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Post by sabre14 on Feb 13, 2016 14:43:08 GMT -5
"From The Ground Up" saw its 8th day update today and it was a pretty nasty one as it fell at least 11 spots from yesterday, all the way out of the Mediabase top 50. My guess is that Dan + Shay's song lost roughly 400 spins and 4.0 million in total audience.
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Post by countryman87 on Feb 13, 2016 21:50:48 GMT -5
Sounds like vintage Rascal Flatts some especially the chorus. I think this will be another #1 for them and the timing of this song couldn't be any better either as I believe this will peak sometime in June during wedding season. Solid lead single from their upcoming sophomore CD.
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Post by trebor on Feb 14, 2016 8:33:58 GMT -5
I don't feel this at all. It's all so corny and cliché. I'm the exception here because I can't really deal with their vocals.Specially, the stretched vowels are pretty annoying. Let alone the "ooh's" and "aah's". I'll gladly pass on this; but I can see this being a sizeable hit, after all.
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Post by maine on Feb 19, 2016 21:54:25 GMT -5
Wait what?
40 44 DAN + SHAY From The Ground Up 553 867 -314 3.683
Is it normal for a song on Country to do this...? I would say it's an 8th day effect, but it's past that now.
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 19, 2016 21:58:24 GMT -5
Wait what?40 44 DAN + SHAY From The Ground Up 553 867 -314 3.683 Is it normal for a song on Country to do this...? I would say it's an 8th day effect, but it's past that now. The 8th day effect is still being reflected in the seven day bullet though. It won't be totally gone from that seven day update until this Sunday. "From The Ground Up" gained 35 spins and over 200k in audience today.
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Post by maine on Feb 19, 2016 21:59:11 GMT -5
Wait what?40 44 DAN + SHAY From The Ground Up 553 867 -314 3.683 Is it normal for a song on Country to do this...? I would say it's an 8th day effect, but it's past that now. The 8th day effect is still being reflected in the seven day bullet though. It won't be totally gone from that seven day update until this Sunday. "From The Ground Up" gained 35 spins and over 200k in audience today. I was assuming I was just missing something since I know the country chart runs a little differently than the other formats. Thanks though!
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Post by rsmatto on Feb 20, 2016 20:17:40 GMT -5
Sounds like vintage Rascal Flatts some especially the chorus. I think this will be another #1 for them and the timing of this song couldn't be any better either as I believe this will peak sometime in June during wedding season. Solid lead single from their upcoming sophomore CD. To me this Song clearly sounds similar to Rascal Flatts' "Aftermath."
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Post by mus1cr0w on Feb 20, 2016 20:52:58 GMT -5
Responding to a higher post.
This song was DESIGNED to peak during wedding season. This doesnt happen by accident.
Waltz is the easiest dance to learn for a first dance.
It is all engineered and the listening audience are the pawns.
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 20, 2016 21:06:40 GMT -5
I'm liking this one more with every listen.
I'm a willing pawn, lol.
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Post by rsmatto on Feb 20, 2016 21:09:43 GMT -5
I'm liking this one more with every listen. I'm a willing pawn, lol. Same here but some would say I'm a pawn for everyone. Haha.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Mar 3, 2016 21:55:50 GMT -5
Wow, I like this one a lot. It has a warmth and smoothness that I didn't really feel in anything off their first album except "19 You + Me". As I said, I hated "Nothin' Like You" because of how manufactured and insincere it felt; it always felt like it was describing someone who's just a pile of quirks, not an actual person. But this one really hits the feels: it feels like it was written from the heart, and it makes the most of what seems like an uninspired concept on paper. I also like the production a lot, with the instrumentation staying subtle and never bombastic. The two of them also keep the harmonies light and except for one spot, don't do any of the Rascal Flatts-ian high pitched caterwauls that could sink this song.
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Post by hosssulpizio on Mar 4, 2016 1:37:54 GMT -5
Wow, I like this one a lot. It has a warmth and smoothness that I didn't really feel in anything off their first album except "19 You + Me". As I said, I hated "Nothin' Like You" because of how manufactured and insincere it felt; it always felt like it was describing someone who's just a pile of quirks, not an actual person. But this one really hits the feels: it feels like it was written from the heart, and it makes the most of what seems like an uninspired concept on paper. I also like the production a lot, with the instrumentation staying subtle and never bombastic. The two of them also keep the harmonies light and except for one spot, don't do any of the Rascal Flatts-ian high pitched caterwauls that could sink this song. I don't see any reason why you have to bash Rascal Flatts. They are a great trio and there shouldn't be any good reason to trash talk them.
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Post by dm2081 on Mar 4, 2016 2:03:25 GMT -5
Wow, I like this one a lot. It has a warmth and smoothness that I didn't really feel in anything off their first album except "19 You + Me". As I said, I hated "Nothin' Like You" because of how manufactured and insincere it felt; it always felt like it was describing someone who's just a pile of quirks, not an actual person. But this one really hits the feels: it feels like it was written from the heart, and it makes the most of what seems like an uninspired concept on paper. I also like the production a lot, with the instrumentation staying subtle and never bombastic. The two of them also keep the harmonies light and except for one spot, don't do any of the Rascal Flatts-ian high pitched caterwauls that could sink this song. I don't see any reason why you have to bash Rascal Flatts. They are a great trio and there shouldn't be any good reason to trash talk them. Hammer didn't "bash" Rascal Flatts. Just like other artists in these threads that we have all seen you critique, Rascal Flatts are also open up to criticism. They are often compared to Dan + Shay due to similarities in their singing style and single selections, so its make sense for their name to be brought up. Not everyone is going to agree with each other on this board - if we did it would get quite boring.
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Post by straitouttanashville on Mar 5, 2016 11:39:31 GMT -5
Love this song, hope "FTGU" is a multi-week airplay number 1
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Post by Libra on Mar 26, 2016 17:12:18 GMT -5
Okay, so... I'm definitely a big sucker when it comes to ballads, for sure. But I honestly cannot remember the last time I've heard a song and it hit me this hard while listening to it (outside of specific occasions - weddings/funerals/etc.). It took everything I had not to just break down crying, and I'm not making that up. That's just how much it affected me right out of the gate. {Sidebar}I'm not sure that I quite heard the similarity to "A Thousand Years", but I'd probably have to listen again. But even if that's the case...I wouldn't complain at all; "A Thousand Years" was my #3 song for all of 2012 (as well as the top-ranked ballad).
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Post by Mr. Thonk Eyes on Mar 26, 2016 17:19:57 GMT -5
This song is absolutely beautiful, and I loved it pretty much from the first listen. Lyrics are pretty good, but the vocals are what steal the show here, they really kill it on this one.
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Post by bksouthga on Apr 3, 2016 11:59:34 GMT -5
I finally heard this song today, and it makes my stomach hurt. Like when you eat a bunch of skittles and then drink Mountain Dew. And then a Twinkie.
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 3, 2016 12:55:28 GMT -5
Like when you eat a bunch of skittles and then drink Mountain Dew. And then a Twinkie. I can honestly say I've never done this. Should come down crashing hard after that sugar rush, though.
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Post by Libra on Apr 3, 2016 17:36:39 GMT -5
I finally heard this song today, and it makes my stomach hurt. Like when you eat a bunch of skittles and then drink Mountain Dew. And then a Twinkie. Color me confused as to whether this should be taken as a thumbs up or a thumbs down for this song, LOL. I have to say that I love how well this is selling so far for its level of airplay.
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Post by Dustin J. on Apr 12, 2016 7:45:28 GMT -5
This one lost a little ground this week...any reason to be alarmed?
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 12, 2016 8:13:37 GMT -5
This one lost a little ground this week...any reason to be alarmed? I don't think this is one to be alarmed about but its had two very rough updates on Mediabase, over the past three days. It lost 70 spins on Sunday's update and then 80 spins lost according to today's update...but the audience lost is minimal -- just over 200k in audience over the past three days, despite two days that saw a combined loss of 150 spins. Some of those spins lost were due to KKBQ (they cut its spins in half) but that only accounts for a small handful of them. This song is very young still has is selling fabulously, so I'm banking this was just a rough past few days.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 8:14:00 GMT -5
Now I'm really getting concerned for how this works one is doing, Dan + Shay lost 56 spins today, I know this one is expected to take a long chart run, but Dan + Shay have only gained about 600k in audience and a lot of songs are passing or about to (Carrie Underwood, Kip Moore, Canaan Smith, Tucker Beathard). I'm amazed right now at how bad it's doing right now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 0:17:51 GMT -5
Now I'm really getting concerned for how this works one is doing, Dan + Shay lost 56 spins today, I know this one is expected to take a long chart run, but Dan + Shay have only gained about 600k in audience and a lot of songs are passing or about to (Carrie Underwood, Kip Moore, Canaan Smith, Tucker Beathard). I'm amazed right now at how bad it's doing right now. This one has definitely slowed down the past few weeks, but it's simply a case where radio decided to convert some other songs, several of which have been charting longer (and radio wants to help them move up as high as possible before they start dropping). And of course the A-listers have breezed on by in the past few weeks. Dan + Shay will be just fine, though. As their label noted in a full-page ad in tonight's Aircheck issue, "From The Ground Up" is #6 in sales per spin, and it's #8 among country singles on Shazam. I expect this song to be their biggest hit when all is said and done.
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Post by dm2081 on Apr 26, 2016 10:16:07 GMT -5
Very well said once again jhomes87 . I also wanted to point out an interesting article that was in the Billboard Country Update last night that talked about the issue of "tempo" on radio, and the influx of ballads we've seen lately. While some PD's don't see it as big of an issue as others, there definitely seems to be at least a good proportion that are a little annoyed by all the ballads out right now. Here are a couple of excerpts from the article, and I highlighted some of the eye-raising parts from it: The rest of article had other PDs saying they don't mind playing all the slow songs as long as they are popular, but almost all of them acknowledged they're playing way more uptempo recurrents and gold records to compensate for the influx of ballads. I honestly was pretty surprised that they even label "Head Over Boots" and "Somewhere On A Beach" as slow songs that can't be played next to ballads. Both are fluff songs IMO that should appease those looking for lighter fare. So after reading those quotes, I can see now why Dan + Shay might be moving up slower, even though their song is clearly connecting. Radio is simply trying to balance their playlists between ballads and uptempos. I think once a few of the big A-lister's peak with their current "ballads", we will then see "From The Ground Up" start to move a little quicker and possibly get more conversions.
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Post by zjames on Apr 26, 2016 10:20:44 GMT -5
Very well said once again jhomes87 . I also wanted to point out an interesting article that was in the Billboard Country Update last night that talked about the issue of "tempo" on radio, and the influx of ballads we've seen lately. While some PD's don't see it as big of an issue as others, there definitely seems to be at least a good proportion that are a little annoyed by all the ballads out right now. Here are a couple of excerpts from the article, and I highlighted some of the eye-raising parts from it: The rest of article had other PDs saying they don't mind playing all the slow songs as long as they are popular, but almost all of them acknowledged they're playing way more uptempo recurrents and gold records to compensate for the influx of ballads. I honestly was pretty surprised that they even label "Head Over Boots" and "Somewhere On A Beach" as slow songs that can't be played next to ballads. Both are fluff songs IMO that should appease those looking for lighter fare. So after reading those quotes, I can see now why Dan + Shay might be moving up slower, even though their song is clearly connecting. Radio is simply trying to balance their playlists between ballads and uptempos. I think once a few of the big A-lister's peak with their current "ballads", we will then see "From The Ground Up" start to move a little quicker and possibly get more conversions. I found that article fascinating as well. I wouldn't consider "Record Year" to be "slow and sleepy" either, but it's interesting to hear how radio programmers think.
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Post by rsmatto on Apr 27, 2016 0:33:10 GMT -5
Very well said once again jhomes87 . I also wanted to point out an interesting article that was in the Billboard Country Update last night that talked about the issue of "tempo" on radio, and the influx of ballads we've seen lately. While some PD's don't see it as big of an issue as others, there definitely seems to be at least a good proportion that are a little annoyed by all the ballads out right now. Here are a couple of excerpts from the article, and I highlighted some of the eye-raising parts from it: The rest of article had other PDs saying they don't mind playing all the slow songs as long as they are popular, but almost all of them acknowledged they're playing way more uptempo recurrents and gold records to compensate for the influx of ballads. I honestly was pretty surprised that they even label "Head Over Boots" and "Somewhere On A Beach" as slow songs that can't be played next to ballads. Both are fluff songs IMO that should appease those looking for lighter fare. So after reading those quotes, I can see now why Dan + Shay might be moving up slower, even though their song is clearly connecting. Radio is simply trying to balance their playlists between ballads and uptempos. I think once a few of the big A-lister's peak with their current "ballads", we will then see "From The Ground Up" start to move a little quicker and possibly get more conversions. Radio programmers have been 'programmed' by consultants or other 'research' that too many ballads will = people not listening. Which is funny because most of the impactful songs that win awards and often sell VERY well are ballads. This is how we got the 'bro brigade' and the lack of female artists (who are more often ballad/mid-tempo than guys, if only by perception). Then there's a perception you can't play two women (or bands) back to back and you see why it's so damn hard to get anything up the charts at radio! These are the same programmers who complained about too many 'bro songs' and now that the labels give the opposite, they're now complaining about too many ballads? My guess is that radio needs to learn you can't have your Cake (by the ocean) and eat it too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 6:04:00 GMT -5
Well said, Matt.
Every time I see quotes from that guy I typically roll my eyes. Which is strange because his playlist is better than any of the others around me.
Nonetheless, that's a very antiquated way of thinking. Sure "Head Over Boots", "Outskirts of Heaven", and "Stone Cold Sober" are all slower but they are all so different. In fact, I think there's a better flow when they are played beside each other.
Would I love to hear more tempo throwbacks similar to those from five to ten years ago? Songs like "Rain is a Good Thing", "All About Tonight", "Bait a Hook", "Tequila Makes Her Clothes Fall Off", "Cowboy Casanova", "These Are My People"? Hell yeah! I love hearing songs like that.
The problem is nobody makes them anymore. Here's a novel idea genius PD: why don't you play some of those songs? Not every song in your playlist has to be younger than 3 years old.
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Post by rsmatto on Apr 27, 2016 22:54:12 GMT -5
Well said, Matt. Every time I see quotes from that guy I typically roll my eyes. Which is strange because his playlist is better than any of the others around me. Nonetheless, that's a very antiquated way of thinking. Sure "Head Over Boots", "Outskirts of Heaven", and "Stone Cold Sober" are all slower but they are all so different. In fact, I think there's a better flow when they are played beside each other. Would I love to hear more tempo throwbacks similar to those from five to ten years ago? Songs like "Rain is a Good Thing", "All About Tonight", "Bait a Hook", "Tequila Makes Her Clothes Fall Off", "Cowboy Casanova", "These Are My People"? Hell yeah! I love hearing songs like that. The problem is nobody makes them anymore. Here's a novel idea genius PD: why don't you play some of those songs? Not every song in your playlist has to be younger than 3 years old. Hell, "What Was I Thinkin'" still sounds fresh all these years later. Current even.
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Post by maine on Apr 28, 2016 23:13:47 GMT -5
Album is called Obsessed and is due out June 3rd. You can pre-order it on iTunes now and receive "From the Ground Up" and new song "Already Ready" instantly.
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Post by dm2081 on May 5, 2016 22:59:18 GMT -5
"Road Trippin'" sounds like a future big hit. "Obsessed" could be a big risk worth taking.
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