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Post by myeverything on Jul 3, 2016 11:47:13 GMT -5
What ever happened to y'all WANTING labels to play games and not have the "every man gets one week at the top" kind of deal? Now that happens and people are still questioning it, lol I just don't understand. Hasn't Keith and Jason had a very similar chart run the whole way? If I remember correctly, they came out at the same time and Jason followed Keith all the way up the chart until the end, where out of nowhere leapfrogged Keith and then that's when Cap fought back? Frankly, I'm a huge fan of both artists here but we all know how happy I'm going to be for Keith. As far as the "Luke should have gotten two weeks instead..." Boohoo, lol seriously. Luke dominates in most other areas these days (steaming, sales, getting multi-week #1's, etc) so why can't Keith win this one for once? They both got the #1 anyways and Keith doesn't get multiple weeks at the top much anymore these days. I think this has been one of his biggest hits in a while. 20th #1, a big hit in the live shows, and just an overall satisfaction for it at radio. What's so wrong with that?! (Not so) patiently waiting for Tuesday night for the BB results.. really hoping they got this.. Either way though, BIG congrats to Keith and Cap on this one.. can't wait to see what they decide to go with for the next single. Ripcord is doing big things for him and couldn't be happier.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2016 16:37:39 GMT -5
I think the reason why people were shocked that Luke Bryan didn't get two weeks at #1 while Keith did was the simple fact that Luke's song was a much bigger hit. If you look at current peak positions on the Mongrel Chart, Luke has a peak of #2, while Keith has a peak of #7. Another example is Luke Bryans at a Hot 100 peak of #37 while Keith Urban is at #57, which is a sign that "Wasted Time" will be one of the lesser hits of 2016 (along with "Dibs" "Mind Reader" "Confession" "I Like The Sound Of That" "We Went" and "Break On Me"). I give Capitol a lot of credit for keeping this afloat for a second week and nabbing another #1, but I think Luke deserved it more for being a bigger hit (undeniable as I think Luke's song had more of a streaming prescence than Keith's) , but good for Keith. I'm not complaining, just shocked that this got another week.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Jul 4, 2016 6:34:32 GMT -5
I see this falling like a rock after today, it's a good song but surprised it made it two weeks on the top. All in all, a good result for Keith and Capitol
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Post by Marv on Jul 4, 2016 16:08:46 GMT -5
I'm delighted that he snagged a second week @ #1 with this rousing number from a phenomenal CD.
I believe Bob Kingsley stated that this is his 21st charttopper, so congratulations are also in order for that achievement for someone as steadily consistent as he's been for some fifteen years!
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 4, 2016 16:16:56 GMT -5
I believe Bob Kingsley stated that this is his 21st charttopper, so congratulations are also in order for that achievement for someone as steadily consistent as he's been for some fifteen years! Yep, 21 total singles to hit #1 on Mediabase. Keith's had 19 songs as a solo artist to hit #1 but its 21 because of his inclusions on "Start A Band" and "Highway Don't Care."
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Post by justme60 on Jul 4, 2016 21:33:11 GMT -5
I think the reason why people were shocked that Luke Bryan didn't get two weeks at #1 while Keith did was the simple fact that Luke's song was a much bigger hit. If you look at current peak positions on the Mongrel Chart, Luke has a peak of #2, while Keith has a peak of #7. Another example is Luke Bryans at a Hot 100 peak of #37 while Keith Urban is at #57, which is a sign that "Wasted Time" will be one of the lesser hits of 2016 (along with "Dibs" "Mind Reader" "Confession" "I Like The Sound Of That" "We Went" and "Break On Me"). I give Capitol a lot of credit for keeping this afloat for a second week and nabbing another #1, but I think Luke deserved it more for being a bigger hit (undeniable as I think Luke's song had more of a streaming prescence than Keith's) , but good for Keith. I'm not complaining, just shocked that this got another week. Geez, how many times are you going to state this in one thread?? We all get that you don't really care for Keith or his new album, but dang every other post, you say this. You may think Luke's song is better and a bigger hit, but I don't, and many others agree regardless of all the statistics you post over and over. It's not going to ruin the charts or Luke Bryan for Keith to have a song hit #1. Keith is an outstanding artist and has stood the test of time. Luke is just the "it" artist right now, but the way artist are coming and going so fast these days, Luke could crash and burn as quick as he came on the scene. Time will tell! I'm a Keith fan and he deserves his success just as much as any other artist! I think it's a testament to his talents that he came from another country and made such a great name and a lot of respect in the country music industry. Congrats to Keith on his success.
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Post by nick64 on Jul 5, 2016 0:54:51 GMT -5
I think the reason why people were shocked that Luke Bryan didn't get two weeks at #1 while Keith did was the simple fact that Luke's song was a much bigger hit. If you look at current peak positions on the Mongrel Chart, Luke has a peak of #2, while Keith has a peak of #7. Another example is Luke Bryans at a Hot 100 peak of #37 while Keith Urban is at #57, which is a sign that "Wasted Time" will be one of the lesser hits of 2016 (along with "Dibs" "Mind Reader" "Confession" "I Like The Sound Of That" "We Went" and "Break On Me"). I give Capitol a lot of credit for keeping this afloat for a second week and nabbing another #1, but I think Luke deserved it more for being a bigger hit (undeniable as I think Luke's song had more of a streaming prescence than Keith's) , but good for Keith. I'm not complaining, just shocked that this got another week. Geez, how many times are you going to state this in one thread?? We all get that you don't really care for Keith or his new album, but dang every other post, you say this. You may think Luke's song is better and a bigger hit, but I don't, and many others agree regardless of all the statistics you post over and over. It's not going to ruin the charts or Luke Bryan for Keith to have a song hit #1. Keith is an outstanding artist and has stood the test of time. Luke is just the "it" artist right now, but the way artist are coming and going so fast these days, Luke could crash and burn as quick as he came on the scene. Time will tell! I'm a Keith fan and he deserves his success just as much as any other artist! I think it's a testament to his talents that he came from another country and made such a great name and a lot of respect in the country music industry. Congrats to Keith on his success. Except that he said nothing about his opinion of the song in that post. I personally like "Wasted Time" A LOT more than "Huntin'" (I find the latter dull), but there's no denying that Luke's song was the bigger hit, regardless of your opinion of the songs. I don't think very many people agree with you that Keith's song is the bigger hit, BECAUSE of all those statistics that prove otherwise. He also literally said "I'm not complaining" and didn't say anything negative about Keith in the slightest, so the entire second half of your post is over dramatic and unnecessary.
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Post by myeverything on Jul 5, 2016 17:43:13 GMT -5
BUT isn't Luke's song "bigger" simply because of the sales/streaming numbers that Keith (being an "older" artist) will never have? We've had this discussion a time or two as well.... justme60 , you KNOW I'm on the same page as you... preach!!!
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Post by justme60 on Jul 5, 2016 19:30:46 GMT -5
Well roadrunner, say what you like, but I don't have the time to go back and hunt all raylatch's post, but in many post he's/she's stated his/her distaste for the album and all the songs on it. Every chance he/she gets, there's a dig at Keith and his music.
According to him/her, all songs are bigger hits than Keith's.
However, he/she can say whatever he/she wants, because Keith's fans know different!
According to Bob Kingsley, Keith Urban is the most beloved and respected artist in the country genre! Now that comment means more to Keith's fans than anything some commenter says.
He might not get the second week and he might not ever get another #1 hit, but he has had an amazing career in country music and will be remembered a long time for it.
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 5, 2016 19:36:10 GMT -5
We should get back to discussing "Wasted Time" and not posters post history or prerogative, please.
Also, "Wasted Time" was #1 for a second week on Mediabase. :kii:
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 5, 2016 19:59:09 GMT -5
"Wasted Time" gets a second week on Billboard Airplay as well. Bested Jason by 452k in total audience.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Jul 5, 2016 23:45:02 GMT -5
What the heck does "And the days got sold to the grid and the game" mean? That's how it's written in the lyric book.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 10:09:51 GMT -5
I believe Bob Kingsley stated that this is his 21st charttopper, so congratulations are also in order for that achievement for someone as steadily consistent as he's been for some fifteen years! Yep, 21 total singles to hit #1 on Mediabase. Keith's had 19 songs as a solo artist to hit #1 but its 21 because of his inclusions on "Start A Band" and "Highway Don't Care." I don't think this is correct. If Mediabase and Bob Kingsley were counting "Highway Don't Care", then Keith would have 22 Mediabase #1's. The reason he has one more MB #1 than BB #1 is because of "John Cougar, John Deere, John 3:16" being a Mediabase-only #1. These are Keith's 20 chart-toppers on Billboard: 01 But For The Grace Of God 02 Somebody Like You (6 weeks at the top) 03 Who Wouldn't Wanna Be Me 04 You'll Think Of Me (2 weeks) 05 Days Go By (4 weeks) 06 Making Memories Of Us (5 weeks) 07 Better Life (6 weeks) 08 You Look Good In My Shirt 09 Start A Band 10 Sweet Thing (2 weeks) 11 Only You Can Love Me This Way 12 Without You 13 Long Hot Summer 14 You Gonna Fly (2 weeks) 15 Little Bit Of Everything (2 weeks) 16 We Were Us 17 Somewhere In My Car (2 weeks) 18 Raise 'Em Up 19 Break On Me 20 Wasted Time (2 weeks) Unless I'm mistaken, prior to "John Cougar, John Deere, John 3:16", all of Keith's #1 hits were #1's on both MB and BB. So, there you have it -- that's 20 #1's on Billboard, and "triple John" makes it 21 on MB. I think the reason why people were shocked that Luke Bryan didn't get two weeks at #1 while Keith did was the simple fact that Luke's song was a much bigger hit. If you look at current peak positions on the Mongrel Chart, Luke has a peak of #2, while Keith has a peak of #7. Another example is Luke Bryans at a Hot 100 peak of #37 while Keith Urban is at #57, which is a sign that "Wasted Time" will be one of the lesser hits of 2016 (along with "Dibs" "Mind Reader" "Confession" "I Like The Sound Of That" "We Went" and "Break On Me"). I give Capitol a lot of credit for keeping this afloat for a second week and nabbing another #1, but I think Luke deserved it more for being a bigger hit (undeniable as I think Luke's song had more of a streaming prescence than Keith's) , but good for Keith. I'm not complaining, just shocked that this got another week. I agree that Luke's song was the bigger hit -- streaming and sales figures are all we need to look at to know this -- but I certainly don't feel that "Wasted Time" was a lesser hit like most of those songs you listed there (most of which were from artists less popular than Keith, who needed long chart runs and/or ridiculous pushes to reach a manufactured #1 peak. That was not the case with "Wasted Time"). "Wasted Time" has now reached #4 on Hot Country Songs and #51 on the Hot 100, and part of the reason that it peaked just a little lower on the Hot 100 than some other country radio hits is because "Wasted Time" screamed to #1 in 13 weeks. That's a big hit any way you slice it. Anyway, this song's Hot 100 peak (which will probably be #51) is comparable to the Hot 100 peaks of a lot of Keith's other recent hits. 'Til Summer Comes Around - 58 I'm In - 60 Put You In A Song - 53 Without You - 52 Long Hot Summer - 45 You Gonna Fly - 54 For You - 55 Somewhere In My Car - 49 Raise 'Em Up - 56 Break On Me - 54 The first 3 Fuse singles peaked higher -- "Little Bit Of Everything" (33) because it was the lead single, "We Were Us" (26) because it was a duet with Miranda and because it was the 2nd single, and "Cop Car" (41) because it had exceptionally high sales for a Keith Urban single ("We Were Us" and "Cop Car" are Keith's only two Platinum singles). "John Cougar, John Deere, John 3:16" also peaked a bit higher (40), mostly because it was the lead single to Ripcord. But otherwise Keith's big radio hits have generally peaked in the 45-55 range on the Hot 100 for the last 6 or 7 years now, and "Wasted Time" is no exception. Was it the biggest hit of the year? No, but it was solid hit that hit the sweet spot for radio programmers.
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 6, 2016 10:44:45 GMT -5
Yep, 21 total singles to hit #1 on Mediabase. Keith's had 19 songs as a solo artist to hit #1 but its 21 because of his inclusions on "Start A Band" and "Highway Don't Care." I don't think this is correct. If Mediabase and Bob Kingsley were counting "Highway Don't Care", then Keith would have 22 Mediabase #1's. The reason he has one more MB #1 than BB #1 is because of "John Cougar, John Deere, John 3:16" being a Mediabase-only #1. These are Keith's 20 chart-toppers on Billboard: 01 But For The Grace Of God 02 Somebody Like You (6 weeks at the top) 03 Who Wouldn't Wanna Be Me 04 You'll Think Of Me (2 weeks) 05 Days Go By (4 weeks) 06 Making Memories Of Us (5 weeks) 07 Better Life (6 weeks) 08 You Look Good In My Shirt 09 Start A Band 10 Sweet Thing (2 weeks) 11 Only You Can Love Me This Way 12 Without You 13 Long Hot Summer 14 You Gonna Fly (2 weeks) 15 Little Bit Of Everything (2 weeks) 16 We Were Us 17 Somewhere In My Car (2 weeks) 18 Raise 'Em Up 19 Break On Me 20 Wasted Time (2 weeks) Unless I'm mistaken, prior to "John Cougar, John Deere, John 3:16", all of Keith's #1 hits were #1's on both MB and BB. So, there you have it -- that's 20 #1's on Billboard, and "triple John" makes it 21 on MB. I think the reason why people were shocked that Luke Bryan didn't get two weeks at #1 while Keith did was the simple fact that Luke's song was a much bigger hit. If you look at current peak positions on the Mongrel Chart, Luke has a peak of #2, while Keith has a peak of #7. Another example is Luke Bryans at a Hot 100 peak of #37 while Keith Urban is at #57, which is a sign that "Wasted Time" will be one of the lesser hits of 2016 (along with "Dibs" "Mind Reader" "Confession" "I Like The Sound Of That" "We Went" and "Break On Me"). I give Capitol a lot of credit for keeping this afloat for a second week and nabbing another #1, but I think Luke deserved it more for being a bigger hit (undeniable as I think Luke's song had more of a streaming prescence than Keith's) , but good for Keith. I'm not complaining, just shocked that this got another week. I agree that Luke's song was the bigger hit -- streaming and sales figures are all we need to look at to know this -- but I certainly don't feel that "Wasted Time" was a lesser hit like most of those songs you listed there (most of which were from artists less popular than Keith, who needed long chart runs and/or ridiculous pushes to reach a manufactured #1 peak. That was not the case with "Wasted Time"). "Wasted Time" has now reached #4 on Hot Country Songs and #51 on the Hot 100, and part of the reason that it peaked just a little lower on the Hot 100 than some other country radio hits is because "Wasted Time" screamed to #1 in 13 weeks. That's a big hit any way you slice it. Anyway, this song's Hot 100 peak (which will probably be #51) is comparable to the Hot 100 peaks of a lot of Keith's other recent hits. 'Til Summer Comes Around - 58 I'm In - 60 Put You In A Song - 53 Without You - 52 Long Hot Summer - 45 You Gonna Fly - 54 For You - 55 Somewhere In My Car - 49 Raise 'Em Up - 56 Break On Me - 54 The first 3 Fuse singles peaked higher -- "Little Bit Of Everything" (33) because it was the lead single, "We Were Us" (26) because it was a duet with Miranda and because it was the 2nd single, and "Cop Car" (41) because it had exceptionally high sales for a Keith Urban single ("We Were Us" and "Cop Car" are Keith's only two Platinum singles). "John Cougar, John Deere, John 3:16" also peaked a bit higher (40), mostly because it was the lead single to Ripcord. But otherwise Keith's big radio hits have generally peaked in the 45-55 range on the Hot 100 for the last 6 or 7 years now, and "Wasted Time" is no exception. Was it the biggest hit of the year? No, but it was solid hit that hit the sweet spot for radio programmers. I missed "Little Bit Of Everything". I scanned down the "Hot Country Songs" and didn't switch over to scanning airplay until I passed it. Oops. Out of Keith's six #2 Mediabase singles, five hit #2 on Billboard as well. Only one that didn't was "Stupid Boy", which hit #3 on Billboard.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 10:50:22 GMT -5
True jhomes87 about Keith. I will say that Keith song was a decent sized hit (I think the reason it went up so quickly was being a combination of radio friendliness, iHeartMedia debut, and feeling like the lead off single for Ripcord since the announcement was around the time this song was released) but the sales and streams are proof that "Wasted Time" was a middle of the road sized hit, not too big not too small, just a mid level sized #1. I do feel like Luke Bryans song was more deserving of #1 for 2 weeks, but good for Keith Urban for changing up the norm at country radio, nice to see a song regardless go for 2 weeks and succeed.
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Post by someguy on Jul 6, 2016 22:53:53 GMT -5
What the heck does "And the days got sold to the grid and the game" mean? That's how it's written in the lyric book. I take it to mean that he can't waste his time any more. Instead of doing what he wants he has "sold his days" (exchanged his time for money) by getting a job and growing up to have responsibilities ("the grid and the game"). That's my interpretation, at least.
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Post by myeverything on Jul 7, 2016 10:22:29 GMT -5
I still can't get enough of this song and I am SO happy that it got TWO weeks at the top!! It's about dang time. Once again, congrats to Keith and Capitol.. It sure was a closer race than expected but they came out on top... Can't wait to see what's next in store for Keith and Ripcord!!
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Post by bksouthga on Jul 7, 2016 22:30:29 GMT -5
What the heck does "And the days got sold to the grid and the game" mean? That's how it's written in the lyric book. I take it to mean that he can't waste his time any more. Instead of doing what he wants he has "sold his days" (exchanged his time for money) by getting a job and growing up to have responsibilities ("the grid and the game"). That's my interpretation, at least. I picture this like when people do a "grid" for the super bowl where you have 10x10 squares with the digits of the final score and people buy squares on the grid. Think about having a calendar page and days on that calendar getting "bought" by things like jobs, family, church, whatever, just like a super bowl grid.
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