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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 20:56:55 GMT -5
As long as Red Bow can stay ahead of Warner Music Nashville/Cole Swindell (Chase had just a 36 Mediabase point lead this week), they'll get to the Mediabase top 10 this week. "Little Bit Of You" has gained 90 spins and nearly 800k in audience over the past two days and the song is 45 weeks old, so I'm assuming the peak week is nearing. Perhaps they will keep this one alive at 50 weeks but the sales have been pretty brutal and I'm just amazed at how well this one has done. I view last week and this week as an obvious 2-week final push. I'm actually thinking that Chase could peak at #8 on Mediabase. Like you said, he edged ahead of Cole by 36 points...and furthermore, he was only 90 points behind Brett and about 150 points behind FGL. All 4 of them are very close in total points, but if Red Bow can manage to finish just barely ahead of Cole, Brett, and FGL come Sunday, then they can claim a #8 peak for Chase (Sam will go recurrent on Sunday so that accounts for the missing +1, which allows for a possible 11-8 move for Chase on MB). On Billboard a top 10 peak will be much harder to come by. Sam Hunt will also go recurrent on BB, but I think Thomas Rhett would have to lose at least 900 spins to go recurrent (which is certainly possible, but it's definitely not a guarantee), and then Chase would still have to pass either Cole, Brett, or FGL. Brett was closest -- a little more than 1.6 million ahead of Chase on last night's chart -- but it looks like Chase has lost a little ground to him this week (in terms of audience, that is). FGL was over 2 million ahead, and Cole over 2.5 million ahead. So even though Cole leads the pack in audience, he's lagging just a bit in points, and Red Bow is clearly working the points system in their favor. I definitely think Chase can peak at #8 on Mediabase, but on Billboard I expect a #11 peak (or possibly #12 if Thomas Rhett doesn't go recurrent). I just can't see Chase re-passing Brett, Cole, or FGL on Billboard. I definitely don't think we'll be getting Chase's album anytime soon. The label may be able to claim two top 10's on Mediabase, but neither song connected strongly enough with listeners/fans, and I can't imagine that the album would sell much more than 10,000 copies (if that) during its release week. I'm betting Broken Bow's line of thinking is very similar to mine. I'm sure they've spent a ton of money working both "Take It On Back" and "Little Bit Of You" up the charts, and I can't imagine that such a low number of albums sold would allow the label to recuperate the cost of radio promotion for the two singles. In other words, I don't think they'll be making any money back on their investment here. And thus I don't expect them to release the album until they have a single that truly connects.
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 17, 2016 21:48:15 GMT -5
As long as Red Bow can stay ahead of Warner Music Nashville/Cole Swindell (Chase had just a 36 Mediabase point lead this week), they'll get to the Mediabase top 10 this week. "Little Bit Of You" has gained 90 spins and nearly 800k in audience over the past two days and the song is 45 weeks old, so I'm assuming the peak week is nearing. Perhaps they will keep this one alive at 50 weeks but the sales have been pretty brutal and I'm just amazed at how well this one has done. In other words, I don't think they'll be making any money back on their investment here. And thus I don't expect them to release the album until they have a single that truly connects. ...and I personally don't see Chase ever becoming a big seller, or even a decent seller. Broken Bow is caught between a rock and a hard place with Chase. If the song wasn't connecting after let's say 30 weeks of its chart run -- once it hit the MB/Billboard top 30...then it really doesn't make business sense to keep pushing it beyond that point either. If they're concerned about the album selling horribly (which I agree, would happen) then they should've recognized this one wasn't going to connect with the music buying public and cut their losses when they still had the chance. I'm no label executive but I could see this chart run and single sales trajectory a mile away. I understand the thinking of not recouping their lost radio promotion money back but that money is gone, so releasing the album now and coming back with a brand new song from new material would be what I would do. Though since I don't think Chase Bryant will ever be a big star, I guess that I wouldn't even bother continuing with him moving forward if his next single sputters.
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Post by bigfan101 on Feb 17, 2016 21:53:10 GMT -5
I think they have to go with Change Your Name. I think it could be a game changer for him.
And I could be totally off base, but I think he gives off a deuche persona and is kinda off-putting to me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 22:09:45 GMT -5
I think they have to go with Change Your Name. I think it could be a game changer for him. And I could be totally off base, but I think he gives off a deuche persona and is kinda off-putting to me. I think and I could be totally wrong here, but I can see that kind of turning people away from Chase Bryant's music. Just some food for thought and my ramblings again. Honestley I find Chase Bryant's music to be rather middle of the road, nothing ever too bad but nothing that makes me intrested.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 17, 2016 22:31:54 GMT -5
I see nothing negative about his persona at all. He seems like a nice guy to me and I've certainly not heard or witnessed anything to make me believe otherwise. Now, I do know that's a talking point with respect to the other Chase that we have in the country music world right now, however...
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 21, 2016 16:41:22 GMT -5
Top 10 on Mediabase this week as "Little Bit Of You" lands at #9.
The thread for this was started 349 days ago...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 16:44:53 GMT -5
Top 10 on Mediabase this week as "Little Bit Of You" lands at #9. The thread for this was started 349 days ago... Heh we are almost at a year with this thread . I seriously hope that this song is done, I liked it at first but man this song has just gone on way too long and if there's no album then what's the point of promoting this one.
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 21, 2016 16:47:03 GMT -5
Top 10 on Mediabase this week as "Little Bit Of You" lands at #9. The thread for this was started 349 days ago... Heh we are almost at a year with this thread . I guess that's for anyone who can't do math.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Feb 22, 2016 6:11:59 GMT -5
Probably still going? Gained 39 spins today and 689k audience today.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2016 4:02:35 GMT -5
Probably still going? Gained 39 spins today and 689k audience today. Wow, I didn't think this could be possible, but it is. Red Bow is apparently gunning for the top 5, as they ran this ad in Monday afternoon's Country Aircheck Today email: I've made the argument as to why they haven't released the album yet (radio promo for the 2 singles has probably cost them a fortune, and they'd lose more money by manufacturing and mass-producing an album that would be lucky to sell 10,000 copies in release week), and while I stand by that argument, I think not releasing an album will really be detrimental to Chase's chances of success with his 3rd single. I mean, if "Little Bit Of You" can't get the album out there, I just don't know what Red Bow could possibly say to radio programmers when they're ready to come back with single #3. "Hey, you guys have been very supportive in giving us two top 10 singles, but now we're asking for one more hit so we can finally release the album!" That's essentially the situation that we're looking at and it doesn't bode well for Chase and Red Bow.
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 23, 2016 7:13:59 GMT -5
I said before that Chase needs the album released now, at the top 10 point; now with a top 5 peak being what the label is pushing for, I got to think the album announcement is coming in the next week or two. It literally would be setting Bryant's career (at least with Red Bow) to fail like jhomes87 mentioned. The staff at Red Bow has gotten radio to spin Chase for almost two years (literally) now with no album and at some point, radio will not be so supportive. I know his sales have been poor but they've invested too much and have gone far enough down this path they chose to not give radio and fans the album. In my own view, this song becoming a top 5 single is laughable.
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Post by dm2081 on Feb 23, 2016 19:51:29 GMT -5
This song is going to have some serious losses next week. I think we could see this one lose around 3 million a day. Radio has to be ready to just kick this one away.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 23, 2016 19:59:12 GMT -5
This is why I think it's way past due to release an album. Whether it'll sell poorly or not, to keep pushing it off and pushing it off is an even worse decision. Plenty of artists get their albums out with songs that do on par or worse with what Chase Bryant's have done, so I definitely think it's time to make it available for those that do want it and for there to be an actual body of work to represent and show for all the work that's gone into the project. Even if they technically lose money on putting out an album, it can't be significantly more than continuing to release singles and aggressively push them up the charts only to have nothing to show for it in the form of an album. I do hope that sabre14 is right about an album announcement coming soon.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2016 20:20:34 GMT -5
I don't even care if they release an album, I just can't believe this song will more than likely be a Top 5 song. This song doesn't deserve it whatsoever and I can only hope radio tells Red Bow they're done with this song and tell them to release the album.
I personally, don't care if Chase Bryant releases his album cause in my opinion "Little Bit Of You" is hardly country if at all (decent pop-rock but fails miserably as a country song). Add in radio overplaying this song for a good couple of months and I really have lost interest in what happens to Chase Bryant.
I can realistically see "Little Bit Of You" lasting 2 maybe 3 more weeks as it's obvious they're going for a MB Top 5 finish. This week Chase landed at #9 for MB and right now is at #10, the highest Chase Bryant can get this week is #7 if he passes both Brett Eldredge and Cole Swindell and Luke Bryan falls below. The following week Chase Bryant can get the top 5 because by them Kelsea and Granger would fall below so hopefully this song only lasts a few more weeks, because this song should've been long gone by now between terrible sales and the only reason radio is accepting is the fact that Red Bow is known for super long chart runs. This song being a top 5 is very laughable at best and straight up depressing as worst.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 23, 2016 23:03:36 GMT -5
I personally, don't care if Chase Bryant releases his album cause in my opinion "Little Bit Of You" is hardly country if at all (decent pop-rock but fails miserably as a country song) Couldn't disagree with this more and I think this labeling has everything to do with your anger and distaste for it getting radio play beyond where it's selling with the general public. But it is absolutely a country song and in fact it almost sounds a bit dated in that it has a kind of early 2000s feel to it. Pop rock it sure as hell ain't. I don't think it deserves to make the Top 5 either (even though I absolutely love it and think it is a great song that should be selling better), but let's not get carried away.
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Post by bksouthga on Feb 23, 2016 23:54:31 GMT -5
Probably still going? Gained 39 spins today and 689k audience today. Wow, I didn't think this could be possible, but it is. Red Bow is apparently gunning for the top 5, as they ran this ad in Monday afternoon's Country Aircheck Today email: I've made the argument as to why they haven't released the album yet (radio promo for the 2 singles has probably cost them a fortune, and they'd lose more money by manufacturing and mass-producing an album that would be lucky to sell 10,000 copies in release week), and while I stand by that argument, I think not releasing an album will really be detrimental to Chase's chances of success with his 3rd single. I mean, if "Little Bit Of You" can't get the album out there, I just don't know what Red Bow could possibly say to radio programmers when they're ready to come back with single #3. "Hey, you guys have been very supportive in giving us two top 10 singles, but now we're asking for one more hit so we can finally release the album!" That's essentially the situation that we're looking at and it doesn't bode well for Chase and Red Bow. Question for you "radio industry" kind of people. Are all of these ads in the trade magazines this cheesy? I've seen some others in this forum, so I am inclined to think they are.
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 23, 2016 23:59:03 GMT -5
Wow, I didn't think this could be possible, but it is. Red Bow is apparently gunning for the top 5, as they ran this ad in Monday afternoon's Country Aircheck Today email: I've made the argument as to why they haven't released the album yet (radio promo for the 2 singles has probably cost them a fortune, and they'd lose more money by manufacturing and mass-producing an album that would be lucky to sell 10,000 copies in release week), and while I stand by that argument, I think not releasing an album will really be detrimental to Chase's chances of success with his 3rd single. I mean, if "Little Bit Of You" can't get the album out there, I just don't know what Red Bow could possibly say to radio programmers when they're ready to come back with single #3. "Hey, you guys have been very supportive in giving us two top 10 singles, but now we're asking for one more hit so we can finally release the album!" That's essentially the situation that we're looking at and it doesn't bode well for Chase and Red Bow. Question for you "radio industry" kind of people. Are all of these ads in the trade magazines this cheesy? I've seen some others in this forum, so I am inclined to think they are. Yes. That one's fine, imo. There's been far worse over the years.
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Post by bboat11 on Feb 24, 2016 1:37:56 GMT -5
Question for you "radio industry" kind of people. Are all of these ads in the trade magazines this cheesy? I've seen some others in this forum, so I am inclined to think they are. Yes. That one's fine, imo. There's been far worse over the years. For example, wasn't it just like a month ago when Jana Kramer's label asked radio to help her deliver a "bouncing baby #1"? ;)
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Post by bksouthga on Feb 24, 2016 7:53:42 GMT -5
Yes. That one's fine, imo. There's been far worse over the years. For example, wasn't it just like a month ago when Jana Kramer's label asked radio to help her deliver a "bouncing baby #1"? ;) What was the one that came up in one of these threads that promised "Fun. Tempo"? If you have to tell me something is fun, it probably isn't!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2016 8:10:37 GMT -5
I personally, don't care if Chase Bryant releases his album cause in my opinion "Little Bit Of You" is hardly country if at all (decent pop-rock but fails miserably as a country song) Couldn't disagree with this more and I think this labeling has everything to do with your anger and distaste for it getting radio play beyond where it's selling with the general public. But it is absolutely a country song and in fact it almost sounds a bit dated in that it has a kind of early 2000s feel to it. Pop rock it sure as hell ain't. I don't think it deserves to make the Top 5 either (even though I absolutely love it and think it is a great song that should be selling better), but let's not get carried away. The labeling really doesn't as I've kind of given up on caring what's labeled country anymore as mainstream country music seems to accept every genre of sounds. No what gets me mad is these lengthy chart runs for songs that should have given up a long time ago. It's why I like EMI Nashville for giving up on Eric Church "Mr. Misunderstood" because Eric doesn't need country radio yet country radio desperately needs Eric Church as he's one of the top stars in country music. I just don't hear what's country about this, it sounds like A decent Adult Top 40 pop-rock song, that when I grade as a country song it sorely lacks as a country song like can you explain better than just a 2000s feel for why it's a country song. But hey that's just my opinion.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 24, 2016 9:23:59 GMT -5
For example, wasn't it just like a month ago when Jana Kramer's label asked radio to help her deliver a "bouncing baby #1"? ;) What was the one that came up in one of these threads that promised "Fun. Tempo"? If you have to tell me something is fun, it probably isn't! I believe that was when Tyler Farr's label panicked and pulled "Withdrawals" after a couple months and put out "Better in Boots."
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Post by josephmorgan on Mar 7, 2016 20:14:24 GMT -5
This song broke a record this week as it now holds the longest amount of weeks to get to the top 10 at 47 weeks. It beats the previous mark set by "Love Like Crazy" and "Gonna Wanna Tonight" by one week. It also becomes the biggest hit of his career so far at #8. "Take It On Back" peaked at #9.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 10, 2016 8:57:30 GMT -5
I don't think this one can/will hang on long enough for a top 5 finish. "Little Bit Of You" lost 27 spins and 300k in audience today and only gained 40 net spins and lost over 200k in net audience since Monday.
"Break On Me" fell below "Little Bit Of You" today, so that would move Chase up to #7 on Mediabase this Sunday, but Florida Georgia Line has pulled away from Chase over the past two days and Randy's song falling below next week would only get Chase to #6, if they stay behind FGL. The only way this could go top 5 is if Red Bow puts in one final massive push next Monday. Red Bow could decide to throw in the towel now the way this week has gone for "Little Bit Of You." Radio doesn't want to continue playing Chase's this song and I predict a pretty epic fall once they let go of promotion and of course...still no album on the horizon, with both of the first two top 10 singles selling poorly. Not good.
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Post by someguy on Mar 13, 2016 3:45:02 GMT -5
I have no idea why an album hasn't been announced. Back to back top 10s is about the max that I expect from Chase Bryant.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 10:43:53 GMT -5
Today's update was very harsh, a loss of over 50 spins and 200k in audience today. To add insult to injury for this song, my predictions will have Chase Bryant come in at #8 with no new peak position. If they aren't even going to release an album then what's the point of keeping this song going. I have a lot of doubt that Chase Bryant can get another Top 10, especially with no album on the horizon and "Little Bit Of You" being on life support at this point.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 13, 2016 10:58:37 GMT -5
Red Bow actually put up a "Power Up" ad in Aircheck's email for "Little Bit Of You" on Friday, lol. Chase lost 10 spins and 700k in audience this week on Mediabase so it'll go without a bullet this week. There's no doubt radio desperately wants to let this one go. The question is whether Red Bow finally lets this one go this week or keeps it going.
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Post by rsmatto on Mar 13, 2016 11:13:36 GMT -5
Red Bow actually put up a "Power Up" ad in Aircheck's email for "Little Bit Of You" on Friday, lol. Chase lost 10 spins and 700k in audience this week on Mediabase so it'll go without a bullet this week. There's no doubt radio desperately wants to let this one go. The question is whether Red Bow finally lets this one go this week or keeps it going. What's funny is I pulled up a March 2015 playlist of singles on my iPod while driving around and this and a few other hits were on it! I was like, MAN! That's still "Current" lol.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Mar 13, 2016 17:29:27 GMT -5
It's uncanny how much this dude sounds like Mike Eli. I just completed a survey for new music from the Eli Young Band (don't worry, none of it sounded even close to "Turn It On") and I was absolutely certain that it was new material from Chase Bryant until the very end when the names were revealed.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 13, 2016 19:16:26 GMT -5
I have no idea why an album hasn't been announced. Back to back top 10s is about the max that I expect from Chase Bryant. This. It completely defeats this argument of not releasing the album because they won't make their money back on it if they're going to continue to burn through a lot of finances in order to push a single that isn't connecting particularly well this high. They really should be putting his album out right around now. There's just no justification I can see behind sitting on his debut effort any longer after two Top 10s. Even if it doesn't sell that well (I'm sure it wouldn't), it just doesn't seem like this is a good business strategy at all to me how they're handling this.
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Post by rsmatto on Mar 13, 2016 22:24:31 GMT -5
I have no idea why an album hasn't been announced. Back to back top 10s is about the max that I expect from Chase Bryant. This. It completely defeats this argument of not releasing the album because they won't make their money back on it if they're going to continue to burn through a lot of finances in order to push a single that isn't connecting particularly well this high. They really should be putting his album out right around now. There's just no justification I can see behind sitting on his debut effort any longer after two Top 10s. Even if it doesn't sell that well (I'm sure it wouldn't), it just doesn't seem like this is a good business strategy at all to me how they're handling this. , It's possible the label is experimenting with Chase Bryant and not releasing an album at all. It may not make sense to us but who knows.
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