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Post by phil1996 on Nov 2, 2015 17:02:28 GMT -5
I hope somehow this can at least get a top 15 peak. Favorite song on radio at the moment.
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Post by robenglund on Nov 8, 2015 12:19:16 GMT -5
I hope this one isn't done. I think this is the best song he has ever released to radio. When I first heard this I was like "wow this is a hit". Damn country radio.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 8, 2015 12:47:22 GMT -5
I hope this one isn't done. I think this is the best song he has ever released to radio. When I first heard this I was like "wow this is a hit". Damn country radio. Considering how no one is buying it and he (again) has like no momentum at radio, this is actually doing better than it probably should be on radio, honestly. This sounded like a hit to me, too, but apparently it isn't connecting at all. Billy Currington's current single not connecting in similar fashion is another head-scratcher.
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Post by robenglund on Nov 8, 2015 12:56:01 GMT -5
I hope this one isn't done. I think this is the best song he has ever released to radio. When I first heard this I was like "wow this is a hit". Damn country radio. Considering how no one is buying it and he (again) has like no momentum at radio, this is actually doing better than it probably should be on radio, honestly. This sounded like a hit to me, too, but apparently it isn't connecting at all. Billy Currington's current single not connecting in similar fashion is another head-scratcher. I can potentially see why Jerrod's isn't connecting. I know some of the music festivals he mentions such as Bonaroo and Lalapalooza are in the summer so maybe he should have released it earlier as in maybe right at the beginning of spring so it had the summer to takeoff. But I can see why they waited a while since Buzz Back Girl flopped. The real head scratcher here is Billy's. This song is an anthem. It's fall. It's football season. He released it early in the summer so it had the fall to take off. I still have hope for it though. It's one of my current favorites so I really hope it does well. Thankfully, my favorite country radio station is in a college town so they love this song and I hear it quite often.
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Post by matty005 on Nov 8, 2015 13:02:48 GMT -5
Considering how no one is buying it and he (again) has like no momentum at radio, this is actually doing better than it probably should be on radio, honestly. This sounded like a hit to me, too, but apparently it isn't connecting at all. Billy Currington's current single not connecting in similar fashion is another head-scratcher. I can potentially see why Jerrod's isn't connecting. I know some of the music festivals he mentions such as Bonaroo and Lalapalooza are in the summer so maybe he should have released it earlier as in maybe right at the beginning of spring so it had the summer to takeoff. But I can see why they waited a while since Buzz Back Girl flopped. The real head scratcher here is Billy's. This song is an anthem. It's fall. It's football season. He released it early in the summer so it had the fall to take off. I still have hope for it though. It's one of my current favorites so I really hope it does well. Thankfully, my favorite country radio station is in a college town so they love this song and I hear it quite often. I love this song, but I think another possible reason is that the average country listener might not have heard of many (if any) of these festivals.
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Post by dm2081 on Nov 8, 2015 19:49:22 GMT -5
I can potentially see why Jerrod's isn't connecting. I know some of the music festivals he mentions such as Bonaroo and Lalapalooza are in the summer so maybe he should have released it earlier as in maybe right at the beginning of spring so it had the summer to takeoff. But I can see why they waited a while since Buzz Back Girl flopped. The real head scratcher here is Billy's. This song is an anthem. It's fall. It's football season. He released it early in the summer so it had the fall to take off. I still have hope for it though. It's one of my current favorites so I really hope it does well. Thankfully, my favorite country radio station is in a college town so they love this song and I hear it quite often. I love this song, but I think another possible reason is that the average country listener might not have heard of many (if any) of these festivals. That was my thinking when I first heard the song. Wonder if it would have made any difference to switch out the festivals name dropped in the song to ones that are popular country festivals, or if that's just overthinking things.
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Post by matty005 on Nov 8, 2015 19:52:57 GMT -5
I love this song, but I think another possible reason is that the average country listener might not have heard of many (if any) of these festivals. That was my thinking when I first heard the song. Wonder if it would have made any difference to switch out the festivals name dropped in the song to ones that are popular country festivals, or if that's just overthinking things. I don't even know the names of the popular country ones, haha.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 9, 2015 0:45:00 GMT -5
He could have name-checked CMA Music Fest, lol, but honestly I don't think that lyric really has anything to do with why people aren't "feeling" this song. I'm sure plenty of people in the young demographic that country radio is currently trying to cater to are aware of those music festivals, and the ones that aren't, I doubt they could be bothered to care.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 9, 2015 0:51:23 GMT -5
So many listeners barely pay attention to lyrics at all, so I don't think that's the issue here. Jerrod has never been a huge seller and this song (even though I love it) is just getting a bit lost in the shuffle for folks. Luckily, radio hasn't completely given it the cold shoulder.
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Post by dm2081 on Nov 9, 2015 1:34:08 GMT -5
So many listeners barely pay attention to lyrics at all, so I don't think that's the issue here. Jerrod has never been a huge seller and this song (even though I love it) is just getting a bit lost in the shuffle for folks. Luckily, radio hasn't completely given it the cold shoulder. "Girl Crush" and "Beer With Jesus" would beg to argue. While those are more extreme samples, it does seem that at least the lyrics in the chorus carry some sort of importance to listeners (i.e. the hook). I'm not saying mentioning more obscure music festivals to the fan base is the sole reason why this is fluttering around in the 30's, but I don't think its helping either.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 9, 2015 1:39:59 GMT -5
So many listeners barely pay attention to lyrics at all, so I don't think that's the issue here. Jerrod has never been a huge seller and this song (even though I love it) is just getting a bit lost in the shuffle for folks. Luckily, radio hasn't completely given it the cold shoulder. "Girl Crush" and "Beer With Jesus" would beg to argue. While those are more extreme samples, it does seem that at least the lyrics in the chorus carry some sort of importance to listeners (i.e. the hook). I'm not saying mentioning more obscure music festivals to the fan base is the sole reason why this is fluttering around in the 30's, but I don't think its helping either. I didn't say most don't but many really don't fully take in lyrical content -- just a catchy melody. I have so many family and friends who couldn't tell you what half the songs they're listening to are about. It actually angers me since lyrics are my main love. I agree it doesn't exactly "help" but I really don't believe that's the main or even a major reason the sales have been so poor and its moving slow in the 30's. Most anything Jerrod would have released would have had a slow go up the charts.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 9, 2015 9:23:31 GMT -5
So many listeners barely pay attention to lyrics at all, so I don't think that's the issue here. Jerrod has never been a huge seller and this song (even though I love it) is just getting a bit lost in the shuffle for folks. Luckily, radio hasn't completely given it the cold shoulder. "Girl Crush" and "Beer With Jesus" would beg to argue. While those are more extreme samples, it does seem that at least the lyrics in the chorus carry some sort of importance to listeners (i.e. the hook). I'm not saying mentioning more obscure music festivals to the fan base is the sole reason why this is fluttering around in the 30's, but I don't think its helping either. They're not *that* obscure, and I just can't wrap my mind around someone listening to this and then giving their reason for not liking "Blue Bandana" to be that they don't know what a Lalapalooza is. Like it's such a trivial lyric compared to those other two songs which touched a nerve because they sounded controversial to the casual listener, but there's nothing controversial about name-checking a music festival.
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Post by robenglund on Nov 9, 2015 10:49:21 GMT -5
Today's update is concerning.
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Post by matty005 on Nov 9, 2015 10:52:56 GMT -5
"Girl Crush" and "Beer With Jesus" would beg to argue. While those are more extreme samples, it does seem that at least the lyrics in the chorus carry some sort of importance to listeners (i.e. the hook). I'm not saying mentioning more obscure music festivals to the fan base is the sole reason why this is fluttering around in the 30's, but I don't think its helping either. They're not *that* obscure, and I just can't wrap my mind around someone listening to this and then giving their reason for not liking "Blue Bandana" to be that they don't know what a Lalapalooza is. Like it's such a trivial lyric compared to those other two songs which touched a nerve because they sounded controversial to the casual listener, but there's nothing controversial about name-checking a music festival. I get what you're saying, but I think if people don't understand the song or "get" it in full, they're going to be less likely to enjoy it as much. I love LeAnn Rimes, but her last few efforts, her enunciation has been so bad (mainly, "Nothing Better To Do") that I couldn't make out the lyrics and because of this I liked the song a lot less. I could see this being very similar for people. If I don't fully get the song, I am going to be a lot less likely to buy or stream it, and I bet a lot of people are in the same boat.
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Post by carriekins on Nov 9, 2015 10:57:23 GMT -5
In order for people to "get" a song, they need to be exposed to it in some way, and the low levels of airplay and little promotion are making that difficult, which I think is ultimately hurting this song more than festival references.
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Post by matty005 on Nov 9, 2015 12:48:20 GMT -5
In order for people to "get" a song, they need to be exposed to it in some way, and the low levels of airplay and little promotion are making that difficult, which I think is ultimately hurting this song more than festival references. Oh I totally agree. But there have always been songs that are kind of obscure (like I feel this one is) that seem to sell well even without huge airplay.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 9, 2015 13:06:08 GMT -5
After today's update, "Blue Bandana" has lost a combined 160 spins over the past seven days and has lost 100k in audience over that time frame. Things aren't looking good for this one but I hope Arista continues to push this one just because I love it so much...but its just not really connecting on any level right now and perhaps they will pull the plug on this before the holidays. We'll know for sure in the next couple days.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 9, 2015 13:16:06 GMT -5
In order for people to "get" a song, they need to be exposed to it in some way, and the low levels of airplay and little promotion are making that difficult, which I think is ultimately hurting this song more than festival references. This is true and I feel like this is definitely a better reason for why it isn't selling, but it's still selling worse than just about anything else with similar or even some with lower levels of airplay, too, which is quite alarming. That said, there does seems to also be an unusually large number of songs currently below the Top 30 that just aren't selling at all really.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Nov 10, 2015 2:42:23 GMT -5
I hope they continue pushing this to at least the top 20 (impossible, but I hope so) so that Jerrod doesn't have to resort to selling out again like he did with "Drink to That All Night" or "Donkey"
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Post by robenglund on Nov 10, 2015 13:36:06 GMT -5
I hope they continue pushing this to at least the top 20 (impossible, but I hope so) so that Jerrod doesn't have to resort to selling out again like he did with "Drink to That All Night" or "Donkey" Donkey didn't even crack the Top 40 (at least on BB not sure about MB) so I wouldn't say "selling out" was necessarily successful for him. But I agree with you that I hope he releases more material like "Blue Bandana". Like I said earlier I think it's the best thing he's ever released to radio and perhaps his best song to date.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 10, 2015 13:43:19 GMT -5
I hope they continue pushing this to at least the top 20 (impossible, but I hope so) so that Jerrod doesn't have to resort to selling out again like he did with "Drink to That All Night" or "Donkey" Donkey didn't even crack the Top 40 (at least on BB not sure about MB) so I wouldn't say "selling out" was necessarily successful for him. But I agree with you that I hope he releases more material like "Blue Bandana". Like I said earlier I think it's the best thing he's ever released to radio and perhaps his best song to date. "Donkey" peaked at #44 on MB and #43 on Billboard.
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Post by robenglund on Nov 10, 2015 13:52:01 GMT -5
Donkey didn't even crack the Top 40 (at least on BB not sure about MB) so I wouldn't say "selling out" was necessarily successful for him. But I agree with you that I hope he releases more material like "Blue Bandana". Like I said earlier I think it's the best thing he's ever released to radio and perhaps his best song to date. "Donkey" peaked at #44 on MB and #43 on Billboard. Radio didn't ride the D-O-N-K-E-Y
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 10, 2015 13:55:14 GMT -5
"Donkey" peaked at #44 on MB and #43 on Billboard. Radio didn't ride the D-O-N-K-E-Y That song's failure is the gift that keeps on giving.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Nov 10, 2015 21:42:19 GMT -5
Didn't the advertising for Buzz Back Girl outright pretend that Donkey didn't exist and refer to BBG as "second single"?
Also, try and tell me that some of the lines in Donkey aren't straight-up about sodomy. "They all walk funny when they're done, riding you know who". Too freaking far, dude. And I thought it was bad when Alan Jackson brought out his inner Herbert the Pervert in Country Boy ("climb in my bed, I'll take you for a ride"… single entendre much?).
Finally, I wouldn't call DtTAN "selling out" since I felt it did its bro-ness differently from most of its competition. Outside the Auto-Tune, I thought it had a more "organic" production that gave it more energy and sonic variation than usual.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 10, 2015 22:06:00 GMT -5
Didn't the advertising for Buzz Back Girl outright pretend that Donkey didn't exist and refer to BBG as "second single"? Also, try and tell me that some of the lines in Donkey aren't straight-up about sodomy. "They all walk funny when they're done, riding you know who". Too freaking far, dude. And I thought it was bad when Alan Jackson brought out his inner Herbert the Pervert in Country Boy ("climb in my bed, I'll take you for a ride"… single entendre much?). Finally, I wouldn't call DtTAN "selling out" since I felt it did its bro-ness differently from most of its competition. Outside the Auto-Tune, I thought it had a more "organic" production that gave it more energy and sonic variation than usual. Arista/Sony realized their error and gave "Buzz Back Girl" an add date immediately after "Donkey" went recurrent. I don't recall them ever referring to BBG as the second single but they basically prentedned "Donkey" never happened. They got rid of any reference to the song and scrapped the release of a music video. I mean, I really can't blame them since they were just attempting to salvage the album at that point. I seriously doubt that "Donkey" would have seen radio if it was Randy Goodman in charge then and not Gary Overton.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 10, 2015 23:06:01 GMT -5
Finally, I wouldn't call DtTAN "selling out" since I felt it did its bro-ness differently from most of its competition. Outside the Auto-Tune, I thought it had a more "organic" production that gave it more energy and sonic variation than usual. To borrow a line from you: I want some of whatever you're having.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 12, 2015 13:40:46 GMT -5
I think "Blue Bandana" won't be going any higher. Its lost 250 spins and 400k in total audience over the past 12 days and lost 160 points on MB this past chart issue. There's also been zero adds the past two weeks.
This would be three consecutive singles for Jerrod that have failed to crack the top 30.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2015 13:46:33 GMT -5
This is odd, really. Everyone I have talked to that has heard this song said it was amazing. This is the type of music we need from Jerrod. It just wasn't connecting. Sales were bad too. Really strange. I had only heard it on the radio (non countdown show) once which is abnormal for a song nearing the top 30.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 13, 2015 13:28:52 GMT -5
This one's officially done as Jerrod's lost another 54 spins and over 200k in audience today. "Blue Bandana" will go recurrent on MB on November 22nd (went without a bullet this past week).
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Post by robenglund on Nov 13, 2015 13:43:49 GMT -5
:'(
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