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Post by Relaxing Cup on Mar 17, 2015 16:20:52 GMT -5
Whatever....I just want Janet.
fasten your seat belts darling it's gonna be a bumpy ride! #HoldTight
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Mar 17, 2015 16:26:43 GMT -5
Oh please, you guys have been having a meltdown since Christmas. #StayPressed I genuinely don't think that word means what you think it does. You're mad, angry, and lashing out. You're pressed like a fresh pair of starched and ironed slacks. Mariah and other artists had nothing to do with the discussion and you tried to take another person's low point to better the sh!t you guys have been trying to turn into platinum for the past 3 months.
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Post by Caviar on Mar 17, 2015 16:36:20 GMT -5
All this over a #2 album?
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Post by Verisimilitude on Mar 17, 2015 16:42:18 GMT -5
Whatever....I just want Janet. fasten your seat belts darling it's gonna be a bumpy ride! #HoldTight Being married to a billionaire seems to keep her happy instead of recording music these days. >:(
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Post by seaguy27 on Mar 17, 2015 16:49:17 GMT -5
This stan has no meltdown or tears….30 plus years and she still opens with the highest sales and #2 overall and over 100k….with all these artist that are younger and not as far in their career with more radio support not even reaching 100k.
Matter of fact when you count the decline in sales for cd's the opening for this cd is actually better than Bedtime Stories. Sorry for all of you other stan's that are insecure and think gloating somehow makes your faves disappointments less sad but I'm good. :)
Charts are for artist that can't tour or still have things to prove….for icons and legends its about delivering music their fans like.
On a side note I do not like the streaming aspect for albums….Kelly takes a harder fall and Miss Minaj gets her sales inflated an absurd amount from 10k to 30k??
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Post by ss8 on Mar 17, 2015 17:03:33 GMT -5
So like I said earlier it looks like she'll tie the Beatles and the Stones with 6 #2 albums. Nice. And I haven't seen any meltdowns, just perplexing gloating from the stans of a woman who Madonna has over 7 years on, yet whose last album debuted a spot lower and sold a bit less than half as much its first week. #StayMad Oh please, you guys have been having a meltdown since Christmas. #StayPressed A) WHY are u even in here/a Madonna thread (not 'basically' but *totally trolling) even w/ the wannabe (bad) subtle act. B) Of course you would know all too well about 'meltdowns'. ;) C) I'm done w/ responding to you (and hopefully everyone else in here does to) and you save up all your energies/ hot air while wiggling back to your idols thread to pray for her Vegas stint.
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Post by HailTheConquerer on Mar 17, 2015 17:08:38 GMT -5
LOL..what the hell is everyone talking about?..Madonna had the #1 selling album in the country, dont f**king matter what Billboard or Hits says...because some higher ups decided that streaming 10 songs includes an album sale???...just to keep up too date..lol, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA INCLUDE NEXT?...SINGING IN THE SHOWER COUNTS AS A SALE ???...Madonna fans are stronger then any fan base out there...BILLBOARD WILL CATCH A LOT OF s**t FOR THIS!!!..AND THEY DESERVED TOO...what is this , the world of make believe album sales, MADONNA SLAYED THE f**king EMPIRE IN PURE SALES!!!, just as its been since 1955....they can put Madonna at #10 tommorrow for all I care....doesnt change the fact...REBEL HARD IS THE #1 SELLING ALBUM IN THE U.S!!!
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Post by Libra on Mar 17, 2015 17:15:20 GMT -5
There's been enough fighting in this thread already. Please, stop. :)
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Post by HailTheConquerer on Mar 17, 2015 17:19:07 GMT -5
I agree.
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Post by badrobot on Mar 17, 2015 17:47:17 GMT -5
This means every Madonna studio album in the SS era has opened above 100k right? I think that's 9?
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Post by imbondz on Mar 17, 2015 18:20:54 GMT -5
You can buy the same album every day for the rest of your life as long as it's available. You can buy 1000 copies of the same album in a day and all will count towards the chart. Nobody does that because there's literally no point ever. That's a horrible argument. You're listening to a song not buying it. It's airplay not sales and shouldn't be counted towards a sales chart. I think the approach being taken now with determining popularity is with time spent rather than money. The Billboard 200 is no longer a sales chart just like the Hot 100 stopped being sales years ago. There are valid arguments for and against streaming being counted for the main albums chart but if counting popularity, streaming is a major method in how it's being measured. There's no way around that. It wasn't an argument I was replying to his point that you can only buy an album once. I could handle streaming better if you streamed the entire album, not listened to 1-2 songs and that counts towards BB200.
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Post by imbondz on Mar 17, 2015 18:24:59 GMT -5
I think the issue with Billboard is trying to equate streaming to a sale. There is no need to do that so directly. In terms of the Hot 100 Billboard doesn't talk about airplay or streams as they relate to sales, so why do it with albums? Maybe treating them as the separate entities they are would help. To get back to the popularity thing; my issues with a chart being based on sales only is that chart is more so about "new" popularity only. For instance, if I buy an album the day it's released, in terms of a sales-only chart that is my only contribution to its popularity. So, if I love it and listen to it all the time, that is meaningless. If I hate it and never listen to it again, that is also meaningless. So, sales only represent people who want to buy an album in that moment/week. Streaming helps us see what people genuinely like and what they continue to listen to. It's close. But how do you associate listening over and over to a song an albums popularity? Or even 2-3 songs? An album is an album, not 1-3 songs on it.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Mar 17, 2015 18:36:21 GMT -5
This means every Madonna studio album in the SS era has opened above 100k right? I think that's 9? 8 without Rebel Heart: MDNA Madonna #1 358,653 4/14/12 Hard Candy Madonna 279,522 #1 5/17/08 Confessions On A Dance Floor Madonna 349,556 #1 12/03/05 American Life Madonna 240,821 #1 05/10/03 Music Madonna 419,601 #1 10/07/00 Ray Of Light Madonna 370,683 #2 03/21/98 Bedtime Stories Madonna 145,000 #3 11/12/94 Erotica Madonna 167,000 #2 11/7/92
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Post by badrobot on Mar 17, 2015 18:47:30 GMT -5
This means every Madonna studio album in the SS era has opened above 100k right? I think that's 9? 8: MDNA Madonna #1 358,653 4/14/12 Hard Candy Madonna 279,522 #1 5/17/08 Confessions On A Dance Floor Madonna 349,556 #1 12/03/05 American Life Madonna 240,821 #1 05/10/03 Music Madonna 419,601 #1 10/07/00 Ray Of Light Madonna 370,683 #2 03/21/98 Bedtime Stories Madonna 145,000 #3 11/12/94 Erotica Madonna 167,000 #2 11/7/92 ...and Rebel Heart will be 9 barring a fairly large HDD/SS discrepancy.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Mar 17, 2015 18:53:12 GMT -5
Where were y'all when HITS was snubbed?
Don't act brandnew. You only care because it's your fave. If Empire had sold more, but Madonna won w/ SEA/TEA, would you guys still be going for bat? I don't think so.
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Post by floridagrl on Mar 17, 2015 19:08:49 GMT -5
EPIC MADness You're quoting me, bigmac? Awesome sauce!! :)
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Post by seaguy27 on Mar 17, 2015 20:34:33 GMT -5
The thing that is difficult is streaming will count as a sell over and over and over …however when you purchase a cd no matter how many times you listen it will never amount to another sale.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Mar 17, 2015 21:02:35 GMT -5
Now sit down, get your popcorn, and enjoy this drama of Madonna not reaching #1 on SPS.
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Post by HailTheConquerer on Mar 17, 2015 21:02:51 GMT -5
I looked up the website Noise11, and the saying the same think about Terrance Howard being in her video...they just reported it...must be true, either way, I've come too the conclusion that this album is my most favorite since ROL...reason is Ghosttown, I've always fell fell in love with ballads, Take a Bow ,I'll remembeu, TYTBMP....and my top 5 favorite... Promise Too Try...in fact...I don't know if anybody here a remix of "Promise Too Try/Dont Forget Me".....I get choked up every time listen too it.
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Post by HailTheConquerer on Mar 17, 2015 21:11:03 GMT -5
Where were y'all when HITS was snubbed? Don't act brandnew. You only care because it's your fave. If Empire had sold more, but Madonna won w/ SEA/TEA, would you guys still be going for bat? I don't think so. Wow, pulse allows that avatar? ,,Good Lord!.., Imma gonna give you a pass ..take 2 asprin and plenty of rest!
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Post by ss8 on Mar 17, 2015 21:26:54 GMT -5
Where were y'all when HITS was snubbed? Don't act brandnew. You only care because it's your fave. If Empire had sold more, but Madonna won w/ SEA/TEA, would you guys still be going for bat? I don't think so. In second grade or second grade education? Just saying/concerned based on your typing and grammar. Very valid inquiry.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2015 21:32:51 GMT -5
I would like to remind the Madonna fans that Pulse is not a fan site and they should refrain from attacking people.
I personally have nothing to add had no idea there was music being released from her this week.Up until I read this thread I assumed she was the preacher of social justice. Also second place isn't that big of a fall.
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Post by Keelzit on Mar 17, 2015 21:33:41 GMT -5
It sucks that she'll probably miss the #1 on the BB200 but does it really matter when she's #1 on album sales? A 3-month old chart change cannot possibly change the way chart followers feel toward certain charts.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Mar 17, 2015 21:35:32 GMT -5
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Post by allow that on Mar 17, 2015 21:35:35 GMT -5
MADONNA SLAYED THE f**king EMPIRE IN PURE SALES!!!, just as its been since 1955 omfg lmao
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2015 21:48:19 GMT -5
Daahling it's going to be alright in times of despair enjoy the artistry and the vocals no need to attack. I know pulse has lots of teens but I damn well know Madonna's super stans are pushing well into their upper middle age
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Mar 17, 2015 21:58:38 GMT -5
Daahling it's going to be alright in times of despair enjoy the artistry and the vocals no need to attack. I know pulse has lots of teens but I damn well know Madonna's super stans are pushing well into their upper middle age
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Post by HoldTight on Mar 18, 2015 0:27:34 GMT -5
^^^Why is this shit allowed?
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Post by Chelsea Press 2 on Mar 18, 2015 0:35:56 GMT -5
The ones calling us old now will be that age one day too and will have to deal with all that comes along with that. Grey hair, mysterious aches and pains, feeling tired for no reason, and forgetfulness. Not to mention all the wrinkles, sunspots, osteoporosis and hot flashes. In some cases, all of them happening at the same time.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Mar 18, 2015 0:37:26 GMT -5
Where were y'all when HITS was snubbed? Don't act brandnew. You only care because it's your fave. If Empire had sold more, but Madonna won w/ SEA/TEA, would you guys still be going for bat? I don't think so. In second grade or second grade education? Just saying/concerned based on your typing and grammar. Very valid inquiry. Quite the opposite, but I don't need to defend myself or my caliber of education to an irrelevant anonymous on the internet. However, I will apologize for a few typos in the post. I'd just woken from a nap, so it is not my most clear post. However, the message was clear (and very valid) enough to resonate with the many who liked my post. A message that you so clearly and conveniently avoided addressing. hmm...
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