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Post by sbp17 on Dec 14, 2015 4:12:58 GMT -5
The stripped version does make the song more appealing to me but it's one of my least favorites on the CD so almost anything was an improvement. I will say again that the chorus is great but the verses are just bad to me.
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Post by Unhinged on Dec 15, 2015 20:00:58 GMT -5
I really like this song. She's had some very strong singles as of late.
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 16, 2015 18:06:23 GMT -5
I really like this song. She's had some very strong singles as of late. Yet they peak in the top three. Anyway, Heartbeat debuts at #49 in Canada.
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Post by 14887fan on Dec 16, 2015 18:16:18 GMT -5
I really like this song. She's had some very strong singles as of late. Yet they peak in the top three. ..."yet?"
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Post by carrieidol1 on Dec 22, 2015 16:18:28 GMT -5
Heard this for the first time on the radio today. I don't listen to the radio often, but my iPod was dead. They introduced it as "Carrie Underwood with Sam Hunt"... lol.
Nevertheless, it sounds awesome on the radio, I absolutely love it as a single - just waiting for it to take off, fingers crossed!
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Post by tsr on Dec 22, 2015 16:40:56 GMT -5
This has become one of my favorite Carrie songs if not my favorite ever from her. In a genre that I've grown tired of over the last couple of years, Carrie still delivers. Every time.
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Post by carriekins on Dec 22, 2015 16:44:36 GMT -5
Heard this for the first time on the radio today. I don't listen to the radio often, but my iPod was dead. They introduced it as "Carrie Underwood with Sam Hunt"... lol. Nevertheless, it sounds awesome on the radio, I absolutely love it as a single - just waiting for it to take off, fingers crossed! After a mere 20 days it's #24 on Mediabase with one of the largest bullets. I think it's taken off just fine.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Dec 22, 2015 17:17:18 GMT -5
Heard this for the first time on the radio today. I don't listen to the radio often, but my iPod was dead. They introduced it as "Carrie Underwood with Sam Hunt"... lol. Nevertheless, it sounds awesome on the radio, I absolutely love it as a single - just waiting for it to take off, fingers crossed! After a mere 20 days it's #24 on Mediabase with one of the largest bullets. I think it's taken off just fine. I meant digitally and in overall popularity. I take her radio airplay gains with a grain of salt nowadays. At the moment it shows all the signs of a sure fire #1, but this is Carrie we're talking about, lol. I feel confident this could be her biggest overall hit since "Something in the Water", my fingers are crossed!
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Post by 14887fan on Dec 22, 2015 20:16:27 GMT -5
It's rising very naturally on iTunes. It's at #102 on all-genre despite no current promo whatsoever, barring radio. It was at #124 yesterday.
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Post by ant on Dec 23, 2015 8:38:09 GMT -5
I know it's like beating a dead horse, but I just really feel like her label needs to send this to pop. This era has seemed a bit boring/lackluster compared to her others, it just doesn't have the same level of excitement. They need to do something to change things up a bit and get more people interested in this album.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2015 9:08:50 GMT -5
Actually these are the first 2 Carrie songs that haven't been "meh" for me in a while. Everything since "Good Girl" has just had a very dreary feel to it. I've thoroughly enjoyed both singles from this album so far, even though I was critical of this one at first.
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Post by Massikur2 on Dec 23, 2015 11:17:30 GMT -5
I know it's like beating a dead horse, but I just really feel like her label needs to send this to pop. This era has seemed a bit boring/lackluster compared to her others, it just doesn't have the same level of excitement. They need to do something to change things up a bit and get more people interested in this album. Carrie would never allow that. We know this.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Dec 23, 2015 11:24:09 GMT -5
I know it's like beating a dead horse, but I just really feel like her label needs to send this to pop. This era has seemed a bit boring/lackluster compared to her others, it just doesn't have the same level of excitement. They need to do something to change things up a bit and get more people interested in this album. Carrie would never allow that. We know this. She has spoken out against remixing, but I don't know if she has ever actually spoken out against servicing music to multiple/different genres. She obviously has spoken about being solely devoted to country, but sending a song to different genres doesn't necessarily have to compromise that. I'm just speaking hypothetically... I don't think Carrie would ever send a song to other genres unless the song was showing promising gains on those charts on its own, but you never know. Times are changing for sure!
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Post by Massikur2 on Dec 23, 2015 11:42:44 GMT -5
Good morning, buddies. Here's a behind-the-scenes look at the making of "Heartbeat," per Carrie's Facebook page. Enjoy!
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Post by Massikur2 on Dec 23, 2015 11:48:25 GMT -5
Carrie would never allow that. We know this. She has spoken out against remixing, but I don't know if she has ever actually spoken out against servicing music to multiple/different genres. She obviously has spoken about being solely devoted to country, but sending a song to different genres doesn't necessarily have to compromise that. I'm just speaking hypothetically... I don't think Carrie would ever send a song to other genres unless the song was showing promising gains on those charts on its own, but you never know. Times are changing for sure! True, true. I hear ya! I recall her saying a very long time ago that she would never remix her songs and that any crossovers would have to occur "naturally." Honestly, Carrie is a bit of an anomaly to me; she only releases songs to the country format (with the exception of "Some Hearts" in 2005), but she's so well-known across multiple genres. In my own experience, you're quite hard-pressed to find someone who isn't familiar with Carrie Underwood or "Jesus, Take the Wheel" and "Before He Cheats." And remember, we're now ten years out from her Idol win. It's astounding to me that she continues to remain relevant across all genres without necessarily catering to them.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 23, 2015 13:55:52 GMT -5
Actually these are the first 2 Carrie songs that haven't been "meh" for me in a while. Everything since "Good Girl" has just had a very dreary feel to it. I've thoroughly enjoyed both singles from this album so far, even though I was critical of this one at first. He's not talking about people's personal opinions of the era and its songs, but the fact that sales and impact for this era thus far are lower than any of her previous eras. That's not to say that this era isn't doing well and won't continue to do so, but it doesn't take much looking to realize that the Storyteller era is off to a slower start. I still think this song can help remedy that because it sounds like something that will get a strong reaction from the general public, but I do hope that Carrie can line up some solid promo spots to perform this over the winter because this'll probably be peaking or already done by the time the ACMs roll around.
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Post by matteeeb on Dec 23, 2015 18:55:39 GMT -5
I've heard this a few times on HAC stations in Canada, this is s good song!
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Post by Marv on Dec 24, 2015 3:24:17 GMT -5
It's 'taking off' just fine; she' s passing Parmalee tomorrow and with Chris Young as well as Dan & Shay going recurrent on Sunday, she should finish this week at #20 which is very impressive after a mere four weeks of airplay.
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Post by ant on Dec 24, 2015 8:20:40 GMT -5
I just don't understand why her label can't simply send the more "pop-friendly" singles to CHR as well. They don't need a remix, but just send them for adds and see what happens maybe? Obviously, I'm not expecting this for every single, since some of her singles wouldn't appeal to the pop format at all (like "Smoke Break", for example). But songs like "Heartbeat" that have crossover appeal should at least be sent to other formats. It would increase her popularity, sales, and perhaps even bring new fans to the country genre. There's nothing wrong with it.
Carrie is a huge star, and pretty much everyone knows who she is, but I can't help but wonder how much bigger of a force she would be in the industry if they started dipping into her crossover appeal. I mean, let's be real. She's not Miranda Lambert, who is just straight-up country and has no crossover appeal. She's Carrie Underwood, and a lot of her music can appeal to fans of multiple genres.
I really believe that if the singles from the last era had crossed over (more specifically "Good Girl" and "Blown Away"), they would've been major crossover hits and the Blown Away album probably would've been at least 3-4x platinum by now.
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Post by countrygirl918 on Dec 24, 2015 9:13:32 GMT -5
I think they have sent some of her past pop-friendly singles to other formats before - haven't they? Not sure if it's been recently (or anything other than HAC), but I'm pretty sure they've done it. Because there's been no promo outside of an adds date, though, the songs don't usually do too much - a top 20 or 30 peak, sometimes. My guess is the choice not to put much effort into any other formats is Carrie's, because I'm sure the label would want any and all promo from whatever format they can get it from, because promo = $$$.
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Post by desertfloods on Dec 24, 2015 9:23:01 GMT -5
I feel like we've discussed about this issue at least a few times in every era, and someone always gave an explanation about how the inner workings/arrangement of her label and contract have prevented crossover efforts from happening since BHC. Yet, I keep forgetting about those details every time this discussion crops up lol.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Dec 24, 2015 13:52:54 GMT -5
I feel like we've discussed about this issue at least a few times in every era, and someone always gave an explanation about how the inner workings/arrangement of her label and contract have prevented crossover efforts from happening since BHC. Yet, I keep forgetting about those details everytime this discussion crops up lol. Yep, and I think that someone is usually me. I already spoke at some length at Carrie's contract earlier in the thread, but that was in the context of the number of singles per album discussion. To bottom line its relevance here: making a real impact on the CHR/Top-40 format, and even the Hot AC format, will require the involvement of personnel with the relationships and resources to work those formats, i.e., the New York arm of Sony. As of January 2009, Sony's New York arm was no longer part of 19R's licensing of Carrie's music (which goes exclusively to Arista Nashville). So any real crossover effort would mean allowing Sony New York back into the mix, which would also mean negotiating new terms under which Sony New York would get to recoup out of Carrie's royalties (on top of Arista Nashville). So in addition to the known issue of controlling how the music is presented (i.e., without a remix), there's a money factor involved, in terms of who gets to make money from the sales of Carrie's music. And, of course, there are return on investment considerations. Speaking of which... I really believe that if the singles from the last era had crossed over (more specifically "Good Girl" and "Blown Away"), they would've been major crossover hits and the Blown Away album probably would've been at least 3-4x platinum by now. It's easy to make up numbers, but I think the ones you propose are incredibly naive. One need look no further than the muted impact that crossover efforts of "Girl Crush" and "Take Your Time" had on their home albums to understand that. Besides, "Good Girl" and "Blown Away" were sent to Hot AC via Arista Nashville, and they peaked at #20 and #31, respectively, as countrygirl918 pointed out. And if you insist on thinking that with more promotional effort, they would have exploded, then I refer you to what I said above about Sony New York and recouping. It's easy to imagine bigger sales, but it's not realistic to ignore the cost part of the equation. One of the reasons country radio charts seem so manipulated compared to the CHR/Top-40 charts is that CHR/Top-40 is a much more expensive format when it comes to promotion (so it's easier for more country labels to promote their full rosters to radio). There are other costs you're not considering, as well. It would increase her popularity, sales, and perhaps even bring new fans to the country genre. There's nothing wrong with it. Carrie is a huge star, and pretty much everyone knows who she is, but I can't help but wonder how much bigger of a force she would be in the industry if they started dipping into her crossover appeal. I mean, let's be real. She's not Miranda Lambert, who is just straight-up country and has no crossover appeal. She's Carrie Underwood, and a lot of her music can appeal to fans of multiple genres. Again, it's easy to dream of even greater popularity and sales if you don't consider the costs. Have you ever considered that Carrie herself made a decision to limit her exposure out of a self-awareness of how much she is able to handle? For one thing, promotion to the CHR/Top-40 format would mean a whole new set of programmers for Carrie to woo, and as impeccable a work ethic as Carrie may have, I think it's worth considering that her ability to sustain that work ethic depends in part on her placing limits on the obligations she has. Here's the other thing about being a CHR/Top-40-based star these days -- one has to keep oneself relevant from a pop culture standpoint, and CHR/Top-40 popularity is, Adele and perhaps Bruno Mars excepted, built these days on being a provocateur on some level and a willingness to put oneself out there on a pretty constant basis. Carrie, on the other hand, has drawn some pretty clear lines. She does magazine covers to coordinate with album promotion, but she doesn't include her son in photo shoots, and if she does post pictures of her son, those pictures do not show his full face. She did sell People magazine access to her wedding (with money going to charity), but there were clearly people off-limits in its coverage (her father, her husband's family). She continues to focus her promotion on female-targeting magazines instead of seeking "cred"/"validation" from more rockist outlets (which generally target male readers) like Rolling Stone. She's the rare country A-lister who chooses to be off country radio/off the radar living her life for extended periods of time between albums. She's practically the only country headliner who actively chooses not to tour during the summer, typically the best time to tour to drum up big numbers, because that's when her husband has time off from hockey. As this Washington Post profile points out, Carrie strives not to be polarizing and has made what I think is a pretty clear effort to stay off the radars of tabloids and to eschew controversy (her opposition to the Tennessee legislature's attempt to pass an "ag gag" law and her support for marriage equality notwithstanding). She has spoken openly about her social anxiety and her discomfort with being the center of attention. I'm certainly not suggesting that Carrie is allergic to publicity, but the way that Carrie has operated shows pretty clearly that she places limits on what she will pursue. I think big, buzzy eras these days are driven by one of three things: ubiquity, discovery or a comeback narrative. Carrie's success has been so consistent that, despite taking off multiple years between albums, a comeback narrative wouldn't make sense for her. Ten years into her career, "discovery" is not a reasonable option, either. That leaves ubiquity, and some would argue that with the opportunities that Carrie gets (the Grammy Sinatra 100 tribute, New Year's Rockin' Eve, etc.), she is close enough. But it isn't the kind of pop culture-permeating ubiquity that, say, Blake Shelton and Miranda Lambert have had over the past few years (and will no doubt have next year as they release new albums). Both Blake and Miranda serve as object lessons in different ways -- as ubiquitous as Blake is, Bringing Back the Sunshine has sold 437K copies in fifteen months with the benefit of four #1 hits and Blake's Voice presence. Out just two months, Storyteller, with its second single just now scraping into the top-20 in country airplay, will pass Bringing Back the Sunshine's total sales with this week's sales. So ubiquity is no guarantee of actual success, just perceived success. Meanwhile, Miranda's ubiquity has her poised to gain the kind of magazine cover presence that Carrie has had for years. But considering that this is the by-product of a non-stop stream of tabloid headlines like "She cheated on Blake!!!!!"/"Jealous catfight with Gwen!!!!!!!"/stories in which she linked to any man, married or not, that she may have been seen publicly with (for example, Dierks Bentley when he spoke for her at a Nashville event), do you think that Miranda sees these magazine cover opportunities as much more than making the best of a bad situation? My point: ubiquity has its costs, and different people have differing ability to tolerate those costs. The way that Carrie has handled herself, I think she got enough of a taste of what life as a tabloid darling was like in 2007/2008 when her dating life was major tabloid fodder, and she chose to pull back. That was inevitably going to mean less of a pop culture presence over the years, and we've seen that materialize. That translates into having a more difficult time achieving the ubiquity it takes for the kind of buzzy era that you're looking for. But again, considering the cost, I would suggest that the desire for Carrie's star to be even bigger than it already is should be treated as a case of "be careful what you wish for." None of this is to suggest that Carrie can't or won't generate buzz as she continue to promote Storyteller. I just think that it's unrealistic to expect it to come from radio crossover, and that buzz is more likely to come from a live performance or a video from the singles yet to be released from the album. It's not as if the single material isn't there, it just hasn't been released yet. And while I see the argument that Arista Nashville erred by not leading with some of Storyteller's buzzier material, there's a case to be made that "Smoke Break"'s generally good reception, strong reviews and presence on year-end "best of" lists for country will make it a song that hangs around as a strong recurrent while "Heartbeat" fits neatly into the current market, and that both will set up future standouts. We'll see.
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 24, 2015 14:13:49 GMT -5
The one point I will agree with ant is that Blown Away would have sold more if there was a fifth single. That would have tied in with Carrie Underwood's appearance in The Sound Of Music and her Sunday Night Football theme at NBC. Blown away chances there.
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Post by musicfan134 on Dec 25, 2015 0:03:36 GMT -5
The other thing too is that people tend to forget that Carrie's label has sent singles to Hot AC before, including "Undo It", "Good Girl" and "Blown Away" and they all flopped. If they flopped at Hot AC, they're going to flop even harder at Top 40 and that's going to damage Carrie's credibility as an artist.
Just let her rule country music. She's not Taylor Swift, nor does she need/want to be. :)
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Post by 14887fan on Dec 25, 2015 4:27:40 GMT -5
The other thing too is that people tend to forget that Carrie's label has sent singles to Hot AC before, including "Undo It", "Good Girl" and "Blown Away" and they all flopped. If they flopped at Hot AC, they're going to flop even harder at Top 40 and that's going to damage Carrie's credibility as an artist. Just let her rule country music. She's not Taylor Swift, nor does she need/want to be. :) They didn't actively promote them to the formats. They just threw an adds date on those songs and let stations do whatever they wanted with them, hence the low performance. Her "flopping" in another genre (she really didn't flop if they didn't care enough in the first place to do anything beyond saying "Here ya go, AC radio. You can play it starting on this day, or not; we don't care.") wouldn't ruin her credibility as an artist. Her duet with Aerosmith back in 2011(?) flopped and :looks left, looks right: I don't think she's taken any damaging hits to her career since then.
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Post by rsmatto on Dec 25, 2015 7:49:31 GMT -5
The one point I will agree with ant is that Blown Away would have sold more if there was a fifth single. That would have tied in with Carrie Underwood's appearance in The Sound Of Music and her Sunday Night Football theme at NBC. Blown away chances there. Eh, maybe not. She's had the football theme for years and the soundtrack and dvd to that show were released to little fanfare.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Dec 25, 2015 8:51:33 GMT -5
I thought the lyrics had an evocative nature to them on first listen. Interesting that they nabbed Sam Hunt to do the BGVs since A-listers don't usually sing on others' hits like that.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Dec 25, 2015 9:36:24 GMT -5
I thought the lyrics had an evocative nature to them on first listen. Interesting that they nabbed Sam Hunt to do the BGVs since A-listers don't usually sing on others' hits like that. Carrie said recently that Sam Hunt was a friend of a friend who was working on the song with her - something to that extent, and that she felt their voices went well together. I can't remember the story exactly, but the takeaway is that they had mutual connections who brought them together for the song.
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Post by 14887fan on Dec 26, 2015 2:32:44 GMT -5
The one point I will agree with ant is that Blown Away would have sold more if there was a fifth single. That would have tied in with Carrie Underwood's appearance in The Sound Of Music and her Sunday Night Football theme at NBC. Blown away chances there. Eh, maybe not. She's had the football theme for years and the soundtrack and dvd to that show were released to little fanfare. The soundtrack sold over 100k copies. Not little fanfare. But, I agree that her projects at that time wouldn't have made any difference on a fifth single. Completely unrelated things. Not like she'd bust out a performance of the single after "Do Re Mi".
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Post by someguy on Dec 26, 2015 10:44:45 GMT -5
So the local HotAC station just played "What I Never Knew I Always Wanted" as an 'up and coming hit' on their top 30 countdown. I was pretty surprised it wasn't "Heartbeat".
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