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Post by someguy on Mar 14, 2016 21:34:55 GMT -5
I have a hard time with factoring in single sales, as a really strong/popular single will sell the album, not just the single.
Anyway, back to "Heartbeat"....it grew on me a lot, and it's nice to see Carrie get another Billboard airplay #1 (her first since "Blown Away"). I would expect a new single announcement shortly. I'm hoping for "Choctaw County Affair", but I'd settle for "Dirty Laundry" or "Church Bells".
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 14, 2016 21:39:03 GMT -5
So glad she's finally gotten another BB airplay #1! I'm still miffed that they cheated her out of a 3-week #1 with it though so that middle-of-the-road performers like "Break on Me" and (especially) "We Went" could get to the top in its place. Even when her label gets her to the top, they still unbelievably found a way to screw up her natural chart peak. At least it wasn't at the expense of a #1 entirely this time though. #silverlinings I'm hoping for "Choctaw County Affair", but I'd settle for "Dirty Laundry" or "Church Bells". Pulling for one of these three as well. Ideally, I'd love to see 2 of the 3 be released this era (preferably CCA and CB).
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Post by 14887fan on Mar 14, 2016 21:44:36 GMT -5
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Post by bboat11 on Mar 14, 2016 21:50:00 GMT -5
If it HAD to be one of The Big Three that everyone talks about on here (Choctaw, Laundry, and Church Bells), I would choose "Church Bells" for the next single. I honestly do not like "Dirty Laundry" nearly as much as others do. I do think "Choctaw" could be a single, but it would be riskier (which means it might pay off bigger!).
My choice for the next single would be either "Renegade Runaway", "Chaser", or "Relapse". And I think "Chaser" would be my top of the 3 :)
I honestly do not flat-out love any song on the album the way I do "Heartbeat", but I do think any of the remaining songs will grow on me quite a bit once I start hearing them on the radio regardless of what gets chosen next.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 21:56:44 GMT -5
Well my opinion is that as long as it's on BB it should count as a #1 and the rest of her #1s were before the switch and they all got to #1 solely based on AirPlay. Most of chart historians view the AirPlay chart as the true one and the new country songs hybrid one as inaccurate and too digital sales and streaming heavy. Just my opinion I am saying Billboard itself views Country Songs as the main chart. And, really, considering we know all of the politics involved with radio/airplay I don't know why anyone would consider an airplay-only chart to be the best. Billboard doesn't view Hot Country Songs as their main chart. It's on equal footing with Country Airplay (in their eyes, not mine). When they created a separate chart in October 2012, they simply attributed all of their records (pre-1990) to Hot Country Songs, and they count everything from January 1990 to October 2012 as both HCS and Country Airplay.
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Post by Massikur2 on Mar 14, 2016 22:03:34 GMT -5
I'm hoping for "Choctaw County Affair", but I'd settle for "Dirty Laundry" or "Church Bells". Pulling for one of these three as well. Ideally, I'd love to see 2 of the 3 be released this era (preferably CCA and CB). I would love to see them release "Choctaw County Affair" next, but my instincts tell me that it's too soon for that. I believe the song has the capacity to be very well-received, and should they go 5+ singles deep as Sony disclosed earlier, it could be the single that generates the most momentum as she closes out the Storyteller era. I think "CCA" has the potential to become a 'career hit' of Carrie's in the vein of "Jesus, Take the Wheel," "Before He Cheats," "Blown Away," and "Something in the Water." If the label were to not send the track to radio, it would be biggest disservice to her singles discography we've seen thus far. I genuinely believe that it's the best song she's ever recorded. That being said, I think that "Dirty Laundry" and "Church Bells" would both be solid single choices (particularly "DL" as it has a very distinct place in the cheating/revenge songs realm). "Chaser" and "Relapse" would also work well, particularly the former because of the great vocal performance and well-constructed chorus. There are quite a few good picks on this record--something we haven't seen since Carnival Ride (honorable mention to Blown Away, however, as "Do You Think About Me" and "Wine After Whiskey" were missed opportunities for additional success).
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Post by matty005 on Mar 15, 2016 0:17:28 GMT -5
Is this a hint that Dirty Laundry is the next single?
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Post by 14887fan on Mar 15, 2016 0:19:14 GMT -5
Yep, looks like it! She isn't subtle, and that's too random of a tweet for it to not have some correlation. Similar to when she kept calling her dog Penny a "good girl" in her blog post before it was announced that "Good Girl" would be the lead single to BA in 2012.
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Post by Massikur2 on Mar 15, 2016 0:56:12 GMT -5
Well, let's break this down all the way:
"#workworkwork" = "dry, dry, dry" "#funfunfun" = "line, line, line"
#crushedit
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Post by ant on Mar 15, 2016 0:56:47 GMT -5
I was just about to post that Facebook status/tweet lol. I definitely took it as a hint that "Dirty Laundry" is the next single as soon as I saw it.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 15, 2016 9:13:39 GMT -5
As expected, "Heartbeat" will be a one week chart topper as Carrie's song lost 120 spins and over 1.0 million in audience today.
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Post by rsmatto on Mar 15, 2016 18:12:17 GMT -5
Pulling for one of these three as well. Ideally, I'd love to see 2 of the 3 be released this era (preferably CCA and CB). I would love to see them release "Choctaw County Affair" next, but my instincts tell me that it's too soon for that. I believe the song has the capacity to be very well-received, and should they go 5+ singles deep as Sony disclosed earlier, it could be the single that generates the most momentum as she closes out the Storyteller era. I think "CCA" has the potential to become a 'career hit' of Carrie's in the vein of "Jesus, Take the Wheel," "Before He Cheats," "Blown Away," and "Something in the Water." If the label were to not send the track to radio, it would be biggest disservice to her singles discography we've seen thus far. I genuinely believe that it's the best song she's ever recorded. That being said, I think that "Dirty Laundry" and "Church Bells" would both be solid single choices (particularly "DL" as it has a very distinct place in the cheating/revenge songs realm). "Chaser" and "Relapse" would also work well, particularly the former because of the great vocal performance and well-constructed chorus. There are quite a few good picks on this record--something we haven't seen since Carnival Ride (honorable mention to Blown Away, however, as "Do You Think About Me" and "Wine After Whiskey" were missed opportunities for additional success). Choctaw County Affair feels so much like Harper Valley PTA...
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 16, 2016 11:48:16 GMT -5
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Post by ant on Mar 16, 2016 11:56:57 GMT -5
I've had a theory that they are going in reverse order from tracks 5-1 of the album for the singles, so this would actually make sense. And "Church Bells" is one of my favorites on the album, so I'm definitely happy with this, as long as "Dirty Laundry" gets released after.
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Post by jenglisbe on Mar 16, 2016 12:09:16 GMT -5
I am saying Billboard itself views Country Songs as the main chart. And, really, considering we know all of the politics involved with radio/airplay I don't know why anyone would consider an airplay-only chart to be the best. Billboard doesn't view Hot Country Songs as their main chart. It's on equal footing with Country Airplay (in their eyes, not mine). When they created a separate chart in October 2012, they simply attributed all of their records (pre-1990) to Hot Country Songs, and they count everything from January 1990 to October 2012 as both HCS and Country Airplay. Attributing all of their records to Country Songs shows me it is the main chart. For instance in the write-up on "Heartbeat" hitting #1 on the chart, they mention Reba having 11 #1s on the Country Airplay chart. She has more in general, of course, but they don't count them all in relation to that specific chart. In other words Country Songs is the most comprehensive in terms of records. I have a hard time with factoring in single sales, as a really strong/popular single will sell the album, not just the single. But how is that a reason to not count singles sales? And, really, at this point album sales are almost irrelevant anyway.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 16, 2016 12:14:36 GMT -5
For instance in the write-up on "Heartbeat" hitting #1 on the chart, they mention Reba having 11 #1s on the Country Airplay chart. She has more in general, of course, but they don't count them all in relation to that specific chart. In other words Country Songs is the most comprehensive in terms of records. I think that's a statistic dealing with when they started tracking things differently in the 1990s, because she's had 11 #1 country hits since 1990 on Billboard, but all of those were before the recent split of the Hot Country Songs chart into two entities that included the 'new' Country Airplay chart. So, she actually has no #1 hits on what is now called the "Country Airplay" chart because it came out in 2012, and her last #1 was "Turn on the Radio" in January 2011.
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Post by CoJoFan on Mar 17, 2016 17:54:10 GMT -5
My 3 choices for the 3rd single are either "Church Bells", "Mexico" or "Renegade Runaway".
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Post by draggintheriver on Mar 17, 2016 19:30:17 GMT -5
Tonight coming home from work, one of my local country stations revealed the upcoming singles for Carrie Underwood, Sam Hunt, and Zac Brown Band. They claimed Church Bells is shipping to radio within the next few weeks.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Mar 18, 2016 14:50:42 GMT -5
FYI: I moved both the multi-post discussion about single-worthy album tracks from Carrie's previous albums and the discussion about optimal arrival times to Carrie's concerts to the Carrie Underwood | "Storyteller" thread in the General Artist Discussion, A-J Forum. My reasoning: while we do allow some discussion tangents in threads here, both conversations were prolonged (more than five posts apiece), unrelated to "Heartbeat" and Carrie's current chart prospects, and needlessly bumping up a thread for a single that has peaked. I also moved the discussion of "Beautiful Drug" and the exchange about Zac Brown Band's next single to the Zac Brown Band - "Beautiful Drug" thread in this (the Country) forum. That move was for the obvious reason that the "Beautiful Drug" thread is the more appropriate place to be having those conversations.
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Post by Massikur2 on Mar 18, 2016 16:59:21 GMT -5
Well, thank you for helping this thread die in peace.
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Post by jenglisbe on Mar 28, 2016 10:08:37 GMT -5
It looks like "Heartbeat" will be top 10 yet again this week. From what I can tell it isn't normal for a song to get 2 more weeks in the top 10 after falling from #1 (ZBB looks to fall 1-7 this week). How many weeks did it end up spending in the top 10 overall? "Heartbeat" had a really nice run and should do well on the year-end airplay chart, no?
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Post by onebuffalo on Mar 28, 2016 10:18:34 GMT -5
It looks like "Heartbeat" will be top 10 yet again this week. From what I can tell it isn't normal for a song to get 2 more weeks in the top 10 after falling from #1 (ZBB looks to fall 1-7 this week). How many weeks did it end up spending in the top 10 overall? "Heartbeat" had a really nice run and should do well on the year-end airplay chart, no? Top ten chart run since 02/13/16: 09-06-04-03-02-02-01-06 Hope that was helpful!
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