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Post by jjose712 on Feb 13, 2015 17:32:25 GMT -5
Woah. 500k without a smash single on radio? It looks like surprise releases are going to be the new thing with sales like this. It isn't always going to work. Drake is one of the biggest artists in music right now and has a massive online following plus multiple giant singles on radio currently and in the past couple of months. Everyone has been extremely hungry for new Drake material. He is one of the rare exceptions to the rule in which he can open without a true single. And it depends of the type of artist too, what it works for Beyonce not necessarily works for Adele even if she is a big artist too Drake is not exactly a fave of mine (but i like some of his songs) but the chart needed a good shake, so good for him
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Post by ILLUSION on Feb 13, 2015 18:36:53 GMT -5
And that is why the Billboard journalists don't write anything for definite until it happens (e.g. 1989 "may go #1 this week) *drops mic* Well, to be fair, he did surprise-drop the album. It's not like they are anticipating a big-name artist to surprise everyone and drop new music every week
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Feb 13, 2015 18:48:25 GMT -5
It isn't always going to work. Drake is one of the biggest artists in music right now and has a massive online following plus multiple giant singles on radio currently and in the past couple of months. Everyone has been extremely hungry for new Drake material. He is one of the rare exceptions to the rule in which he can open without a true single. And it depends of the type of artist too, what it works for Beyonce not necessarily works for Adele even if she is a big artist too Drake is not exactly a fave of mine (but i like some of his songs) but the chart needed a good shake, so good for him You definitely need to have a fanbase demo that won't mind it only being available digitally (at least initially) and is plugged in to social media for word of mouth. D'Angelo's more or less suprise album did well, probably better than it would have if it had been released normally, but it didn't didn't work for Fabolus' surprise Christmas release, which only opened with 71k.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Feb 13, 2015 19:35:23 GMT -5
Wow @ Drake
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Post by brady47 on Feb 13, 2015 22:56:45 GMT -5
I wonder if Drake can take the "surprise album release" strategy one step further by having a strong singles run. Beyonce kind of fell flat after Drunk in Love.
Beyonce did the surprise album release first, so now I think it's about who can pull off the surprise album release AND have a strong singles run to keep up the momentum of the album.
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Post by icefire9 on Feb 13, 2015 23:33:05 GMT -5
I wonder if Drake can take the "surprise album release" strategy one step further by having a strong singles run. Beyonce kind of fell flat after Drunk in Love. Beyonce did the surprise album release first, so now I think it's about who can pull off the surprise album release AND have a strong singles run to keep up the momentum of the album. Well, you'd have to have a large, loyal, and connected fanbase that would be willing to buy digital albums, but also be more of a Pop staple than Beyonce is. I think Taylor Swift could make it work, but when your opening week is a million albums anyway, whats the point? Anyway, Drake's previous albums have done pretty well on the singles front, so I don't see why he couldn't replicate it now.
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Post by DJ General on Feb 14, 2015 0:01:41 GMT -5
The album is so good
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 14, 2015 0:19:19 GMT -5
It definitely takes a certain kind of artist to pull this off as there's a lot of pre-determined criteria that would be needed to make it happen. Big enough name for the buzz of a sudden new album to take on a life of its own, not reliant on physical album sales, generally a younger audience who would buy digital, and I argue an artist who isn't already at the top of their game (which is why I doubt Adele would do this).
When I wrote a blog post about this after U2 released their album, I narrowed it down to Gaga, Britney, Bruno Mars or Madonna as artists likely to drop a surprise album. I never considered Drake, I don't think.
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Post by Wavey✨️ on Feb 14, 2015 1:01:58 GMT -5
I think Wayne could pull a surprise release of the next Carter.
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Post by funkpunkandroll on Feb 14, 2015 2:01:33 GMT -5
Drake has pulled it off in a most unlikely fashion... his fan base goes strong for him... which makes Kendrick Lamar's upcoming release even more exciting.
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Post by jjose712 on Feb 14, 2015 5:49:10 GMT -5
It definitely takes a certain kind of artist to pull this off as there's a lot of pre-determined criteria that would be needed to make it happen. Big enough name for the buzz of a sudden new album to take on a life of its own, not reliant on physical album sales, generally a younger audience who would buy digital, and I argue an artist who isn't already at the top of their game (which is why I doubt Adele would do this). When I wrote a blog post about this after U2 released their album, I narrowed it down to Gaga, Britney, Bruno Mars or Madonna as artists likely to drop a surprise album. I never considered Drake, I don't think. Yes, singers with a big adult fanbase, no matter how popular they are, should not pull a surprise release because a big part of their sales is physical and a big part of their fans are not following them by minute so probably won't realize they released an album for a while. Bieber on the peak of his popularity could do that, now it's simply too risky for him. It seems hip hop artists can do that because their fans are usually very young, but i don't see a pure pop singer pulling a surprise release anytime soon, it's simply too risky because if it fails handicap the whole era
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Post by jjose712 on Feb 14, 2015 5:51:10 GMT -5
I think Wayne could pull a surprise release of the next Carter. Umm, i think he has enough problems with his label to even think on that
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Post by DJ General on Feb 14, 2015 12:38:00 GMT -5
In terms of rap artists, even before this, I would have considered Drake.
I'd pick Eminem, Drake, Lil' Wayne, and Kanye West as the sure shots that could easily scan upwards of 500,000 in a full week with a surprise album.
Others with decent-ish chances: Jay-Z... and then further down Kendrick Lamar, J. Cole and then even further MAYBE 2 Chainz. lol
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 14, 2015 12:45:56 GMT -5
Yeah, Kanye seems like an almost definite rapper to attempt this.
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Post by brady47 on Feb 14, 2015 13:06:31 GMT -5
I wonder if Drake can take the "surprise album release" strategy one step further by having a strong singles run. Beyonce kind of fell flat after Drunk in Love. Beyonce did the surprise album release first, so now I think it's about who can pull off the surprise album release AND have a strong singles run to keep up the momentum of the album. Well, you'd have to have a large, loyal, and connected fanbase that would be willing to buy digital albums, but also be more of a Pop staple than Beyonce is. I think Taylor Swift could make it work, but when your opening week is a million albums anyway, whats the point? Anyway, Drake's previous albums have done pretty well on the singles front, so I don't see why he couldn't replicate it now. yes, I don't see why Taylor should try it, I think it could work out for Britney Spears, especially if the album was high quality and had strong singles like Toxic and Everytime.
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Post by funkpunkandroll on Feb 14, 2015 13:43:11 GMT -5
There's few artists who can pull it off. That's why many don't try it.
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Post by pnobelysk on Feb 14, 2015 15:46:28 GMT -5
I wonder if Drake can take the "surprise album release" strategy one step further by having a strong singles run. Beyonce kind of fell flat after Drunk in Love. Beyonce did the surprise album release first, so now I think it's about who can pull off the surprise album release AND have a strong singles run to keep up the momentum of the album. She has a huge era on urban . She really just didn't have much interest in pop success this time
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Post by surfy on Feb 14, 2015 16:52:32 GMT -5
The album is great and the sales are fantastic! SMASH DRAKE!
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Post by grandelf on Feb 14, 2015 20:05:08 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6472931/drake-surprise-album-heading-for-over-half-million-sales-debutDrake's Surprise Album Heading For Over Half-Million Sales Debut at No. 1By Keith Caulfield | February 14, 2015 2:15 PM EST The sales of Drake's surprise album If You're Reading This It's Too Late continue to pile up. Industry sources now project (as of Feb. 14) that the album will likely sell more than 500,000 copies by the end of the tracking week on Feb. 15 -- with a serious chance that number could end up even bigger. Yesterday, the set was aiming for 400,000. The effort was released late in the evening on Thursday (Feb. 12) to digital retailers through Young Money/Cash Money/Republic Records. It should easily debut at No. 1 next week's Billboard 200 chart, giving Drake his fourth No. 1 (and fourth consecutive leader to debut atop the list). The Billboard 200 chart ranks the most popular albums of the week based on multi-metric consumption, which includes traditional album sales, track equivalent albums (TEA) and streaming equivalent albums (SEA). The new Billboard 200's top 10 albums (for the week ending Feb. 15) will be revealed on Feb. 18. Remarkably, If You're Reading This It's Too Late could tally the second-largest sales week for an album in the past year -- and would do so with less than four days of sales (since it was released in the middle of the week, instead of the traditional Tuesday, when most new releases arrive to retail). The biggest sales frame of the last year was registered by Taylor Swift's 1989, which sold 1.287 million copies, according to Nielsen Music, in its first week (which was actually a full seven days, as the album was released on a Monday).
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Feb 14, 2015 21:07:06 GMT -5
HITS:
The iTunes charts at last reflect the sudden explosion that is Drake's, um, "mixtaple" The explicit version of If You're Reading This It's Too Late (YMCM/Republic) hits #1 (with the clean version at #10 hard-charging track "Energy" moving on the singles side).
Early forecasts for next week, when it will make both of our charts its girlfriend, are 550k+, while Republic believes it could hit the 700k mark. Could Drizzy beat the 618k bow of Beyonce's sneak attack album?
His 2013 set, Nothing Was the Same, debuted with 658k.
Sandwiched precisely between the two versions of Drake's monster is indie phenom Jacob Whitesides. The unsigned, Billy Mann-managed viral breakout, who's opened for Fifth Harmony, has leveraged his social-media campaigns to catapult his EP to #1 on iTunes' singer/songwriter chart--and now onto the big board.
Republic has another big album player in Florence + the Machine, who hit the Top 10 in pre-order.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Feb 14, 2015 21:26:40 GMT -5
Pretty big gap between 550 and 700. I would think they'd have a pretty good idea by now of how much it is selling considering it's only available from one outlet.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Feb 14, 2015 21:39:54 GMT -5
Pretty big gap between 550 and 700. I would think they'd have a pretty good idea by now of how much it is selling considering it's only available from one outlet. It's not just one outlet -it's on Amazon and Google Play (and #1 on both).
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Post by anafan on Feb 14, 2015 23:41:53 GMT -5
Impressive numbers for Drake.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 0:48:55 GMT -5
It definitely takes a certain kind of artist to pull this off as there's a lot of pre-determined criteria that would be needed to make it happen. Big enough name for the buzz of a sudden new album to take on a life of its own, not reliant on physical album sales, generally a younger audience who would buy digital, and I argue an artist who isn't already at the top of their game (which is why I doubt Adele would do this). When I wrote a blog post about this after U2 released their album, I narrowed it down to Gaga, Britney, Bruno Mars or Madonna as artists likely to drop a surprise album. I never considered Drake, I don't think. Funny, I'm thinking aback on all the various speculations people here threw out as far as people who could or would do it, and I believe few (maybe no?) posters suggested rappers when that should have been the first genre we threw out there. Even before Beyonce, Jay and Kanye had done the digitial-only release for Watch the Throne's first week and that did well...hip-hop fans, once they commit to someone, are a pretty loyal bunch and willing to get a digital instead of physical copy if they have to. And I can see why Republic is thinking 700k for Drake is possible. Nothing Was the Same opened up with 658k, Drake is at the peak of his popularity, and the anticipation for his next album was already there. Wayne theoretically could pull it off, but didn't he say when he announced he was trying to leave Cash Money that the label wouldn't release his album? So it's not really an option for him. Actually I think Nicki could/maybe should do it...people would be even more caught off guard with her because she isn't even finished with her current era. But with the rumor being that this is Drake fulfilling his contract to be done with CM, I think a lot of people would be just as intrigued by all the drama if Nicki followed suit.
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Post by swim on Feb 15, 2015 7:56:11 GMT -5
This is shaping up to be quite the first quarter. Imagine Dragons, Kelly Clarkson and Madonna coming up guarantees more six-figure first week debuts.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Feb 15, 2015 9:22:59 GMT -5
I don't necessarily think kelly is guaranteed a 100+ debut. Presales aren't strong (143 right now on iTunes) and the single has only performed moderately. With the right promo she might be able to do it, but I don't think her name alone is necessarily worth 6 figures anymore
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Post by surfy on Feb 15, 2015 13:18:01 GMT -5
I think KELLY will make 100K once the iTunes promo starts.
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Post by DJ General on Feb 15, 2015 15:45:32 GMT -5
Yes, Kelly is surely 100,000 lock.
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