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Post by neverduplicated on Mar 17, 2015 0:36:54 GMT -5
I was at first put off by the bitchiness of "Bad Blood," but as time goes on, I realise more and more that it's a total jam that will smash effortlessly. I find myself singing it all the time.
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Post by slamina on Mar 17, 2015 0:45:59 GMT -5
I hate Bad Blood. I'd prefer anything else. Stay would be my personal pick.
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Post by born on Mar 17, 2015 8:50:42 GMT -5
My predictions are similar to everyone's. Bad Blood, Wildest Dreams, Out Of The Woods. But if there are more than 6, I suspect a bonus track or I Know Places becoming singles. I had thought about: Early May: Bad Blood August:Wildest Dreams November:Out Of The Woods But now I'm more like: Late April: Bad Blood July: New Romantics October: Out Of The Woods January: Wildest Dreams (or Wonderland/I Know Places). That'd be GREAT. New Romantics is a great upbeat summer track, it could slay the airplay charts this summer. Out Of The Woods(which smells Autumn) is a really strong song that could compete with the majority of all the singles being released at that time of the year. And Bad Blood has this great beat to introduce summer.
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Post by musicbuff26 on Mar 17, 2015 9:41:19 GMT -5
My predictions are similar to everyone's. Bad Blood, Wildest Dreams, Out Of The Woods. But if there are more than 6, I suspect a bonus track or I Know Places becoming singles. I had thought about: Early May: Bad Blood August:Wildest Dreams November:Out Of The Woods But now I'm more like: Late April: Bad Blood July: New Romantics October: Out Of The Woods January: Wildest Dreams (or Wonderland/I Know Places). That'd be GREAT. New Romantics is a great upbeat summer track, it could slay the airplay charts this summer. Out Of The Woods(which smells Autumn) is a really strong song that could compete with the majority of all the singles being released at that time of the year. And Bad Blood has this great beat to introduce summer. I just downloaded New Romantics last week.. It's so amazing, I can't believe it was a bonus track! Also completely agree with your current thinking.. Bad Blood has to be released due to public reception and OOTW is just too good to not be a single.
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Post by born on Mar 17, 2015 12:24:28 GMT -5
My predictions are similar to everyone's. Bad Blood, Wildest Dreams, Out Of The Woods. But if there are more than 6, I suspect a bonus track or I Know Places becoming singles. I had thought about: Early May: Bad Blood August:Wildest Dreams November:Out Of The Woods But now I'm more like: Late April: Bad Blood July: New Romantics October: Out Of The Woods January: Wildest Dreams (or Wonderland/I Know Places). That'd be GREAT. New Romantics is a great upbeat summer track, it could slay the airplay charts this summer. Out Of The Woods(which smells Autumn) is a really strong song that could compete with the majority of all the singles being released at that time of the year. And Bad Blood has this great beat to introduce summer. I just downloaded New Romantics last week.. It's so amazing, I can't believe it was a bonus track! Also completely agree with your current thinking.. Bad Blood has to be released due to public reception and OOTW is just too good to not be a single. I know, right? Out Of The Woods is a masterpiece, despite having a repeatitive chorus which for me is epic. It's my current favorite off 1989. I really hope it has the success we're expecting. :) By the way, it has more chances of becoming #1 because according to studies everytime a song's chorus is repeated, the song has more chances of hitting the top spot.
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Post by tsr on Mar 17, 2015 12:32:03 GMT -5
Just popping in to say that I went out to a bar the other night and they played all three of her hits from this era within a two-hour (maybe one-hour, I can't remember) period. The impact. :'(
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Post by Taylor. on Mar 17, 2015 13:14:50 GMT -5
ok but how amazing would a Mean Girls-themed video for Bad Blood be?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2015 13:20:17 GMT -5
She should keep it '80s and do Heathers. But the shade of a Mean Girls vid would be undeniably great.
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Post by popbox on Mar 17, 2015 15:24:58 GMT -5
Taylor also denied the authenticity of the 1989 tracklist when it leaked even though it was the correct one. Pretty sure she occasionally denies things so she can announce them on her own terms/at the right time. Like what was she supposed to say "Yes, it's true." and then have us waiting for 2-3 months til its release. It's much more effective as a surprise. Not saying that its for sure happening, but ya never know. Nope, Taylor was right, it was wrong. It had some song's places switched :kii: So in that case maybe she means the Bad Blood remix with Kanye isn't happening...it's happening with Kanye AND Katy.
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Post by ripediebritt on Mar 17, 2015 17:03:47 GMT -5
She should keep it '80s and do Heathers. But the shade of a Mean Girls vid would be undeniably great. Yes! or a mashup of Mean Girls and Heathers. Or just a mashup of 80s teen movies. Actually that would work better for New Romantics, that song sounds the most 80s pop to me.
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Post by theflying on Mar 20, 2015 9:11:09 GMT -5
So sick of the nonsense about "Bad Blood" which literally wouldn't even be talked about if it was a few spots lower on iTunes. Taylor doesn't need to pull a Katy Perry and release a basic song like "Bad Blood" when she can still smash with far more interesting and quality material. (Still can't believe Katy Perry at 29 years old on her third album would release enjoyable but total cotton candy crap like "This Is How We Do" over more interesting material like "Walking on Air" or "Legendary Lovers".)
I think "Out of the Woods" is the defining moment of 1989 and needs to be released, but "Wildest Dreams", "Wonderland" (definitely an underrated single option), and "New Romantics" are all really good choices.
I know I sound like a broken record but I just don't understand -- Taylor Swift is not at the place in her career where she needs to release something like "Bad Blood". She's not some new act that needs to pick a single (and a FOURTH one at that) based on it selling marginally better than a few other ones. I'm not saying you can't enjoy "Bad Blood", but to me, it feels like the push for it to be a single is driven by some absolute desire to see Taylor have the maximum amount of chart success above all else, as if she isn't ALREADY demonstrating maximum chart success above all else.
I'll be really disappointed if she does release. My estimation of her will go down a little bit. Release quality stuff, first. She more than anyone else in the entire industry can afford to do so.
Make a statement about the album. Make a statement about where she's at, musically. Every single song I listed does that for her. A generic song about a feud she doesn't even want to talk about is regressive, for her.
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Post by theflying on Mar 20, 2015 9:23:29 GMT -5
I'd also like to add that this "add a rapper to the remix" is more proof of this warped logic behind a "Bad Blood" push. It's an underrated but still very important facet of 1989 that Taylor Swift is the only credited vocalist on it.
Adding a rapper to get more radio airplay to get a higher peak on the Hot 100 isn't part of the DNA that made 1989 what it is. Of course 1989 was designed for radio airplay and to have hits. But it's meant to be more timeless and organic in its construction, something that throwing on a rapper for some higher chart placement has nothing to do with, especially when she already has radio at her every whim. Should this "Bad Blood feat. Kanye West" remix be thrown together so it can get 250 million audience impressions on radio instead of the 220 million it would get normally? I mean really now.
I guess she could do it, but to me, it would feel *very* out of character. With the whole project. Which again makes me wonder why people are advocating for it.
Again, and I hope people appreciate the irony: that's something Katy Perry would (and did) do
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Post by skizzo on Mar 20, 2015 9:33:11 GMT -5
New Romantics would be my choice, but I know my absolutely fav will never be released so I'm fine with having something else take its place.
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Post by Rhythm Nation on Mar 20, 2015 9:35:35 GMT -5
So sick of the nonsense about "Bad Blood" which literally wouldn't even be talked about if it was a few spots lower on iTunes. Taylor doesn't need to pull a Katy Perry and release a basic song like "Bad Blood" when she can still smash with far more interesting and quality material. (Still can't believe Katy Perry at 29 years old on her third album would release enjoyable but total cotton candy crap like "This Is How We Do" over more interesting material like "Walking on Air" or "Legendary Lovers".) I think "Out of the Woods" is the defining moment of 1989 and needs to be released, but "Wildest Dreams", "Wonderland" (definitely an underrated single option), and "New Romantics" are all really good choices. I know I sound like a broken record but I just don't understand -- Taylor Swift is not at the place in her career where she needs to release something like "Bad Blood". She's not some new act that needs to pick a single (and a FOURTH one at that) based on it selling marginally better than a few other ones. I'm not saying you can't enjoy "Bad Blood", but to me, it feels like the push for it to be a single is driven by some absolute desire to see Taylor have the maximum amount of chart success above all else, as if she isn't ALREADY demonstrating maximum chart success above all else. I'll be really disappointed if she does release. My estimation of her will go down a little bit. Release quality stuff, first. She more than anyone else in the entire industry can afford to do so. Make a statement about the album. Make a statement about where she's at, musically. Every single song I listed does that for her. A generic song about a feud she doesn't even want to talk about is regressive, for her. Well said. I think we all got a bit excited when the album was sooo great and the first two singles flew to no1 on the Hot 100, everyone was suddenly talking about 6-7 no1s and this beating Teenage Dream etc. etc. With Style doing what it did, I think the expectations are a bit more realistic now and there is no 1 streak to worry about, so IMO Taylor should release the songs that will best showcase how amazing the album is. Woods, Wonderland, Romantics, Wildest Dreams would all work (and I still like Bad Blood BTW!)
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Post by theflying on Mar 20, 2015 9:42:04 GMT -5
I *definitely* agree that some of this is leftover from everyone thinking Taylor would pull a "Teenage Dream". And you know what, I'm sure Katy would have rather doubled what "Teenage Dream" sold than have the timeless "we'll totally hear this in ten years" classic like "The One That Got Away" hit #1 for some arbitrary record.
So now that there's no streak, no record at stake, what does it matter. Sell the album. Release the best stuff. The best stuff are huge hits *anyway*.
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Post by ClevelandRox on Mar 20, 2015 11:48:41 GMT -5
Whatever. I still want Bad Blood.
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Post by theflying on Mar 20, 2015 13:54:46 GMT -5
Whatever. I still want Bad Blood. It's okay. Some people like Britney Spears. There will always be a few.
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Mar 20, 2015 14:11:23 GMT -5
Whatever. I still want Bad Blood. It's okay. Some people like Britney Spears. There will always be a few. Unnecessary. Still pressed about that opening week record? ;)
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Post by #brayden on Mar 20, 2015 14:24:09 GMT -5
Well apparently it matters to you. "Bad Blood" is a quality pop song so I don't understand the notion that it shouldn't be released as a single just because it's not as mature as "Out of the Woods". I'm not particularly crazy about either of them but I think "Bad Blood" is head and shoulders above "Out of the Woods" (and a couple other options) in terms of single potential. It gets my vote for that reason.
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Post by theflying on Mar 20, 2015 14:24:46 GMT -5
Oh no, no, not at all, that doesn't matter to me. My point was that there will always be an audience for generic, basic pop even when it's only notable attribute is being entirely middle of the road and forgettable. You'll find many songs on the Pop chart right now that fit that. The only reason I mentioned Britney is that she made a career out of it.
I do think "Bad Blood" is a quality Pop song. I do not understand releasing it over many other songs, with there exception being you think it'll perform better or that you like it more.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Mar 20, 2015 14:39:18 GMT -5
There isn't much of a difference between 'This Is How We Do' and 'Walking On Air' or 'Legendary Lovers' at all imo.
All three were literally made out of the same cookie cutter, but maybe TIHWD got a little botched up in the oven.
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Mar 20, 2015 14:41:15 GMT -5
Why is it that we have to tear down the careers of superiors just to make a point that has already been made using rational thought? Britney invented her own brand of forward thinking pop music. And MJ/Madonna invented theirs before her. And Elvis before them. Taylor might very well be doing it now, but let's show some respect.
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Post by theflying on Mar 20, 2015 15:07:08 GMT -5
There isn't much of a difference between 'This Is How We Do' and 'Walking On Air' or 'Legendary Lovers' at all imo. All three were literally made out of the same cookie cutter, but maybe TIHWD got a little botched up in the oven. See the thing is, I agree with this, which is why my opinion of Katy Perry as an artist took a hit. After Dark Horse, she was on her fourth single. On her third album. As a superstar and radio darling. ALL of those songs are safe. All of them. "Different" for Katy Perry is like describing the differences between an orange and tangerine. That's one of the factors as to why my opinion of her dropped: When she could release anything she want, when all of the potential choices would have done well, she went with *THE* most basic and *THE* most reductive of the options ("This Is How We Do" and "Birthday"). I was floored. I know we don't look to someone like Katy Perry for artistic integrity, but jesus christ. I'd rather she have released Unconditionally two more times. I've always felt Rihanna, while it being risky and I guess not everyone can pull it off, does it right. She takes risks. She releases different stuff. She uses her hits wisely because she knows she can experiment with her sound for other songs, the way an actor might balance between blockbuster summer movies with indie dramas. Thus Rihanna sets herself up every era to deliver something new, fresh, and on her own terms. I also think Rihanna is admirable because she had every opportunity to not go that route - starting as a Caribbean knockoff act with limited vocal ability and little more than her looks. But look at what she's become. Taylor Swift doesn't become Taylor Swift without always challenging herself with her material, and I want to see Taylor Swift be willing to be more like Rihanna than Katy Perry.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Mar 20, 2015 19:47:13 GMT -5
Well said. I think we all got a bit excited when the album was sooo great and the first two singles flew to no1 on the Hot 100, everyone was suddenly talking about 6-7 no1s and this beating Teenage Dream etc. etc. With Style doing what it did, I think the expectations are a bit more realistic now and there is no 1 streak to worry about, so IMO Taylor should release the songs that will best showcase how amazing the album is. Woods, Wonderland, Romantics, Wildest Dreams would all work (and I still like Bad Blood BTW!) Erm there definitely is a #1 streak (Pop Radio #1s they could, hypothetically, worry about). Also, I fail to see how tacking on a rapper to a potential release of "Bad Blood" would be "out of character" when Taylor herself, on MANY occasions has associated herself with and shown herself to be a fan of rap artists and rap music. Hell, she spearheaded the campaign that launched "Superbass" (least we forget "Thug Story" and her countless shoutouts to various rap artists/songs). IMO It is only a matter of time before a collaboration of the like takes place and this just happens to be a perfect opportunity (particularly considering Kanye and Taylor's history which would maximize interest and coincidentally could be related to the song itself, which is good for business, which some fans forget, is mostly what this is all about). I, for one, think "Bad Blood", regardless of digital standing (although that certainly stands in its favor), or without added artists would make a great single. At the end of the day, Taylor has proved her artistic side and made herself artisticly credible. Broadening her scope and adding a rapper wouldn't diminish anything at all. The album itself speaks to her artistry and the ones before it (hello, Speak Now). Those who have said "ZOMG don't resort to such lowbrow behavior to boost success or misrepresent yourself as less artisticly sound by adding a rapper" should've been the same ones maligning her for working so feverishly with Max Martin, arguably one who is known for creating music low on artistic integrity but tailor-made dor maximum success and I didn't hear a peep. C'mon.
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Post by SoMuchToSay on Mar 20, 2015 19:53:43 GMT -5
It doesn't look like she'll match Katy's 5 #1's. I'm ready for single #4. Hoping for either All You Had To Do Was Stay or How You Get the Girl. Bad Blood just strikes me as a song that would flop hard. I
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Post by crystalphnx on Mar 20, 2015 20:04:46 GMT -5
apologies if I missed this, but is there still no official single cover/art? it's easy to find a ton of fanmade stuff using the Polaroids, but has a truly official one surfaced (used on iTunes or a physical release anywhere in the world)?
it triggers my iTunes OCD whenever I play this song and the album cover pops up, knowing this is undoubtedly an official international single release
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