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Post by somebody60 on Aug 4, 2007 1:32:11 GMT -5
And I agree with somebody60 that giving an award whose recipient is known ahead of time is not exactly a way to build suspense. (But I don't agree with somebody60's philosophy teacher, who, if he or she is quoted accurately here, doesn't make distinctions too well. People can get pats on the back in various ways, and some exceptional pats can take the form of awards. It doesn't diminish person A if person B gets an award. They don't make philosophy teachers the way they used to -- but I hope they all get awarded something. Wouldn't want their feelings hurt.) I don't think I have done such a good job quoting him reading your response. And, for that, I apologize to you and to my teacher. But, I'm not going to go any farther into this, mainly because this thread is about Tim McGraw's "If Your Reading This", and I feel like my posts have caused others to stray even farther from this topic (again, mostly my fault).
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Post by WamuFive on Aug 4, 2007 12:41:20 GMT -5
Your posting of the qualifications for both awards was revealed in the first sentence. 'Song Of The Year' goes to the composer, while 'Single Of The Year' goes to the performer and producer. That's why there are two separate awards. Interesting to note: the ACM gives the Song of the Year award to songwriters AND artists, while the CMA gives the award to the songwriters only.
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Post by WamuFive on Aug 4, 2007 12:43:13 GMT -5
But, I'm not going to go any farther into this, mainly because this thread is about Tim McGraw's "If Your Reading This", and I feel like my posts have caused others to stray even farther from this topic (again, mostly my fault). Well, with any luck Song of the Year will have everything to do with "If You're Reading This" come November. ;)
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Post by Marv on Aug 4, 2007 18:37:11 GMT -5
I also have to agree that 'Give It Away' was among the weaker 'Song Of The Year' winners in revent memory, especially when compared to such extraordinary songs as 'Three Wooden Crosses', 'I May Hate Myself In The Morning', 'Live Like You Were Dying' and 'Believe'.
Of course, 'had 'Cowboys Like Us', 'I Can Still Make Cheyenne', or 'Nobody In His Right Mind Would Have Left Her' walked of with the two awards which 'Give It Away' received then I wouldn't be bashing King George now, would I?
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Post by WamuFive on Aug 4, 2007 20:43:14 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, there were PLENTY worse choices than "Give It Away" for Song of the Year too. I'm not complaining. I love George and I did like the song plenty so I'll take it over other pop-country artist offerings.
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Post by EmersonDrive13Rocks on Aug 4, 2007 21:47:47 GMT -5
But, I'm not going to go any farther into this, mainly because this thread is about Tim McGraw's "If Your Reading This", and I feel like my posts have caused others to stray even farther from this topic (again, mostly my fault). Well, with any luck Song of the Year will have everything to do with "If You're Reading This" come November. ;) No. With any justice "Moments" will win Song of the Year at the CMA's!!! This song can come in second.
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Post by ericNY2002 on Aug 7, 2007 7:42:01 GMT -5
I was on itunes this morning, as If You're Reading This is now on there for purchase.
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Post by PinkyD on Aug 7, 2007 12:50:28 GMT -5
Yes I just purchased it...looks they are relaunching the CD...it has prominent placement on the new releases board...
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Post by Dustin J. on Aug 7, 2007 14:14:26 GMT -5
I was on itunes this morning, as If You're Reading This is now on there for purchase. Same thing with Napster...
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Post by WamuFive on Aug 7, 2007 20:20:42 GMT -5
I was on itunes this morning, as If You're Reading This is now on there for purchase. Yay!! We can officially be happy that no greedy tactics were used in the re-release of "Let It Go". I do wonder how this will affect album sales (with IYRT now on the album).
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Post by PinkyD on Aug 7, 2007 21:11:36 GMT -5
Well, I don't think all stores have gotten new copies yet...I was at Virgin today and they only had the original release...
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Post by rowdawg21 on Aug 7, 2007 21:42:13 GMT -5
It's already up to #17 on the iTunes country chart.
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Post by Zazie on Aug 8, 2007 8:04:41 GMT -5
Looks like they're going to let go of the duet and push this one hard -- I expect it will peak higher than I Need You. There will be a lot of competition for the top 3 when this one gets into range, but I'm not assuming this one will fall short.
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Post by WamuFive on Aug 8, 2007 9:29:51 GMT -5
Looks like they're going to let go of the duet and push this one hard -- I expect it will peak higher than I Need You. There will be a lot of competition for the top 3 when this one gets into range, but I'm not assuming this one will fall short. Might as well. "I Need You" has already hit the top 10, it's done its job. They're going through the trouble of re-releasing "Let It Go" so they should try to make it worth their while. I would say the competition is much too tough for INY anyways, with RF passing it by and Carrie ready to launch into the top 10-- not to mention some of the other songs in the top 10. It would be hard enough by itself-- let alone with spins spread to two different songs in the top 15. It will be nice to see what IYRT can do now that it's the lone ranger. I'm pretty sure RF will have already peaked and probably Carrie, too. I think its biggest competition will be Paisley's "Online", Keith's "Love Me If You Can", and possibly a 3rd darkhorse candidate.
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Post by Zazie on Aug 8, 2007 10:31:13 GMT -5
I'm not so sure Carrie's going to keep the blistering pace going. I agree that Paisley is strong, and the other songs I think are contenders (B&D, TK, Sugarland) won't be easy to dislodge from their top 5 positions once they get there. RF should be out of the way by the time Tim's ready.
I keep a points-based year-to-date chart going, one I used to use to predict Bob Kingsley's year-end chart when he used the Billboard data. Now I do it just for fun. I wanted I Need You to make the top 50 but if it doesn't last a few more weeks, it won't do it. I like the song a lot....
(I'm probably wrong about Carrie, though.)
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Post by Diablo Cody™ on Aug 8, 2007 17:09:36 GMT -5
OMG I heard this on the radio and I love it!
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Post by WamuFive on Aug 8, 2007 17:53:14 GMT -5
I'm not so sure Carrie's going to keep the blistering pace going. (I'm probably wrong about Carrie, though.) Well, obviously Carrie won't continue her 1200 spins/week pace, but she'll probably hit the top 10 in 2 or 3 weeks tops-- and then it's anybody's guess as to if and when the song will hit #1. Since this spring I had assumed her lead single, whenever released, would be an automatic #1. It will probably, but it's not as strong as I thought. In other words, I don't see this song hogging 6 weeks at the top and blocking several other songs from reaching #1. I think it will make a quick run up and down the charts. That's why I figured the race would more likely be with Toby and Brad for #1. These will be the songs to duke it out in the aftermath of UnderFlatts. Additionally, I just don't see the B&D and Sugarland tunes as being strong enough to contend for a top 2 spot. I see #3 finishes in their future. (I'm probably wrong about Carrie, though.)
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Post by rowdawg21 on Aug 8, 2007 21:10:47 GMT -5
It's now up to #3 on the iTunes country chart, only behind "Teardrops On My Guitar" and "Before He Cheats." I think it could get to #1 before the week is over.
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Post by rowdawg21 on Aug 9, 2007 11:52:18 GMT -5
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Post by drock89 on Aug 9, 2007 18:37:11 GMT -5
I'm guilty of buying it
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Post by WamuFive on Aug 9, 2007 18:55:11 GMT -5
On a side note, interesting that "I Need You" is both #6 and #19 on the country i-tunes chart. It's bad enough that the song had to compete with "If You're Reading This" on the airplay chart, now it has to compete with itself on the downloads chart!!! This song just can't catch a break. ;)
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Post by drock89 on Aug 9, 2007 18:56:43 GMT -5
^ How is that? The original "Let It Go" and the reissue??
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Post by S4C on Aug 9, 2007 20:06:44 GMT -5
Yup. Number 6 is on the original album and 19 is the re-release (presumably most people who bought that one bought the whole album with IYRT). That annoys me so much when they don't combine them. >:(
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Post by WamuFive on Aug 9, 2007 20:10:45 GMT -5
^ How is that? The original "Let It Go" and the reissue?? Actually, that's exactly correct. I just checked on i-tunes and they have both the original and the re-issue for sale. The original album has the artist titled "Tim McGraw with Faith Hill" and is #6 on the i-tunes chart. The re-issue has the artist titled "Tim McGraw & Faith Hill" and is #19 on the i-tunes chart. I think the difference in the artist listing is of little consequence, though. I'm sure because it's still a different album they would be listed twice. The difference in the artist listing just gave us the clue as to why it would be listed twice on the top downloads chart.
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Post by leilamaurizia on Aug 9, 2007 20:20:30 GMT -5
It doesn't matter when it's counted. Sales for the album will be counted altogether. Sales for the song will be counted altogether. So, no competition really.
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Post by WamuFive on Aug 9, 2007 20:23:57 GMT -5
It doesn't matter when it's counted. Sales for the album will be counted altogether. Sales for the song will be counted altogether. So, no competition really. But there's essentially two different albums this song appears on-- the original and the re-issue. So the original is competing against the re-issue. When people download the single, they can choose which album to download from. I would imagine that the singles from one album would be tallied seperate from the singles of the other album. Otherwise, why would the song be listed twice on the download chart?
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Post by leilamaurizia on Aug 9, 2007 20:35:09 GMT -5
Just for iTunes categorization purposes-- 'coz they're from 'different' albums. For SoundScan, it won't matter. I'll reference Carrie since I'm more informed about her iTunes listings. Look at her iTunes page and the available songs. There are numerous "Inside Your Heaven" and "Jesus, Take the Wheel" listings, but they're all combined in her SoundScan/Billboard Hot Digital Songs count. There are exceptions, of course, but none that are relevant to "I Need You."
ETA: Um, after having checked her listings again, Carrie might not be a good example. Anyway, what I just meant to say was that if it's the same version, all the eggs will go to the same basket.
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Post by WamuFive on Aug 9, 2007 20:46:39 GMT -5
Just for iTunes categorization purposes-- 'coz they're from 'different' albums. For SoundScan, it won't matter. I'll reference Carrie since I'm more informed about her iTunes listings. Look at her iTunes page and the available songs. There are numerous "Inside Your Heaven" and "Jesus, Take the Wheel" listings, but they're all combined in her SoundScan/Billboard Hot Digital Songs count. There are exceptions, of course, but none that are relevant to "I Need You." I was merely referring to the chart that rowdawg had posted. I'm glad to see that Billboard/Soundscan levels the playing field so to speak.
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Post by S4C on Aug 16, 2007 11:16:52 GMT -5
With the digital release, this got a pretty good debut on this week's Hot 100 at number 45.
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Post by jessie on Aug 26, 2007 11:58:23 GMT -5
With INY going recurrent hopefully now this song will get what it deserves #1. If a song ever deserved #1 this one does. This song says it all and hopefully is future Song of The Year at the CMA's.
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