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Post by dm2081 on Sept 2, 2014 18:17:52 GMT -5
^ Blake Shelton is traditional country? For the most part he is more of a traditional style vocalist, like on songs "Mine Would Be You" and "Neon Light". Obviously some songs aren't though.
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 3, 2014 9:39:10 GMT -5
^ Blake Shelton is traditional country? Austin, The Baby, and Goodbye Time. You tell me.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Sept 3, 2014 11:54:55 GMT -5
^ Blake Shelton is traditional country? Austin, The Baby, and Goodbye Time. You tell me. Not to derail the thread but those songs were released in 2001 , 2002, & 2005. Blake has let it be known he doesn't consider himself a traditional country singer. Dipping back a decade plus to find proof seems a bit desperate to say the least.
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 3, 2014 14:30:50 GMT -5
Austin, The Baby, and Goodbye Time. You tell me. Not to derail the thread but those songs were released in 2001 , 2002, & 2005. Blake has let it be known he doesn't consider himself a traditional country singer. Dipping back a decade plus to find proof seems a bit desperate to say the least. Well, the question was 'Is Blake Shelton traditional?' Does it matter when he was or wasn't?
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 3, 2014 14:40:16 GMT -5
Not to derail the thread but those songs were released in 2001 , 2002, & 2005. Blake has let it be known he doesn't consider himself a traditional country singer. Dipping back a decade plus to find proof seems a bit desperate to say the least. Well, the question was 'Is Blake Shelton traditional?' Does it matter when he was or wasn't? "Is" traditional means the present. "Was" traditional means the past. Blake was more traditional from 2001 through 2006. Right now he isn't that traditional, at least with his last couple albums. Anyway, I agree that Blake is and was more traditional than Sam is now.
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 3, 2014 14:45:26 GMT -5
Well, the question was 'Is Blake Shelton traditional?' Does it matter when he was or wasn't? "Is" traditional means the present. "Was" traditional means the past. Blake was more traditional from 2001 through 2006. Right now he isn't that traditional, at least with his last couple albums. Anyway, I agree that Blake is and was more traditional than Sam is now. O.K.. Does that mean George Strait was not traditional when he had We Really Shouldn't Be Doing This out in 1998 but the single before that was True (traditional) and the one after, Meanwhile was as well? I believe overall that Blake Shelton has been traditional to a point (not like Strait), so it really shouldn't matter what time period we are talking about unless someone asked if it was RIGHT NOW.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Sept 3, 2014 14:51:37 GMT -5
Not to derail the thread but those songs were released in 2001 , 2002, & 2005. Blake has let it be known he doesn't consider himself a traditional country singer. Dipping back a decade plus to find proof seems a bit desperate to say the least. Well, the question was 'Is Blake Shelton traditional?' Does it matter when he was or wasn't? Yeah. Perfectly logical. <shew>
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 3, 2014 14:55:13 GMT -5
"Is" traditional means the present. "Was" traditional means the past. Blake was more traditional from 2001 through 2006. Right now he isn't that traditional, at least with his last couple albums. Anyway, I agree that Blake is and was more traditional than Sam is now. O.K.. Does that mean George Strait was not traditional when he had We Really Shouldn't Be Doing This out in 1998 but the single before that was True (traditional) and the one after, Meanwhile was as well? I believe overall that Blake Shelton has been traditional to a point (not like Strait), so it really shouldn't matter what time period we are talking about unless someone asked if it was RIGHT NOW. The problem here is that "Sure Be Cool If You Did", "Boys Round Here", I'll Just Hold On", "God Gave Me You", etc. are much further away from traditional than "We Really Shouldn't Be Doing This", "Meanwhile", "It Just Comes Natural" or almost anything by George that wasn't his usual "Traditional". The original question by country374 was Blake is traditional? To me that's now. If the poster said that Blake's been traditional, was traditional, he was traditional, has he ever been more traditional?, etc. then I would agree. Obviously Blake still has songs like "My Eyes", and now "Neon Light" that give me hope that he's drifting back to his first couple albums, so he is more traditional than other current artists, but that's a different argument and discussion. Anyway, I believe this is the Sam Hunt thread, so I don't really want to go on about Blake here and leave it at that. I do understand where you're coming from though. :)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 20:07:28 GMT -5
"Is" traditional means the present. "Was" traditional means the past. Blake was more traditional from 2001 through 2006. Right now he isn't that traditional, at least with his last couple albums. Anyway, I agree that Blake is and was more traditional than Sam is now. O.K.. Does that mean George Strait was not traditional when he had We Really Shouldn't Be Doing This out in 1998 but the single before that was True (traditional) and the one after, Meanwhile was as well? I believe overall that Blake Shelton has been traditional to a point (not like Strait), so it really shouldn't matter what time period we are talking about unless someone asked if it was RIGHT NOW. This is getting off-topic. Let's not carry on this conversation in this thread, please.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 22:12:06 GMT -5
I can't believe this is even a conversation.
This song is not country, end of story. It doesn't matter "what country is" or "who says what's country." It's just not.
In my opinion, songs need (at the very least) one of four very simple things to be a country song: drawl in the vocals, twangy acoustics, a sliding steel guitar, or a fiddle. If you have all four of those things you are most definitely a redneck (kidding, sort of). If you have even just ONE of those things (Chase Rice, I'm talking to you), you can probably call yourself country on today's radio.
Bottom line is, Sam Hunt possesses none of these qualities. I can't poop out an apple and say it's country music.
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Post by matty005 on Sept 3, 2014 22:35:39 GMT -5
I can't believe this is even a conversation. This song is not country, end of story. It doesn't matter "what country is" or "who says what's country." It's just not. In my opinion, songs need (at the very least) one of four very simple things to be a country song: drawl in the vocals, twangy acoustics, a sliding steel guitar, or a fiddle. If you have all four of those things you are most definitely a redneck (kidding, sort of). If you have even just ONE of those things (Chase Rice, I'm talking to you), you can probably call yourself country on today's radio. Bottom line is, Sam Hunt possesses none of these qualities. I can't poop out an apple and say it's country music. It doesn't matter, "what country is" and then you have a list of what makes something country.
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Post by nncountrykid on Sept 3, 2014 23:02:13 GMT -5
At the end of the day, Sam Hunt can write a million different kinds of songs and none of them will sound as terrible as the whining in this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2014 7:45:36 GMT -5
At the end of the day, Sam Hunt can write a million different kinds of songs and none of them will sound as terrible as the whining in this thread. ;) I'm disappointed that everyone is so upset by the controversy here. After all, this is a message board isn't it? An open forum for people to display and discuss their opinions. The fact of the matter (to me) is that the beauty of music is in the eye of the beholder (or in this case, the ear). I like country music, and I don't liken this song to country songs. I'll be honest, I find myself humming along to it, and I do think Sam is a talented writer. But I don't think it's up to corporate radio to decide how to classify the music that I listen to. Genres are genres for a reason and I imagine one day Sam will make the switch to pop radio, and I wish him the best of luck there.
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Post by kml567 on Sept 7, 2014 20:40:11 GMT -5
"Leave The Night On" is officially #1 on XM The Highway's Country Countdown this week!!
I wonder if XM Highway will play a new Sam Hunt single while waiting for terrestrial radio to catch up? It only took 13 weeks to reach its peak on Satellite radio, but it's gonna take 25-30 weeks for terrestrial radio. UMG should consider "Breakup in a Small Town" as a promo single on XM to fill the timing gap. The Highway has played plenty of hip-hop style songs in the past, so this may actually work.
I know UMG/Hunt have already penciled-in "Take Your Time" as the 2nd single, but the strong word-of-mouth iTunes sales of "BUIAST" cannot be ignored. Sending it to XM-radio only may be a good way to test whether country listeners are ready for such a game-changer sounding song. If it doesn't test well, UMG can still roll out the originally planned 2nd single ("Take Your Time") to both Satellite and terrestrial radio in January 2015.
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Post by Green Baron on Sept 7, 2014 20:41:29 GMT -5
and here I was clicking on the link thinking that Sam Smith had released a new song...
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Sept 7, 2014 21:00:19 GMT -5
Just thought that I'd share that this is easily one of my favorite songs on radio right now and while I agree that it's not the most traditionally sounding song on radio right now, I do think the song lyrically is pretty country. Yes, it leans towards bro-country at points during the song, but the play-on words of the title and the ongoing imagery of the night (buzzin like a streetlight) are actually some pretty solid songwriting in my opinion, not to mention this is catchy as hell. I do think its way overproduced though. The first time I heard this song was the version from his previous EP and I think the production on that is absolutely perfect, but you can't really blame newcomers at all for having their music sound more overproduced and poppy as I'm sure record labels are pushing most artists in that direction because its proven to be successful over the last couple years.
It'll be interesting to hear more from Sam when his album comes out. I'm really digging everything on his EP, although I won't defend "Break Up In A Small Town" about being country like I did with LTNO... (I still like it though)
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Post by Kentucky25 on Sept 7, 2014 21:06:12 GMT -5
Just thought that I'd share that this is easily one of my favorite songs on radio right now and while I agree that it's not the most traditionally sounding song on radio right now, I do think the song lyrically is pretty country. Yes, it leans towards bro-country at points during the song, but the play-on words of the title and the ongoing imagery of the night (buzzin like a streetlight) are actually some pretty solid songwriting in my opinion, not to mention this is catchy as hell. I do think its way overproduced though. The first time I heard this song was the version from his previous EP and I think the production on that is absolutely perfect, but you can't really blame newcomers at all for having their music sound more overproduced and poppy as I'm sure record labels are pushing most artists in that direction because its proven to be successful over the last couple years. It'll be interesting to hear more from Sam when his album comes out. I'm really digging everything on his EP, although I won't defend "Break Up In A Small Town" about being country like I did with LTNO... (I still like it though) "Break Up in a Small Town" has become my guilty pleasure, while it's what I guess you would call "dubstep" (not sure if that's correct usage of that genre), the lyrics are pretty "Country". I find myself doing some uncoordinated, country boy dancing in my car when it comes on my iPod lol.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Sept 7, 2014 21:11:06 GMT -5
Just thought that I'd share that this is easily one of my favorite songs on radio right now and while I agree that it's not the most traditionally sounding song on radio right now, I do think the song lyrically is pretty country. Yes, it leans towards bro-country at points during the song, but the play-on words of the title and the ongoing imagery of the night (buzzin like a streetlight) are actually some pretty solid songwriting in my opinion, not to mention this is catchy as hell. I do think its way overproduced though. The first time I heard this song was the version from his previous EP and I think the production on that is absolutely perfect, but you can't really blame newcomers at all for having their music sound more overproduced and poppy as I'm sure record labels are pushing most artists in that direction because its proven to be successful over the last couple years. It'll be interesting to hear more from Sam when his album comes out. I'm really digging everything on his EP, although I won't defend "Break Up In A Small Town" about being country like I did with LTNO... (I still like it though) "Break Up in a Small Town" has become my guilty pleasure, while it's what I guess you would call "dubstep" (not sure if that's correct usage of that genre), the lyrics are pretty "Country". I find myself doing some uncoordinated, country boy dancing in my car when it comes on my iPod lol. While its not quite Skrillex-level dubstep, the production is definitely more leaning towards that than anything country. You're right about the lyrics though. All the songs on his EP have been my jams over the past couple weeks. "House Party" and "Ex to See" are great as well. I'm really rooting for this guy because somehow he's made me actually consistently really like music that is "today's country", which I can't say any other artist that falls into that category (FLG, Luke, Brantley, etc.) has done for me yet.
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Post by hosssulpizio on Sept 7, 2014 21:18:36 GMT -5
Sam Hunt is a genius!! Yes "Leave The Night On" may not sound very Country but you have to admit that it is a fun song. I remember when Sam Hunt was unsigned last year and was getting airplay from The Highway. So glad he's signed to MCA Nashville!
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 18, 2014 13:04:39 GMT -5
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Post by K. on Sept 20, 2014 6:16:15 GMT -5
I love this song and think Sam Hunt is a great artist. I love that he brings into country some new elements.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 16:38:18 GMT -5
Congrats to Sam for his gold. I admit I have always been a big critic. I am coming around to this song, and while I have never hated it (I don't think), I have learned to tolerate it. It's a pretty good melody and obviously Sam is a good songwriter. I figured I'd give a shot to the other three songs on his EP before I wrote him off for good. What was I thinking?
"Ex To See" sounds like the neglected love-child of Ne-Yo and Fall Out Boy. Yeah, picture that.
If you told me that "House Party" was a One Direction song, I would believe you. In fact, if you told me it WASN'T a One Direction song, I probably wouldn't believe you.
"Break Up in a Small Town" actually has a catchy chorus but, damn, if I ever heard a song written for Drake, that was it. "But now it's like these county lines *HIT IT DRAKE* closin' in on me."
Here's to hoping his next single has some shred of country basis and if not, I wish him the best of luck following in Taylor Swift's footsteps.
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Post by rsmatto on Sept 29, 2014 11:40:37 GMT -5
Congrats to Sam for his gold. I admit I have always been a big critic. I am coming around to this song, and while I have never hated it (I don't think), I have learned to tolerate it. It's a pretty good melody and obviously Sam is a good songwriter. I figured I'd give a shot to the other three songs on his EP before I wrote him off for good. What was I thinking? "Ex To See" sounds like the neglected love-child of Ne-Yo and Fall Out Boy. Yeah, picture that. If you told me that "House Party" was a One Direction song, I would believe you. In fact, if you told me it WASN'T a One Direction song, I probably wouldn't believe you. "Break Up in a Small Town" actually has a catchy chorus but, damn, if I ever heard a song written for Drake, that was it. "But now it's like these county lines *HIT IT DRAKE* closin' in on me." Here's to hoping his next single has some shred of country basis and if not, I wish him the best of luck following in Taylor Swift's footsteps. The album has loads of potential singles, each of them certain to anger any traditionalist who calls songs from a decade ago "traditional." The production is where he clearly has those R&B/Pop influences bleed through. It's going to be an interesting case. I think he's a huge game changing 'mainstream country' star but I doubt "Break Up In A Small Town" or "Take Your Time" will be singles yet. However, one that's going to be an absolute monster is "Single For The Summer." In addition to blending electronic melodies a la MGMT, the song has a lot of steel guitar used in the mix, it's the lead melodic instrument (even getting featured instrumental). It is, to me, a way to have steel guitar still be in mainstream country stuff. It's innovative. That being said, people will call it a "POP song." Honestly "Raised On It" and "Make You Miss Me" would be the least 'feather-ruffling' songs to release nationally (I know "Raised On It" was his first SiriusXM single and the song that got him his deal). That being said, I think "Single For The Summer" might be the best second single and it certainly will be unique amongst everything else.
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Post by ryankentm on Sept 29, 2014 14:31:19 GMT -5
I was at his concert with Kip Moore this past Thursday in New York City and he announced that "Take Your Time" is his next single. And be prepared, he raps the verses (the chorus is sung).
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Post by rsmatto on Sept 29, 2014 14:45:00 GMT -5
I was at his concert with Kip Moore this past Thursday in New York City and he announced that "Take Your Time" is his next single. And be prepared, he raps the verses (the chorus is sung). I can see that as a single and he doesn't 'rap' the verses, he talks. Rap to me is fast and rhythmic. So while the verses are a big rhythmic in places, It's just not Rap. It's more like Beachin' or Boys Round Here than Big Smo or Colt Ford. That being said, I'd be surprised they wouldn't try one more 'normal' single first.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 16:52:25 GMT -5
I just don't seem to understand the words "wouldn't be singles yet" and "people will call it pop." If people will call it pop, why isn't it? I don't understand why labels and radio need to shove things down our throats. The corporate side of it is very unfortunate and I feel like eventually the pop country songs will be moved over to pop radio because people just won't want to hear them on country stations.
If you're telling me that "new country" is supposed to sound like pop music did ten years ago, then what is country going to sound like in another ten years? The way pop music sounds today? One day there will be a breaking point. It's just a matter of when.
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Post by rsmatto on Sept 29, 2014 18:05:20 GMT -5
I just don't seem to understand the words "wouldn't be singles yet" and "people will call it pop." If people will call it pop, why isn't it? I don't understand why labels and radio need to shove things down our throats. The corporate side of it is very unfortunate and I feel like eventually the pop country songs will be moved over to pop radio because people just won't want to hear them on country stations. If you're telling me that "new country" is supposed to sound like pop music did ten years ago, then what is country going to sound like in another ten years? The way pop music sounds today? One day there will be a breaking point. It's just a matter of when. Well, when it's available for listening, you'll hear "Single For The Summer" with a very pop-influenced sound but the solo/minute-plus outro is all steel guitars (albeit mixed with percussive loops). It proves to me they can incorporate 'traditional' instruments in modern/new sounds and make music that's relevant. If you're looking for mainstream country music to return to "three chords and the truth," that day ended (largely) in the 2000s.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 29, 2014 18:26:57 GMT -5
I can see that as a single and he doesn't 'rap' the verses, he talks. Rap to me is fast and rhythmic. So while the verses are a big rhythmic in places, It's just not Rap. Saying rap is 'fast' is like saying all country music is 'slow.' I haven't heard the song to comment on whether it's rap or not to my ears, but the recent handful of country songs that have gotten flack for maybe being rap don't sound anything like the talking songs of country music past. Like there's a pretty decided difference between "Dirt Road Anthem" and George Strait in (parts of) songs like "I'll Always Remember You" or "Give It Away."
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Post by rsmatto on Sept 29, 2014 18:32:53 GMT -5
I can see that as a single and he doesn't 'rap' the verses, he talks. Rap to me is fast and rhythmic. So while the verses are a big rhythmic in places, It's just not Rap. Saying rap is 'fast' is like saying all country music is 'slow.' I haven't heard the song to comment on whether it's rap or not to my ears, but the recent handful of country songs that have gotten flack for maybe being rap don't sound anything like the talking songs of country music past. Like there's a pretty decided difference between "Dirt Road Anthem" and George Strait in (parts of) songs like "I'll Always Remember You" or "Give It Away." Oh, I know that. My whole point was that songs that I mentioned before aren't "Rap" but fall more under some of the talking songs ("Devil Went Down To Georgia," "Amos Moses") history of songs, as does Sam's "Break Up In A Small Town" and "Take Your Time." Honestly, Both of these are sonically 'different' for radio, the former more "dub step/hip hop" melodically while the latter feels like a Daughtry song in the chorus. The first verse of it even feels like a Corey Smith type of song from a while back.
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Post by kml567 on Sept 29, 2014 21:07:10 GMT -5
What's the tempo for "Single For The Summer"? Is it at least mid-tempo? I'm hoping for a summer-y song as the title suggests.
I got a bit nervous when Sam announced "Take Your Time" as the next radio single. That's a slow tempo song and we all know it's much more difficult to get radio airplay when the song is slow even though the lyrics are beautifully written. I think he needs at least a mid-tempo as a 2nd single to avoid losing all the momentum he's got now.
The only slow song that might work is "Speakers". I went to Sam's concert and the women went absolutely crazy when he sang that song. This probably got the best crowd response among his non-radio singles.
I assume the new single won't be released to radio until January, so UMG/Hunt's management should have plenty of time to analyze the sales stats from iTunes and get feedback from radio PDs. I'm hoping they realize there are smarter choices than "Take Your Time" as the 2nd single.
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