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Post by trustypepper on Feb 12, 2016 20:43:04 GMT -5
Organizing...?
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Post by rsmatto on Feb 12, 2016 20:46:40 GMT -5
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Post by trustypepper on Feb 12, 2016 20:50:38 GMT -5
They made it clear that some "big news" is coming soon and that every decision they make is "for the fans."
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Post by missbehaving on Feb 12, 2016 21:15:21 GMT -5
what a lame PR stunt! Making everyone wait hours and doing a periscope video just to say some dumb fluff stuff that could have been said in one tweet. "TBP is not going anywhere. Big news coming soon! We love you guys!" - this in a tweet would have been enough and this whole thing wouldn't be taken out of proportion. I'm sure they're enjoying the attention though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 21:21:59 GMT -5
So here we are (well, some of us) thinking that Borchetta is the evil stepdad treating these artists like puppets. TBP, EYB, etc. Seems like maybe he gives his artists a chance to follow the sound they want while still trying to guide the artists to their fullest potential. Whereas another label may say "no" to an experiment ala "Live Forever", knowing very well that it could lead to devastating results. It did in fact have those results but BMLG probably says "okay, now are you going to listen to us?" And when the response is "PUT ME IN THE GAME COACH!" that's when Borchetta probably says "uh, no."
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 21:27:49 GMT -5
Wow how lame. They basically just told what the super fans wanted to hear. Just like what wasted time. They are clearly doing this to build up hype for their next single (provided there still is one) and to get people talking. Besides what did their statement even say that helped us.
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Post by missbehaving on Feb 12, 2016 21:49:08 GMT -5
Wow how lame. They basically just told what the super fans wanted to hear. Just like what wasted time. They are clearly doing this to build up hype for their next single (provided there still is one) and to get people talking. Besides what did their statement even say that helped us. That for reorganizing they needed to pull the song from the internet is some of the biggest bullsh*t I've ever heard. I thought it was weird they saw the light and would just scrap this album, now it's pretty obvious that they're going forward with the "We're Gonna Be Bananas" era. Watch the big news being the second (pop) single and a release date for this mess of an album. |
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Post by missbehaving on Feb 12, 2016 21:54:59 GMT -5
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Post by missbehaving on Feb 12, 2016 21:56:54 GMT -5
Musing aloud, but I'm wondering if, if the discussion is going to move towards a general band discussion once again, then maybe it'd be worth taking up Dudley's suggestion on the previous page and moving to a general artist thread (either in Artist Discussion or in Country News & Non-Singles). In any case, I'm not sure that keeping this thread going will be the way to go. Since no one else will do it... pulsemusic.proboards.com/thread/156393/band-perry-heart-beat-eraif any mod wants to move the posts in this thread to the new one, be my guest! |
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Post by tryexp on Feb 13, 2016 8:12:55 GMT -5
I will admit I thought this "new direction" was Borchetta's idea, and they would back-pedal when it failed to work, but honestly it seems like I was wrong on both accounts.
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Post by missbehaving on Feb 13, 2016 17:45:41 GMT -5
I will admit I thought this "new direction" was Borchetta's idea, and they would back-pedal when it failed to work, but honestly it seems like I was wrong on both accounts. Yes, Borchetta probably just wants them to go back to what made them successful, I really doubt he supports something that he knows is going to fail and cost his label money. There's no way people at Big Machine haven't realized the disaster that this album is going to be, it's The Band Perry that want this and are staying delusional about it. Heck, their team was deleting comments on Facebook from people telling them to do country music, they even blocked those people from having access to the account. They're not going to back-pedal on this and it's just a trainwreck. I just don't know why they don't admit they want to pop and leave country music. They're playing safe, but it's obvious they're not interested in making a country album. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 21:52:52 GMT -5
I will admit I thought this "new direction" was Borchetta's idea, and they would back-pedal when it failed to work, but honestly it seems like I was wrong on both accounts. Yes, Borchetta probably just wants them to go back to what made them successful, I really doubt he supports something that he knows is going to fail and cost his label money. There's no way people at Big Machine haven't realized the disaster that this album is going to be, it's The Band Perry that want this and are staying delusional about it. Heck, their team was deleting comments on Facebook from people telling them to do country music, they even blocked those people from having access to the account. They're not going to back-pedal on this and it's just a trainwreck. I just don't know why they don't admit they want to pop and leave country music. They're playing safe, but it's obvious they're not interested in making a country album. Wow that's really immature take some freaking criticism. Fans are just looking for the best for them and their acting like total brats! I hope they career goes down the drain. They've earned it. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 23:32:31 GMT -5
I will admit I thought this "new direction" was Borchetta's idea, and they would back-pedal when it failed to work, but honestly it seems like I was wrong on both accounts. I, too, assumed this new direction was Borchetta's idea; I was actually shocked to learn it was all on them. IMO, the writing is already on the wall with this new direction based on "Live Forever" "Put Me In The Game Coach," etc. If TBP truly believes Country fans will eventually come around to this new direction, they're in for an extremely rude awakening. A few of these new songs are among some of the worst I've ever heard in my tenure as a Country fan, and that's saying something.  |
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Post by tryexp on Feb 14, 2016 8:49:20 GMT -5
I will admit I thought this "new direction" was Borchetta's idea, and they would back-pedal when it failed to work, but honestly it seems like I was wrong on both accounts. I, too, assumed this new direction was Borchetta's idea; I was actually shocked to learn it was all on them. IMO, the writing is already on the wall with this new direction based on "Live Forever" "Put Me In The Game Coach," etc. If TBP truly believes Country fans will eventually come around to this new direction, they're in for an extremely rude awakening. A few of these new songs are among some of the worst I've ever heard in my tenure as a Country fan, and that's saying something. Put Me In The Game Coach is a terrible pop song, but the rest of them aren't much better. The only one I'd consider as a bonus track is the Best One Yet and even then I still think it's a weak pop song. I know they cut two songs written by others but who knows if they will make the final tracklist. But, if they are not going to back-pedal I hope the CD comes out soon, so this mess is over by the end of the summer. |
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 14, 2016 16:00:40 GMT -5
Can we expect a greatest hits CD from The Band Perry this year?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 16:03:21 GMT -5
Can we expect a greatest hits CD from The Band Perry this year? At this point I don't know what to expect from the yellow "pop-tarts". (Yes I went there, not sorry) |
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 14, 2016 16:07:06 GMT -5
Can we expect a greatest hits CD from The Band Perry this year? At this point I don't know what to expect from the yellow "pop-tarts". (Yes I went there, not sorry) I'm wondering if another label will take a chance on them. Does anyone know if it was The Band Perry's idea to record Live Forever or even Scott Borchetta's decision? Thanks in advance. It seems to me that with a career full of promise that the sibling trio is going in this direction. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 16:19:50 GMT -5
At this point I don't know what to expect from the yellow "pop-tarts". (Yes I went there, not sorry) I'm wondering if another label will take a chance on them. Does anyone know if it was The Band Perry's idea to record Live Forever or even Scott Borchetta's decision? Thanks in advance. It seems to me that with a career full of promise that the sibling trio is going in this direction. I think it was initially Borchetta's idea like to record "Live Forever" and that. But I think once that and like "Friend Zone" by Danielle Bradbery came out and EYB disastrous collaboration with Andy Grammar and people noticing they were all from Big Machine lead to at least for Danielle and Eli Young Band to back out. However The Band Perry seems like they haven't, and I think the video of "Put Me In The Game Coach" kind of confirmed they were still going in that direction. When "Live Forever" was taken down and then showed up exclusively to The Band Perry it showed they were committed to this "pop tarts" sound and I think Big Machine wanted out of it. The Band Perry should easily get signed if they were dropped but their careers are more than likely done. |
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 14, 2016 16:24:39 GMT -5
I'm wondering if another label will take a chance on them. Does anyone know if it was The Band Perry's idea to record Live Forever or even Scott Borchetta's decision? Thanks in advance. It seems to me that with a career full of promise that the sibling trio is going in this direction. I think it was initially Borchetta's idea like to record "Live Forever" and that. But I think once that and like "Friend Zone" by Danielle Bradbery came out and EYB disastrous collaboration with Andy Grammar and people noticing they were all from Big Machine lead to at least for Danielle and Eli Young Band to back out. However The Band Perry seems like they haven't, and I think the video of "Put Me In The Game Coach" kind of confirmed they were still going in that direction. When "Live Forever" was taken down and then showed up exclusively to The Band Perry it showed they were committed to this "pop tarts" sound and I think Big Machine wanted out of it. The Band Perry should easily get signed if they were dropped but their careers are more than likely done. That's sad. We just passed the fifth anniversary of their first #1, If I Die Young being a chart topper. They certainly could have had a ton more hits during their second five year stretch in the business. |
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Post by stanches2318 on Feb 14, 2016 17:51:39 GMT -5
I think it was initially Borchetta's idea like to record "Live Forever" and that. But I think once that and like "Friend Zone" by Danielle Bradbery came out and EYB disastrous collaboration with Andy Grammar and people noticing they were all from Big Machine lead to at least for Danielle and Eli Young Band to back out. However The Band Perry seems like they haven't, and I think the video of "Put Me In The Game Coach" kind of confirmed they were still going in that direction. When "Live Forever" was taken down and then showed up exclusively to The Band Perry it showed they were committed to this "pop tarts" sound and I think Big Machine wanted out of it. The Band Perry should easily get signed if they were dropped but their careers are more than likely done. That's sad. We just passed the fifth anniversary of their first #1, If I Die Young being a chart topper. They certainly could have had a ton more hits during their second five year stretch in the business. I actually like "Live Forever". It's a good song to dance to and sing to. I know it isn't a country song, but how many songs today in Country are "Country". I think that The Band Perry released this song on there own, because they wanted to have fun, and that's what this song is is a fun song. Same as "Friend Zone" By Bradbery. She released the song so she could have fun. You don't always have to have a meaningful song or a song that is just like the rest of the genre. I rather hear these 2 songs. Than hear the majority of the songs I hear on Country radio that involve drinking, Living in the country, or driving etc. Plus I like Band Perry's new look, Kimberly is looking her best and the way she dresses in that video is better. I like there early stuff, but I don't think they were enjoying themselves with that sound. :) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 18:03:11 GMT -5
That's sad. We just passed the fifth anniversary of their first #1, If I Die Young being a chart topper. They certainly could have had a ton more hits during their second five year stretch in the business. I actually like "Live Forever". It's a good song to dance to and sing to. I know it isn't a country song, but how many songs today in Country are "Country". I that The Band Perry released this song on there own, because they wanted to have fun, and that's what this song is is a fun song. Same a "Friend Zone" By Bradbery. She released the song so she can have fun. You don't always have a meaningful song or a song that is just like the rest of the genre. I rather hear these 2 songs. Than hear the majority of the songs I hear on Country radio that involve drinking, Living in the country, or driving etc. Plus I like Band Perry's new look, Kimberly is looking her best and the way she dresses in that video is better. I like there early stuff, but I don't think they were enjoying themselves with that sound. :) Well off the top of my head on songs currently charting let's see Tennessee Whiskey, Mayday, Beautiful Stranger, It Don't Hurt It Like It Used To, When I'm Gone, Record Year, The Driver, Whiskey On My Breath, From The Ground Up, Unlove You, Loving Lately, Livin The Dream, Crazy Over Me, I Met A Girl, You Look Like I Need A Drink, Humble and Kind, It All Started With A Beer, Head Over Boots, Shut Up & Fish, Nobody To Blame, My Church and those are just songs today. Now your other point. You can have fun in country agreed look at for Danielle "Young In America" and for The Band Perry try the album track "Quitting You". They both sound country in sound and fun and both from those artists. I believe Danielle will go back to her debut song given Friends Zone controversy. The Band Perry I just don't know anymore with them. |
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Feb 14, 2016 18:10:25 GMT -5
Just popping in to add this link to discussion that took place in mid-January 2016 (in the Country News & Non-Singles Discussion thread) on The Band Perry's new direction as reflected by "Put Me in the Game, Coach." Bringing those posts over here would mean that they led off the thread, but I think that the current first post makes more sense as an introductory OP. Beyond that, I think that what has happened to The Band Perry is a considerably bigger loss to the country genre than Taylor Swift's departure from the market, mostly because the style that seemed to come most naturally to The Band Perry is a blend of country, folk and pop whereas Taylor's natural fit was always pop. Even on their sophomore album, I think The Band Perry's strongest material was not on the all-out rockers (though I did like the quirk of "Forever Mine Nevermind") but on songs like "O Pioneer" and, of course, their last big hit, "Better Dig Two." As dire as the new pop music is so far (by any standard, not just that of The Band Perry's potential to make excellent music), I hope that this career derailment doesn't do The Band Perry in for good. While I haven't been impressed by the way that they have handled the criticism of and disappointment over their current music, perhaps rebuilding without the support of a well-resourced big label will prove a learning and character-building experience for them, and maybe even fodder for some self-reflective music down the road. In the meantime, they seem to have received a pretty good response to their cover of "Endless Love" at last night's MusiCares Person of the Year gala saluting Lionel Richie. Here's what the Mikael Wood of the L.A. Times had to say of their performance in a review that was far from complimentary to other performances: And here is the take from Leah Greenblatt of Entertainment Weekly: The talent is there. Here's hoping that The Band Perry finds its way. |
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Post by stanches2318 on Feb 14, 2016 18:13:10 GMT -5
I actually like "Live Forever". It's a good song to dance to and sing to. I know it isn't a country song, but how many songs today in Country are "Country". I that The Band Perry released this song on there own, because they wanted to have fun, and that's what this song is is a fun song. Same a "Friend Zone" By Bradbery. She released the song so she can have fun. You don't always have a meaningful song or a song that is just like the rest of the genre. I rather hear these 2 songs. Than hear the majority of the songs I hear on Country radio that involve drinking, Living in the country, or driving etc. Plus I like Band Perry's new look, Kimberly is looking her best and the way she dresses in that video is better. I like there early stuff, but I don't think they were enjoying themselves with that sound. :) Well off the top of my head on songs currently charting let's see Tennessee Whiskey, Mayday, Beautiful Stranger, It Don't Hurt It Like It Used To, When I'm Gone, Record Year, The Driver, Whiskey On My Breath, From The Ground Up, Unlove You, Loving Lately, Livin The Dream, Crazy Over Me, I Met A Girl, You Look Like I Need A Drink, Humble and Kind, It All Started With A Beer, Head Over Boots, Shut Up & Fish, Nobody To Blame, My Church and those are just songs today. Now your other point. You can have fun in country agreed look at for Danielle "Young In America" and for The Band Perry try the album track "Quitting You". They both sound country in sound and fun and both from those artists. I believe Danielle will go back to her debut song given Friends Zone controversy. The Band Perry I just don't know anymore with them. I only knew maybe some of the songs u mentioned: Driver, Tennessee Whiskey and Shut Up And Fish, Head Over Boots. I can't stand My Church. The rest of them I cant recognize by title. I hope Bradbery doesn't go to her first album sound, cuz Heart Of Dixie is boring. I liked Young In America, Dance Hall, And Daughter of A Working Man. That's it. |
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Post by missbehaving on Feb 14, 2016 18:18:44 GMT -5
Problem here is that TBP are making a full album of "fun songs"... the fun part being based of generic music, basic lyrics and repetitive words. I guess one could drink enough beer to enjoy a song like Put Me In The Game Coach, but that won't make it a good song or anything worthy of being performed and written by a band like TBP. If what they want is to just have fun, then they should release the album on their own. Don't waste the label's resources because those could be used to support artists that are actually interested in making quality music and to whom music is more than just having fun. Edit: their shazam shows that they're HUGE country fans! www.shazam.com/artist/40785602/the-band-perry  |
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Post by countrygirl918 on Feb 15, 2016 14:12:09 GMT -5
While I haven't been impressed by the way that they have handled the criticism of and disappointment over their current music, perhaps rebuilding without the support of a well-resourced big label will prove a learning and character-building experience for them, and maybe even fodder for some self-reflective music down the road. I really hope you're right. To me, this is one of the most disappointing aspects of their new musical direction. Of course, the music itself is the worst part, but their reaction to criticism is what has made me lose the most respect for them. I used to be a fan, and I'm incredibly disappointed in the new music. If I said that on any of their social media, they'd delete my comments and block me. That's not a mature way to react to constructive criticism. I criticize because I think they had a lot of potential, I feel like they are wasting their talents, and I think they could be making music that is so much better. I'm not criticizing simply because I'm a "hater". This is what happens when you surround yourself with "yes" people. Any sort of criticism, even if it's constructive and well-intentioned, is immediately brushed off as "hate". That kind of defensiveness speaks volumes about them to me. |
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Post by stanches2318 on Feb 15, 2016 15:05:13 GMT -5
While I haven't been impressed by the way that they have handled the criticism of and disappointment over their current music, perhaps rebuilding without the support of a well-resourced big label will prove a learning and character-building experience for them, and maybe even fodder for some self-reflective music down the road. I really hope you're right. To me, this is one of the most disappointing aspects of their new musical direction. Of course, the music itself is the worst part, but their reaction to criticism is what has made me lose the most respect for them. I used to be a fan, and I'm incredibly disappointed in the new music. If I said that on any of their social media, they'd delete my comments and block me. That's not a mature way to react to constructive criticism. I criticize because I think they had a lot of potential, I feel like they are wasting their talents, and I think they could be making music that is so much better. I'm not criticizing simply because I'm a "hater". This is what happens when you surround yourself with "yes" people. Any sort of criticism, even if it's constructive and well-intentioned, is immediately brushed off as "hate". That kind of defensiveness speaks volumes about them to me. I Agree with you to a certain point. I just think that people in general seem to put criticism on certain artists instead of other artists. I say let the artist make the music they want to make. I think there are bigger stars, that get less criticism, and less popular ones are the ones that people in general seem to judge. I don't understand why? |
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Post by missbehaving on Feb 15, 2016 17:05:56 GMT -5
I really hope you're right. To me, this is one of the most disappointing aspects of their new musical direction. Of course, the music itself is the worst part, but their reaction to criticism is what has made me lose the most respect for them. I used to be a fan, and I'm incredibly disappointed in the new music. If I said that on any of their social media, they'd delete my comments and block me. That's not a mature way to react to constructive criticism. I criticize because I think they had a lot of potential, I feel like they are wasting their talents, and I think they could be making music that is so much better. I'm not criticizing simply because I'm a "hater". This is what happens when you surround yourself with "yes" people. Any sort of criticism, even if it's constructive and well-intentioned, is immediately brushed off as "hate". That kind of defensiveness speaks volumes about them to me. I Agree with you to a certain point. I just think that people in general seem to put criticism on certain artists instead of other artists. I say let the artist make the music they want to make. I think there are bigger stars, that get less criticism, and less popular ones are the ones that people in general seem to judge. I don't understand why? Do you mean critics? When it comes to the general public, any star, big or not, is a going to get criticism. People are free to judge whoever they want, even more online where people don't have to face the celebrities. You say you don't see bigger stars being criticized, I think you must be talking about critics or just not looking for the general criticism from online users. I don't know how the world of music critics works, but there might be politics behind the reason why a bigger artist making bad music is not as criticized as a smaller artist. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 17:44:16 GMT -5
I don't see the criticism unwarranted at all. I think at least for me I'll be unbiased torwards any artist, I judge on lyrics, production, vocals, instrumentation and other factors but if like Alan Jackson, Reba or like Martina McBride had songs like "Put Me In The Game Coach" I will be just as critical.
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