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Post by sabre14 on Mar 4, 2016 0:47:31 GMT -5
Does anyone know where this is on Mediabase? #56.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 10, 2016 21:23:02 GMT -5
I'm falling in love with this... I keep getting it stuck in my head. I really didn't wanna like this but fuck it's growing on me a lot.
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Post by dm2081 on Mar 10, 2016 21:55:02 GMT -5
This is becoming one of my favorite songs out there right now. First, its nice to see a new artist have their debut single be a ballad, instead of the usual fluff we are forced to absorb. Second, he has a pretty distinct voice and he sounds really well on this one. I like the change in his tone when it shifts from the verse to the chorus. Again, I'll be shocked if this doesn't hit #1 or #2 on the charts, and I he won't even need OTV to do so.
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Post by dm2081 on Mar 17, 2016 23:11:24 GMT -5
Sorry for the double post, but "Wide Open" on his new EP sounds like a big hit in the making. The whole EP is great honestly, "Excuses" is definitely single worthy for a future day as well.
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Post by hosssulpizio on Mar 18, 2016 0:08:10 GMT -5
Sorry for the double post, but "Wide Open" on his new EP sounds like a big hit in the making. The whole EP is great honestly, "Excuses" is definitely single worthy for a future day as well. I disagree. I don't think any of the songs on his EP sound like hits.
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Post by Kat5Kind on Mar 18, 2016 6:27:35 GMT -5
I hope he gets more hits off of this EP, whether Pulse agrees or not.
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Post by hosssulpizio on Mar 18, 2016 13:43:51 GMT -5
I hope he gets more hits off of this EP, whether Pulse agrees or not. You're saying that but "Used to Love You Sober" is not even a hit yet. This is his first big song. Anyway I'd rather have that song called "Grandfather's Chair" be released as a single. It says so much more than all of his other songs. He is not gonna be around for awhile. I can tell by the way he is starting out his career. "Used To Love You Sober" is a fluff song and there's probably gonna be many more fluff songs off of the debut album. I guarantee it.
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Post by matty005 on Mar 18, 2016 15:23:24 GMT -5
I hope he gets more hits off of this EP, whether Pulse agrees or not. You're saying that but "Used to Love You Sober" is not even a hit yet. This is his first big song. Anyway I'd rather have that song called "Grandfather's Chair" be released as a single. It says so much more than all of his other songs. He is not gonna be around for awhile. I can tell by the way he is starting out his career. "Used To Love You Sober" is a fluff song and there's probably gonna be many more fluff songs off of the debut album. I guarantee it. Can you tell me who else will and wont be around for awhile? You must have a gift. Surprised record companies haven't contacted you for your services.
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Post by dm2081 on Mar 18, 2016 15:42:16 GMT -5
I hope he gets more hits off of this EP, whether Pulse agrees or not. You're saying that but "Used to Love You Sober" is not even a hit yet. This is his first big song. Anyway I'd rather have that song called "Grandfather's Chair" be released as a single. It says so much more than all of his other songs. He is not gonna be around for awhile. I can tell by the way he is starting out his career. "Used To Love You Sober" is a fluff song and there's probably gonna be many more fluff songs off of the debut album. I guarantee it. How is this a fluff song? It's about breaking up and using alcohol to burry ones pain. Fluff songs usually refer to fun up-tempos with simple lyrics. This might not be the meatiest story ever, but fluff it is not. I doubt anyone says "Hey you know what mindless fun song I want to listen to now to keep the good vibes going? That one about being in a relationship, it falls apart, and one of them starts drinking excessively to numb his pain."
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Post by T on Mar 20, 2016 2:22:47 GMT -5
Did RCA Records seriously give Jarrod Niemann & SARA EVANS the boot for this guy???????????? I will never support his music for not only that reason, but also the fact that this, to me, does not belong on country radio..Being a die-hard 15 year Sara Evans fan I have been dissaponted with RCA on so many occasions, but this is a slap in the face to Sara, Jarrod, there fans, & country music in general. To me, this cuts deeper then the music..
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Post by matty005 on Mar 20, 2016 6:11:07 GMT -5
Did RCA Records seriously give Jarrod Niemann & SARA EVANS the boot for this guy???????????? I will never support his music for not only that reason, but also the fact that this, to me, does not belong on country radio..Being a die-hard 15 year Sara Evans fan I have been dissaponted with RCA on so many occasions, but this is a slap in the face to Sara, Jarrod, there fans, & country music in general. To me, this cuts deeper then the music.. He has no control over that. I mean, you're free to to support or not support whoever you like (and don't like) but that is really a silly reason. Now what label will Jarrod be able to perform such classic country songs like, "Donkey?"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2016 7:31:03 GMT -5
What's up with the low slow depressing production lately? Between this song, "You Should Be Here", and "Came Here to Forget" I feel like I'm listening to the soundtrack of an underwater insane asylum for serial killers. It's very dreary.
What happened to the twang?
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Post by T on Mar 20, 2016 16:23:16 GMT -5
Did RCA Records seriously give Jarrod Niemann & SARA EVANS the boot for this guy???????????? I will never support his music for not only that reason, but also the fact that this, to me, does not belong on country radio..Being a die-hard 15 year Sara Evans fan I have been dissaponted with RCA on so many occasions, but this is a slap in the face to Sara, Jarrod, there fans, & country music in general. To me, this cuts deeper then the music.. He has no control over that. I mean, you're free to to support or not support whoever you like (and don't like) but that is really a silly reason. Now what label will Jarrod be able to perform such classic country songs like, "Donkey?" You are right, it is silly perhaps, But then I read this & still feel the same, must just be me :| . But I did put all of that to the side & listened to his music with my eyes closed just soaking it in, and it did nothing for me. The Curious Case of Kane Brown - WideOpenCountry
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 21, 2016 11:25:10 GMT -5
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.indulgecountry
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 21, 2016 15:55:10 GMT -5
The last two times I've listened to this I've simultaneously gotten goosebumps on my arms and begun tearing up during the first chorus and I can't even explain it but I guess I can't even try to deny anymore that this song has taken me, lol...
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Post by dm2081 on Mar 21, 2016 18:41:38 GMT -5
The last two times I've listened to this I've simultaneously gotten goosebumps on my arms and begun tearing up during the first chorus and I can't even explain it but I guess I can't even try to deny anymore that this song has taken me, lol... Feel no shame. The fact that we have a major label debut single that isn't just a backroad or wild Friday night song should be celebrated alone.
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Post by zjames on Mar 22, 2016 13:51:09 GMT -5
I really like Kane's voice, but I don't think the verses work well to suit his deep voice. The chorus sounds much better for me and allows him to show some more range. The heavy-handed production doesn't do the song any favors in my opinion. But I still enjoy the song. I don't love it, but I'd happily listen to it on the radio.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Mar 22, 2016 14:47:51 GMT -5
He has no control over that. I mean, you're free to to support or not support whoever you like (and don't like) but that is really a silly reason. Now what label will Jarrod be able to perform such classic country songs like, "Donkey?" You are right, it is silly perhaps, But then I read this & still feel the same, must just be me :| . But I did put all of that to the side & listened to his music with my eyes closed just soaking it in, and it did nothing for me. With regard to the part of the Wide Open Country article that you bolded, I think that it's worth reading the original Billboard article that the Wide Open Country author was paraphrasing. It's the Wide Open Country article author who made the inference that Jerrod Niemann and Sara Evans were two artists whose names didn't spawn much enthusiasm from label staff -- they aren't named by the Billboard article. And yes, technically I suppose one could say that Sony Nashville replaced Sara Evans and Jerrod Niemann with Maren Morris and Kane Brown, but I don't think there's a direct relationship at all. I would argue that Sara and Jerrod were going to be dropped regardless and that Sony was going to go hard after fresh talent for the roster independent of whether Sara and Jerrod were dropped. Jerrod had just seen two consecutive albums that sold pathetically and a new single that stiffed without generating much sales or streaming interest. Sara, already up against country radio's bias against women, especially women over the age of 40, hadn't strung together consecutive hits in nine years or so, and was clearly going to struggle in the current radio environment (obviously, the previous Sony leadership's handling of her most recent album didn't help). Moreover, her sales weren't strong enough on their own and she doesn't generate the critical heat that a Lee Ann Womack (for example) does. Without endorsing the harsh, often unfair realities of the business that led to the end of Sara and Jerrod's time at Sony, I think both outcomes were predictable without considering who joined the roster after their departures. As for "Used to Love You Sober," I finally got around to listening to this and my overwhelming impression is that Kane Brown is so unformed as an interpreter. His vocal approach is an odd pastiche of different country singers, and rather than interpreting the lyrics (which, in the verses, are cringe-inducingly stilted), it feels like he goes from imitating neo-traditionalist baritones (like Randy Travis, Josh Turner, etc.) on the verses to the adult contemporary power balladry of Blake Shelton and many others on the chorus. It sounds incredibly clumsy, almost as if it isn't the same singer on the two parts of the song. It's not that Kane Brown doesn't have a decent instrument -- he actually sounds pleasing on the chorus. And I know that he will generate early returns with little investment now thanks to his viral marketing. But yikes, this feels like a case where artist development is being sacrificed in the name of instant gratification. I guess the best case scenario for him and his team is that he has enough early success at radio and with sales that it buys him some time to develop more of his own vocal identity on a full-length release. The worst is that there's no time to work with him because it's all about the radio tour, recording to get an album out and then promotion, and he's unable to back up that initial burst of success because he will no longer have the benefit of viral marketing and won't have devoted any time or effort into learning how to come up with and deliver material that works on its own merits.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 22, 2016 15:51:03 GMT -5
You are right, it is silly perhaps, But then I read this & still feel the same, must just be me :| . But I did put all of that to the side & listened to his music with my eyes closed just soaking it in, and it did nothing for me. As for "Used to Love You Sober," I finally got around to listening to this and my overwhelming impression is that Kane Brown is so unformed as an interpreter. His vocal approach is an odd pastiche of different country singers, and rather than interpreting the lyrics (which, in the verses, are cringe-inducingly stilted), it feels like he goes from imitating neo-traditionalist baritones (like Randy Travis, Josh Turner, etc.) on the verses to the adult contemporary power balladry of Blake Shelton and many others on the chorus. It sounds incredibly clumsy, almost as if it isn't the same singer on the two parts of the song. It's not that Kane Brown doesn't have a decent instrument -- he actually sounds pleasing on the chorus. And I know that he will generate early returns with little investment now thanks to his viral marketing. But yikes, this feels like a case where artist development is being sacrificed in the name of instant gratification. I guess the best case scenario for him and his team is that he has enough early success at radio and with sales that it buys him some time to develop more of his own vocal identity on a full-length release. The worst is that there's no time to work with him because it's all about the radio tour, recording to get an album out and then promotion, and he's unable to back up that initial burst of success because he will no longer have the benefit of viral marketing and won't have devoted any time or effort into learning how to come up with and deliver material that works on its own merits. ^ All of this. Summed most of my thoughts up perfectly. I wasn't at all surprised Sony fast-tracked Kane Brown to radio since his debut single hitting hit big was inevitable given his unreal following and sales on iTunes/YouTube, etc. but he's going to have zero artist development now, especially if he has some early success at radio. I'll be interested how successful he is further down the road and while he can certainly find decent material to record, he's got to be a better interpreter if you ask me. It really does sound like he's two different singers from the verses to the chorus -- I've tried multiple times to give this track a chance but I get back around to my original thinking...his vocals on the verses are grating and cringe-worthy -- total non-starter on the song, which I'm not a huge fan of in the first place; the production and instrumentation are dull, generic and lifeless. Judging by his song choices I've been exposed to, I can kind of understand why his music is hitting a soft spot for the music buying consumer but I don't think I've ever been this alone on an opinion of a song in my recent memory.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2016 20:11:56 GMT -5
Alone? You aren't alone. This is an instant "time to plug in the phone" for me. Country radio has grown to be so awful that it seems common now.
This song has that horrible reverb-y dreary production that makes it a good (bad) companion to "You Should Be Here". Geez, listen to both in a row and I'm saying "dear country music, you should be here. I used to love you sober. Now you're horrible."
I also have an issue with his vocals. Someone like Josh Turner or Chris Young (even though he'd rather sing driving pop songs now) can pull off the low notes convincingly. This guy on the verses sounds like he's making fun of country music. Doing that stereotypical talk lower than you need to.
The idea of the song is interesting but the delivery falls far short.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Mar 27, 2016 15:28:20 GMT -5
Heard this for the first time yesterday... I was expecting to hate it, but I actually don't. I wouldn't say I like it, but it's certainly not horrible. I completely agree with the criticisms of his interpretive abilities, but on a technical front, you could do a lot worse, at least IMO. The rest of his material seems pretty underwhelming, but this is decent I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 16:04:59 GMT -5
I guess like it's just me, but my gosh this guys voice is like nails on a chalkboard bad for me. Honestly, for me it feels like this guy has no like emotion in his voice at all. He positively sounds bored out of his mind. That and I find the production to be boring, so boring and lifeless.
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Post by rsmatto on Mar 28, 2016 19:59:50 GMT -5
The EP will debut at #2 on the country chart tomorrow and is Top 10 all Genre. Had over 28k TEA albums and 21.9k actual downloads with over 57k track downloads.
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 18, 2016 11:27:00 GMT -5
This song will not have as quick a rise up the chart as first thought. "Used To Love You Sober" has broke even in spins and audience over the past week and lost 24 spins and 150k in audience in today's update. Kane's song has only gained 50 spins and 400k in audience over the past two weeks.
Some of these songs in the top 40 have got to give up the fight to allow songs in the 40's and that are treading water to have some room to breathe ("Nobody To Blame", "That Don't Sound Like You", "Stone Cold Sober", "Night's On Fire", "Hole In A Bottle", "High Class"). Luckily a few of them look to be about done -- Chris, Lee, Brantley and Eric.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 11:30:05 GMT -5
I was thinking over the past week or so--is the Kane Brown craze over before it even began?
I know it takes a while to break new artists (normally) but the amount of hype this bro had beforehand had me thinking it'd be getting more airplay and selling more than it is.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Apr 18, 2016 14:14:45 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm surprised this hasn't been going up faster and that the sales have leveled off. I've heard it several times on the radio already, most of them a month ago when I was still in Missouri, but I haven't heard it lately. Hopefully it'll pick back up because this one grew on me tremendously and even though I still have little interest in him as an artist, I do enjoy this song and want to see it do well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 14:34:25 GMT -5
Guys, the label isn't even promoting this yet. They haven't even given it an adds date.
This song made the top 40 and got added by more than 80 stations, all without an adds date. No new artist has ever done that before. As soon as the label gets behind this, it will blow up big time.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Apr 18, 2016 14:43:36 GMT -5
Guys, the label isn't even promoting this yet. They haven't even given it an adds date. This song made the top 40 and got added by more than 80 stations, all without an adds date. No new artist has ever done that before. As soon as the label gets behind this, it will blow up big time. I didn't even realize this hadn't been given an official add date, but you do think they'll still do that? This went to radio about 2 months ago and the first post makes it sound like it was issued under the pretense of "immediate impact." I think it'd seem a little strange for this to get an adds date clear into May, but I guess it's possible.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 14:53:13 GMT -5
Guys, the label isn't even promoting this yet. They haven't even given it an adds date. This song made the top 40 and got added by more than 80 stations, all without an adds date. No new artist has ever done that before. As soon as the label gets behind this, it will blow up big time. I didn't even realize this hadn't been given an official add date, but you do think they'll still do that? This went to radio about 2 months ago and the first post makes it sound like it was issued under the pretense of "immediate impact." I think it'd seem a little strange for this to get an adds date clear into May, but I guess it's possible. I'm still expecting an adds date. Kane didn't embark on his radio tour until right around CRS, and there was a picture of him (still on his radio tour) in Country Aircheck a week or two ago. In the picture, Kane was helping a radio PD (I believe it was at WGAR in Cleveland) add his song. The other thing I could see happening is the label treating this as a buzz single, and coming out with something else for Kane's official "launch". But I still think they'll stay with this, and I think it will really take off as soon as they actually start promoting it. Labels will sometimes say "going for immediate impact" but it doesn't really mean much, especially when it comes to new artists. Neither radio nor the label was going to get behind this song and fully promote it until Kane had completed his radio tour.
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Post by sabre14 on Apr 18, 2016 16:02:21 GMT -5
According to my source at WYRK, the label is actively promoting this. It might be more of a buzz single but it didn't get to the top 40 on its own. No add date is noted but not that meaningful in this case.
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