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Post by Spidey on Mar 1, 2015 13:19:24 GMT -5
Wait... we are just rushing into questions? I was going to prepare an opening speech lol.
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Post by ry4n on Mar 1, 2015 13:21:42 GMT -5
Wait... we are just rushing into questions? I was going to prepare an opening speech lol. Same. That's why I just posted mine anyway. You might as well post yours too haha.
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Post by Zeebz on Mar 1, 2015 13:54:05 GMT -5
Wait... we are just rushing into questions? I was going to prepare an opening speech lol. Prepare a speech and then we'll get the ball rolling. :) Okay and this thirsty zebra talk can go on.
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Post by josh on Mar 1, 2015 14:04:09 GMT -5
I guess I got confused and was thinking you gave speeches later oops Spidey post it whenever you're ready
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Post by Spidey on Mar 1, 2015 21:23:31 GMT -5
I haven't had time to get to this today. Been a busy Sunday. My apologies.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Mar 2, 2015 16:57:51 GMT -5
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Post by Zeebz on Mar 4, 2015 3:31:24 GMT -5
Spidey do you still want to prepare a speech?
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Post by josh on Mar 4, 2015 12:03:20 GMT -5
Jury questions will start being posted after midnight.
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Post by Spidey on Mar 4, 2015 21:58:51 GMT -5
Spidey do you still want to prepare a speech? Ahhhhh just saw this. Been a busy week :(
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Post by Zeebz on Mar 4, 2015 22:04:52 GMT -5
It's okay. Could you post a quick one now?
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Post by Spidey on Mar 4, 2015 23:27:21 GMT -5
Apologies if there are typos. I would've composed something better if I wasn't in a hurry (hence the lack of gifs): Hey guys! I want to start off by saying that Josh & Zebra, you both did a wonderful job putting this game on. I know it is not easy and this has been difficult season to manage. So thank you guys for all of your hard work in making this a huge success. When I came into this game, I had one goal in mind - make it to the end and win. I knew I wasn't going to be a challenge dominator so I knew I had to use my way with words to last in this game and being that I am in the final two, I'd say I was pretty successful. I made an alliance of four consisting of myself, Indulge, Popstop and Ryan and it proved to be rather strong. We worked well together, comprised four of the six people in the final 6 and for the most part were loyal, except for the backstabber right next to me, Ryan. I disagree with Ryan's sentiments that you have to throw your loyalty, integrity and friendships out the door in order to play this game. I didn't do that and I am sitting in the final two. In fact, I used my loyalty and friendships to further myself in this game and I still have my integrity intact. I tried to form a bond with each and every one of you. I think in a way I helped every single person's game on the jury. Though, once you became too big of threat, I had to send you packing. Mikey, I am so sorry for the way you had the way you had to leave this game. A unanimous vote is a tough one to go out on, particularly that early in the game. Max, you were someone who was a big threat in this game and yeah I played a part in your first eviction, but once you came back into the game and we started to talk again, I began to feel like you were someone I could trust. I want you to know that I voted to keep you during your second eviction, and the reason you went home is the guy sitting next to me. Invince, you were a tough cookie to get out of this game, but I knew it needed to happen. You were a huge threat. I pretty much knew that you had to have had something with Ryan and Fancy, oh... Ryan and Fancy... I knew you were aligned for a while, it really wasn't some shocker when you all told me at final 3, and that I needed to cut the head off the snake if you will. I truly respect you as a game player and I hope that you can respect the way I played the game and vote for me tonight. Indulge, I love you. The week you went home was the hardest for me because I knew if it wasn't you, it was me. This was the first time that I had to use my voice to keep myself in the game on eviction night. At this point, every single person had come up to me and told me that I was one of the biggest threats, if not the biggest. I should have gone home that night. Yet, I was able to stay in this game over someone who was playing a more quiet game and staying under the radar. I think that is true testament to my social game. I was able to convince a majority of you that it was smart to keep a huge threat in this game. Az, we never saw eye to eye. You were the only person that didn't approach me at the beginning of the game when I was HOH and when I tried to work with you, but you nominated me twice. I think if we had gotten the chance to work together, we would've done great things. Unfortunately, you were coming after me and it was clear you had to go. Popstop, seeing you sitting there makes me sad. You became a true friend to me in this game, one that will last forever, and you were loyal as hell to me. Fancy, in this game we did work together at times and I did my best to keep you around. There were a few times that you were nominated, that you would've gone gone home if I didn't try and save you. So think about that when you vote tonight. I didn't vote you out of this game, Ryan your supposed loyal, final 2, let's go to the end ally voted you out. I didn't need to betray my closest allies in this game in order to win it. I think that shows a lack in faith in the game you are playing. If all you can do is sit up and say hey - I backstabbed all of you and I won a few competitions at the end, I don't think that is a winning game speech. Saying that you maliciously f**ked up someone's game isn't really something to brag about. Ryan, you didn't fight to be in this game. You floated around for a while and let a bunch of people save your ass and when it came around for you to return the favor, you stuck a knife in their backs and laughed about it. You didn't have much of say of what went on. Your biggest achievement is voting out Max? Congrats? I was able to convince you to take me off the block at final four (until the producers f**ked me over...) and despite being the biggest threat left in the game... I was able to convince you to take me to the end, when you had the opportunity to show your loyalty to Fancy and not be a completely untrustworthy and deceitful bitch. Despite some producer fuckery, the death of my grandfather, my mother's cancer diagnosis and my father's heart problems which landed him in surgery, I was still able to play this game and use my strong social game to make it all the way to the end. I think I deserve it to win this game and I hope to get your votes to win tonight. Thank you for your time and I am ready to answer your questions. josh Zeebzry4nMikeyDevil Marlena Nylund@jf816 .indulgecountryAz PaynterpopstopFancy
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Mar 4, 2015 23:30:28 GMT -5
I expected 2 lines. wow!
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Post by ry4n on Mar 4, 2015 23:38:21 GMT -5
Lol. I have a lot to say that, but I think most of it will come out in the jury questions.
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Post by josh on Mar 4, 2015 23:43:42 GMT -5
ok first up is @jf816 My jury questions: For Spidey: When you were in alliances with popstop & indulge, did you let them shape your decisions, or were your decisions independent? For ry4n: How did you manage to escape the block every week in this game? Was it your own doing or was it more from the help of others?
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Post by josh on Mar 4, 2015 23:50:52 GMT -5
Devil Marlena Nylund you can post yours I'm posting Mikey's as well to try to speed things along Congrats both of you for making it to the final two! You two certainly have played a hell of a game. Sooooo, question time, isn't it? Sorry i couldn't ask these questions by myself i need to sleep and f**k around with my friends Spidey : I've seen you as a bug who stick to Pop for the entire game until Pop was down. I think you were going to be dropped from the house next, but you proved me wrong. That proves that you can play by yourself, a very important point that i took to my consideration. Also, you have been very loyal to your alliance, not backstabbing them, so i give you a thumb up for that. Anyways, lately i have seen Ryan favoring you, which means you two had a F2 deal. Am I right? Yes I'm right. Also, some jury members have noted that you played some kind of words game. That's smart and effective. All about you seems clear, so i'm not asking anything Okay, next is Ryan Ryan : I knew from your goodbye message that you and fancy had an alliance. idk if it's a F2 deal, but Fancy confirmed it, so yes. To me, your last hoh decision was idiotic. You backstabbed a long-lasting alliance just because you were afraid he would get more votes? Bullsh*t, we were discussing back and forth between you and Fancy. Spidey was out of contention (Sorry). As a result, you have lost 1 of the votes. My question(s), what did you do to ensure you were safe from the block each week? And also, were you closer to Pop's alliance, or to the others' side? Therefore i would say i will vote for Spidey, but if your answers are good, then you have a hope :) Sorry if these questions are kinda awkward. I don't have too much in mind.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 23:55:32 GMT -5
Don't be shocked if we have duplicate questions - we didn't go over them in the JH.
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Post by josh on Mar 4, 2015 23:57:28 GMT -5
despite me saying to
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Post by Zeebz on Mar 5, 2015 0:02:56 GMT -5
lmao
On another note, thanks for posting your speech, Spidey! :)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 0:09:07 GMT -5
I hope the voting process and all that goes by swiftly, I cannot wait to immerse myself within the greenroom qt.
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Post by ry4n on Mar 5, 2015 0:10:30 GMT -5
For ry4n: How did you manage to escape the block every week in this game? Was it your own doing or was it more from the help of others? [/quote] I'd be a fool to say that I didn't have any help at all. Any player saying otherwise would be lying or delusional lol. But I did do several things to keep myself in the game every week. I was aligned with practically everyone at one point or another. In week 1, I started off by PM-ing people I felt I could work with, which quickly brought me into two alliances - with popstop/Spidey/indulge and with you/Surf/Nick. I also had a side thing going on with Max. And soon had a side thing with Mikey when he was HoH. All of these people trusted me (at least I think they did), and that put me in the possibly the best position in the house. Nick was my #1 ally in this game. When he left, I felt like I was #4 in my Spidey/popstop/indulge alliance. I'm not sure if that was true or not, but that's how I felt at the time. That prompted me to try to flip the script and create a counter-alliance, starting with you and Fancy. I wasn't sure who else I wanted to bring into that alliance, but that was where I wanted to start. However, that didn't turn out so well. When my name got thrown under the mud after leaking the alliance, I knew I had to gain back my alliance's trust somehow. I did this by shoving all the blame on to you instead (sorry..), and you became the big target and not me. Why did I flop back to my alliance on that vote? Well, I soon realized that your side of the house simply had too many people on it. If I flipped, I would've been walking into a position where I'd be on or near the bottom of a 6(?) person alliance. The trio of you/Max/albie (which popstop confirmed to be in an alliance with) would've had all the power in the game. I would've had none. Popstop & Spidey wouldn't trust me anymore, and your side would've had no reason to keep me. That was way too dangerous. Me voting to keep indulge that week completely saved my game in so many ways. My alliance with Fancy help me in tremendous ways, as well. It worked because Fancy and I were aligned with opposite sides of the house. Spidey/popstop/indulge all trusted me and the outsiders all trusted Fancy. Because of this we were able to know everything that was going on in this game. That's a HUGE reason for why I aligned with him, and why I was able to stay in the game so long. I'd say Fancy played the most valuable role in my game. He was my partner in crime. And that is why I tried so hard to keep him in the game. I then got got rid of the right people at the right time, which allowed me to walk into my dream final 4: popstop, Fancy, and Spidey. All 3 of which I had a final 2 deal with. I was set. So basically, I was always able to put myself into a really good position throughout the entire game. That's how I escaped the block every week.
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Post by Spidey on Mar 5, 2015 0:21:37 GMT -5
My jury questions: For Spidey: When you were in alliances with popstop & indulge, did you let them shape your decisions, or were your decisions independent? My decisions throughout this game have been independent. Of course we discussed the game, that is the nature of an alliance, but I came into this game as an individual and I had to do what what was best for myself in this game in order to win. I brought my own ideas to the table and I was able to convince my allies that what I was saying was the right course of action. In fact, I was able to shape decisions that they made in this game, be it nominations, eviction votes, etc. Spidey : I've seen you as a bug who stick to Pop for the entire game until Pop was down. I think you were going to be dropped from the house next, but you proved me wrong. That proves that you can play by yourself, a very important point that i took to my consideration. Also, you have been very loyal to your alliance, not backstabbing them, so i give you a thumb up for that. Anyways, lately i have seen Ryan favoring you, which means you two had a F2 deal. Am I right? Yes I'm right. Also, some jury members have noted that you played some kind of words game. That's smart and effective. All about you seems clear, so i'm not asking anything Therefore i would say i will vote for Spidey, but if your answers are good, then you have a hope :) Mikey, thank you for your vote! I know you didn't ask a question, but I feel like I should address one of your comments. I was definitely not a bug who stuck to Popstop the entire game. I played a really strong game on my own. I was the one who formed the alliance consisting of myself, Ryan, Popstop and Indulge. I was the mastermind of our alliance, orchestrating moves throughout the game and figuring out who and when people needed to be evicted. I was the glue that stuck the alliance together. Without me, that alliance wouldn't have lasted more than a week or two. Yet, the four of us made it to the final six. I used my social game to not only help myself further in this game, but I made sure all of my allies continued to stay in the house as well. The smart move would have been to evict me early on in this game, yet here I am... sitting in the final 2. I also won two HOHs including the very first one. One that always makes you a huge target in this game. In fact, I nominated you the first week, you won HOH the very next week and I was able to convince you to keep me off block when I could have been an easy vote to go home that week.
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Post by ry4n on Mar 5, 2015 0:26:05 GMT -5
Okay, next is Ryan Ryan : I knew from your goodbye message that you and fancy had an alliance. idk if it's a F2 deal, but Fancy confirmed it, so yes. To me, your last hoh decision was idiotic. You backstabbed a long-lasting alliance just because you were afraid he would get more votes? Bullsh*t, we were discussing back and forth between you and Fancy. Spidey was out of contention (Sorry). As a result, you have lost 1 of the votes. My question(s), what did you do to ensure you were safe from the block each week? And also, were you closer to Pop's alliance, or to the others' side? Technically, I was aligned with Spidey since Day 1. And I did make a final 2 deal with him as well. So one could say I had a loyalty to both of them. Though I would say I was loyal to no one. I just answered that question lol. The other side. Nick, Invince, Fancy, etc were the ones I always wanted to work with more. I always saw popstop as a huge threat to win, and I always knew the Spidey/indulge pair were too close.
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Post by josh on Mar 5, 2015 0:35:23 GMT -5
ok well since you're both here and max left i'm posting his anyways Spidey: do you think you would have been able to reach final 2 without popstop? Part 2 to be asked as a follow up: Other than your reliance on your alliance with popstop, how do you think you were able to make it as far as you did? Ry4n: what alliances or in-game relationships do you think helped you most to get you to the final 2? Part 2: what was the biggest lie you told in the game?
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Mar 5, 2015 0:51:08 GMT -5
Sorry. I did come back though but no need. Going again. Can't wait for ya'lls responses. Smooches
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Post by Spidey on Mar 5, 2015 0:51:31 GMT -5
Spidey: do you think you would have been able to reach final 2 without popstop? Part 2 to be asked as a follow up: Other than your reliance on your alliance with popstop, how do you think you were able to make it as far as you did? Yes, I do think I could have made it to the end without Popstop. I mean the proof is here... I am in the Final 2 and Popstop is not here next to me. So yes, I do. We had a very strong partnership that did benefit the both of us, but at the same time I played this game on my own. I didn't rely on my alliance with Popstop. We just became friends... so why not work together? He also wasn't the only person I worked with in this game. I made it to the end on my own. My social game was my strong suit in this game. Without it, I would've been gone fairly early on in the game. I made it to the end because I was able to connect with people in the game, gain people's trust and convince them of my strategy. My response to Mikey's comments above might give some more insight:
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Mar 5, 2015 0:55:19 GMT -5
(my question was meant to highlight my impression that you played in pop's shadow for most of the game - at least he was the one I felt was more visible and more connected, or at the very least, the one held accountable and therefore treated as a target from my perspective so you definitely did benefit from him more than you might realize because of that. You were also only without him for a small portion of it when alliances don't even matter anymore. ) (i also don't know if i'm allowed to comment on answers so I'll leave this here in brackets and pretend it's okay)
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Post by ry4n on Mar 5, 2015 1:04:49 GMT -5
Ry4n: what alliances or in-game relationships do you think helped you most to get you to the final 2? Part 2: what was the biggest lie you told in the game? [/quote] Fancy was the most important for reasons I just explained. popstop, Invince, and Nick all played big roles as well. I don't think any of them were ever really after me. I always knew popstop was a huge threat to win, but I kept him around cuz I also knew he was on my side. That just meant I had to cut him late in the game. Invince and Nick were huge targets and there wasn't a lot I could've done about that. Oddly, I'd say my final 2 deal with Spidey. I never meant it, but it kept me in this game when I felt I was most dangerous at final 5-ish. I was always going to take someone to the end that I felt I could beat, so Spidey being here is sort of luck. I dragged him here. I set him up, first by voting to keep him over indulge, then by using the final 4 Veto on him, to take popstop out of the game for me. I knew this would make him an even more disliked player. He managed to make himself 10x more dislikeable by not even bothering to make a decision, though.
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Post by ry4n on Mar 5, 2015 1:08:43 GMT -5
I should add that I never meant any of my final 2 deals, though.
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Post by Spidey on Mar 5, 2015 1:11:38 GMT -5
(my question was meant to highlight my impression that you played in pop's shadow for most of the game - at least he was the one I felt was more visible and more connected, or at the very least, the one held accountable and therefore treated as a target from my perspective so you definitely did benefit from him more than you might realize because of that. You were also only without him for a small portion of it when alliances don't even matter anymore. ) (i also don't know if i'm allowed to comment on answers so I'll leave this here in brackets and pretend it's okay) I didn't play in his shadow though... that is the point I am trying to make. I know what people thought of Popstop. He was a huge threat. There is no doubt about it. We helped each other in this game for sure, but it was not like I wasn't playing a strong game throughout on my own. I had to keep my best interests at heart in order to get far in this game. My mark on this game was made quite visible by who was nominated and who was evicted throughout the game. We didn't agree on everything. A major example would be Az. I wanted him gone from the game, for obvious reasons, while Popstop did not. I was able to not only convince Popstop to nominate him for eviction twice, but I was able to convince Popstop to vote out Az when I nominated him for eviction. That move helped my game immensely, while it totally hindered Popstop's. He lost the one other person in this game advocating for him to stay.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Mar 5, 2015 1:25:37 GMT -5
That's the thing because up until nowish, I always felt that you were in his shadow. We didn't really interact other than when I interacted with popstop and nearly everything I heard from anyone else about you always had popstop mentioned too. I saw you both as a pair but with popstop being the more visible one. Whether or not that's wrong, I'm sure it is because what anyone perceives in Big Brother is going to be inaccurate, but then even still, what people perceive is what they're going to make their decisions on. I would say having popstop as your main ally helped you because he was always a bigger target than you. That isn't a knock against your gameplay. Though, for a long time I thought of you as a major floater but then you did win competitions and when I think back on it now, sticking to a more present and visible player like popstop was a good strategy, even if that wasn't your intention, and either way, you made it to final 2. It might simply come down to us disagreeing how you did it.
Anyway, thank you for your answer to my question. lol. It's definitely helpful in how I will try to fit together all the missing pieces that I get with these Q&As. I honestly haven't made up my mind yet so I will be reading these all over again a few times before I vote.
Good luck!
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