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Post by rsmatto on Nov 16, 2015 22:35:40 GMT -5
You'd be surprised at how much they get paid by "Small fairs and Casinos" to play. Roughly high 5 figures to low 6 figures per show. Good point. There's no doubt they get a hefty payday for those venues but in terms of helping them with a long run at radio? I don't know how long that can last. I will say that their partnership with New Revolution has been great so far and they proved me wrong with the airplay success of "Look At You" and "Run Away With You", so who knows, maybe they can get a few more hits. I honestly don't think radio cares at all if they tour in an area or not. Radio need only play one Top 20 hit every so often from a band to allow them to consistently tour. So if they give Radio something to play like this song and it's "enough" to get up to the Top 20, then well, they'll tour wherever they want. Given that B&R have had enough "Hits" and been around over a decade, they probably can tour forever on those circuits.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 18, 2015 12:51:21 GMT -5
I give up. This one leaped Parmalee and Jana Kramer today as "Run Away With You" was able to rally a 61 spin increase. New Revolution and Big & Rich must feel this is worth it since they spent so much money already promoting this single, that they might as well sell the house and family dog, and try for a MB top 10 finish.
Radio is so done with this song but promotion money and brown-nosing are doing the talking right now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2015 12:54:47 GMT -5
Run Away With You is like the cockroach that won't die. I don't know if I'm impressed or frustrated that this is still going.
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Post by bboat11 on Nov 18, 2015 13:17:50 GMT -5
Big & Rich are going to go the way of Rodney Atkins very quickly if they continue to give us such a high degree of overexposure spread between a small amount of songs...
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 19, 2015 13:41:19 GMT -5
New Revolution have really been gunning for those overnight spins the past two days (over 150 gained), yet only 350k in audience gained.
Make no mistake, they'll be satisfied with a MB top 10, if they can get there. Once they give promotion up, expect "Run Away With You" to have quite the free-fall.
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Post by hosssulpizio on Nov 22, 2015 14:11:57 GMT -5
So excited that I'm hearing "Run Away with You" on Radio Disney Country!! This is such a great song.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 22, 2015 16:50:43 GMT -5
Ignoring the 11/21 panel change update, "Run Away With You" has gained 344 spins and 1.5 million in audience over the past four days...the previous three weeks (21 days) saw "Run Away With You" gain just 150 spins and 1.4 million in audience, with the song 45 weeks old...nothing unnatural about that... I'm expecting New Revolution to not give this up until next Sunday. Old Dominion will be going recurrent and Cole Swindell should fall below. With LoCash being leaped this week, that should pave the way for a top 10 MB finish for Big & Rich on November 29th.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Nov 24, 2015 7:39:41 GMT -5
This may very well be the first top 10 country hit (if it does get to the top 10 at the end of the week) not to hit the Hot 100 in a while. This week it's at #103, hindered by 12 debuts from Justin Bieber, and 5 from One Direction. Some, if not most of these 17 songs will leave next week, but Adele's entire 25 album will be on the Hot 100 next week, so that's another 10 reserved spaces.
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Post by trebor on Nov 24, 2015 9:20:19 GMT -5
This may very well be the first top 10 country hit ( if it does get to the top 10 at the end of the week) not to hit the Hot 100. Happened all the time when the Hot 100 was primarily based on Top 40 & Adult. Look at the 80's and 90's.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Nov 24, 2015 9:23:52 GMT -5
This may very well be the first top 10 country hit ( if it does get to the top 10 at the end of the week) not to hit the Hot 100. Happened all the time when the Hot 100 was primarily based on Top 40 & Adult. Look at the 80's and 90's. I mean in a while, lol. I will correct my post.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 24, 2015 10:21:29 GMT -5
This may very well be the first top 10 country hit ( if it does get to the top 10 at the end of the week) not to hit the Hot 100 in a while. This week it's at #103, hindered by 12 debuts from Justin Bieber, and 5 from One Direction. Some, if not most of these 17 songs will leave next week, but Adele's entire 25 album will be on the Hot 100 next week, so that's another 10 reserved spaces. This will hit the top 10, on at least MB. New Revolution isn't messing around this week as "Run Away With You" is up 160 spins and 860k in audience today.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 23:15:37 GMT -5
Yeah, the top 10 push is definitely on. Let's hope that this one plummets big time next week after it places in the top 10. While I'm glad to see Big & Rich and New Revolution both having success at country radio, this song is so overplayed, and I find it very vanilla at best. Also, this is barely in the top 400 all-genre on iTunes. This song, Parmalee's "Already Callin' You Mine", and Hunter Hayes' "21" shouldn't have come anywhere close to the top 20, let alone top 10 (for the first two -- not for "21").
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 25, 2015 0:25:06 GMT -5
Yeah, the top 10 push is definitely on. Let's hope that this one plummets big time next week after it places in the top 10. I'm positive this will see quite the free-fall once they secure a top 10 finish -- probably one of the biggest drops in audience and spins we've seen all year.
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Post by phil1996 on Nov 25, 2015 0:46:30 GMT -5
I'm hoping for an good up-tempo lead single off a new album next...Look at You/Run Away w/ you literally have the same tempo. Hope they change it up a bit.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Nov 25, 2015 11:31:09 GMT -5
If this hits Top 10, then that means both of their New Revolution singles will have outpeaked all but one of their Warner Bros. releases. Stunning, isn't it?
I was always baffled at why B&R's early singles tended to die out fast. Look at the abrupt chart runs of Holy Water, Big Time, Comin' to Your City, 8th of November, etc. Even Wild West Show made a U-turn from #21 before its 20 weeks were up.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 25, 2015 15:06:54 GMT -5
If this hits Top 10, then that means both of their New Revolution singles will have outpeaked all but one of their Warner Bros. releases. Stunning, isn't it? I was always baffled at why B&R's early singles tended to die out fast. Look at the abrupt chart runs of Holy Water, Big Time, Comin' to Your City, 8th of November, etc. Even Wild West Show made a U-turn from #21 before its 20 weeks were up. I remember they were viewed as a radically-different polarizing duo back then with singles like "Comin to Your City" and "Save a Horse (Ride a Cowboy)" but if they'd come out now with singles like those they'd probably have actually fit in better with the recent trends of "let's play with country music in ways that make it seem less country." The fact that this basic non-event of a song has done as well as it has says all we need to know about the sad state of how country radio works in 2015.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 25, 2015 15:10:12 GMT -5
Well, this could get interesting if today's update is a sign of what's to come the rest of the week. "I Love This Life" gained 134 spins and over 600k in audience, while "Run Away With You" gained 137 spins and 450k in audience. Both songs are dead even in spins gained since Sunday and LoCash have a 200k in audience gained lead since the 22nd. "I Love This Life" will be getting the Billboard top 10 this week, since its just too far ahead in audience over "Run Away With You", but it could perhaps block Kenny and John from the MB top 10? That remains to be seen; Big & Rich still should have at least a 200 point lead on MB as of today, so I still say "Run Away With You" gets the MB top 10 by this Sunday, perhaps by a decent margin if New Revolution keeps the pedal to the metal, which they will.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 25, 2015 15:17:30 GMT -5
Good. I hope LoCash and company don't play nice and they don't let B&R have their Top 10.
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Post by Marv on Nov 25, 2015 15:48:32 GMT -5
For me at least, Comin' To Your City' was as downright bombastic and over the top as the gruesome 'Truck Yeah' was, but much more listenable.
Top 40 radio was indeed the best-of-all genres format it was in the 80s as it was in the 60s when I was growing up; folks such as Ronnie Milsap had no trouble going to #1 at country radio while also topping the AC chart to go along with top 5 on the Hot 100 with masterpieces such as 'Any Day Now' in early 1981, a mere 12 1/2 years after 'Harper Valley PTA' took the biggest jump in the history of the Hot 100 (81-7), but would have spent SEVERAL weeks at #1 as opposed to the two weeks on top it managed if it hadn't been for 'Hey Jude'.
45 weeks on the charts for this tune is 4 weeks more than 'Find Out Who Your Friends Are' needed to reach the penthouse in 2007--and Rodney Atkins 'blew up' out of nowhere.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 25, 2015 15:50:59 GMT -5
I loved "Comin' To You City", lol.
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Post by onebuffalo on Nov 25, 2015 16:04:04 GMT -5
For me at least, Comin' To Your City' was as downright bombastic and over the top as the gruesome 'Truck Yeah' was, but much more listenable. Top 40 radio was indeed the best-of-all genres format it was in the 80s as it was in the 60s when I was growing up; folks such as Ronnie Milsap had no trouble going to #1 at country radio while also topping the AC chart to go along with top 5 on the Hot 100 with masterpieces such as 'Any Day Now' in early 1981, a mere 12 1/2 years after 'Harper Valley PTA' took the biggest jump in the history of the Hot 100 (81-7), but would have spent SEVERAL weeks at #1 as opposed to the two weeks on top it managed if it hadn't been for 'Hey Jude'. 45 weeks on the charts for this tune is 4 weeks more than 'Find Out Who Your Friends Are' needed to reach the penthouse in 2007--and Rodney Atkins 'blew up' out of nowhere. To be fair, there were a few more #1s between Find Out Who Your Friends Are and These Are My People by Rodney Atkins. They are: 1. Ticks-Brad Paisley 2. Lucky Man-Montgomery Gentry 3. Lost In This Moment-Big & Rich 4. Never Wanted Nothing More-Kenny Chesney 5. These Are My People-Rodney Atkins Then, Garth Brooks 'blew up' out of nowhere, literally with More Than A Memory.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 25, 2015 16:13:25 GMT -5
For me at least, Comin' To Your City' was as downright bombastic and over the top as the gruesome 'Truck Yeah' was, but much more listenable. Top 40 radio was indeed the best-of-all genres format it was in the 80s as it was in the 60s when I was growing up; folks such as Ronnie Milsap had no trouble going to #1 at country radio while also topping the AC chart to go along with top 5 on the Hot 100 with masterpieces such as 'Any Day Now' in early 1981, a mere 12 1/2 years after 'Harper Valley PTA' took the biggest jump in the history of the Hot 100 (81-7), but would have spent SEVERAL weeks at #1 as opposed to the two weeks on top it managed if it hadn't been for 'Hey Jude'. 45 weeks on the charts for this tune is 4 weeks more than 'Find Out Who Your Friends Are' needed to reach the penthouse in 2007--and Rodney Atkins 'blew up' out of nowhere. Then, Garth Brooks 'blew up' out of nowhere, literally with More Than A Memory. We knew for a few weeks that Garth was coming back to radio though and it was apparent that he might debut at #1 on Billboard's chart mid-week when it was released, so I don't think it was quite "Out of Nowhere."
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Post by onebuffalo on Nov 25, 2015 16:16:02 GMT -5
Then, Garth Brooks 'blew up' out of nowhere, literally with More Than A Memory. We knew for a few weeks that Garth was coming back to radio though and it was apparent that he might debut at #1 on Billboard's chart mid-week when it was released, so I don't think it was quite "Out of Nowhere." You certainly can't say (I know you didn't) that Rodney Atkins came from nowhere considering his previous two singles ended up being the biggest hits of the year: 2006's If You're Going Through Hell Before The Devil Even Knows and 2007's Watching You.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 26, 2015 16:04:34 GMT -5
Pretty much a repeat update today for both "Run Away With You" and "I Love This Life", from yesterday -- the only difference is that Big & Rich out-gained LoCash by about 100k in audience. We'll see if LoCash can unseat Big & Rich for that MB #10 position by Sunday but Kenny and John are still in the driver's seat.
"Run Away With You" would be the worst selling top 10 single since "Take It On Back."
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Nov 26, 2015 16:31:09 GMT -5
If I recall correctly, no song that has hit the BB Top 10 has failed to enter the Hot 100 since 1998. I believe the closest has been Martina McBride's "It's My Time", which got to #11 country but only "bubbled under" the Hot 100 at #102.e
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Post by someguy on Nov 28, 2015 11:44:27 GMT -5
lol @ this song that's been in the top 50 for nearly a year having the second biggest bullet on the chart. Only country radio.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 28, 2015 13:36:58 GMT -5
lol @ this song that's been in the top 50 for nearly a year having the second biggest bullet on the chart. Only country radio. Usually if a radio promotion department has a good relationship with country radio, and tout a possible accomplishment (back-to-back top 10 singles for New Revolution ever), then radio bends over backwards to accommodate them. The increases in overnight spins that "Run Away With You" has gotten over the past week is ridiculous and it really is downright sickening to watch labels manipulate country radio. Big & Rich are now guaranteed a MB top 10 as LoCash was doubled in spins gained by B&R and they broke even in audience, while Kenny and John increased 650k. Make no mistake; country radio was so done with this song 6-7 weeks ago, but alas, here we are with "Run Away With You" having gained 616 spins and 3.5 million in audience over the past six days.
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Post by someguy on Nov 28, 2015 14:50:28 GMT -5
lol @ this song that's been in the top 50 for nearly a year having the second biggest bullet on the chart. Only country radio. Usually if a radio promotion department has a good relationship with country radio, and tout a possible accomplishment (back-to-back top 10 singles for New Revolution ever), then radio bends over backwards to accommodate them. The increases in overnight spins that "Run Away With You" has gotten over the past week is ridiculous and it really is downright sickening to watch labels manipulate country radio. Big & Rich are now guaranteed a MB top 10 as LoCash was doubled in spins gained by B&R and they broke even in audience, while Kenny and John increased 650k. Make no mistake; country radio was so done with this song 6-7 weeks ago, but alas, here we are with "Run Away With You" having gained 616 spins and 3.5 million in audience over the past six days. Oh yeah, definitely. It's ridiculous how blatant the chart manipulation can be at times.
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Post by godjanny on Nov 28, 2015 23:49:41 GMT -5
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Post by Marv on Nov 29, 2015 0:22:14 GMT -5
The only mystery left regarding this song would appear to be how many spins will it lose next week?
2,500+ sounds like a distinct possibility.
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