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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Nov 3, 2014 10:18:28 GMT -5
She's playing MetLife Stadium. It's literally across the Hudson. She sold it out in 2013 (52K seats)
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Post by surfy on Nov 3, 2014 10:20:23 GMT -5
Wish I had money so I could go... but alas, I cannot.
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Post by Joe1240 on Nov 3, 2014 10:30:36 GMT -5
Taylor Swift Removes All Her Albums from SpotifyFans of Taylor Swift who rely on Spotify to stream their music are out of luck as she has removed all of her albums from the service. The decision lead Spotify to release a statement on its website to notify fans. “We love Taylor Swift, and our more than 40 million users love her even more – nearly 16 million of them have played her songs in the last 30 days, and she’s on over 19 million playlists,” the statement read. “We hope she’ll change her mind and join us in building a new music economy that works for everyone. We believe fans should be able to listen to music wherever and whenever they want, and that artists have an absolute right to be paid for their work and protected from piracy. That’s why we pay nearly 70% of our revenue back to the music community.” “PS – Taylor, we were both young when we first saw you, but now there’s more than 40 million of us who want you to stay, stay, stay. It’s a love story, baby, just say, Yes,” the company added. In the meantime, check out the dates for the 1989 World Tour, which Taylor just announced. www.justjared.com/2014/11/03/taylor-swift-removes-all-her-albums-from-spotify/
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Nov 3, 2014 10:34:29 GMT -5
This is a huge tactical error for them. Even the Shake It Off single is gone. Guess AATB will be #1 for a while.
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Post by surfy on Nov 3, 2014 10:37:29 GMT -5
What are they trying to prove, the other albums aren't even selling anymore?!? This was a big way to make money for her, and she wasn't losing sales by keeping it up, so what the actual fuck is she doing?!?!?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 10:44:53 GMT -5
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Post by Flip on Nov 3, 2014 10:47:12 GMT -5
So Taylor her team decided to remove all her music from Spotify. WHY? Such a dumb action... Streaming is too important these days...
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Post by kanimal on Nov 3, 2014 10:54:49 GMT -5
What are they trying to prove, the other albums aren't even selling anymore?!? This was a big way to make money for her, and she wasn't losing sales by keeping it up, so what the actual f**k is she doing?!?!? Beyond the direct impact on first-week sales/charting (from a sales standpoint), Swift has confirmed herself to be in the camp that believes Spotify/streaming devalues the art. Taking an actual stand -- even at the expense of chart ranking (from a streaming standpoint) -- is the best way to make a statement. I'm not saying this doesn't suck from a user standpoint, but let's be honest with ourselves here. The only reason anyone is upset when big name artists don't stream is because it means they have to pay more money to access the music.
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Post by Glove Slap on Nov 3, 2014 10:55:43 GMT -5
They'll probably put them back up once the tour is winding down. Her hype is so high now that they want to squeeze every last drop they can.
Also, how're you gonna go on about how you love New York, and then not do tour dates there?
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Nov 3, 2014 10:57:16 GMT -5
Also, how're you gonna go on about how you love New York, and then not do tour dates there? As I said above, she's playing MetLife Stadium. That's her NYC date.
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Post by kanimal on Nov 3, 2014 10:58:04 GMT -5
They'll probably put them back up once the tour is winding down. Her hype is so high now that they want to squeeze every last drop they can. Also, how're you gonna go on about how you love New York, and then not do tour dates there?She is doing New York. The MetLife Stadium (where the Jets and Giants play) is in East Rutherford, which is a few miles away from the city and "New York" from a marketing standpoint.
Real estate often doesn't always allow for stadiums--and that's where Taylor's at right now--to exist in major cities. It just so happens that the closest available space is across the river.
AHH, just got beaten to it.
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Post by Glove Slap on Nov 3, 2014 11:01:28 GMT -5
Also, how're you gonna go on about how you love New York, and then not do tour dates there? As I said above, she's playing MetLife Stadium. That's her NYC date. Haha whoops my bad, just scrolled through the cities they listed . Thanks :).
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Nov 3, 2014 11:03:21 GMT -5
What are they trying to prove, the other albums aren't even selling anymore?!? This was a big way to make money for her, and she wasn't losing sales by keeping it up, so what the actual f**k is she doing?!?!? Beyond the direct impact on first-week sales/charting (from a sales standpoint), Swift has confirmed herself to be in the camp that believes Spotify/streaming devalues the art. Taking an actual stand -- even at the expense of chart ranking (from a streaming standpoint) -- is the best way to make a statement. I'm not saying this doesn't suck from a user standpoint, but let's be honest with ourselves here. The only reason anyone is upset when big name artists don't stream is because it means they have to pay more money to access the music. Will she stop putting her music videos on YouTube too and only have them available for sale through iTunes? I dont see what the difference is.
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Post by surfy on Nov 3, 2014 11:11:21 GMT -5
Beyond the direct impact on first-week sales/charting (from a sales standpoint), Swift has confirmed herself to be in the camp that believes Spotify/streaming devalues the art. Taking an actual stand -- even at the expense of chart ranking (from a streaming standpoint) -- is the best way to make a statement. I'm not saying this doesn't suck from a user standpoint, but let's be honest with ourselves here. The only reason anyone is upset when big name artists don't stream is because it means they have to pay more money to access the music. Will she stop putting her music videos on YouTube too and only have them available for sale through iTunes? I dont see what the difference is. This. It does nothing to devalue the art. In fact, it helps people who don't have enough money to keep buying music to access it and enjoy it legally, the artists gets paid for it, and everything's fine. I honestly don't see why people are so butthurt about streaming taking over... I already bought the album. Twice. I'm still upset because I want her to succeed on the Billboard Hot 100 because I'm a big fan of her and I would like to see her succeed the highest amount possible, and also she gets more money with Spotify, so that's also a factor... I just don't see a reason for taking it off Spotify.
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Post by kanimal on Nov 3, 2014 11:13:23 GMT -5
Beyond the direct impact on first-week sales/charting (from a sales standpoint), Swift has confirmed herself to be in the camp that believes Spotify/streaming devalues the art. Taking an actual stand -- even at the expense of chart ranking (from a streaming standpoint) -- is the best way to make a statement. I'm not saying this doesn't suck from a user standpoint, but let's be honest with ourselves here. The only reason anyone is upset when big name artists don't stream is because it means they have to pay more money to access the music. Will she stop putting her music videos on YouTube too and only have them available for sale through iTunes? I dont see what the difference is. -- The major streaming services allow you to "cache" music on your device. So I can, for all intents and purposes, "own" any album I want - the second it comes out. In fact, the last thing I do before going to bed on Monday is to cache all the interesting new albums so that I can listen to them on the go (without worrying about signal/data charges). That's usually about $40 worth of new music that I'm getting for ~$2.50 (and that $2.50 assumes I listen to nothing else all week). It also syncs with your regular music collection and functions like a true, iTunes-esque music player. So, from a practical standpoint, streaming is a complete, seamless alternative to buying music. But the artist doesn't get paid the same way she would if you bought it. As far as I know, YouTube doesn't have that functionality. In fact, my phone doesn't even allow me to play a YouTube video while my screen is locked. So if I'm at the gym and don't want to randomly pocket-click a bunch of stuff, I can't remotely use YouTube as an alternative to owning music or the video. -- There is a fundamental difference between your albums/singles and the video. Plus, it's her stuff, so she can do what she wants with it -- that's really the point of all this. But if she did take her music videos off YouTube, I wouldn't see a problem with it). If I go on iTunes, $9.99 buys me one album. Maybe. If I go on Spotify, $9.99 buys me all the albums. That's, by definition, devaluing the art. (As for the whole legally/the artist gets paid for it -- that's only true if the artist is okay with the price point that Spotify has set. If you're in Taylor Swift's shoes and believe your music is worth full retail price, then everything isn't fine. If I Torrent an album and sent the artist a check for 8 cents, you wouldn't say everything's fine)
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Nov 3, 2014 11:16:42 GMT -5
What's her status on the rest of the on-demand services? Has she been taken off all of them as well? The only articles I've seen only discuss Spotify.
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Post by Joe1240 on Nov 3, 2014 11:18:36 GMT -5
Taylor Swift To Debut Performance of 'Blank Space' at 2014 American Music Awards By Wendy Geller 24 minutes ago Yahoo Music Give thanks for Taylor Swift! If you're a Taylor Swift fan (and who isn't, these days?) the global superstar and seven-time Grammy winnner has a fun surprise for you Thanksgiving week. On November 23, Swift will debut her live performance of new song "Blank Space" at the 2014 American Music Awards. The tune is from her newest collection, 1989, which hit the streets October 27 and topped charts worldwide the day of its release. Swift additionally announced that she'll be touring behind her fifth studio album, with a globe-spanning trek beginning in May of 2015. Swift joins a star-studded lineup of previously announced must-see performers at the world’s biggest fan-voted award show including 5 Seconds of Summer, Iggy Azalea, Mary J. Blige, Charli XCX, Fergie, Lorde, One Direction, Sam Smith and the evening’s host, Pitbull. The 2014 American Music Awards will broadcast live from the Nokiea Theatre L.A. LIVE Nov. 23 at 8:00 PT/11:00 p.m. ET on ABC. For a full list of nominees visit AMAvote.com. music.yahoo.com/blogs/music-news/taylor-swift-to-debut-performance-of--blank-space--at-2014-american-music-awards-154908810.html
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Post by Joe1240 on Nov 3, 2014 11:20:56 GMT -5
Hate to double post this is breaking news about Taylor. Taylor Swift Catalog Removed From Spotify Due to Big Machine Sale Talks, Claims Source Two days before Taylor Swift is predicted to shatter this year's first-week sales record, Big Machine Label Group has pulled the star's catalog from streaming service Spotify, prompting the company to take the unprecedented move of appealing to her (very large, sleeve-mounted) heart, and that of her label. In a blog post titled "On Taylor Swift’s Decision To Remove Her Music from Spotify," the company wrote: "We believe fans should be able to listen to music wherever and whenever they want, and that artists have an absolute right to be paid for their work and protected from piracy." The message displayed within Spotify when users try to play Taylor Swift's music. A Spotify employee with intimate knowledge of the situation tells Billboard that the move was motivated by the Big Machine Label Group's ongoing negotiations around a sale of the label, with Big Machine ostensibly taking advantage of a new scarcity to drive up its sale price. "This came as a complete surprise. Big Machine is in the process of selling itself, and that can't be forgotten here. [They're looking to] increase the multiple for the sale of that company. Scott Borchetta is a very old-school thinker. He's wrong." Related Taylor Swift Announces '1989' World Tour Dates Taylor Swift's '1989' Set for Biggest Sales Week Since 2002: 1.3 Million-Plus The Elaborate High-Security Tactics Behind Taylor Swift's Album Release News of Big Machine's rumored sale negotiations came out over the weekend, with some sources reporting that label head Scott Borchetta's asking price as "pie in the sky." When asked whether the move of posting an appeal risked coming across as desperate, "It's about our fans and trying to protect their investment in their collections -- a lot of playlists got greyed out." According to their blog post, Swift's music was on 19 million playlists. When asked about whether any other artists had pulled records from the service, Billboard's source "I think at one time we had the john lennon catalog and it went down then went back up." At publication time, other Big Machine Label Group artists, such as Florida Georgia Line, were still available on the streaming service. Big Machine Label Group did not immediately respond to a request for comment. www.billboard.com/articles/business/6304382/taylor-swift-catalog-removed-from-spotify?utm_source=twitter
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Post by surfy on Nov 3, 2014 11:21:39 GMT -5
Will she stop putting her music videos on YouTube too and only have them available for sale through iTunes? I dont see what the difference is. -- The major streaming services allow you to "cache" music on your device. So I can, for all intents and purposes, "own" any album I want - the second it comes out. In fact, the last thing I do before going to bed on Monday is to cache all the interesting new albums so that I can listen to them on the go (without worrying about signal/data charges). That's usually about $40 worth of new music that I'm getting for ~$2.50 (and that $2.50 assumes I listen to nothing else all week). It also syncs with your regular music collection and functions like a true, iTunes-esque music player. So, from a practical standpoint, streaming is a complete, seamless alternative to buying music. But the artist doesn't get paid the same way she would if you bought it. As far as I know, YouTube doesn't have that functionality. In fact, my phone doesn't even allow me to play a YouTube video while my screen is locked. So if I'm at the gym and don't want to randomly pocket-click a bunch of stuff, I can't remotely use YouTube as an alternative to owning music or the video. -- There is a fundamental difference between your albums/singles and the video. Plus, it's her stuff, so she can do what she wants with it -- that's really the point of all this. But if she did take her music videos off YouTube, I wouldn't see a problem with it). If I go on iTunes, $9.99 buys me one album. Maybe. If I go on Spotify, $9.99 buys me all the albums. That's, by definition, devaluing the art. I just say we agree to disagree because neither of us are going to budge from our opinions on this.
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Post by kanimal on Nov 3, 2014 11:28:54 GMT -5
Seems like the wrong week to suggest Scott Borchetta doesn't know what he's doing...
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Post by Au$tin on Nov 3, 2014 11:30:46 GMT -5
"Welcome to New York" isn't bad, but it's not good either. So blah. "Blank Space" is so Gwen Stefani. I love it! "Style" (Lorde's favorite, btw) is really good. The production is crazy slick. "Out of the Woods" is growing on me, but I'm still not thrilled by it. "All You Had to Do Was Stay" is okay. The verses are stronger than the chorus. "I Wish You Would" is AMAZING! SMASH! :o "Bad Blood" is heavily influenced by Lorde, I can tell. Very much into this. It also has an Avril Lavigne-tinge to it. "Wildest Dreams" has that incredible production I've learned that at least one Swift song from every album will have. Gorgeous and spine chilling. "How You Get the Girl" sounds like it comes from Kiss (Carly Rae Jepsen). Really nice. "This Love" is awesome. I love the 80s ballad feel. "I Know Places" is okay. "Clean"'s production is fantastic. I really like this one. Immediate standouts: Blank Space, Style, I Wish You Would, Bad Blood, and Wildest Dreams (possibly my favorite upon first listen?) Solid album, but I'm still not sold on her new sound. That Taylor Swift charm isn't as strong and prevalent as it was in her past albums, most notably the flawless Speak Now. I like her pop sound, but at the same time, so many other artists are tackling these sounds and Taylor had a unique pop/country/AC blend all her own, and I'm really missing that from this album. So, I'm torn. I'm disappointed in the album for that reason, but she did give us killer pop songs. Still agree about "Welcome to New York." "Blank Space" is growing on me so much. "Style" is still great. Yeah, I love "Out of the Woods" now. Still agree with "Stay." Yeah, "I Wish You Would" isn't as great as I thought it was. "Bad Blood" has grown on me a lot too. Love it. "Wildest Dreams" is now my favorite. It's probably one of the best things she's ever done. Still agree with "Girl." "This Love" is so beautiful. Grows on me each time. Yeah, I fucking love "I Know Places" now. I feel the same about "Clean." Solid album, and I'm now very sold on her sound. That Taylor Swift charm is definitely there, it's just presented differently and takes a few listens to unearth it. ( Speak Now is still flawless.) This album is quickly growing on me. Still don't foresee it surpassing Speak Now as my favorite T-Swift album, but it probably will land as my second favorite. I still wish there was that country charm in there somewhere, but if she's delivering this quality of music without it, then I'm fine with the new sound. Slay a bit Taylor.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Nov 3, 2014 11:34:46 GMT -5
Also, how're you gonna go on about how you love New York, and then not do tour dates there? East Rutherford is not New York. This. It's almost comical lmfao. Do the fucking Garden, Taylor. smh
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Nov 3, 2014 11:37:58 GMT -5
Also, how're you gonna go on about how you love New York, and then not do tour dates there? East Rutherford is not New York. This. It's almost comical lmfao. Do the f**king Garden, Taylor. smh She could, but she'd have to do multiple dates to sell the same number of tickets she could sell for 1 day at MetLife. She could have been super hipster and done Barclay's though...
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Post by Joe1240 on Nov 3, 2014 11:38:03 GMT -5
Also, how're you gonna go on about how you love New York, and then not do tour dates there? East Rutherford is not New York. This. It's almost comical lmfao. Do the f**king Garden, Taylor. smh E! Online just mentioned this in a article about the tour. On Monday, the 24-year-old "Shake It Off" date announced The 1989 World Tour!, kicking off in Louisiana on May 20, 2015. The tour will hit North America and Europe before heading to Australia in December 2015. Oddly enough, though, the "Welcome to New York" singer and NYC tourism ambassador has no dates set (so far at least!) in her beloved new home.
The closest her 1989 World Tour comes to the city that never sleeps is a July 11 show at East Rutherford, N.J.'s Metlife Stadium. (Sorry, Manhattanites and Brooklyners: It's your turn to make the reverse commute to a concert!) www.eonline.com/news/594196/taylor-swift-announces-the-1989-world-tour-dates-bypasses-new-york?cmpid=sn-000000-twitterfeed-365-taylor_swift&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitterfeed_celebrities_taylor_swift&dlvrit=80774
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Post by theflying on Nov 3, 2014 11:42:11 GMT -5
Will she stop putting her music videos on YouTube too and only have them available for sale through iTunes? I dont see what the difference is. This. It does nothing to devalue the art. In fact, it helps people who don't have enough money to keep buying music to access it and enjoy it legally, the artists gets paid for it, and everything's fine. I honestly don't see why people are so butthurt about streaming taking over... I already bought the album. Twice. I'm still upset because I want her to succeed on the Billboard Hot 100 because I'm a big fan of her and I would like to see her succeed the highest amount possible, and also she gets more money with Spotify, so that's also a factor... I just don't see a reason for taking it off Spotify. You can agree to disagree with kanimal, but you can't have an argument where you're trying to have your cake and eat it, too. You say that a format that allows millions more people to have music they wouldn't have been able to own otherwise due to a lack of a money isn't devaluing art. That's an oxymoron. By definition, Spotify makes music cheaper by a DRASTIC amount. That "devalues" it. It comes with increased access, but we know how factually artists make infinitely less money from streaming than purchasing. So... There's nothing wrong with just saying you want Spotify supported because you get more music for cheap.
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Post by theflying on Nov 3, 2014 11:43:19 GMT -5
Also, how're you gonna go on about how you love New York, and then not do tour dates there? East Rutherford is not New York. This. It's almost comical lmfao. Do the f**king Garden, Taylor. smh I literally was rolling my eyes at a bunch of people telling me (someone from NJ that now lives in NYC) that East Rutherford is her NYC date. Denver, Colorado has two dates. The NY/NJ area can have one more date outside of East Rutherford. There must be some reason, but I don't get it.
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Post by surfy on Nov 3, 2014 11:47:33 GMT -5
This. It does nothing to devalue the art. In fact, it helps people who don't have enough money to keep buying music to access it and enjoy it legally, the artists gets paid for it, and everything's fine. I honestly don't see why people are so butthurt about streaming taking over... I already bought the album. Twice. I'm still upset because I want her to succeed on the Billboard Hot 100 because I'm a big fan of her and I would like to see her succeed the highest amount possible, and also she gets more money with Spotify, so that's also a factor... I just don't see a reason for taking it off Spotify. You can agree to disagree with kanimal, but you can't have an argument where you're trying to have your cake and eat it, too. You say that a format that allows millions more people to have music they wouldn't have been able to own otherwise due to a lack of a money isn't devaluing art. That's an oxymoron. By definition, Spotify makes music cheaper by a DRASTIC amount. That "devalues" it. It comes with increased access, but we know how factually artists make infinitely less money from streaming than purchasing. So... Okay, I still don't see a reason to fucking delete it off of Spotify. Lowering the price of music isn't really a reason, she's still a huge seller, she will make more money with Spotify, and honestly... it's just... stupid tbh.
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Post by surfy on Nov 3, 2014 11:48:34 GMT -5
And when I said devalue the art, I was thinking of another definition where it talks about lowering the importance, not monetary value...
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Nov 3, 2014 11:49:46 GMT -5
And when I said devalue the art, I was thinking of another definition where it talks about lowering the importance, not monetary value... People seem to conflate price and value a lot, which is unfortunate.
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Post by surfy on Nov 3, 2014 11:53:44 GMT -5
And when I said devalue the art, I was thinking of another definition where it talks about lowering the importance, not monetary value... People seem to conflate price and value a lot, which is unfortunate. Yeah, there are two definitions to devalue. And honestly, the money loss isn't as big of a deal as people would like to make it seem, when millions more people are listening to Spotify, so she's pretty much doubling her money with it... And if they are willing to sacrifice this extra money just to get a few more sales and a bunch of pissed off casual listeners, then that's honestly a stupid business move.
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