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Post by Libra on Apr 21, 2015 16:06:48 GMT -5
It looks like GOLT was sent recurrent on Aircheck's Activator chart--I'm really not sure why. I generally don't pay attention to Billboard Indicator or Aircheck Activator, not only because they only track small market airplay, but also because I've noticed that neither chart really has a set recurrent policy. Songs just seem to come and go at random. Without double-checking the Country Update, I...think, BB Indicator's recurrent policy is simply 20/20 (below #20 and over 20 weeks). Either that or 10/20. Also: Unfortunately, no top 10's will go recurrent next week--ZBB would have to lose 2400+ spins and/or 14-15 million in audience, and that's not gonna happen all in one week. This means that Reba will either need to pass someone (most likely Dustin, RF, or M&T...or all of them) or otherwise she'll have to wait a bit to get into the top 30. There's also the possibility that someone like Eric Paslay or Gloriana could go recurrent, but I don't think that's very likely. Ah...no. :) "Homegrown" isn't old enough, and 5/2 is Bulletless Week 1 anyway.
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Post by sapphire on Apr 21, 2015 18:49:04 GMT -5
She'll be performing on The Voice tonight, according to The Voice twitter.
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Post by Ragin on Apr 21, 2015 20:08:24 GMT -5
Yeah and I thought it was pretty good.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 7:16:21 GMT -5
Hope there's a sales bump with the performance plus the ACM performance.
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Post by Sean on Apr 22, 2015 8:36:55 GMT -5
Damn! Great performance! Seriously, this one and the ACM performance show that she still has that stage presence that is nearly unmatched! Almost 40 years into her career and she's got the energy and power of what she had 20 years ago! How I wish for intricate costume changes and stuff for when I see her in Vegas! One can dream! Ugh, I love this woman! Anyways, definitely not tired of listening to this song and hope she can get some more adds/higher chart positioning! <3
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Post by HolidayGuy on Apr 22, 2015 8:53:39 GMT -5
Are the stations giving GOLT the most spins part of those Nashville Icon panel, or are regular country stations giving it play, too?
This song is playing daily in my household. :)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 10:44:17 GMT -5
Outstanding vocal performance yesterday and now outstanding sales performance!
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Post by .indulgecountry on Apr 22, 2015 11:43:12 GMT -5
Great debut for Love Somebody! They really promoted very well this single/album campaign. The fact that she debuted with almost exactly what she did with her last album 4.5 years ago, when she had a big radio hit in "Turn on the Radio" and the sales climate was better, you can tell it paid off.
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Post by onebuffalo on Apr 23, 2015 9:35:05 GMT -5
Nice move on the mongrel chart for Going Out Like That: #32 to #25. Go, Reba!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 20:22:16 GMT -5
Are the stations giving GOLT the most spins part of those Nashville Icon panel, or are regular country stations giving it play, too? The Billboard and Mediabase panels don't include any of the Nash Icon stations (they don't play enough current music to be on the panels). So all the airplay that BB and MB is counting is coming from regular stations on the panels. Given the BMLG/Cumulus partnership (the Nash Icon record label), "Going Out Like That" was basically block-added by all Cumulus stations as soon as it was released (most Cumulus stations are either branded as Nash or Nash Icon--but only Nash airplay counts toward the charts). I think about 70% of Reba's airplay numbers are coming from Cumulus stations (that's just a rough guess though). A handful of other stations have added the song as well, but not too many of them are Clear Channel or CBS stations. Hopefully that helps. I'd like to see Billboard publish a chart that tabulates all airplay from Nash Icon stations. Most of the songs that Nash Icon stations play are "gold" songs from the last couple of decades (lots of 90's stuff) but they do sprinkle in some new music from the likes of Reba, Lee Ann Womack, and others, so I think it'd be cool for Billboard to publish a little Nash Icon chart. I mean, if they publish an Indicator chart and a Texas airplay chart, then I don't see why they can't add up all the Nash Icon airplay and publish a chart for it.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Apr 23, 2015 20:56:17 GMT -5
^Thanks for the info/explanation. :) "Mongrel" chart- quite a bit of that going on with Billboard lately.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 21:01:17 GMT -5
"Mongrel" chart- quite a bit of that going on with Billboard lately. Ha! It's our "affectionate" nickname for Hot Country Songs. Most of us here think the HCS methodology (same as the Hot 100) is pretty ridiculous. For me, I don't like that it includes all-genre airplay...because of that, the HCS chart will always reward cross-over songs more than actual country songs, which seems just stupid for a genre chart. That's my opinion, anyway :)
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Post by HolidayGuy on Apr 23, 2015 21:07:07 GMT -5
^Oh, I understand- see Billboard 200 and the inane inclusion of track sales. "Going Out Like That" re-entered Bubbling Under the Hot 100 at No. 8 this week (a new peak).
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Post by sbp17 on Apr 23, 2015 22:17:59 GMT -5
So I'm thinking that I wish they'd push this another week or two for a top 30 peak and then move on to Enough. Top 20 or 10, if doable, would take too much time and probably not do as much for the album as a fresh single.
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Post by RobbyFlorida on Apr 24, 2015 10:13:59 GMT -5
Great week for the single on the other Billboard Country charts (all peaking)
April 23
Hot Country Songs - #25
Country Digital Songs - #20
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 24, 2015 11:34:14 GMT -5
So I'm thinking that I wish they'd push this another week or two for a top 30 peak and then move on to Enough. Top 20 or 10, if doable, would take too much time and probably not do as much for the album as a fresh single. "Going Out Like That" has been spun so often on the Cumulus stations that there's little chance it could last long enough for a top 20 peak, let alone top 10.
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Post by sbp17 on Apr 24, 2015 15:39:28 GMT -5
Going Out Like That" has been spun so often on the Cumulus stations that there's little chance it could last long enough for a top 20 peak, let alone top 10. Hence the "if doable" part of my quote....my point being that I think they should move on to the next single if they can push this into the top 30 in the next week or two.
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 24, 2015 16:04:58 GMT -5
Going Out Like That" has been spun so often on the Cumulus stations that there's little chance it could last long enough for a top 20 peak, let alone top 10. Hence the "if doable" part of my quote....my point being that I think they should move on to the next single if they can push this into the top 30 in the next week or two. And I was pointing out that it's most likely "not doable." ;)
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Post by bboat11 on Apr 25, 2015 21:19:05 GMT -5
I just had a revelation about the potential chart successes of Reba's current album. Is it going to be as expensive to release singles for the Nash Icon label? The way I imagine it, it is pretty much guaranteed her songs will be added by Cumulus stations and Nash/Nash Icon stations. And then there is very little need for further promotion, since very few regular radio stations are going to add her songs anyway. But then won't the Cumulus stations still play her songs as much as possible due to their affiliation with Nash Icon? Is it conceivably possible for her to keep getting top 30 or 40 hits from an album and have Nash Icon spend very little money on promotion to radio, compared to other labels who will be fighting for #1s all the time? Or am I missing some sort of essential link to the system? I know next to nothing about the charts, other than labels pour a lot of money into trying to get radio to play their songs...
But if my thought is true, then there wouldn't be any reason for them to stop releasing singles from this album... Reba could potentially go like 5 deep for the first time in decades! And meanwhile the label could pour more money into stuff like securing high-profile performances, trying to spur sales with the general public, etc...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 21:24:04 GMT -5
I just had a revelation about the potential chart successes of Reba's current album. Is it going to be as expensive to release singles for the Nash Icon label? The way I imagine it, it is pretty much guaranteed her songs will be added by Cumulus stations and Nash/Nash Icon stations. And then there is very little need for further promotion, since very few regular radio stations are going to add her songs anyway. But then won't the Cumulus stations still play her songs as much as possible due to their affiliation with Nash Icon? Is it conceivably possible for her to keep getting top 30 or 40 hits from an album and have Nash Icon spend very little money on promotion to radio, compared to other labels who will be fighting for #1s all the time? Or am I missing some sort of essential link to the system? I know next to nothing about the charts, other than labels pour a lot of money into trying to get radio to play their songs... But if my thought is true, then there wouldn't be any reason for them to stop releasing singles from this album... Reba could potentially go like 5 deep for the first time in decades! And meanwhile the label could pour more money into stuff like securing high-profile performances, trying to spur sales with the general public, etc... I hadn't really thought about it, but it's entirely possible that this album could go 5 singles deep. Kix Brooks got 5 singles from his New To This Town album solely because of his affiliation with Cumulus (he's not signed with a Cumulus-backed label, but he does have syndicated shows on Cumulus). Arista pushed "New To This Town" as high as they could get it (it peaked at #31), but singles 2-5 only got minimal airplay--mostly from Cumulus--and all of them stalled in the 40's. Reba would almost certainly do better than Kix though. "Enough" is likely to be the 2nd single, and my hope is that it will be jointly worked to radio by Valory and Mercury (Jennifer Nettles' label).
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Post by bboat11 on Apr 25, 2015 21:46:01 GMT -5
I hadn't really thought about it, but it's entirely possible that this album could go 5 singles deep. Kix Brooks got 5 singles from his New To This Town album solely because of his affiliation with Cumulus (he's not signed with a Cumulus-backed label, but he does have syndicated shows on Cumulus). Arista pushed "New To This Town" as high as they could get it (it peaked at #31), but singles 2-5 only got minimal airplay--mostly from Cumulus--and all of them stalled in the 40's. Reba would almost certainly do better than Kix though. "Enough" is likely to be the 2nd single, and my hope is that it will be jointly worked to radio by Valory and Mercury (Jennifer Nettles' label). That would be ideal if they were able to get both those labels pushing it! Although, my worry would be that Jennifer's name will actually not be any help with getting radio to accept the song. "Going Out Like That" has been more successful chart-wise with 90% of radio refusing to play it than anything Jennifer has released in her solo career thus far. However, I suppose whether Jennifer's name helps radio to latch onto the song despite radio's resistance to Reba as a Nash Icon artist or not, having two labels pouring in resources could increase the likelihood that radio is willing to play it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 21:58:21 GMT -5
That would be ideal if they were able to get both those labels pushing it! Although, my worry would be that Jennifer's name will actually not be any help with getting radio to accept the song. "Going Out Like That" has been more successful chart-wise with 90% of radio refusing to play it than anything Jennifer has released in her solo career thus far. However, I suppose whether Jennifer's name helps radio to latch onto the song despite radio's resistance to Reba as a Nash Icon artist or not, having two labels pouring in resources could increase the likelihood that radio is willing to play it. I actually think radio would love to play Jennifer Nettles - the problem with her solo album was that none of it sounded anything like what's on country radio today, so I'm not surprised that she didn't have success. But if Jennifer made music that was a little geared toward radio, then I'm sure she would have seen more success. And "Enough" sounds like a 'radio' song to me...yes, yes, I know it's a power ballad and it's sung by two women (one of whom has aligned herself with Cumulus), but even so, I can still see it doing well if enough stations are able to ignore the whole Nash Icon thing. It's gonna be close as to whether or not "Going Out Like That" makes the Billboard top 30 on Monday. It had a rough update today, but it's still looking like it'll be neck and neck with Rascal Flatts, Maddie & Tae, and Kip Moore. Of course, Zac Brown Band's new single looks like it could debut in the top 30, but if Reba could somehow pass both RF and MT and hold off Kip Moore, then she'd probably land right at #30 (it'd help if Eric Paslay goes recurrent, but I'm thinking he'll stay on). As of right now, though, I don't think Reba has more than a 10% chance of being #30 or better on Monday's Billboard. There's just too many things she'd need to go her way. But if Valory keeps pushing this for at least one more week (and who knows, they could push it for another month or two yet - we really don't know what their plans are), then it might have a pretty decent chance at entering the top 30 a week from Monday (May 4).
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Post by moose on Apr 26, 2015 17:32:00 GMT -5
I actually think radio would love to play Jennifer Nettles - the problem with her solo album was that none of it sounded anything like what's on country radio today, so I'm not surprised that she didn't have success. But if Jennifer made music that was a little geared toward radio, then I'm sure she would have seen more success. And "Enough" sounds like a 'radio' song to me...yes, yes, I know it's a power ballad and it's sung by two women (one of whom has aligned herself with Cumulus), but even so, I can still see it doing well if enough stations are able to ignore the whole Nash Icon thing. It's gonna be close as to whether or not "Going Out Like That" makes the Billboard top 30 on Monday. It had a rough update today, but it's still looking like it'll be neck and neck with Rascal Flatts, Maddie & Tae, and Kip Moore. Of course, Zac Brown Band's new single looks like it could debut in the top 30, but if Reba could somehow pass both RF and MT and hold off Kip Moore, then she'd probably land right at #30 (it'd help if Eric Paslay goes recurrent, but I'm thinking he'll stay on). As of right now, though, I don't think Reba has more than a 10% chance of being #30 or better on Monday's Billboard. There's just too many things she'd need to go her way. But if Valory keeps pushing this for at least one more week (and who knows, they could push it for another month or two yet - we really don't know what their plans are), then it might have a pretty decent chance at entering the top 30 a week from Monday (May 4). . You are going on Airplay alone which she is #31, she is #25 on sales chart. Billboard combines these for the main country chart which she is #25 with a bullet. So she officially had a top 25 hit.
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Post by moose on Apr 26, 2015 17:36:55 GMT -5
2010sEdit Year Title Peak chart positions Album US Country [1] US Country Airplay [5] US [3][6] CAN Country [7] CAN [4] 2010 "I Keep On Loving You" 7 — 78 — 97 Keep On Loving You "Turn On the Radio" 1 — 53 — 67 All the Women I Am 2011 "If I Were a Boy" 22 — 123 — — "When Love Gets a Hold of You" 40 — — — — "Somebody's Chelsea" 44 — — — — 2015 "Going Out Like That"[D] 25 31 108 37 Love Somebody
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 17:40:57 GMT -5
. You are going on Airplay alone which she is #31, she is #25 on sales chart. Billboard combines these for the main country chart which she is #25 with a bullet. So she officially had a top 25 hit. Yes, I know I am going by airplay alone :) And sure, if you are going by the Hot Country Songs chart, then GOLT is top 25. Most in the music industry don't care about that chart at all though, and I personally think it has way too many flaws in its methodology...therefore, I'm not a fan of it. Welcome to Pulse, btw. You will find that many of us "chart-watchers" here track the Billboard and Mediabase airplay charts. Sure, we'll bring up Hot Country Songs or the sales and streaming charts from time to time, but those charts aren't tracked as often as the airplay charts are.
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Post by moose on Apr 26, 2015 18:03:49 GMT -5
Thanks!
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Post by someguy on Apr 27, 2015 19:26:59 GMT -5
Terrible week on Billboard - down over 700k, and slips back to #33. I can't say I'm shocked though, given the huge week it had last week. I'm hoping signs of those ads they got last week will start to kick in ASAP.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 20:37:36 GMT -5
Terrible week on Billboard - down over 700k, and slips back to #33. I can't say I'm shocked though, given the huge week it had last week. I'm hoping signs of those ads they got last week will start to kick in ASAP. If you take a look at the leading spinners over on AllAccess, you'll see that the reason GOLT faltered a bit this past week is because of a slight reduction in spins at quite a few Cumulus stations, notably the 2 biggest markets: NYC and Dallas. www.allaccess.com/mediabase/q/report/leaders/song/REBAGOLT/format/C1Down 8 spins at WNSH New York, down 5 at KPLX in Dallas, a couple spins lost in Atlanta and Memphis as well. Those are big market Cumulus stations, so a loss of even 2 dozen spins at those stations is gonna hurt Reba...because again, she's relying so heavily on Cumulus. Any other song would have been able to make up for these losses with gains at other stations, but Reba has to rely mainly on Cumulus. I agree though--let's wait a few days and see if this can rebound.
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Post by someguy on Apr 27, 2015 20:42:04 GMT -5
I knew that had to happen sooner or later, but it's really unfortunate that it seems to be happening as other non-Cumulus stations are coming on board. I'm still hopeful that it can rebound though, and more ads this week would be great.
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