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Post by jjose712 on Aug 12, 2015 8:47:19 GMT -5
Any internet discussion about Macklemore eventually devolves into essays about hip hop community this or appropriation that. While there might be merits to these arguments in other cases, they hardly apply to Macklemore. The reason why Macklemore gets crap is because he is a terrible rapper that went multiplatinum. Now, his ability as a chr/pop artist is a different story, but don't expect the hip hop community to worship bad rappers just because they can get a Chr hit. Well, but that's a totally different discussion. Anyway he is very far from being the only "bad rapper" (frankly i don't know enough about rap to judge that) who has success. And to be honest, some of the good ones have lyrics that are laughable in some cases and shameful in others. Maybe it's because i look from outside but with rappers it seems to happen something similar that what happens with some sacred cows in literature, once you get your status is very difficult to find someone who is going to be critic of your work, there are a lot of Nobel winners with mediocre books after winning the prize and critics seem very reluctant to do their job, with rappers it seems something similar (the best of the year list are usually full of crappy songs from big names). Of course with rappers that's never a real problem because there's always another rapper making the critic (generally in a very harsh way)
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Aug 20, 2015 6:05:49 GMT -5
Top 40 on Pop:
51 38 MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS Growing Up f/Ed Sheeran 1138 738 400 10.927
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Post by jred on Aug 20, 2015 12:08:37 GMT -5
I just realized that this sounds a lot like "I'm Not The Only One" production-wise. Glad to see it's top 40!
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Post by Josh Spicer on Aug 20, 2015 13:17:09 GMT -5
If rap fans are gonna criticize Macklemore for being a "bad rapper" than ya'll need to focus on dudes like Fetty or Quan or damn near any rap song that's come out all summer.
From a rap standpoint, Macklemore isn't "bad". He's simplistic, yes, but he isn't at all what I'd call "bad". Dude can rhyme and stay on flow. Not sure how that constitutes him as "bad."
That being said, all in all, a good song.
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Post by Bhad Bill on Aug 20, 2015 17:05:42 GMT -5
If rap fans are gonna criticize Macklemore for being a "bad rapper" than ya'll need to focus on dudes like Fetty or Quan or damn near any rap song that's come out all summer. From a rap standpoint, Macklemore isn't "bad". He's simplistic, yes, but he isn't at all what I'd call "bad". Dude can rhyme and stay on flow. Not sure how that constitutes him as "bad." That being said, all in all, a good song. This so much. I like Fetty, but let's not pretend that "I'm in the kitchen cooking pies with my baby" is any less campy and fun than "I'm gonna pop some tags". Fetty has his fair share of haters, and I think that we need to wait and see if anything he makes gets critically acclaimed or wins major awards like Macklemore. If he does, and people do not claim he is bad, that's when we can readdress this issue. In the meantime, I agree that macklemore can rhyme and stay on flow. It is really just the stigma of winning the rap Grammy and the white privilege argument that led to this situation.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2015 12:50:55 GMT -5
Back to top 50 on Pop.
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Post by 7am on Oct 28, 2015 14:13:50 GMT -5
Wow that's unexpected. Now put this on Spotify please...
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Post by Future Captain on Oct 28, 2015 22:46:57 GMT -5
I actually really like this.... Less polarizing than Downtown, even though I like both.
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Post by Spidey on Oct 28, 2015 22:54:51 GMT -5
They should just push this song after "Downtown" officially peaks. I could see it turning out to be a big hit.
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Post by nikkominaj on Oct 29, 2015 14:13:46 GMT -5
My CHR has been ignoring Downtown and playing this song like its a top 5 hit!
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Post by Glove Slap on Oct 29, 2015 21:30:37 GMT -5
This made callout. With significantly better scores than Downtown.
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Post by Wavey✨️ on Oct 29, 2015 23:30:35 GMT -5
Might as well make this the 2nd single.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Oct 29, 2015 23:38:30 GMT -5
This made callout. With significantly better scores than Downtown. Downtown sucks. Yea yea yea the end is good, but that means listening to the rest. It's a channel changer.
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Post by popbox on Oct 30, 2015 0:43:39 GMT -5
Meh. This era is shaping up to be a real sophomore slump for them. At least they're not letting the lukewarm Downtown linger though.
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Post by jred on Oct 30, 2015 15:18:27 GMT -5
I don't know if this is exactly why, but I feel like "Downtown" might be struggling a bit because this was released so early - there's still tons of stations playing this. "Downtown" has great sales and streaming while this has neither of them, so I'm sure if this was released on there as well it would be crushing it.
Plus, "Downtown" isn't the strongest comeback single. I feel like it would have smashed as a second single, similar to "Can't Hold Us".
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Post by mkarns on Oct 30, 2015 22:39:01 GMT -5
Wouldn't call this a sophomore slump yet, as the next album hasn't even been released, but "Downtown" has kind of a hodgepodgey feel that may not have been a great fit for radio, at least as a first single. It probably got as far as it did largely to name recognition.
While awaiting the next album, promoting "Growing Up" as a followup of sorts (even if it was actually put out first) makes some sense to keep things going until the album arrives.
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Post by Glove Slap on Oct 31, 2015 0:06:42 GMT -5
Was this confirmed for the album?
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Post by Libra on Oct 31, 2015 1:10:57 GMT -5
I don't know if this is exactly why, but I feel like "Downtown" might be struggling a bit because this was released so early - there's still tons of stations playing this. "Downtown" has great sales and streaming while this has neither of them, so I'm sure if this was released on there as well it would be crushing it. Plus, "Downtown" isn't the strongest comeback single. I feel like it would have smashed as a second single, similar to "Can't Hold Us". "Tons", is an exaggeration. This turned up on Billboard's New & Active last week, with only 16 stations on it. And from what I've been able to determine, their Pop reporting panel isn't much smaller than Mediabase's (which currently numbers 188). Incidentally: It wasn't N&A on this week's chart, but its spin total for last week is also smaller than that of the #5 N&A this week.
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Post by jred on Nov 1, 2015 9:52:56 GMT -5
I don't know if this is exactly why, but I feel like "Downtown" might be struggling a bit because this was released so early - there's still tons of stations playing this. "Downtown" has great sales and streaming while this has neither of them, so I'm sure if this was released on there as well it would be crushing it. Plus, "Downtown" isn't the strongest comeback single. I feel like it would have smashed as a second single, similar to "Can't Hold Us". "Tons", is an exaggeration. This turned up on Billboard's New & Active last week, with only 16 stations on it. And from what I've been able to determine, their Pop reporting panel isn't much smaller than Mediabase's (which currently numbers 188). Incidentally: It wasn't N&A on this week's chart, but its spin total for last week is also smaller than that of the #5 N&A this week. Oh, with all the spins I thought it would have more stations.
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Post by Libra on Nov 1, 2015 20:20:16 GMT -5
"Tons", is an exaggeration. This turned up on Billboard's New & Active last week, with only 16 stations on it. And from what I've been able to determine, their Pop reporting panel isn't much smaller than Mediabase's (which currently numbers 188). Incidentally: It wasn't N&A on this week's chart, but its spin total for last week is also smaller than that of the #5 N&A this week. Oh, with all the spins I thought it would have more stations. Normally, yes, there'd be more stations playing a song even in this position. (Of the 5 N&A songs, three all have 56 stations each, one has 61, one has 43.) This, however, has never been a "normal" song.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 18:35:17 GMT -5
Still getting adds. Got 1 more new one.
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Post by DJ General on Nov 24, 2015 20:03:08 GMT -5
It just felt so strange for them to use an A-List artist on a "throwaway" track. It should have been promoted as an official single, or saved for one at a later point. Ed is having an on fire radio career right now and people were waiting for new M&RL, so it made no sense to release this then rush Downtown.
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Post by Spidey on Nov 24, 2015 20:44:41 GMT -5
It just felt so strange for them to use an A-List artist on a "throwaway" track. It should have been promoted as an official single, or saved for one at a later point. Ed is having an on fire radio career right now and people were waiting for new M&RL, so it made no sense to release this then rush Downtown. This would have been a huge hit with a proper release and promotion.
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Post by maine on Feb 25, 2016 23:18:03 GMT -5
Sorry to bump, but this is worth mentioning: The album is out now, and this is album only. I'm definitely thinking that Ed's label, or Ed himself, have forced this with all of his features that aren't singles. This has now happened with this, "All About It" (Hoodie Allen), "Dark Times" (The Weeknd), and that Tori Kelly feature. There's probably more I'm not thinking of, but whatevs.
It's kind of annoying to be honest...
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Post by thatchos on Feb 26, 2016 8:55:50 GMT -5
Sorry to bump, but this is worth mentioning: The album is out now, and this is album only. I'm definitely thinking that Ed's label, or Ed himself, have forced this with all of his features that aren't singles. This has now happened with this, "All About It" (Hoodie Allen), "Dark Times" (The Weeknd), and that Tori Kelly feature. There's probably more I'm not thinking of, but whatevs. It's kind of annoying to be honest... I think this is album only because of the free download on the website. It's kind of weird. If you check iTunes, Growing Up is album only, and all the other tracks can be purchased on their own for $1.29, except for White Privilege II, which is still free.
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