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Post by jferstler on May 12, 2014 12:33:05 GMT -5
According to USA Today "Home" off of Dolly's Parton's new album "Blue Smoke" is her next single. No word yet on an impact date. Songwriters: Dolly Parton, Kent Wells Label: Dolly Records/ Sony Masterworks
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Call me crazy but this is actually very radio friendly and if the stars aligned this could be a hit.
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 12, 2014 12:45:10 GMT -5
Wow. This is incredible. I am really excited for Blue Smoke, even more so now after hearing this song. I can't wait to buy the new album tomorrow!
As for this song being a hit, I wouldn't count on it given her age and current status as being off radio, but this song is very radio friendly, I agree. It would be awesome if this could at least sneak onto the lower region of the chart somehow like her recent duet with Kenny Rogers was able to do.
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Post by rsandcm1 on May 12, 2014 17:01:23 GMT -5
That had my toes-tapping the whole time, and it got me into listening to her older songs again as well. 'Blue Smoke' is also a great tune, so I might just go out and gets this album tomorrow. Here's hoping this song can squeeze into the bottom of the charts.
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Post by McCreerian on May 12, 2014 17:33:44 GMT -5
This would have been a #1 for Dolly if this was the late 80s or very early 90s. Too bad radio has more sexism and ageism on the inside more than it ever has in the genre's history!
I've had Dolly's CD since January when it came out in Australia and I ordered it from there. I'm getting the new US edition at Walmart tomorrow with 3 more tracks than the Australian one. This CD is incredible!
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Post by onebuffalo on May 12, 2014 17:38:19 GMT -5
This would have been a #1 for Dolly if this was the late 80s or very early 90s. Too bad radio has more sexism and ageism on the inside more than it ever has in the genre's history! I've had Dolly's CD since January when it came out in Australia and I ordered it from there. I'm getting the new US edition at Walmart tomorrow with 3 more tracks than the Australian one. This CD is incredible! I agree that it would have been a hit for Dolly Parton in the time period mentioned. However, looking at country music's past, how many 68 year old women were having hits? Reba McEntire will be 68 in 2023. Do you think she will have a hit that year?
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Post by McCreerian on May 12, 2014 17:43:04 GMT -5
This would have been a #1 for Dolly if this was the late 80s or very early 90s. Too bad radio has more sexism and ageism on the inside more than it ever has in the genre's history! I've had Dolly's CD since January when it came out in Australia and I ordered it from there. I'm getting the new US edition at Walmart tomorrow with 3 more tracks than the Australian one. This CD is incredible! I agree that it would have been a hit for Dolly Parton in the time period mentioned. However, looking at country music's past, how many 68 year old women were having hits? Reba McEntire will be 68 in 2023. Do you think she will have a hit that year? Reba couldn't even get played in 2011! Radio has been sexist/ageist toward Dolly since the mid 90s after she turned 50. Radio quit playing Reba after 50. That seems to be the max age for a woman. But radio is having problems playing women as young as their 20s and 30s these days. And ageism, well looking how hard George is working to have a hit with such a no brainer hit song rests that case. Radio has never given a woman in her 60s a hit...but hell maybe Miranda and Carrie will still be battling it out for women in the 2040s if radio doesn't give another woman a chance before then! KT Oslin is the only "sorta" exception to ageism but that was the late 80s, she was 46 when she had her first hit, but by 50 she was done on radio too. But radio today would never give a 46 year old woman her first hit.
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Post by onebuffalo on May 12, 2014 17:58:33 GMT -5
I agree that it would have been a hit for Dolly Parton in the time period mentioned. However, looking at country music's past, how many 68 year old women were having hits? Reba McEntire will be 68 in 2023. Do you think she will have a hit that year? Reba couldn't even get played in 2011! Radio has been sexist/ageist toward Dolly since the mid 90s after she turned 50. Radio quit playing Reba after 50. That seems to be the max age for a woman. But radio is having problems playing women as young as their 20s and 30s these days. And ageism, well looking how hard George is working to have a hit with such a no brainer hit song rests that case. Radio has never given a woman in her 60s a hit...but hell maybe Miranda and Carrie will still be battling it out for women in the 2040s if radio doesn't give another woman a chance before then! KT Oslin is the only "sorta" exception to ageism but that was the late 80s, she was 46 when she had her first hit, but by 50 she was done on radio too. But radio today would never give a 46 year old woman her first hit. Some of that I blame on poor singles choices from The Women I Am. After Turn On The Radio, they went with a Beyonce remake, If I Were A Boy (some trouble in that family I hear). Then they went with When Love Gets A Hold Of You, which should have charted higher than #40 and they closed the CD with Somebody's Chelsea (#44).
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Post by jferstler on May 12, 2014 18:38:29 GMT -5
When I say hit I'm not talking a number 1 but hopefully this can chart. This is a really catchy tune though, and I could see a close to top 40 peak if it ever gets off the ground.
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Post by McCreerian on May 12, 2014 18:43:01 GMT -5
Reba couldn't even get played in 2011! Radio has been sexist/ageist toward Dolly since the mid 90s after she turned 50. Radio quit playing Reba after 50. That seems to be the max age for a woman. But radio is having problems playing women as young as their 20s and 30s these days. And ageism, well looking how hard George is working to have a hit with such a no brainer hit song rests that case. Radio has never given a woman in her 60s a hit...but hell maybe Miranda and Carrie will still be battling it out for women in the 2040s if radio doesn't give another woman a chance before then! KT Oslin is the only "sorta" exception to ageism but that was the late 80s, she was 46 when she had her first hit, but by 50 she was done on radio too. But radio today would never give a 46 year old woman her first hit. Some of that I blame on poor singles choices from The Women I Am. After Turn On The Radio, they went with a Beyonce remake, If I Were A Boy (some trouble in that family I hear). Then they went with When Love Gets A Hold Of You, which should have charted higher than #40 and they closed the CD with Somebody's Chelsea (#44). I know what singles were on Reba's album and other than the Beyoncé song, the other 2 should have been top 20. Radio forgives men far easier than women if they release 1 clunker single, legend or not.
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Post by Zazie on May 12, 2014 20:45:18 GMT -5
I've heard the title song and it's wonderful. Unexpected and brilliant. Dolly has more creativity in her little finger (left hand) than almost anybody else has in their whole mind and body. I'd give a lot to see this song climb to the top 20. Can't happen, right?
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 13, 2014 17:38:44 GMT -5
She filmed a music video for this last month in Tennessee: www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2014/04/18/dolly-parton-new-album/7867791/On Wednesday, Parton rested while her team prepared for the video. That's when creative director for Dolly Parton Enterprises Steve Summars and Parton's wig master, Cheryl Riddle, picked up the already hectic pace.
Summars had to prepare 57 bedazzled dresses for Parton's video, and Riddle spent the better part of two days styling wigs and getting Parton's hair in order for the daylong shoot.
When Thursday arrived, the rehearsal space where the video was shot was divided into two scenes: a dressing-room area complete with a rhinestoned banjo and a mountain vista.
A stand-in Parton look-a-like helped the film crew set up scenes while Parton conducted television interviews in the dressing-room area. When the video crew was ready to resume shooting, Parton hollered for her niece, who helps her with her makeup, got some face powder and was back in front of the camera.
Several hours in, she broke for a quick lunch and then started filming again within a few minutes.
"Her work ethic, I've never worked with anybody like that," Nozell said. "When she approves something, she gives it a thousand percent, and she does it with grace. Even if she is tired, she never shows it to you. Anything that's done with Dolly, it's done with research, it's done with planning, it's done with strategy."
It's also done with a big ole East Tennessee smile.
Can't wait to see how it turns out! I always love her videos.
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Post by McCreerian on May 13, 2014 17:43:07 GMT -5
Dolly was sensational on Today Show and The Talk today. Tonight she is on the Tonight show! She's better than ever and still my biggest musical love and has been since I was 7! This is one hell of a great album! Love the Walmart bonus tracks!
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Post by sbp17 on May 13, 2014 18:02:45 GMT -5
I love this. There is no reason radio should not be playing this song. Very infectious and accessible. It's a country song about the country but with vivid imagery instead of tired beer bottle and riverbank cliches.
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Post by McCreerian on May 13, 2014 18:08:37 GMT -5
I love this. There is no reason radio should not be playing this song. Very infectious and accessible. It's a country song about the country but with vivid imagery instead of tired beer bottle and riverbank cliches. I have no doubt that if Miranda Lambert had recorded and sent this to radio, it'd fly to #1 and be nominated for Single/Song of the year. But being the legend, Dolly, radio is like Dolly who?
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Post by onebuffalo on May 13, 2014 18:19:42 GMT -5
I have no doubt that if Miranda Lambert had recorded and sent this to radio, it'd fly to #1 and be nominated for Single/Song of the year. But being the legend, Dolly, radio is like Dolly who? You are very over protective of this song and Dolly. Radio respects Dolly and all she has done for country music, but modern country radio is about the future and "new" artists. Dolly is 68. Unfourteny she is too old for modern country radio. But that's a fact of life. Each artist has their day in the sun and then move on. Some stay longer then others. There are radio stations that'll play this but it wont' do much on the chart and no one in their RIGHT mind wouldn't expect it too. If you don't like modern country music, stop listening to it and stop complaining. They are plenty of "oldie" country stations that player traditional music only I'm sure you'll like. I know there's one here in Vermont. You're right. However, if an artist is putting out a quality song, I take what Randy Travis said during the mid 1990s and let the public decide. An oldies station is NOT going to touch this particular Dolly Parton song. Yes, we all have the right to listen to what we want and I do respect that as well.
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Post by McCreerian on May 13, 2014 18:32:07 GMT -5
I have no doubt that if Miranda Lambert had recorded and sent this to radio, it'd fly to #1 and be nominated for Single/Song of the year. But being the legend, Dolly, radio is like Dolly who? You are very over protective of this song and Dolly. Radio respects Dolly and all she has done for country music, but modern country radio is about the future and "new" artists. Dolly is 68. UNFORTUNATELY (had to correct that for you) she is too old for modern country radio. But that's a fact of life. Each artist has their day in the sun and then move on. Some stay longer then others. There are radio stations that'll play this but it wont' do much on the chart and no one in their RIGHT mind wouldn't expect it too. If you don't like modern country music, stop listening to it and stop complaining. They are plenty of "oldie" country stations that player traditional music only I'm sure you'll like. I know there's one here in Vermont. Excuse me? I have every right to complain about modern radio and how it treats women and older artists. It's not being overprotective, it's voicing my opinion. I had the same one when radio rejected Reba's last 2 singles. I have the same opinion with the same horrible way radio is making George Strait climb like he's a new artist with his current single. I do like some of modern Country and I have no problem with some bro-Country and such being mixed in. But to leave females out of the top 30 (unless they are one of "3") and leave out quality songs just cause they are from a legend is just an insult to Country music fans in general. It is only in the last 10 years or so that radio had had this problem at this high of level. Buffalocountry mentioned Randy Travis, heck, they give him a #1 in the mid 2000s after years of ignoring his music. But don't you dare tell me to stop complaining, I'll voice my opinion on here whether YOU like it or not, and if you don't like it, YOU stop reading my posts!
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Post by onebuffalo on May 13, 2014 18:39:08 GMT -5
You are very over protective of this song and Dolly. Radio respects Dolly and all she has done for country music, but modern country radio is about the future and "new" artists. Dolly is 68. UNFORTUNATELY (had to correct that for you) she is too old for modern country radio. But that's a fact of life. Each artist has their day in the sun and then move on. Some stay longer then others. There are radio stations that'll play this but it wont' do much on the chart and no one in their RIGHT mind wouldn't expect it too. If you don't like modern country music, stop listening to it and stop complaining. They are plenty of "oldie" country stations that player traditional music only I'm sure you'll like. I know there's one here in Vermont. Excuse me? I have every right to complain about modern radio and how it treats women and older artists. It's not being overprotective, it's voicing my opinion. I had the same one when radio rejected Reba's last 2 singles. I have the same opinion with the same horrible way radio is making George Strait climb like he's a new artist with his current single. I do like some of modern Country and I have no problem with some bro-Country and such being mixed in. But to leave females out of the top 30 (unless they are one of "3") and leave out quality songs just cause they are from a legend is just an insult to Country music fans in general. It is only in the last 10 years or so that radio had had this problem at this high of level. Buffalocountry mentioned Randy Travis, heck, they give him a #1 in the mid 2000s after years of ignoring his music. But don't you dare tell me to stop complaining, I'll voice my opinion on here whether YOU like it or not, and if you don't like it, YOU stop reading my posts! I like you, ctryfan1980. However, telling people NOT to read your posts will not win any support here. There was a reason for you to post what you did and others simply responded to it.
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Post by McCreerian on May 13, 2014 18:43:45 GMT -5
Excuse me? I have every right to complain about modern radio and how it treats women and older artists. It's not being overprotective, it's voicing my opinion. I had the same one when radio rejected Reba's last 2 singles. I have the same opinion with the same horrible way radio is making George Strait climb like he's a new artist with his current single. I do like some of modern Country and I have no problem with some bro-Country and such being mixed in. But to leave females out of the top 30 (unless they are one of "3") and leave out quality songs just cause they are from a legend is just an insult to Country music fans in general. It is only in the last 10 years or so that radio had had this problem at this high of level. Buffalocountry mentioned Randy Travis, heck, they give him a #1 in the mid 2000s after years of ignoring his music. But don't you dare tell me to stop complaining, I'll voice my opinion on here whether YOU like it or not, and if you don't like it, YOU stop reading my posts! I like you, ctryfan1980. However, telling people NOT to read your posts will not win any support here. There was a reason for you to post what you did and others simply responded to it. If a poster tells me to stop complaining (which is me giving my opinion) then I will tell the poster to stop reading what I say. It goes hand in hand. I've been posting here long before Brian has been, and I'll be damned if I will take that! edit...btw I know I have plenty of support on this website already, so I'm not losing sleep over that!
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Post by 14887fan on May 13, 2014 18:50:40 GMT -5
2 things: 1) This song is fantastic and it's a shame that it'll undoubtedly flop on radio. I'm happy that Dolly still releases to Country radio, nonetheless, since I'm sure she's well aware that she'll go absolutely nowhere on the chart (see: "You Can't Make Old Friends", the hit that should've been). 2) McCreerian Express your opinion as much as you want and as loud as you want. You have every right to say what you want on a communal message board. If anyone has an issue with your opinion and doesn't want to address it maturely, they can take their issues elsewhere and complain to themselves in the corner that they sit in at home. I have no doubt that if Miranda Lambert had recorded and sent this to radio, it'd fly to #1 and be nominated for Single/Song of the year. But being the legend, Dolly, radio is like Dolly who? You are very over protective of this song and Dolly. Radio respects Dolly and all she has done for country music, but modern country radio is about the future and "new" artists. Dolly is 68. Unfourteny she is too old for modern country radio. But that's a fact of life. Each artist has their day in the sun and then move on. Some stay longer then others. There are radio stations that'll play this but it wont' do much on the chart and no one in their RIGHT mind wouldn't expect it too. If you don't like modern country music, stop listening to it and stop complaining. They are plenty of "oldie" country stations that player traditional music only I'm sure you'll like. I know there's one here in Vermont. If you don't like someone's defensiveness of an artist or song, stop reading their comments and stop complaining.
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Post by matty005 on May 13, 2014 19:27:19 GMT -5
You are very over protective of this song and Dolly. Radio respects Dolly and all she has done for country music, but modern country radio is about the future and "new" artists. Dolly is 68. UNFORTUNATELY (had to correct that for you) she is too old for modern country radio. But that's a fact of life. Each artist has their day in the sun and then move on. Some stay longer then others. There are radio stations that'll play this but it wont' do much on the chart and no one in their RIGHT mind wouldn't expect it too. If you don't like modern country music, stop listening to it and stop complaining. They are plenty of "oldie" country stations that player traditional music only I'm sure you'll like. I know there's one here in Vermont. Excuse me? I have every right to complain about modern radio and how it treats women and older artists. It's not being overprotective, it's voicing my opinion. I had the same one when radio rejected Reba's last 2 singles. I have the same opinion with the same horrible way radio is making George Strait climb like he's a new artist with his current single. I do like some of modern Country and I have no problem with some bro-Country and such being mixed in. But to leave females out of the top 30 (unless they are one of "3") and leave out quality songs just cause they are from a legend is just an insult to Country music fans in general. It is only in the last 10 years or so that radio had had this problem at this high of level. Buffalocountry mentioned Randy Travis, heck, they give him a #1 in the mid 2000s after years of ignoring his music. But don't you dare tell me to stop complaining, I'll voice my opinion on here whether YOU like it or not, and if you don't like it, YOU stop reading my posts! I think it's a shame that country radio misses out on playing older women as well (Reba is one of my all time favorite artists), Martina, Dolly, etc, but most have come to terms with it. I know it's going to be hard for older artists (both male and female - look at how even George and Alan can't have automatic hits anymore) to be relevant on the charts again. It's a fact of (radio) life. And while you're more than welcome to voice your opinion (and for what it's worth I don't think it was complaining) I think what maybe Brian is saying is that no matter what happens this isn't going to change. To me, it's like people not understanding why the NBA isn't having Michael Jordan play or why Seinfeld is not on TV anymore. Yes, they were legends in their time but unfortunately nothing/no one can be relevant forever.
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Post by McCreerian on May 13, 2014 19:51:11 GMT -5
Excuse me? I have every right to complain about modern radio and how it treats women and older artists. It's not being overprotective, it's voicing my opinion. I had the same one when radio rejected Reba's last 2 singles. I have the same opinion with the same horrible way radio is making George Strait climb like he's a new artist with his current single. I do like some of modern Country and I have no problem with some bro-Country and such being mixed in. But to leave females out of the top 30 (unless they are one of "3") and leave out quality songs just cause they are from a legend is just an insult to Country music fans in general. It is only in the last 10 years or so that radio had had this problem at this high of level. Buffalocountry mentioned Randy Travis, heck, they give him a #1 in the mid 2000s after years of ignoring his music. But don't you dare tell me to stop complaining, I'll voice my opinion on here whether YOU like it or not, and if you don't like it, YOU stop reading my posts! I think it's a shame that country radio misses out on playing older women as well (Reba is one of my all time favorite artists), Martina, Dolly, etc, but most have come to terms with it. I know it's going to be hard for older artists (both male and female - look at how even George and Alan can't have automatic hits anymore) to be relevant on the charts again. It's a fact of (radio) life. And while you're more than welcome to voice your opinion (and for what it's worth I don't think it was complaining) I think what maybe Brian is saying is that no matter what happens this isn't going to change. To me, it's like people not understanding why the NBA isn't having Michael Jordan play or why Seinfeld is not on TV anymore. Yes, they were legends in their time but unfortunately nothing/no one can be relevant forever. I agree. My initial point was if artists like Carrie and Miranda, Country radio's 2 current queens, released some of the songs Dolly, Martina, Reba, even Sara (who is struggling), then they would have #1s with the same songs but since the legends are releasing them, the songs fail. I don't expect Dolly, Reba, or Martina ever to have a top 20 again.
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Post by jferstler on May 13, 2014 21:43:32 GMT -5
You see the problem is radio thinks they know exactly what the listeners want to hear and the fact of the matter is they don't. If radio gave this song a chance I'm sure people would like it but it won't even get a chance. I honestly think this could sneak into the charts if promoted right, because this isn't slow or sad song that most older artist seem to put out. This is uptempo and paints a very vivid picture. I don't like the tone being used in this thread either. People are free to complain about what ever they wish, and McCreerian wasn't complaining just stating the truth, this song could be a big hit on today's radio if done by a younger artist. Their have been several stellar releases by aging artist that have failed to find any success on radio recently: Footprints On The Moon - Tracy Lawrence The Route That I Took- Sammy Kershaw Cant Put My Finger On It- Sammy Kershaw Lie- Tracy Lawrence Blue Ridge Mountain Song- Alan Jackson I Wish I Still Smoked Cigarettes- Ronnie Dunn ( His Whole Album is great) Imagine That- Don Williams/Keith Urban Tonight I'm Playing Possum- Randy Travis/ Joe Nichols Peace Sign- Jo De Messina Can You Do This- Neal McCoy Lonestar has new music out too. I thiNk if people got the chance to hear this tuff on radio they'd like some of it but they only get to hear the same 15 songs everyday.
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Post by HolidayGuy on May 13, 2014 21:46:03 GMT -5
I like this. But, it is Dolly, and she's pretty reliable for good stuff.
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Post by onebuffalo on May 14, 2014 14:14:01 GMT -5
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Post by someguy on May 14, 2014 19:48:30 GMT -5
I love how she's outselling a lot of the generic artists who are pushed number one at radio these days.
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 15, 2014 0:56:19 GMT -5
That is a great first week total! I don't know how much Better Day opened with, but I imagine it's quite a bit stronger as it should easily eclipse the chart peaks obtained by that album. In fact, this might actually wind up to be the highest charting studio release of Parton's career on the Billboard 200 chart (where her previous best is #11 with 9 to 5 and Odd Jobs). She'll only manage to come it at #2 on the country album chart due to Rascal Flatts, but this album could be her first Top 10 on the overall chart.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2014 1:54:02 GMT -5
I love how she's outselling a lot of the generic artists who are pushed number one at radio these days. I was thinking the same thing. So many labels push new artists' songs to radio for 30-40 weeks for a top 10 or #1 hit, but when the album gets released, it might only sell 15-30k, if that. And then we have a new set of Dolly music (with no radio exposure) that is clobbering the opening week sales for such artists like Jerrod Niemann, Tyler Farr, Thomas Rhett, Eric Paslay, etc. Obviously the digital single has a lot to do with newer artists' albums not selling as much (and the singles selling more), but a lot of older artists who have been pushed off radio can still do better in sales than some of the popular radio artists of today, and I find that nice to see.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2014 7:27:09 GMT -5
That is a great first week total! I don't know how much Better Day opened with, but I imagine it's quite a bit stronger as it should easily eclipse the chart peaks obtained by that album. In fact, this might actually wind up to be the highest charting studio release of Parton's career on the Billboard 200 chart (where her previous best is #11 with 9 to 5 and Odd Jobs). She'll only manage to come it at #2 on the country album chart due to Rascal Flatts, but this album could be her first Top 10 on the overall chart. Better Day "only" sold 10,700 copies during its first week. I bought the new album yesterday and was impressed. It is truly great. I am even more impressed, however, with those debut predictions. The one thing that could make this even better would be for "Home" to chart.
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Post by JCMF3 on May 15, 2014 7:44:56 GMT -5
Country radio is sexist?
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