.indulgecountry
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 20, 2015 23:58:05 GMT -5
Pretty subpar video, imo. Funny how a burning house wound up being a focal point in this because Cam just completely blew this video out of the water with the treatment for "Burning House," so a bit poor timing for that, lol. Plus the editing and camerwork was actually kind of awful. And he needs to ditch the beard because... no. Just no. As for the song itself, this is definitely his first single thus far that actually doesn't really work for me. Country or not arguments aside, this just isn't that good of a song, imo (something I couldn't say of his last three -- I liked all of them). But those verses on this are about as un-catchy as the end of a medicine commercial where they list all the side effects... just terrible. The chorus is a bit redeeming and there was promise there, but I just feel like it's such a chore just to get through the first verse to reach that point in the song that I can't see myself bothering for long. I think I liked everything else on his album (been awhile since I listened to it on Spotify), but this is definitely the weakest song on it for me.
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Post by dm2081 on Oct 21, 2015 11:07:20 GMT -5
Got to disagree, the beard needs to say.
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Post by rsmatto on Oct 21, 2015 13:17:49 GMT -5
The Beard works. Also, the very first time I heard this live I knew it was going to be a huge, huge hit. That was the moment (in May 2014) that I knew he was destined to be a superstar.
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Post by hosssulpizio on Oct 21, 2015 13:48:11 GMT -5
I've been on the fence about buying Montevallo for MONTHS now. I like every Sam Hunt single. I don't care if he's country or not. His music is made with effort and quality. Comparing him (and his rnb/pop influence) to Thomas Rhett is as insult to Sam, in my opinion. Thomas, to me, purposely was re-marketed and engineered to be genre bending, with pop filler songs throughout his new album, with a few country songs to keep him on the genre chart. Montevallo is Sam's first album. There are videos on YouTube of him singing the same songs for YEARS. He's always been the type of songwriter and artist for a while now. He was promoted to country radio and stuck like glue. At least it's good! Actually it's not good at all, especially for Country music. His music should be played at Pop radio only because there is nothing about his music that is country. I have a feeling he will go full on to pop radio and leave country behind. So yeah I think he will pull a "Taylor Swift". Thomas Rhett and Sam Hunt basically do sound the same, so I don't know where you are getting your opinion from. The only difference between their music is that Thomas Rhett has a great new single on the radio and that there is a few country sounding songs on his album.
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Post by brinkeronline on Oct 21, 2015 14:43:35 GMT -5
I've been on the fence about buying Montevallo for MONTHS now. I like every Sam Hunt single. I don't care if he's country or not. His music is made with effort and quality. Comparing him (and his rnb/pop influence) to Thomas Rhett is as insult to Sam, in my opinion. Thomas, to me, purposely was re-marketed and engineered to be genre bending, with pop filler songs throughout his new album, with a few country songs to keep him on the genre chart. Montevallo is Sam's first album. There are videos on YouTube of him singing the same songs for YEARS. He's always been the type of songwriter and artist for a while now. He was promoted to country radio and stuck like glue. At least it's good! Actually it's not good at all, especially for Country music. His music should be played at Pop radio only because there is nothing about his music that is country. I have a feeling he will go full on to pop radio and leave country behind. So yeah I think he will pull a "Taylor Swift". Thomas Rhett and Sam Hunt basically do sound the same, so I don't know where you are getting your opinion from. The only difference between their music is that Thomas Rhett has a great new single on the radio and that there is a few country sounding songs on his album. I got my opinion from my...brain. I didn't say his album was country - I said I think he's good, regardless of genre. Music doesn't have to fit a genre to be considered quality. I'm genre-inclusive. -Montevallo = Authentically made based on the artist Sam is, as evidenced by years of promoting the same songs and same types of songs. -Whatever Thomas Rhett just put out = Not-authentic, but engineered to fit current country radio trends and MARKET him as 'Country's Bruno Mars' as he and his team so desperately want him to be marketed as.
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Post by The Brazilian Guy 🇧🇷 on Oct 21, 2015 14:48:54 GMT -5
Going past the old argument of Sam not being country , I had to laugh at the claim Thomas and Sam sound the same. They don't sound anything alike, neither does their music. They may go for a similar "R&B Influenced" pop-country sound but their final products are pretty different, mostly because Thomas is as soulful as a paper weight... that sound doesn't complement his voice or style of singing at all. Sam sounds pretty natural doing the music he's doing... you can see and hear that's 100% his style (may you like his music or not).
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 29, 2015 12:17:49 GMT -5
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Post by rsmatto on Oct 29, 2015 12:41:35 GMT -5
Got to disagree, the beard needs to say. He shaved it for his Nashville "Thank you" show last night.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2015 13:04:33 GMT -5
^ In regards to that boot article....it's pretty hard to leave country music when you haven't even been there to begin with.
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 29, 2015 13:12:20 GMT -5
^ You're closer than you think, Sam.
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Post by trebor on Oct 30, 2015 6:25:37 GMT -5
Just discovered that "Take Your Time" went Top 10 in the Netherlands (#10 on 10/17/15) and Top 30 in Flanders (Dutch speaking Belgium) by moving #38 to #29 (10/24/15) there (Belgium has 2 separate charts; one catering to Wallonia (French) and the other for Flanders (Dutch). Sort of like Canada with Quebec situation.)
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Post by maine on Nov 10, 2015 23:44:01 GMT -5
This has grown on me now. I like it now.
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Post by Kat5Kind on Nov 11, 2015 9:05:02 GMT -5
This has grown on me now. I like it now. Cool, you can have him, he ain't country
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Post by zjames on Dec 8, 2015 1:26:46 GMT -5
I know in the past that I haven't been a big supporter of Sam Hunt, but I've been coming around to appreciate his music and songwriting a lot. Do I think that he should be played on country radio? No. But I think he is a good vocalist and a talented songwriter.
I think "Break Up In A Small Town" is one of the best-written songs on country radio of the year. (*ducks for cover*). My favorite lyric is:
She's so far gone, she just didn't go far She was over me before the grass grew back where she used to park her car She's leaving those same marks in someone else's yard In someone else's arms right down the road And I never thought that...
I just really like the descriptiveness in the song, despite the production and vocal arrangement not being exactly perfect. Another Sam Hunt co-write I love is "I Met A Girl". My favorite lyric is:
She don't laugh at everything But when she does the planets swing around her She don't step on sidewalk seams Her teenage boyfriends all still dream about her She don't need the glitter of the Vegas lights She could blow a kiss and leave you spinning like a tilt-a-whirl
The song is written so simply but avoids being boring or immature. Some more Hunt co-writes that I think are well-written are "Single For The Summer", "Take Your Time", "Ex To See", "Come Over", and especially "Cop Car".
I've come around to Sam a lot recently, and I think the reason is because the implementation of pop and R&B elements feel earned and genuine. The production isn't always perfect, but it feels like Sam Hunt. When Thomas Rhett or Zac Brown Band release pop songs, it feels inauthentic and almost insulting. Maybe it's because we've only known one style for Sam's short career. But I think it's more because he's just making good music in general. I really like Montevallo after feeling pretty neutral about it for a while, and I've come to appreciate Sam Hunt as an artist even though I still don't think he should be played on country radio.
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Post by dm2081 on Dec 8, 2015 2:26:37 GMT -5
I'm also beginning to think this one can hit the top 5. It's gains have been pretty normal lately, and unless it suddenly hits a brick wall in the next few weeks, I don't see why this can't be top 5 bound. It's peak now is looking a lot better than the infancy of it's chart run.
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Post by The Brazilian Guy 🇧🇷 on Dec 8, 2015 7:02:25 GMT -5
I know in the past that I haven't been a big supporter of Sam Hunt, but I've been coming around to appreciate his music and songwriting a lot. Do I think that he should be played on country radio? No. But I think he is a good vocalist and a talented songwriter. I think "Break Up In A Small Town" is one of the best-written songs on country radio of the year. ( *ducks for cover*). My favorite lyric is: She's so far gone, she just didn't go far She was over me before the grass grew back where she used to park her car She's leaving those same marks in someone else's yard In someone else's arms right down the road And I never thought that...
I just really like the descriptiveness in the song, despite the production and vocal arrangement not being exactly perfect. Another Sam Hunt co-write I love is "I Met A Girl". My favorite lyric is: She don't laugh at everythingBut when she does the planets swing around herShe don't step on sidewalk seamsHer teenage boyfriends all still dream about herShe don't need the glitter of the Vegas lightsShe could blow a kiss and leave you spinning like a tilt-a-whirlThe song is written so simply but avoids being boring or immature. Some more Hunt co-writes that I think are well-written are "Single For The Summer", "Take Your Time", "Ex To See", "Come Over", and especially "Cop Car". I've come around to Sam a lot recently, and I think the reason is because the implementation of pop and R&B elements feel earned and genuine. The production isn't always perfect, but it feels like Sam Hunt. When Thomas Rhett or Zac Brown Band release pop songs, it feels inauthentic and almost insulting. Maybe it's because we've only known one style for Sam's short career. But I think it's more because he's just making good music in general. I really like Montevallo after feeling pretty neutral about it for a while, and I've come to appreciate Sam Hunt as an artist even though I still don't think he should be played on country radio. That's pretty much how I feel about him. I think I'm one of his most "vocal" supporters around here and I don't even consider myself a big fan. I just think a lot of times people mix things up in a way that the message becomes "he's not country = he's a fraud, or a crappy artist". I've seen a lot of that reasoning around here (and on the Internet in general) and I personally don't think that's fair. I'm not saying people can't think he is a crappy artist (they totally can! LOL), but I guess my point is that people are free to think he shouldn't be played on Country Radio with songs like "Break Up in a Small Town", and STILL think he's a good or genuine artist... those things don't need to be mutually exclusive, and a lot of times I get the feeling a lot of people think they are and should be exclusive concepts.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2015 7:09:43 GMT -5
I don't even think is a great lyrical song. The fact that he can't get over a girl because the town is too small is just.....stupid. Plus, he says that he needs to move or move on, yet continues to whine about it, to the point of fantasizing about physically assaulting his exe's new lover. Just my opinion, but that doesn't sound like poetry to me.
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Post by matty005 on Dec 8, 2015 7:13:26 GMT -5
I don't even think is a great lyrical song. The fact that he can't get over a girl because the town is too small is just.....stupid. Plus, he says that he needs to move or move on, yet continues to whine about it, to the point of fantasizing about physically assaulting his exe's new lover. Just my opinion, but that doesn't sound like poetry to me. It's not because the town is small he can't get over here. It's because they live in a small town he is constantly running into her, or seeing her with her new guy. I don't think that's stupid at all. It's hard to get over someone you love - even harder when you see them everyday - and almost impossible when you see them with someone new.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2015 7:19:21 GMT -5
I don't even think is a great lyrical song. The fact that he can't get over a girl because the town is too small is just.....stupid. Plus, he says that he needs to move or move on, yet continues to whine about it, to the point of fantasizing about physically assaulting his exe's new lover. Just my opinion, but that doesn't sound like poetry to me. It's not because the town is small he can't get over here. It's because they live in a small town he is constantly running into her, or seeing her with her new guy. I don't think that's stupid at all. It's hard to get over someone you love - even harder when you see them everyday - and almost impossible when you see them with someone new. Even with that being said, the latter half of my comment is my main problem with the song anyway. And plus, the framing. Dear God. Everyone knows this crap ain't country, so what do they do to make it Country? Make it about a small town! Specifically state that it's in a small town! That'll do it! No Sam, nice try, but no cigar.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Dec 8, 2015 10:56:39 GMT -5
You really think that the "small town" thing is just a "token" thing he threw in just to make the song "country", akin to an outlaw poseur name-dropping Waylon Jennings to "prove" outlaw cred that he clearly doesn't have? To me, that's just a detail that bolsters it and makes it relatable.
I've lived in a small town all my life. I run into the same people day after day. I met my former 2nd grade teacher at Walmart yesterday. I constantly see people from my church at the McDonald's I work at. For that reason, I can totally understand the concept of constantly, accidentally running into your ex and her new boyfriend, even when you're trying to get over her.
Also, at which point does physical assault come up? "I wanna jump out, I wanna fight"? Just one word. And who says that means assault? Maybe he means something less aggressive, like a war of words. Maybe he means "fighting" his own emotions. And then he says right away that he can't bring himself to do it. Fantasizing about it and doing it are two different things.
I'm just puzzled. I'm fine if you dislike the sound of the song, because I can see how polarizing that is even if I like it a lot. But with your take on the lyrics, I'm wondering if you're even listening to the same song that I am.
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Post by jferstler on Dec 8, 2015 11:01:14 GMT -5
I think the whole Sam Hunt isn't country train left town about 4 number ones ago. He's here to stay and he makes some damn good music, he's a solid artist. Writes his ow stuff and can accompany himself on multiple instruments. I didn't care for some of his stuff t first but have came to appreciate it since. @zjames makes a great point when they point out how well his songs are wrote.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2015 12:00:43 GMT -5
You really think that the "small town" thing is just a "token" thing he threw in just to make the song "country", akin to an outlaw poseur name-dropping Waylon Jennings to "prove" outlaw cred that he clearly doesn't have? To me, that's just a detail that bolsters it and makes it relatable. I've lived in a small town all my life. I run into the same people day after day. I met my former 2nd grade teacher at Walmart yesterday. I constantly see people from my church at the McDonald's I work at. For that reason, I can totally understand the concept of constantly, accidentally running into your ex and her new boyfriend, even when you're trying to get over her. Also, at which point does physical assault come up? "I wanna jump out, I wanna fight"? Just one word. And who says that means assault? Maybe he means something less aggressive, like a war of words. Maybe he means "fighting" his own emotions. And then he says right away that he can't bring himself to do it. Fantasizing about it and doing it are two different things. I'm just puzzled. I'm fine if you dislike the sound of the song, because I can see how polarizing that is even if I like it a lot. But with your take on the lyrics, I'm wondering if you're even listening to the same song that I am. Hey, I'll give you the relatability factor. It's a good point actually. Looking at it now, I'd say the idea for the song is good, but I still take issue with the word choices used. She would "get down" with someone? Come again? Also, within the first two lines we have a reference to a freakin' party. I realize that's not what the song is about, but the reference is still there, and I doubt that it's for "artistic" purposes. That's an opinion however. I also find the line about the parking the car on the grass corny. Also, as I mentioned before he specifically says "you gotta move or move on", and yet he continues to whine throughout the entire course of the song.....
Bad choice of words with "assault", however he does allude to violence with the lyrics you pointed out, along with the very mature, "**** that guy" And when did I ever say he actually did do it? I know he didn't do it, that's why I specifically said he "fantasizes" about it. And who says that his "fighting" is what you imply? I'm not saying either of us are right or wrong in our assumptions, but saying that I am wrong just because my view of it doesn't match up with yours isn't fair.
And yes I have listened to the song, multiple times in fact to wrap my around the appeal. I even listened to it again this morning. But never again.....*shudders*
It's better written than a lot of stuff out there, but that doesn't (to me) make it a well written song.
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Post by trebor on Dec 8, 2015 15:12:52 GMT -5
I'm wondering if you're even listening to the same song that I am. Just a quick note and please, please don't get mad at me but such a statement is highly unprofessional and insulting! And I'm out of here...
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Post by maine on Dec 8, 2015 15:35:48 GMT -5
I'm wondering if you're even listening to the same song that I am. Just a quick note and please, please don't get mad at me but such a statement is highly unprofessional and insulting! And I'm out of here... How is that insulting???
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Post by trebor on Dec 8, 2015 15:47:14 GMT -5
Just a quick note and please, please don't get mad at me but such a statement is highly unprofessional and insulting! And I'm out of here... How is that insulting??? A) Such expressions are not allowed in the country forum; and it's not very adult or argumentative. B) Because it's patronizing and implies the opponent party to be moronic or worse.
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Post by maine on Dec 8, 2015 15:55:43 GMT -5
A) Such expressions are not allowed in the country forum; and it's not very adult or argumentative. B) Because it's patronizing and implies the opponent party to be moronic or worse. I didn't get that vibe whatsoever on that sentence.
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 8, 2015 16:07:06 GMT -5
2) Post Respectfully and with Common Sense. The atmosphere of a forum is always more encouraging when we treat one another with respect. Make sure you’re staying on topic and not repeating yourself or others; this should be common sense! If you're posting in a thread, it's encouraged that you read the last couple of pages. Also, if you are posting text from an article elsewhere on the web, you must link to your source. Finally, post about songs, not about people! Examples of inappropriate remarks:
•"It’s about time [name of poster] got suspended. What a jerk." (posting about others is simply not allowed)
•"All you people who like this song need to have your ears checked!" (off-topic, and it insults fellow posters)
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Post by trebor on Dec 8, 2015 16:11:52 GMT -5
A) Such expressions are not allowed in the country forum; and it's not very adult or argumentative. B) Because it's patronizing and implies the opponent party to be moronic or worse. I didn't get that vibe whatsoever on that sentence. I didn't say that this was the original poster's intention. It's just that such a sentence is not to be said regardless of the motivation. Again. Country forum =/= Pop forum May we please now close this to and fro. Thanks :)
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Post by maine on Dec 8, 2015 16:15:16 GMT -5
I didn't get that vibe whatsoever on that sentence. I didn't say that this was the original poster's intention. It's just that such a sentence is not to be said regardless of the motivation. Again. Country forum =/= Pop forumMay we please now close this to and fro. Thanks :) I'm not sure if this is supposed to be aimed at me or what, but I'm not a pop poster.....
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Post by trebor on Dec 8, 2015 16:21:21 GMT -5
I didn't say that this was the original poster's intention. It's just that such a sentence is not to be said regardless of the motivation. Again. Country forum =/= Pop forumMay we please now close this to and fro. Thanks :) I'm not sure if this is supposed to be aimed at me or what, but I'm not a pop poster..... No, it isn't it! Sorry, about that. Can we let go now.
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