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Post by surfy on Oct 18, 2015 23:32:23 GMT -5
I just saw an artist's tweet that said his near 9M streams barely earned him over what he would be making as a retail worker (Iirc)
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Post by itsaboutart on Oct 18, 2015 23:58:34 GMT -5
I just saw an artist's tweet that said his near 9M streams barely earned him over what he would be making as a retail worker (Iirc) I find this interesting cos spotify always says it gives half a cent back to the label from a song streamed. So let's take jepsens I really like you at 150 million streams = 750,000 dollars. . Where is the money going then? Is it the streaming services or the record labels? I'm confused
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Post by surfy on Oct 19, 2015 0:09:55 GMT -5
I just saw an artist's tweet that said his near 9M streams barely earned him over what he would be making as a retail worker (Iirc) I find this interesting cos spotify always says it gives half a cent back to the label from a song streamed. So let's take jepsens I really like you at 150 million streams = 750,000 dollars. . Where is the money going then? Is it the streaming services or the record labels? I'm confused I'm not 100% sure what Spotify's rate is, but I heard somewhere that it's $0.00004 (but again don't know how accurate that is) I'm sure the record labels end up with most of the revenue.
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Post by ¤ Matthea ¤ on Oct 19, 2015 8:48:10 GMT -5
There is no fixed rate since it depends on the total Spotify revenue (subscriptions, ads) and the total number of streams. But roughly, it's $0.007. That's what Spotify pays out to the rights holders. They don't pay directly to the artists, so Spotify doesn't care when artists complain that they got very little from Spotify. Spotify doesn't pay directly to the artist. Rights holders pay a fraction of what they get from streaming services to the artist.
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Post by Kinney on Oct 19, 2015 14:52:02 GMT -5
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Post by tommymonster44 on Oct 19, 2015 14:58:03 GMT -5
The thing with Taylor is that regardless of the moral high ground she pretends to walk on, I'm always going to believe that she keeps her music off Spotify solely because it increases her album revenue. Now that isn't a problem, but I'd wish she'd just own up to it.
If she wanted to actually help up and coming artists, she would work with Spotify to create a plan that is more beneficial to them. Because new acts sure aren't getting their paycheck from album sales, either.
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Post by Kinney on Oct 19, 2015 15:34:19 GMT -5
The thing with Taylor is that regardless of the moral high ground she pretends to walk on, I'm always going to believe that she keeps her music off Spotify solely because it increases her album revenue. Now that isn't a problem, but I'd wish she'd just own up to it. She literally said this exact thing in November when she took off all her music from Spotify... Where is the pretending? The pretty much endless supply of indie artists that thanked her for the Apple Music trial royalties (which was another issue entirely) is proof positive that she did help them out in her own way. She said her piece for each situation, and no other artist has to follow her lead if they don't agree. Meanwhile James Blunt just tweeted this a few days ago:
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Post by surfy on Oct 19, 2015 16:07:08 GMT -5
That's who it was!
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Post by ¤ Matthea ¤ on Oct 19, 2015 16:39:04 GMT -5
Yeah, but James Blunt's paycheck didn't come directly from Spotify. That's the problem. It's not Spotify's fault that he got only a fraction of what Spotify paid out.
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Post by bat1990 on Oct 20, 2015 11:56:18 GMT -5
That's roughly 450.00 pounds per 1,000,000 streams.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Oct 20, 2015 13:05:43 GMT -5
So, apparently Bad Blood IS about an ex and not about Katy Perry but yet, Selener plead the 5th on WWHL when asked if it was about Katy. Enough with the antics and publicity stunts. Let's just focus on the music, which is excellent and doesn't need all this intrigue and subtext.
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Post by Kinney on Oct 20, 2015 20:23:09 GMT -5
Blank Space is now the most viewed video ever on Vevo!
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Post by matty005 on Oct 20, 2015 20:24:12 GMT -5
The fact that Bad Blood won VMA Video of the Year and Blank Space didn't, blows my mind.
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Post by wjr15 on Oct 20, 2015 20:36:57 GMT -5
The fact that Bad Blood won VMA Video of the Year and Blank Space didn't, blows my mind. Blank Space wasn't nominated for Video of the Year which blows my mind. The Bad Blood video was just extremely hyped and overrated. It's still a good video, but Blank Space is one of the best music videos of the decade. Oh God...I'm having a Kanye moment
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Post by Florencia on Oct 21, 2015 20:06:07 GMT -5
So, apparently Bad Blood IS about an ex and not about Katy Perry but yet, Selener plead the 5th on WWHL when asked if it was about Katy. Enough with the antics and publicity stunts. Let's just focus on the music, which is excellent and doesn't need all this intrigue and subtext. I am surprised at how many people don't seem to grasp what she meant. This is the best post I read about the topic in any conversation about it:
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Post by Active Aggressive on Oct 21, 2015 21:06:38 GMT -5
Blah blah blah anyway...I never got over my obsession with This Love and You Are In Love. The album, as a whole though, is still ace.
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Post by matty005 on Oct 21, 2015 21:21:24 GMT -5
Blah blah blah anyway...I never got over my obsession with This Love and You Are In Love. The album, as a whole though, is still ace. "Blah blah blah, I am wrong and even though the poster above me was nice about correcting me and showing me my error, I am immature and don't know to how have a discussion like an adult."
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Post by Active Aggressive on Oct 21, 2015 21:24:47 GMT -5
Yeah...because saying "I'm surprised how many people don't seem to grasp what she meant" is the epitome of nice and isn't condescending at all, huh? LOL. Man, where are the regular Taylor fans in this thread??
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Post by Florencia on Oct 21, 2015 22:17:02 GMT -5
Yeah...because saying "I'm surprised how many people don't seem to grasp what she meant" is the epitome of nice and isn't condescending at all, huh? LOL. Man, where are the regular Taylor fans in this thread?? I wasn't talking specifically about you... I meant in general. I am surprised cause Taylor's quote was clear imo and I am surprised at how it was so misinterpreted. If it came out condescending, you have my apologies. English is not my first language and sometimes what I wanna say is not clear.
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Post by allow that on Oct 21, 2015 22:23:05 GMT -5
Yeah...because saying "I'm surprised how many people don't seem to grasp what she meant" is the epitome of nice and isn't condescending at all, huh? LOL. Man, where are the regular Taylor fans in this thread?? I wasn't talking specifically about you... I meant in general. I am surprised cause Taylor's quote was clear imo and I am surprised at how it was so misinterpreted. If it came out condescending, you have my apologies. English is not my first language and sometimes what I wanna say is not clear. Awww, I thought you expressed it very clearly and nicely :)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 22:31:15 GMT -5
As a Taylor Swift fan I get it. I understand the dilemma we face as her fans.
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Post by Florencia on Oct 21, 2015 22:34:04 GMT -5
I wasn't talking specifically about you... I meant in general. I am surprised cause Taylor's quote was clear imo and I am surprised at how it was so misinterpreted. If it came out condescending, you have my apologies. English is not my first language and sometimes what I wanna say is not clear. Awww, I thought you expressed it very clearly and nicely :) Thank you ♡
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Post by Clauss on Oct 21, 2015 23:15:35 GMT -5
RED's anniversary is today. It's been 3 years since it came out. I feel so old.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Oct 22, 2015 7:49:51 GMT -5
I wasn't talking specifically about you... I meant in general. I am surprised cause Taylor's quote was clear imo and I am surprised at how it was so misinterpreted. If it came out condescending, you have my apologies. English is not my first language and sometimes what I wanna say is not clear. Ah, OK. Well, my "blah blah blah" was really in direct response to the post you quoted, which is pretty convoluted (in my opinion), but I definitely took your comment to mean that you don't understand why so many people couldn't grasp such a simple explanation. I guess I thought you were implying stupidity but I didn't realize that English isn't your primary language and I am definitely prone to misinterpreting things so I accept your apology and also apologize for my aggressive post. That said, I stand by my original post. It seems like Taylor thrives on baiting the media/her fans and then, when the heat gets hot, playing coy. She definitely knows how to manipulate the media, no doubt about that. I'm not really seeing the "error" in what I said. This is quite a common complaint about Taylor. As a fan of her music, I try to drown out all the noise around her but sometimes, it gets quite loud.
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Post by Wavey✨️ on Oct 22, 2015 8:09:01 GMT -5
She's kind of like Beyonce when it comes to drama in the media-it rarely hits them. Kind of intriguing.
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Post by matty005 on Oct 22, 2015 8:35:23 GMT -5
I wasn't talking specifically about you... I meant in general. I am surprised cause Taylor's quote was clear imo and I am surprised at how it was so misinterpreted. If it came out condescending, you have my apologies. English is not my first language and sometimes what I wanna say is not clear. Ah, OK. Well, my "blah blah blah" was really in direct response to the post you quoted, which is pretty convoluted (in my opinion), but I definitely took your comment to mean that you don't understand why so many people couldn't grasp such a simple explanation. I guess I thought you were implying stupidity but I didn't realize that English isn't your primary language and I am definitely prone to misinterpreting things so I accept your apology and also apologize for my aggressive post. That said, I stand by my original post. It seems like Taylor thrives on baiting the media/her fans and then, when the heat gets hot, playing coy. She definitely knows how to manipulate the media, no doubt about that. I'm not really seeing the "error" in what I said. This is quite a common complaint about Taylor. As a fan of her music, I try to drown out all the noise around her but sometimes, it gets quite loud. So you think Bad Blood is about an ex boyfriend then?
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Post by Active Aggressive on Oct 22, 2015 9:25:38 GMT -5
I don't. But, she put out so many deliberate hints that it was about Katy and then backpedaled kinda-sorta, saying she only said those things because she didn't want her ex's mother or whatever to think it was about him. To me, it sounds like she was trying to say that it WAS about her ex and she just deflected the attention elsewhere...deliberately. But, you see, the fact that this is even a point of conversation proves my point. When your music is this good (and it surely is), why even create intrigue. Music should speak for itself.
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Post by Clauss on Oct 25, 2015 9:28:00 GMT -5
Yesterday, Taylor Swift, her first album, turned 9 years old! And.. today, Speak Now, the masterpiece, turns 5 years old!! Let's celebrate these amazing songs that SN spawned Sparks Fly, Back To December, Dear John, Mean, Enchanted, Innocent, Haunted, Last Kiss, Ours. When will 1989 :'(
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Post by Future Captain on Oct 25, 2015 10:22:48 GMT -5
Three days ago, Red (You know, the one that have I Knew You Were Trouble) turned 3 years old!
P.S. Just making sure no album got left out :)
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Oct 25, 2015 12:29:24 GMT -5
Yesterday, Taylor Swift, her first album, turned 9 years old! And.. today, Speak Now, the masterpiece, turns 5 years old!! Let's celebrate these amazing songs that SN spawned Sparks Fly, Back To December, Dear John, Mean, Enchanted, Innocent, Haunted, Last Kiss, Ours. When will 1989 :'( In 8 and 4 years respectively.
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