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Post by No Brake$ on Jul 6, 2015 18:54:52 GMT -5
Sorry, and by "this song", I meant XAmbassadors. Sedona is too new, but I have liked it quite a bit since I heard it. I can't imagine anything mainstream Hot AC or CHR success though.
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Post by Troy on Jul 6, 2015 20:08:29 GMT -5
ok, i admit...as much as i rag on X Ambassadors & the AAA-crossovers...i really don't hate them...its just that they bore me...i can deal with it as background music, but i just don't want it for active listening
now, don't get me wrong...i think that the AAA chart has some awesome tunes on it, but most of the ones that crossover to Alt are just dull as dishwater
i think there are quite a few Alt radio listeners in this same boat & since these songs don't drive us away (unless/until they get overplayed), then they can pull in more of the casual listeners that like this stuff a lot more than me w/o getting me to necessarily turn the channel
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jul 7, 2015 0:05:47 GMT -5
You guys are getting the definition of payola wrong. These are examples of payola, when songs peak high and then collapse and ending up having little recurrent airplay.
18 32 ALABAMA SHAKES Don't Wanna Fight 425 784 -359 1.229 15 23 FLORENCE + THE MACHINE What Kind Of Man 621 1172 -551 2.102 15 31 INCUBUS Absolution Calling 278 627 -349 0.977
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jul 7, 2015 1:19:03 GMT -5
Im gonna post something extensive because this is how strongly I feel about the Alt chart slowing morphing into another AAA chart. I think Payola and following corporate playlists are the same. You are still forced to spin certain songs. I think it also has to do where in the states you live in and what your Alternative Station plays. First point ;and I use 91x, cuz; basically, that's the one I get. They span all throughout Baja California into deeper regions of Mexico D.F. I'll say that where I live; hardly anyone likes the folky/Alt stuff. It's mostly the Pop crowd that listens to those. I'll leave a link of a fan in Peru who does an extensive research of Alt /Rock in the Hispanic crowd. stereorockreloaded.blogspot.mx/2015_06_01_archive.html. You'll notice no Folky stuff, but alot of what I've charted so far and what 91x plays. makes sense right? After all;I live in the 91x region. Point 2. 91x. Before they went independent; they played the top Alt hits even the folky ones like "Budapest" "Stolen Dance" ect..That is what they meant by following corporate playlist. To me that's almost the same as payola. Even if no money exchanges hands; which is illegal, to begin with; they are being told what to play and how many times to play em. You don't even need fan requests when it comes down to it. Now that they are independent; they seem to have discarded of those songs even from their recurrent playlist. Why? At the same time, Songs like "Out Of My League", "Trojans" and songs from Lorde are spun at a regular basis. What does that tell you? It tells me that even though they are independent; those are songs they feel, fit the Alt climate just right, while those other ones; throw them off course. So you have an independent alt station, that obviously views the media base charts, but picks out the songs they want, rather than what they were forced to play before... and how do they practice that free will? By choosing songs like "Could Have Been Me", "Little Monster","Moaning Lisa Smile" "the Ground Walks..." They only choose to spin 5 songs from the top 10 and those do not include "Ex's and Ohs" and certainly not, "Renegades". They threw "belive" out as soon as they went independent, but do spin the more alt soundind "The Wolf" Bottom line is; you have an established Alt rock station: on the air since 1983, that for some reason decided that ; the number one song on the Alt charts; "Renegades" will not get Alt radio airplay. Like I said; we don't like that stuff over here and do not request them either. I believe the truth has come out, now that they have gone independent. I bet my life that is a station like KROQ went independent; they would follow same route. Away with the Milky Chances and Vance Joys'sand bring back the Rise Against, RHCP's,STP,and Green Days songs that keep the Alt chart from turning into another AAA chart. It's time to make a stand for your beloved genre. That is if you care? ;)
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jul 7, 2015 1:21:53 GMT -5
^^^^ You're not answering the question. Are all indie folk songs payola-ed?
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jul 7, 2015 1:44:20 GMT -5
And I'm going to post my thoughts on Alternative.
It's been frustrating coming into threads to discuss artists and songs and their chart performance and to have each and every one be met with the same discussion about how terrible and awful they are and how much they don't belong on Alternative. It's not one thread. It hasn't even been five. It's been nearly every AAA-to-Alt crossover since last year. As someone who comes into this forum mostly for the AAA hits (and some of the more typical standard Alternative songs by artists like Florence and, as I recently discovered #late, Muse), I come to talk about the songs I enjoy, the artists they're by and their chart runs. I know not everyone will like the same songs I do and that is never the issue. The issue is the obvious trolling that takes place in literally every single one of these threads. Is there not a "The State of Alternative Radio" thread? Make one. Discuss it there. I, along with others I'm sure, would gladly discuss the stuff in there where it makes more sense rather than rehashing the same 5 points over and over and over again in every single damn thread making it impossible for anyone to actually discuss the song and artist the thread is meant to actually be about!
I think the thing that gets me is that people continue to complain about it over and over. If I went to a corner store and gradually realized I don't like it there anymore because the longtime shopkeep hired a younger cashier to work days instead, I'm probably going to start going to a different store instead. I'll miss the old one but things change. I'm not going to go stand outside that corner store and complain about the new cashier to their current customers as they go in and make them listen to how much I hate it and how much I'm being inconvenienced because I don't like how he counts change and hands me my lotto tickets. I'm going to just say my piece, be done with it and go to the new store. Granted, I'm probably just as guilty as I've been complaining about the complainers now for almost as long.
Either way, a select few of you are actively ruining the Alternative forum for others who actually want to discuss stuff.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jul 7, 2015 1:51:23 GMT -5
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jul 7, 2015 1:53:03 GMT -5
^^^^ You're not answering the question. Are all indie folk songs payola-ed? In a way I did. I'm saying payola is much the same as being forced to play a song on a corporate playlists. I don't believe in "Payola" in the smaller genre charts, nor do I wanna use that term, or else I would lose all faith in music. I do believe Alt stations are given corporate playlists from up above and have to follow them even though they might not like them. They either folllow them or they are out of a job. I am making the strong assumption; that if most Alt stations went independent, they would go "Cold Turkey" on those indie/Folk crossovers. I am saying that if they could make their playlists; they would not include those songs. Including this "Sedona" song, which I even forgot the thread is about. Ask yourself this question? If you ran an alt station and you didn't have to follow a corporate playlist, would you play those indie crossover songs Vance Joy , Houndmouth, ect...? We should probly take this one to that thread Daryl posted? Don't wanna hurt anyone's feelings. just saying
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jul 7, 2015 1:58:00 GMT -5
^^^^ You're not answering the question. Are all indie folk songs payola-ed? In a way I did. I'm saying payola is much the same as being forced to play a song on a corporate playlists. I don't believe in "Payola" in the smaller genre charts, nor do I wanna use that term, or else I would lose all faith in music. I do believe Alt stations are given corporate playlists from up above and have to follow them even though they might not like them. They either folllow them or they are out of a job. I am making the strong assumption; that if most Alt stations went independent, they would go "Cold Turkey" on those indie/Folk crossovers. I am saying that if they could make their playlists; they would not include those songs. Including this "Sedona" song, which I even forgot the thread is about. Ask yourself this question? If you ran an alt station and you didn't have to follow a corporate playlist, would you play those indie crossover songs Vance Joy , Houndmouth, ect...? Yes, if listeners like them.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jul 7, 2015 8:53:54 GMT -5
^^^^ You're not answering the question. Are all indie folk songs payola-ed? In a way I did. I'm saying payola is much the same as being forced to play a song on a corporate playlists. I don't believe in "Payola" in the smaller genre charts, nor do I wanna use that term, or else I would lose all faith in music. I do believe Alt stations are given corporate playlists from up above and have to follow them even though they might not like them. They either folllow them or they are out of a job. I am making the strong assumption; that if most Alt stations went independent, they would go "Cold Turkey" on those indie/Folk crossovers. I am saying that if they could make their playlists; they would not include those songs. Including this "Sedona" song, which I even forgot the thread is about. Ask yourself this question? If you ran an alt station and you didn't have to follow a corporate playlist, would you play those indie crossover songs Vance Joy , Houndmouth, ect...? We should probly take this one to that thread Daryl posted? Don't wanna hurt anyone's feelings. just saying No, my feelings aren't hurt. It seems yours are though.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jul 7, 2015 9:01:27 GMT -5
Im gonna post something extensive because this is how strongly I feel about the Alt chart slowing morphing into another AAA chart. I think Payola and following corporate playlists are the same. You are still forced to spin certain songs. I think it also has to do where in the states you live in and what your Alternative Station plays. First point ;and I use 91x, cuz; basically, that's the one I get. They span all throughout Baja California into deeper regions of Mexico D.F. I'll say that where I live; hardly anyone likes the folky/Alt stuff. It's mostly the Pop crowd that listens to those. I'll leave a link of a fan in Peru who does an extensive research of Alt /Rock in the Hispanic crowd. stereorockreloaded.blogspot.mx/2015_06_01_archive.html. You'll notice no Folky stuff, but alot of what I've charted so far and what 91x plays. makes sense right? After all;I live in the 91x region. Point 2. 91x. Before they went independent; they played the top Alt hits even the folky ones like "Budapest" "Stolen Dance" ect..That is what they meant by following corporate playlist. To me that's almost the same as payola. Even if no money exchanges hands; which is illegal, to begin with; they are being told what to play and how many times to play em. You don't even need fan requests when it comes down to it. Now that they are independent; they seem to have discarded of those songs even from their recurrent playlist. Why? At the same time, Songs like "Out Of My League", "Trojans" and songs from Lorde are spun at a regular basis. What does that tell you? It tells me that even though they are independent; those are songs they feel, fit the Alt climate just right, while those other ones; throw them off course. So you have an independent alt station, that obviously views the media base charts, but picks out the songs they want, rather than what they were forced to play before... and how do they practice that free will? By choosing songs like "Could Have Been Me", "Little Monster","Moaning Lisa Smile" "the Ground Walks..." They only choose to spin 5 songs from the top 10 and those do not include "Ex's and Ohs" and certainly not, "Renegades". They threw "belive" out as soon as they went independent, but do spin the more alt soundind "The Wolf" Bottom line is; you have an established Alt rock station: on the air since 1983, that for some reason decided that ; the number one song on the Alt charts; "Renegades" will not get Alt radio airplay. Like I said; we don't like that stuff over here and do not request them either. I believe the truth has come out, now that they have gone independent. I bet my life that is a station like KROQ went independent; they would follow same route. Away with the Milky Chances and Vance Joys'sand bring back the Rise Against, RHCP's,STP,and Green Days songs that keep the Alt chart from turning into another AAA chart. It's time to make a stand for your beloved genre. That is if you care? ;) The bolded parts are generalising, and 91x is just one station. I still firmly believe in my definition of payola (as seen in the Florence, Incubus and Alabama Shakes examples) and not yours. And the reason why the folk songs are doing well is because listeners like them. They have high callout scores (http://www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/call/index.asp). Moaning Lisa Smile has the third least positive % among the currents, and Uma Thurman and Shots have poor callout scores too. Renegades and Ex's & Oh's have the highest positive %, showing that listeners do want these songs to be played more often. So, if listeners like them, why aren't radio stations playing more of these songs? Isn't that NOT payola?
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Post by ben777 on Jul 7, 2015 12:57:41 GMT -5
The thing about San Diego is it already has a commercial AlternaPop station, KBZT, which is spinning Renegades 84x a week. 91X is more like a harder-edged AAA, in that they're biggest hits aren't tracks that are commercially successful - it's almost like a different format than the one reflected by the Alt chart
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jul 8, 2015 0:02:06 GMT -5
Im gonna post something extensive because this is how strongly I feel about the Alt chart slowing morphing into another AAA chart. I think Payola and following corporate playlists are the same. You are still forced to spin certain songs. I think it also has to do where in the states you live in and what your Alternative Station plays. First point ;and I use 91x, cuz; basically, that's the one I get. They span all throughout Baja California into deeper regions of Mexico D.F. I'll say that where I live; hardly anyone likes the folky/Alt stuff. It's mostly the Pop crowd that listens to those. I'll leave a link of a fan in Peru who does an extensive research of Alt /Rock in the Hispanic crowd. stereorockreloaded.blogspot.mx/2015_06_01_archive.html. You'll notice no Folky stuff, but alot of what I've charted so far and what 91x plays. makes sense right? After all;I live in the 91x region. Point 2. 91x. Before they went independent; they played the top Alt hits even the folky ones like "Budapest" "Stolen Dance" ect..That is what they meant by following corporate playlist. To me that's almost the same as payola. Even if no money exchanges hands; which is illegal, to begin with; they are being told what to play and how many times to play em. You don't even need fan requests when it comes down to it. Now that they are independent; they seem to have discarded of those songs even from their recurrent playlist. Why? At the same time, Songs like "Out Of My League", "Trojans" and songs from Lorde are spun at a regular basis. What does that tell you? It tells me that even though they are independent; those are songs they feel, fit the Alt climate just right, while those other ones; throw them off course. So you have an independent alt station, that obviously views the media base charts, but picks out the songs they want, rather than what they were forced to play before... and how do they practice that free will? By choosing songs like "Could Have Been Me", "Little Monster","Moaning Lisa Smile" "the Ground Walks..." They only choose to spin 5 songs from the top 10 and those do not include "Ex's and Ohs" and certainly not, "Renegades". They threw "belive" out as soon as they went independent, but do spin the more alt soundind "The Wolf" Bottom line is; you have an established Alt rock station: on the air since 1983, that for some reason decided that ; the number one song on the Alt charts; "Renegades" will not get Alt radio airplay. Like I said; we don't like that stuff over here and do not request them either. I believe the truth has come out, now that they have gone independent. I bet my life that is a station like KROQ went independent; they would follow same route. Away with the Milky Chances and Vance Joys'sand bring back the Rise Against, RHCP's,STP,and Green Days songs that keep the Alt chart from turning into another AAA chart. It's time to make a stand for your beloved genre. That is if you care? ;) The bolded parts are generalising, and 91x is just one station. I still firmly believe in my definition of payola (as seen in the Florence, Incubus and Alabama Shakes examples) and not yours. And the reason why the folk songs are doing well is because listeners like them. They have high callout scores (http://www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/call/index.asp). Moaning Lisa Smile has the third least positive % among the currents, and Uma Thurman and Shots have poor callout scores too. Renegades and Ex's & Oh's have the highest positive %, showing that listeners do want these songs to be played more often. So, if listeners like them, why aren't radio stations playing more of these songs? Isn't that NOT payola? I believe the alt radio stations that don't play too much of the Indie /Folk; weather or not a number of fans like them, are simply fighting fire with fire. Going against the current and for good reason. To stop these AAA crossovers from taking over the core acts of the Alternative charts. and no I'm not generalizing. I just told you that 91x is the station that mostly covers my region and across the border. If the folky stuff isn't getting played; its mainly because its not popular. At least not with the Hispanic crowd in my region...and I seriously doubt that people are blowing up the lines requesting "Renagades" ,"Sedona" ect... and Stations like 91x just ignore it. Or maybe they do? I don't know? Just look at thier online playlist. You can scroll down up untill the wee hours of the night and see for yourself. No Indie folk. No #1 Alt chart song. So there must be some fact to what I'm saying? and it's not just us on pulse. That is a complete false. I know alot of people that don't particulalry like the indie /folk. Remeber I'm a music promoter and facebook and twitter all the time. Part of what I do is take polls. ..and you know me. I'll straight out ask questions like: "what do you think about the #1 song on alt this week? What are your thoughts on the Offspring completely missing out on The Alt top 10? "What about these X-Ambassadors taking alt by storm?"Many don't even know who X Ambassadors are. At least not in the Hispanic region. peeps say that Mexico is slow on progression. Well at least about this I'm glad they are. So as I first statrted out saying. It's all boils down to what part of the world or U.S. you live in. Why don't we all post the top hits that our Alt stations are playing. Not to prove anyone wrong, but to compare. I go first. xetra.tunegenie.com/tophits/The top 10 would be from "Tear In My Heart" to "Reapers" These are also the ones we request.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jul 8, 2015 0:09:19 GMT -5
The bolded parts are generalising, and 91x is just one station. I still firmly believe in my definition of payola (as seen in the Florence, Incubus and Alabama Shakes examples) and not yours. And the reason why the folk songs are doing well is because listeners like them. They have high callout scores (http://www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/call/index.asp). Moaning Lisa Smile has the third least positive % among the currents, and Uma Thurman and Shots have poor callout scores too. Renegades and Ex's & Oh's have the highest positive %, showing that listeners do want these songs to be played more often. So, if listeners like them, why aren't radio stations playing more of these songs? Isn't that NOT payola? I believe the alt radio stations that don't play too much of the Indie /Folk; weather or not a number of fans like them, are simply fighting fire with fire. Going against the current and for good reason. To stop these AAA crossovers from taking over the core acts of the Alternative charts. and no I'm not generalizing. I just told you that 91x is the station that mostly covers my region and across the border. If the folky stuff isn't getting played; its mainly because its not popular. At least not with the Hispanic crowd in my region...and I seriously doubt that people are blowing up the lines requesting "Renagades" ,"Sedona" ect... and Stations like 91x just ignore it. Or maybe they do? I don't know? Just look at thier online playlist. You can scroll down up untill the wee hours of the night and see for yourself. No Indie folk. No #1 Alt chart song. So there must be some fact to what I'm saying? and it's not just us on pulse. That is a complete false. I know alot of people that don't particulalry like the indie /folk. Remeber I'm a music promoter and facebook and twitter all the time. Part of what I do is take polls. ..and you know me. I'll straight out ask questions like: "what do you think about the #1 song on alt this week? What are your thoughts on the Offspring completely missing out on The Alt top 10? "What about these X-Ambassadors taking alt by storm?"Many don't even know who X Ambassadors are. At least not in the Hispanic region. peeps say that Mexico is slow on progression. Well at least about this I'm glad they are. So as I first statrted out saying. It's all boils down to what part of the world or U.S. you live in. Why don't we all post the top hits that our Alt stations are playing. Not to prove anyone wrong, but to compare. I go first. xetra.tunegenie.com/tophits/The top 10 would be from "Tear In My Heart" to "Reapers" These are also the ones we request. *sigh* Dr. Indie, I'm tired of explaining to you again and again. When I said you're generalising, I mean that you're just looking at one station. What about the alt stations in the rest of America?
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jul 8, 2015 0:51:11 GMT -5
I quite enjoy this song now. It sounds like something you'd hear in some random early 20-something coming of age movie or tv series. I hope my local alt and AAA stations both start playing it soon.
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Post by ben777 on Jul 8, 2015 0:59:23 GMT -5
Dr. Indie- maybe what 91X is doing is working, and other stations like it will start popping up across the country - but IMO it's really not the same format as most of the other Alt stations on the panel - the only reason it can get away with purposely playing songs that aren't commercial hits is bc there's another station in San Diego that is playing commercial Alt hits - There are tons of people in San Diego who like X Ambassadors, and apparently they all listen to KBZT, because it spins Renegades 84 times a week (which is pretty crazy lol) - but I guess 91X is getting the people who don't
I'm all for more stations like 91X, but IMO there's no way the more commercial Alternative stations are going to flip - maybe Triple A's should flip to a 91X-style format, or maybe they should start creating new 91X-style stations to compete with the AlternaPop ones
Also, I'm really confused about the "AAA-crossovers" taking over the Alt chart posts, because the only AAA crossovers on the Alt chart are Sedona, Don't Wanna Fight, and Hold Back The River, and 91X is playing Don't Wanna Fight - Renegades is trailing on AAA compared to Alternative, so it's def not a AAA crossover
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jul 8, 2015 23:31:04 GMT -5
I believe the alt radio stations that don't play too much of the Indie /Folk; weather or not a number of fans like them, are simply fighting fire with fire. Going against the current and for good reason. To stop these AAA crossovers from taking over the core acts of the Alternative charts. and no I'm not generalizing. I just told you that 91x is the station that mostly covers my region and across the border. If the folky stuff isn't getting played; its mainly because its not popular. At least not with the Hispanic crowd in my region...and I seriously doubt that people are blowing up the lines requesting "Renagades" ,"Sedona" ect... and Stations like 91x just ignore it. Or maybe they do? I don't know? Just look at thier online playlist. You can scroll down up untill the wee hours of the night and see for yourself. No Indie folk. No #1 Alt chart song. So there must be some fact to what I'm saying? and it's not just us on pulse. That is a complete false. I know alot of people that don't particulalry like the indie /folk. Remeber I'm a music promoter and facebook and twitter all the time. Part of what I do is take polls. ..and you know me. I'll straight out ask questions like: "what do you think about the #1 song on alt this week? What are your thoughts on the Offspring completely missing out on The Alt top 10? "What about these X-Ambassadors taking alt by storm?"Many don't even know who X Ambassadors are. At least not in the Hispanic region. peeps say that Mexico is slow on progression. Well at least about this I'm glad they are. So as I first statrted out saying. It's all boils down to what part of the world or U.S. you live in. Why don't we all post the top hits that our Alt stations are playing. Not to prove anyone wrong, but to compare. I go first. xetra.tunegenie.com/tophits/The top 10 would be from "Tear In My Heart" to "Reapers" These are also the ones we request. *sigh* Dr. Indie, I'm tired of explaining to you again and again. When I said you're generalising, I mean that you're just looking at one station. What about the alt stations in the rest of America? I can't speak for the rest of the stations, since I don't listen to those. Only what influences me and my community. That's why I asked members to post their alt station's top hits to compare. I'm sure they don't all resemble KROQ either. I don't get KBZT, but I checked their website and the first thing I got was "Sedona" True Story. I won't be returning to that station anytime soon.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jul 8, 2015 23:34:32 GMT -5
Dr. Indie- maybe what 91X is doing is working, and other stations like it will start popping up across the country - but IMO it's really not the same format as most of the other Alt stations on the panel - the only reason it can get away with purposely playing songs that aren't commercial hits is bc there's another station in San Diego that is playing commercial Alt hits - There are tons of people in San Diego who like X Ambassadors, and apparently they all listen to KBZT, because it spins Renegades 84 times a week (which is pretty crazy lol) - but I guess 91X is getting the people who don't
I'm all for more stations like 91X, but IMO there's no way the more commercial Alternative stations are going to flip - maybe Triple A's should flip to a 91X-style format, or maybe they should start creating new 91X-style stations to compete with the AlternaPop ones
Also, I'm really confused about the "AAA-crossovers" taking over the Alt chart posts, because the only AAA crossovers on the Alt chart are Sedona, Don't Wanna Fight, and Hold Back The River, and 91X is playing Don't Wanna Fight - Renegades is trailing on AAA compared to Alternative, so it's def not a AAA crossover That's just in your face ridiculous. Reminds me of that "Hi Ho" song by the Lumineers. That was just as terrible. That's also why whenever our team does events I put 91x as much as I can before and after the main act and promote the hell out of it.
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Post by ben777 on Jul 8, 2015 23:49:37 GMT -5
Dr. Indie- maybe what 91X is doing is working, and other stations like it will start popping up across the country - but IMO it's really not the same format as most of the other Alt stations on the panel - the only reason it can get away with purposely playing songs that aren't commercial hits is bc there's another station in San Diego that is playing commercial Alt hits - There are tons of people in San Diego who like X Ambassadors, and apparently they all listen to KBZT, because it spins Renegades 84 times a week (which is pretty crazy lol) - but I guess 91X is getting the people who don't
I'm all for more stations like 91X, but IMO there's no way the more commercial Alternative stations are going to flip - maybe Triple A's should flip to a 91X-style format, or maybe they should start creating new 91X-style stations to compete with the AlternaPop ones
Also, I'm really confused about the "AAA-crossovers" taking over the Alt chart posts, because the only AAA crossovers on the Alt chart are Sedona, Don't Wanna Fight, and Hold Back The River, and 91X is playing Don't Wanna Fight - Renegades is trailing on AAA compared to Alternative, so it's def not a AAA crossover That's just in your face ridiculous. Reminds me of that "Hi Ho" song by the Lumineers. That was just as terrible. That's also why whenever our team does events I put 91x as much as I can before and after the main act and promote the hell out of it. I mean, if 91X works in San Diego, there's no reason stations like that can't work in other cities - it's not beating KBZT, but it's not that far behind - I seriously think AAA stations should try moving to slightly harder-edged stuff, because I think that's basically what 91X is - an independent station focusing on more non-commercial music for people that don't want to hear the same stuff repeated over and over again - and that's really what AAA stations are supposed to be doing (there's nothing in the definition of AAA that says the music has to be folky and acoustic IMO - just independent and non-commercial)
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Aug 4, 2015 1:28:49 GMT -5
The bad news is; 91x started playing this. Maybe one of the dee jays is from Arizona? The good news is ; "Out Of My League" from Fitz and the Tantrums still gets more spins a day.
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Post by Troy on Aug 4, 2015 10:26:35 GMT -5
The thing about San Diego is it already has a commercial AlternaPop station, KBZT, which is <b>spinning Renegades 84x a week</b>. 91X is more like a harder-edged AAA, in that they're biggest hits aren't tracks that are commercially successful - it's almost like a different format than the one reflected by the Alt chart thats once every TWO hours!!! I don't even want to hear my favorite songs that often
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Post by ben777 on Aug 5, 2015 20:52:31 GMT -5
The bad news is; 91x started playing this. Maybe one of the dee jays is from Arizona? The good news is ; "Out Of My League" from Fitz and the Tantrums still gets more spins a day. You're gonna hate me for posting this, but 91X has fallen in ratings the last two books, and is now trailing KBZT (the station that plays Renegades and Ex's And Oh's) pretty badly - I don't think this "non-commercial" experiment they're doing is gonna work - unless, maybe you could donate money to the station
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Post by Pipa on Aug 5, 2015 22:04:02 GMT -5
The bad news is; 91x started playing this. Maybe one of the dee jays is from Arizona? The good news is ; "Out Of My League" from Fitz and the Tantrums still gets more spins a day. You're gonna hate me for posting this, but 91X has fallen in ratings the last two books, and is now trailing KBZT (the station that plays Renegades and Ex's And Oh's) pretty badly - I don't think this "non-commercial" experiment they're doing is gonna work - unless, maybe you could donate money to the station Dr. Indie will self-fund 91X himself if he has to. It's like oxygen to him.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Aug 6, 2015 2:34:53 GMT -5
The bad news is; 91x started playing this. Maybe one of the dee jays is from Arizona? The good news is ; "Out Of My League" from Fitz and the Tantrums still gets more spins a day. You're gonna hate me for posting this, but 91X has fallen in ratings the last two books, and is now trailing KBZT (the station that plays Renegades and Ex's And Oh's) pretty badly - I don't think this "non-commercial" experiment they're doing is gonna work - unless, maybe you could donate money to the station They have added a lot of songs that are in the Alt charts, except those two you mentioned. It's almost as if they went Indie , so so they wouldn't have to play those two? Anyway , I don't think 91x have ever been about ratings, especially if they decided to go Indie. they must have some mad funds put aside for a rainy day? Anyway, Where else can I hear to RHCPs songs in a row or "Sex Type Thing" back to back, just because they feel like it. I'm sticking with them till the ship sinks.
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Post by Cody on Aug 11, 2015 12:27:00 GMT -5
Why isn't this dead yet? Sheesh.
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Post by Pipa on Aug 11, 2015 18:41:27 GMT -5
Why isn't this dead yet? Sheesh. It's destined to become the next big crossover, and AC #1 by 2019.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Aug 11, 2015 19:44:04 GMT -5
It's such a smash! I love it!
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Post by ben777 on Aug 11, 2015 21:34:19 GMT -5
My Alt station added this, and sped it up a lot, and it actually sounds a lot better at a faster tempo IMO
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Post by dm2081 on Aug 11, 2015 22:26:38 GMT -5
Finally checked this one out, and holy crap I like it. The vocals are the best part, its a perfect easy going summer kind of song. I hope this one can keep climbing honestly, it sounds fresh.
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Post by Superundercover on Aug 20, 2015 2:49:15 GMT -5
Also starting to really enjoy this one too. Should of checked it out sooner after it hit #1 on Triple A.
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