get stuck at #10.
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Post by shakermaker on Aug 13, 2014 6:12:04 GMT -5
Top 10 on Alternative:
11 10 RISE AGAINST I Don't Want To Be Here... 1382 1378 4 4.297
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 13, 2014 8:48:18 GMT -5
Dammit. Losing spins.
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Post by Cody on Aug 13, 2014 10:28:07 GMT -5
Not sure this will make it to Sunday unfortunately.
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 13, 2014 10:28:47 GMT -5
Not sure this will make it to Sunday unfortunately. does it really matter tho? EDIT: Billboard is fucking this song over and I don't like it. It moves down 13-14 because somehow alt-J leapfrogged it. Fuck you, Billboard.
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Post by Cody on Aug 13, 2014 10:33:49 GMT -5
Not sure this will make it to Sunday unfortunately. does it really matter tho? EDIT: Billboard is f**king this song over and I don't like it. It moves down 13-14 because somehow alt-J leapfrogged it. f**k you, Billboard. Well yeah it matters. Mediabase is only official on Sunday nights. It needs to be #10 Sunday night to officially be a top 10 hit. "Entertainment" was also a midweek top 10 before falling back to #11 by Sunday.
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 13, 2014 10:35:22 GMT -5
does it really matter tho? EDIT: Billboard is f**king this song over and I don't like it. It moves down 13-14 because somehow alt-J leapfrogged it. f**k you, Billboard. Well yeah it matters. Mediabase is only official on Sunday nights. It needs to be #10 Sunday night to officially be a top 10 hit. "Entertainment" was also a midweek top 10 before falling back to #11 by Sunday. It's not making Top 10 on the "official" chart because Billboard is stupid and for some fuck reason gets their info from stations that don't play this song.
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Post by Lordef†ones on Aug 20, 2014 20:08:20 GMT -5
Mediabase > Billboard
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