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Post by rjz on Dec 12, 2014 9:02:59 GMT -5
Dear Florida Georgia Line: Would you please pay more attention/change your mind set on your lyrics....just a teeny bit? Your songs are infectious, ear worms and really catch my attention....until I pay attention to your (at times) unoriginal, and (often) demeaning, unnecessarily lecherous lyrics. Thankfully my station edited 'get laid' out and I can ignore pink umbrella since it is said with no lecherous inflection so I can actually enjoy this song a bit. It wouldn't take a huge change to be a bit more, oh I don't know.......subtle? to get some people to buy/enjoy your music. Yes, yes-I know you don't need many more people to buy your music, they already do....just asking my own little personal wish list. Sincerely, A frequent radio listener who 'wants' to not have to hit the button to switch to IPOD so frequently
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Post by downsouth on Dec 14, 2014 10:35:42 GMT -5
All of their songs are so catchy and fun. The only one I didn't like was Dirt. Hope this gets to #1.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Dec 14, 2014 15:54:19 GMT -5
The only one I didn't like was This Is How We Roll because its melody wasn't nearly as catchy. I can forgive them for their party anthems since they at least seem to have a much better than average ear for hooks and good production to mask enough of their faults for me (which is the same reason I can at least enjoy this song; it's catchy and well produced if nothing else). And the catchiness and good production just weren't there for me on TIHWR.
However, I think that Stay and especially Dirt proved that they are capable of pulling off a decent ballad.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 21:26:30 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me, but these guys seem to have cooled off a bit. This is no doubt doing very well, but it just hasn't exploded like their past singles have. "Sun Daze" has breezed into the top 10 with relative ease, but there seems to be very little fanfare here. It's selling just over 20,000 a week right now, and total sales are at 222,000. It should go Gold fairly easily, but it doesn't look like it's going to come even close to Platinum status.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Dec 18, 2014 22:00:59 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me, but these guys seem to have cooled off a bit. This is no doubt doing very well, but it just hasn't exploded like their past singles have. "Sun Daze" has breezed into the top 10 with relative ease, but there seems to be very little fanfare here. It's selling just over 20,000 a week right now, and total sales are at 222,000. It should go Gold fairly easily, but it doesn't look like it's going to come even close to Platinum status. Honestly, I do think the season timing has a bit to do with this. I think this would be selling better had it been released in the spring/summer.
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Post by zjames on Dec 18, 2014 22:07:46 GMT -5
I've been thinking that maybe they chose to release this in the winter to country music with a remix in the works for a Pop push in the spring.
That's just my gut feeling.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 22:47:49 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me, but these guys seem to have cooled off a bit. This is no doubt doing very well, but it just hasn't exploded like their past singles have. "Sun Daze" has breezed into the top 10 with relative ease, but there seems to be very little fanfare here. It's selling just over 20,000 a week right now, and total sales are at 222,000. It should go Gold fairly easily, but it doesn't look like it's going to come even close to Platinum status. Honestly, I do think the season timing has a bit to do with this. I think this would be selling better had it been released in the spring/summer. A late summer release (and winter peak) didn't stop "Cruise" from becoming huge though. Obviously I didn't expect "Sun Daze" to blow up like that, nor do I expect FGL to replicate that success ever again, but "Sun Daze" is looking like it will be the least successful of their 7 singles so far.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Dec 18, 2014 22:54:09 GMT -5
Honestly, I do think the season timing has a bit to do with this. I think this would be selling better had it been released in the spring/summer. A late summer release (and winter peak) didn't stop "Cruise" from becoming huge though. Obviously I didn't expect "Sun Daze" to blow up like that, nor do I expect FGL to replicate that success ever again, but "Sun Daze" is looking like it will be the least successful of their 7 singles so far. Eh, "Cruise" is the exception to every single chart rule IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 23:34:44 GMT -5
A late summer release (and winter peak) didn't stop "Cruise" from becoming huge though. Obviously I didn't expect "Sun Daze" to blow up like that, nor do I expect FGL to replicate that success ever again, but "Sun Daze" is looking like it will be the least successful of their 7 singles so far. Eh, "Cruise" is the exception to every single chart rule IMO. Which is why I said I didn't think "Sun Daze" would be "Cruise"-big, and that I don't think FGL will ever have a hit song that big again But at this point "Sun Daze" isn't even as big as "Get Your Shine On", "Round Here", "Stay", "This Is How We Roll", or "Dirt", and it's not looking like it'll match the success of any of those songs. It'll probably go #1 at radio easily, but the sales for both the single and the album are lagging well below their past few singles and their debut album. That's all I was really trying to say. Also, I think way too much emphasis is placed on "time of the year"...but maybe that's just me.
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Post by nick64 on Dec 18, 2014 23:44:55 GMT -5
Personally, I think it was just a poor single choice. "Dirt" showed that there's still quite a bit of interest in them and their album is doing pretty well also, so I think this is just a matter of picking the wrong song. "Sippin' On Fire", "Anything Goes", and "Smile" seemed like the most obvious singles to me on first listen, and I think all three would be selling better (although I think any song on the album would have become a radio hit, so that's not much of an issue).
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 18, 2014 23:50:40 GMT -5
Time of the year only matters when it comes to the competition at radio like this past Summer when it becomes even harder for newcomers and lower level artists to have singles be successful. But if its a Summer song released in the Winter, I agree with jhomes87 that too much emphasis is put on it. Labels try most of the time to have fun, upbeat songs released in the better weather months and ballads released in the colder months but it's nowhere near the life and death scenario that some make it out to be. "Sun Daze's" chart run and sales wouldn't be too much different IMO if it was June instead of December.
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Post by kml567 on Dec 18, 2014 23:55:43 GMT -5
But "Sun Daze" is #5 in sales with 20k (among radio singles). In the streaming era, that's the new norm. I think what we'll see consistently next year is that 20-25k downloads = #5 in sales and 15-20k downloads = #10 in sales. When Pop fans discovered streaming, the digital sales never recovered. I think the same can be said about Country now.
What's interesting is that kworb is projecting that Carrie Underwood will be #1 in digital sales (among radio singles) next week with only 25k! Sales just keep going down.
The only way we can get "normal" looking sales again is if Billboard changes the chart methodology to a "consumption chart" for digital sales. They could use the industry standard (100 streams = 1 download) and publish sales based on digital downloads + streaming-equivalent. It's a good thing RIAA counts streaming now for gold/platinum certification. The new norm is that 750k sales = platinum and 375k sales = gold. I think "Sun Daze" will easily get gold, but it might stall at 600k sales total so they might just miss out on platinum even with streaming counting.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 0:04:12 GMT -5
But "Sun Daze" is #5 in sales with 20k (among radio singles). In the streaming era, that's the new norm. I understand that streaming has cut away from sales numbers, but this didn't stop songs like "Dirt", "Drunk On A Plane", "American Kids", "Play It Again", "Leave The Night On", "Cop Car", "This Is How We Roll", and "Burnin' It Down" from going Platinum or even 2x Platinum in recent weeks/months. My point is that "Sun Daze" is selling about on par with a song like "Meanwhile Back At Mama's" from Tim McGraw...and while Tim is obviously a hugely popular artist, he is one of the few that got his start back when albums sold well...and that's why I expect newer artists like Luke, Jason, and Blake to outsell guys like Kenny, Tim, Keith, Brad, etc. almost every time. That's not happening here, though.
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Post by dm2081 on Dec 19, 2014 0:05:54 GMT -5
I've been thinking the same thing jhomes87. This song doesn't seem to be as "Big" as their others. But I've also noticed that song sales have been done for a while now. It seemed like we had that one really good patch of selling songs (Bartender, Roller Coaster, Dirt, Burnin It Down, Drunk On A Plane, and American Kids), but ever since that wave of songs, none of these country hits have been selling like crazy. I think we will only continue to see the same pattern as more people transition to streaming services. But radio certainly isn't shying away from this song. Perhaps it could blow up a little bit more once Christmas passes. I do agree with others though that "Anything Goes" would have been a better choice for the second single.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 0:12:14 GMT -5
^I agree. And for the record, I have also been one to point out the general decline in sales in recent weeks, but I still don't think that completely explains why the sales for "Sun Daze" are lower when compared to all of their previous singles. I mean, take a look at Sam Hunt, for instance. His new single "Take Your Time" is selling about as much as "Sun Daze" is, but with only 1/6 the airplay. I feel like we might be seeing a bit of over-saturation with FGL and with these types of 'bro-country' songs in general.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 9:05:13 GMT -5
This is definitely making less of a dent than previous Florida Georgia Line singles, but a "weak" single from Florida Georgia Line is still a hit when compared to most other country songs on the chart. This is currently the seventh highest-charting country song on the iTunes all-genre chart, behind only "Shotgun Rider," "Lonely Tonight" (inflated due to a reality TV performance), "Something in the Water," "Talladega," "Just Gettin' Started," and "I See You" (the latter two by only a hair), so I definitely agree this was a poor single choice, but nonetheless the research and sales for "Sun Daze" are still those of a #1 song.
I think Republic Nashville was just too quick to throw this single out immediately after "Dirt" went to #1. They could have easily waited another week or two to evaluate which album tracks had the most streams and individual downloads. Since "Sun Daze" is receiving top 10 airplay, the Spotify numbers are "corrupted" in its favor meaning we can't just compare streaming numbers, but I do remember that both "Bumpin' the Night" and "Sippin' on Fire" went top 2 on the iTunes all-genre chart when they were first released without any airplay, while "Sun Daze" peaked at #6 without airplay. I think those two as well as "Anything Goes," "Smoke," and "Like You Ain't Even Gone" would have made much better single choices. I also think this song is going to mislead non-FGL fans about the nature of this album. I would argue that "Sun Daze" has by far the most questionable lyrics out of all the album tracks and the rest of the songs are either "light bro-country" or not bro-country at all.
It will also be interesting to see how things go down between this and "I See You," which look like they may go up at the same time. I wonder if we will see a repeat of the "This Is How We Roll" vs. "Play It Again" scenario where one huge hit is blocked by an even bigger hit, or a repeat of the "Dirt" vs. "Roller Coaster" scenario where one song goes up after the other and holds the previous song to one week at #1.
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Post by matty005 on Dec 19, 2014 11:39:52 GMT -5
Time of the year only matters when it comes to the competition at radio like this past Summer when it becomes even harder for newcomers and lower level artists to have singles be successful. But if its a Summer song released in the Winter, I agree with jhomes87 that too much emphasis is put on it. Labels try most of the time to have fun, upbeat songs released in the better weather months and ballads released in the colder months but it's nowhere near the life and death scenario that some make it out to be. "Sun Daze's" chart run and sales wouldn't be too much different IMO if it was June instead of December. I agree about the chart run. But I am almost positive it would have sold more if this was released during the summer.
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 19, 2014 11:51:16 GMT -5
Time of the year only matters when it comes to the competition at radio like this past Summer when it becomes even harder for newcomers and lower level artists to have singles be successful. But if its a Summer song released in the Winter, I agree with jhomes87 that too much emphasis is put on it. Labels try most of the time to have fun, upbeat songs released in the better weather months and ballads released in the colder months but it's nowhere near the life and death scenario that some make it out to be. "Sun Daze's" chart run and sales wouldn't be too much different IMO if it was June instead of December. I agree about the chart run. But I am almost positive it would have sold more if this was released during the summer. Too be fair, I did say "Too much different". If I had to pick which month it'd be selling more, obviously June would likely see more but I still don't believe it would be anything substantial to get worked up over.
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Post by rsmatto on Dec 19, 2014 12:26:42 GMT -5
This song will at least hit Gold eventually, especially with post-holiday gift card spending sure to take place. They're still one of the biggest acts on the planet (no matter what people think, I don't expect that to change anytime soon) so they can release these types of songs whenever they want. Honestly, if they'd swapped this with "Dirt," I bet the sales #s for "Dirt" would be right where this is at the moment.
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Post by hosssulpizio on Dec 20, 2014 0:04:12 GMT -5
Well one things for sure FGL make horrible awards show hosts. I dreaded all their jokes.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 20, 2014 1:10:09 GMT -5
Well one things for sure FGL make horrible awards show hosts. I dreaded all their jokes. This. The only thing worse than them singing, is them talking. And I cringed when they tore off their suits at the beginning. Tyler really couldn't have worn sleeves for two hours? In regards to this one not selling like hotcakes like their past 6 singles: it looks like this could be their first single to miss the Top 40 of the Hot 100. Even if it narrowly makes it, it'll be their lowest-peaking song there.
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Post by dm2081 on Dec 20, 2014 13:10:16 GMT -5
IMO all those award shows hosts suck, the jokes are poorly written and corny unless there's a skillful host like Seth McFarland. And not sure what's so wrong about always wearing sleeveless shirts, it's his thing/style, just like how Marilyn Manson always dresses goth, KISS always wears makeup, and Tim McGraw always wears his hat. That's the image he likes, so that what he chooses to wear.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 21, 2014 1:56:06 GMT -5
IMO all those award shows hosts suck, the jokes are poorly written and corny unless there's a skillful host like Seth McFarland. Brad/Carrie and Reba both do/did fine jobs year-in and year-out, so it's certainly quite possible to host an award show well. The writers are definitely not solely to blame for FGL's awkward banter on stage.
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Post by rsmatto on Dec 22, 2014 11:25:00 GMT -5
IMO all those award shows hosts suck, the jokes are poorly written and corny unless there's a skillful host like Seth McFarland. Brad/Carrie and Reba both do/did fine jobs year-in and year-out, so it's certainly quite possible to host an award show well. The writers are definitely not solely to blame for FGL's awkward banter on stage. Especially since the guy helping them to write jokes and copy is the same guy (David Wild) that works with Brad/Carrie and the Grammy Awards.
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Post by surfy on Dec 22, 2014 21:53:12 GMT -5
Okay, I can't stand them "Cruise" was catchy and I liked it. "Get Your Shine On" was great, but I never charted it (not sure why...) but everything after that... I couldn't care less about them.
This song is nice, and "Dirt" was okay for me, but honestly I can't really see myself having any interest in re-listening to this song to see if it grows on me.
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Post by rbundy1987 on Jan 12, 2015 18:53:40 GMT -5
Couldn't help but notice that "Sippin' On Fire" got one add this week according to the Country Aircheck Adds this week.
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Post by carriekins on Jan 12, 2015 19:02:42 GMT -5
Couldn't help but notice that "Sippin' On Fire" got one add this week according to the Country Aircheck Adds this week. And The Highway is playing it as well. It's already on their Hot 45 Weekend Countdown. (And yeah, not impressed.)
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Post by dm2081 on Jan 12, 2015 20:52:48 GMT -5
Couldn't help but notice that "Sippin' On Fire" got one add this week according to the Country Aircheck Adds this week. Man, I really hope that's not the next single. Anything Goes, Confession, Angel, and Bumpin' The Night would all be way better choices.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2015 21:51:49 GMT -5
To be quite honest, idk one song they COULD release from their new album that wouldn't be a station changer for me personally
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jan 13, 2015 0:26:47 GMT -5
Let's grade their singles.
Cruise: B- Get Your Shine On: B- Round Here: B Stay: B+ This Is How We Roll: C Dirt: A- Sun Daze: C+
These guys are a guilty pleasure IMO. "This Is How We Roll" was one of my least favourite country songs of 2014.
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