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Post by maddkat on Mar 19, 2016 8:34:13 GMT -5
I do like Church Bells a lot and don't mind it as the next single, but I don't think it's about love at all. More both parties wanting something from the other - he a trophy wife and she the money & status.She just didn't count of him being a mean drunk.
I don't see Carrie getting pigeoned holed as someone who just sings about murder.This is only the third & the last murder song was 5 songs ago.
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Post by matty005 on Mar 19, 2016 9:13:31 GMT -5
I do like Church Bells a lot and don't mind it as the next single, but I don't think it's about love at all. More both parties wanting something from the other - he a trophy wife and she the money & status.She just didn't count of him being a mean drunk. I don't see Carrie getting pigeoned holed as someone who just sings about murder. This is only the third & the last murder song was 5 songs ago. "Only the third." Most artists have 0. So, while, yes, a majority of her songs are not murder songs, she by far has the most murder songs ratio as an artist right now.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Mar 19, 2016 9:26:55 GMT -5
Well, if this is the third single, I'm happy with it. I was hoping for "Dirty Laundry", but this is one of the three that I was hoping for, so I'm cool with it. I hope, still, that "Dirty Laundry" gets a release as well - could make for a huge hit!
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Post by Ragin on Mar 19, 2016 9:59:21 GMT -5
I like it quite a bit. Of course it would be better if it were more classic country but that just isn't where country is at. The whole refrain sound is not really country either. No matter, I like this one.
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Post by phil1996 on Mar 19, 2016 10:03:59 GMT -5
This kinda just strikes me as an album track. Just nothing that grabs me, pretty boring.
I look at the A-listers of country today, and just marvel at how consistently boring/unoriginal/bad their singles have been for the past couple years. Been a while since I've heard a truly great song on radio from Carrie, Luke, FGL, Blake, or Aldean, the "stars" of the genre. Sucks how they can just fly up the charts with boring stuff, but artists like Kip Moore/Gary Allan/Kacey Musgraves/Brandy Clark can't do a thing on the charts with consistently superb offerings.
***Also, before I get ripped to shreds by the Carrie lovers, let it be known that I think she's a tremendous talent. Just a Dream is one of my all time favorites, and I enjoyed about everything through her first couple of albums.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 11:31:29 GMT -5
:rolls eyes: Carrie. Do not become a niche artist. Do not become Martina McBride. Do. Not. Do. It. Release edgier songs. "Dirty Laundry", 'Choctaw', and "Relapse" are intriguing and will pull listeners in. "Church Bells" is good, but there's nothing special about it at all -- at least, not in the same way as those 3, which would make for way, way, way better Country radio releases. "Two Black Cadillacs" did the murder drama better. But this song is about love, devolving into abuse, and ultimately leading to murder... Not to mention it is a story song. And the production is very unique. This song will stick out like a sore thumb among the pile of male party songs that dominate country radio. If that is not the definition of edgy, then what is? Constantly expecting Carrie to crank out "edgier" material is only going to ensure she becomes a niche artist. When she releases a story song about murder to 2016 country radio, and people feel that she is not being "edgy" enough, there is absolutely no way for Carrie to win.At this point it feels like society just wants Carrie to be "edgier" regardless of what song she is actually releasing. True, this is her second murder song in 4 years, but "Dirty Laundry" and "Choctaw County Affair" have basically the exact same dark-sounding-story-song theme going on. I think if she released either one of those in place of this one, the general public would react to it in exactly the same way as they will with this one. And then we would want her to be "edgier" because she insisted on giving us a dark-sounding story song right on the heels of a love song after a relaxation song after a verbal abuse song after a religious celebration song after a song about saying goodbye after a song about murder after a song about alcoholism and tornados after one solitary, frivolous, upbeat song. Now if only she would release something that pushed the envelope... Edit: About "Church Bells", I do like this song quite a bit. I really enjoy the amount of character depth built into the lyrics, and the fact that it is a story song. The production is also pretty cool to me, especially the beginning where there is the banjo and then a bunch of low drum hits/bass falls start happening... I would definitely have enjoyed "Relapse" or "Chaser" more, but I will look forward to seeing if one of them gets chosen next, and in the meantime I will enjoy hearing this one. While this might be slightly *edgy* for radio, murder isn't a new topic for her, so it isn't edgy for her as an artist. She was also in a different situation with "Two Black Cadliacs," since it was her first murder ballad released to radio, so it offered the general public something different from Carrie. I think the "edgy" comment just comes from the fact that Carrie's most memorable songs do tend to be more on the dramatic side. As an artist, Carrie is one the few who has both the talent and status to be releasing anything she pleases, so it's a bit frustrating when the songs she releases barely even offer a glimpse of how great she can be when given the right material. The general public does judge every artist, and every single one who achieves even moderate success gets placed in their own little niche eventually, even if it's completely inaccurate. That's not something that's in Carrie's control, but she's doing herself no favors by reinforcing the perception that she's the murder ballad/power ballad artist who releases "edgy" songs or safe radio fodder. Carrie herself has said consistently she doesn't want to become a niche artist, but the variations of singles she's released in 10 years would suggest otherwise.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Mar 19, 2016 11:45:03 GMT -5
This kinda just strikes me as an album track. Just nothing that grabs me, pretty boring. I look at the A-listers of country today, and just marvel at how consistently boring/unoriginal/bad their singles have been for the past couple years. Been a while since I've heard a truly great song on radio from Carrie, Luke, FGL, Blake, or Aldean, the "stars" of the genre. Sucks how they can just fly up the charts with boring stuff, but artists like Kip Moore/Gary Allan/Kacey Musgraves/Brandy Clark can't do a thing on the charts with consistently superb offerings. ***Also, before I get ripped to shreds by the Carrie lovers, let it be known that I think she's a tremendous talent. Just a Dream is one of my all time favorites, and I enjoyed about everything through her first couple of albums. It's obviously subjective, but I'd argue many people feel the opposite (regarding Carrie), she continues to stick out in a genre where pretty much every single on the radio is the same; generic/bro-country/pretty girl/big truck/nice boat/drink beer, etc. I think Carrie's last two singles did a great job of letting listeners and programers know that Carrie is ready and able to stay trendy, while still making good music. Before those two singles, however, I feel many would argue Carrie was one of the only stars releasing non-boring, original, and good music; "Blown Away", "Two Black Cadillacs", "See You Again", "Something in the Water", and "Little Toy Guns" are all VERY different from anything that has gained radio support since 2012-ish, in my opinion. Now whether you personally like those songs or not is a different story, but I don't think it's fair to say Carrie has been releasing "unoriginal" and "boring" music to country radio because none of those songs fit that description. Unless, of course, you find those topics boring and unoriginal - which would be a fair point; if she wasn't one of the only artists making that kind of music... I just get a little irked when I see Carrie lumped in with Luke, FGL, and Blake as "unoriginal" and "boring"; she may have the same appeal and success as those others, but she's done it with music that I wouldn't ever consider similar to Luke's or FGL's... I get that there's a lot of subjectivity, but I have a hard time accepting Carrie's releases since "Blown Away" as "boring" and "unoriginal"...
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Post by phil1996 on Mar 19, 2016 15:02:32 GMT -5
This kinda just strikes me as an album track. Just nothing that grabs me, pretty boring. I look at the A-listers of country today, and just marvel at how consistently boring/unoriginal/bad their singles have been for the past couple years. Been a while since I've heard a truly great song on radio from Carrie, Luke, FGL, Blake, or Aldean, the "stars" of the genre. Sucks how they can just fly up the charts with boring stuff, but artists like Kip Moore/Gary Allan/Kacey Musgraves/Brandy Clark can't do a thing on the charts with consistently superb offerings. ***Also, before I get ripped to shreds by the Carrie lovers, let it be known that I think she's a tremendous talent. Just a Dream is one of my all time favorites, and I enjoyed about everything through her first couple of albums. I just get a little irked when I see Carrie lumped in with Luke, FGL, and Blake as "unoriginal" and "boring"; she may have the same appeal and success as those others, but she's done it with music that I wouldn't ever consider similar to Luke's or FGL's... I get that there's a lot of subjectivity, but I have a hard time accepting Carrie's releases since "Blown Away" as "boring" and "unoriginal"... I never compared Luke/FGL/Blake to Carrie, it's clear she is miles better. Carrie is very talented, I just think her recent singles have been underwhelming. We all have different opinions. No issues here.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Mar 19, 2016 16:42:29 GMT -5
I just get a little irked when I see Carrie lumped in with Luke, FGL, and Blake as "unoriginal" and "boring"; she may have the same appeal and success as those others, but she's done it with music that I wouldn't ever consider similar to Luke's or FGL's... I get that there's a lot of subjectivity, but I have a hard time accepting Carrie's releases since "Blown Away" as "boring" and "unoriginal"... I never compared Luke/FGL/Blake to Carrie, it's clear she is miles better. Carrie is very talented, I just think her recent singles have been underwhelming. We all have different opinions. No issues here. My mistake, I didn't mean to imply that you compared them. Still, I get annoyed, for lack of a better word, even when they're grouped together... But that's just a personal thing. I tend to agree that she's "miles better"; I like that! When you say "recent", how far back are you talking? Maybe I'm misunderstanding which songs you're talking about?
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Post by Marv on Mar 19, 2016 20:19:19 GMT -5
If merit meant ANYTHING at Country Radio then Luke, Jason, Blake and FGL would not be the format's four most played artists as they were the past two years; we all know that.
Carrie has no chance of becoming a niche artist given her return to airplay dominance after her hiatus, on top of having two of the format's top 25 'power gold' tracks, a feat unmatched since Jo Dee Messina had THREE of the top fifteen such tracks during the previous decade.
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Mar 19, 2016 23:32:29 GMT -5
Finally, after getting 2 so-so and zzzzz singles, we're finally being served with a wonderful and fantastic single.
I have to admit that i wanted DL so bad, but CB is also a great song so i don't mind as long as they release DL after this.
CB is a better song than TBC. TBC was wonderful, but CB is at another level. The storyline , the hook, and the chorus are better. TBC production was better tho.
I really hope this will go at least Platinum, and peak at #1 on BB Country Songs and Airplay.
See you in 4 months, DL.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 23:58:11 GMT -5
I like this but it's not my favorite song from her. It's a huge step up from her previous single at least.
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Post by toomuchboy on Mar 20, 2016 10:35:28 GMT -5
I actually do like this song (and prefer it to “TBC”). I’m only disappointed about it being as a single since she's likely only going to have one more single. But, honestly, out of the three released, SB is the one that should've been kept album-only, imo.
As for the comments that Carrie might be caught in a rut, re: themes, I don't think it'll happen to her the way it did Martina just because most of her message songs are varied in sound. The message songs got old fast from Martina because every one of them was a sappy ballad that would practically beg you to cry (and the later ones weren't as good as the earlier ones either, which made it harder to bear).
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Post by surfy on Mar 20, 2016 12:46:33 GMT -5
Looooove this! Finally a single I can really get behind! Surprised that everyone isn't feeling this. Yeah, Carrie has a few singles about murder, but she's had many more singles between this and TBC that featured different lyrical content, I guess I just fail to see the big fuss?
Anyways, this song is the single I wanted from Carrie! Go her!
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Mar 20, 2016 14:29:05 GMT -5
I wanted Dirty Laundry but I am content with this choice. SMASH please!
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Post by Massikur2 on Mar 20, 2016 14:50:36 GMT -5
I realize now that the imminent release of this single doesn't bode well for the possibility of "Choctaw County Affair" being released at all. Perhaps this determination is a bit presumptuous, but if that is indeed the case they did not go in the right direction. I'm not exactly sure what the point of Carrie recording great songs is if they never get taken to a broader audience.
That said, "Blown Away" and "Two Black Cadillacs" were thematically similar and both shipped to radio, so perhaps this is a moot point.
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Mar 20, 2016 15:12:13 GMT -5
Not a bad choice, but (like several others) I was really hoping for "Dirty Laundry."
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Post by Marv on Mar 21, 2016 1:31:28 GMT -5
^^^^^I can live with this but I also wanted Dirty Laundry, which COULD have been the definitive crank it up nice and loud radio tune for the spring and summer of 2016.
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Post by justlurkingaround on Mar 21, 2016 11:04:26 GMT -5
This was my favorite song when the album was released. It has slowly faded into the background of other songs growing on me, but it's still great. I expect this to be another #1.
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Post by Unhinged on Mar 22, 2016 12:21:47 GMT -5
Great choice for third, still hoping for "Dirty Laundry" to get a release!
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Post by tryexp on Mar 22, 2016 13:38:06 GMT -5
I can't wait to see what the music video is going to look like...anyone knows when they are planning to film it?
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Post by ant on Mar 22, 2016 14:43:23 GMT -5
I can't wait to see what the music video is going to look like...anyone knows when they are planning to film it? They haven't even officially announced this as the next single yet, so I'm not sure. It's possible that it's already been filmed.
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Post by NeRD on Mar 22, 2016 18:26:32 GMT -5
VERY early adds this week?
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 22, 2016 18:40:19 GMT -5
VERY early adds this week? "Church Bells" got 2 adds this week.
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Post by tim on Mar 22, 2016 23:50:02 GMT -5
I've been listening to both "Dirty Laundry" and "Church Bells" throughout the day and I easily would've gone with DL. I absolutely love the vibe of it and would've been a great turn-it-up for me on radio this summer.
As for "Church Bells" as the next single, it's a strike out. I found "Hearbeat" sappy and disappointing, and this also doesn't do anything for me. I find it a perplexing release for summer I suppose. As usual my biggest complaint with Carrie is the overproduction of her music, and this follows that trend. Carrie is certainly more miss than hit for myself and I do wish she stripped down the production of her songs a bit. I'll be skipping over this one.
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Post by strikeleo on Mar 23, 2016 7:30:56 GMT -5
I love Dirty Laundry, but it's hilarious to me that you guys are saying this is a rehash and claiming Dirty Laundry is edgy in any way, shape or form. To the general public, Carrie's trademark lyrics is the woman scorned role, so Dirty Laundry is basically Carrie excelling for what she's known for. Before He Cheats is probably a more memorable song than Two Black Cadillacs will ever be when it comes to Carrie's repertoire, so Dirty Laundry IS Carrie becoming the niche artist y'all are so afraid.
With that said, I love both songs and they are the strongest tracks in Storyteller, so I'll be glad to see either becoming a single. I'm still unsure if this is the next single since her tweet came accross as saying Dirty Laundry is next, though... Also, lyrics wise, Church Bells is probably my favorite track on the record. The lyrics here are much more descriptive, and even so, much more full of symbolism than her previous efforts...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 9:18:02 GMT -5
I love Dirty Laundry, but it's hilarious to me that you guys are saying this is a rehash and claiming Dirty Laundry is edgy in any way, shape or form. To the general public, Carrie's trademark lyrics is the woman scorned role, so Dirty Laundry is basically Carrie excelling for what she's known for. Before He Cheats is probably a more memorable song than Two Black Cadillacs will ever be when it comes to Carrie's repertoire, so Dirty Laundry IS Carrie becoming the niche artist y'all are so afraid. With that said, I love both songs and they are the strongest tracks in Storyteller, so I'll be glad to see either becoming a single. I'm still unsure if this is the next single since her tweet came accross as saying Dirty Laundry is next, though... Also, lyrics wise, Church Bells is probably my favorite track on the record. The lyrics here are much more descriptive, and even so, much more full of symbolism than her previous efforts... What tweet of her's said "Dirty Laundry"?
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Post by ant on Mar 23, 2016 9:28:37 GMT -5
I love Dirty Laundry, but it's hilarious to me that you guys are saying this is a rehash and claiming Dirty Laundry is edgy in any way, shape or form. To the general public, Carrie's trademark lyrics is the woman scorned role, so Dirty Laundry is basically Carrie excelling for what she's known for. Before He Cheats is probably a more memorable song than Two Black Cadillacs will ever be when it comes to Carrie's repertoire, so Dirty Laundry IS Carrie becoming the niche artist y'all are so afraid. With that said, I love both songs and they are the strongest tracks in Storyteller, so I'll be glad to see either becoming a single. I'm still unsure if this is the next single since her tweet came accross as saying Dirty Laundry is next, though... Also, lyrics wise, Church Bells is probably my favorite track on the record. The lyrics here are much more descriptive, and even so, much more full of symbolism than her previous efforts... What tweet of her's said "Dirty Laundry"? Carrie tweeted about being happy that she had an off day from touring to do her laundry. A lot of fans speculated that she was hinting that "Dirty Laundry" is the next single. A fan tweeted her pointing it out and Carrie responded by saying "I didn't even realize that...oops!".
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 12:40:59 GMT -5
What tweet of her's said "Dirty Laundry"? Carrie tweeted about being happy that she had an off day from touring to do her laundry. A lot of fans speculated that she was hinting that "Dirty Laundry" is the next single. A fan tweeted her pointing it out and Carrie responded by saying "I didn't even realize that...oops!". I knew that tweet existed. I thought they meant a more specific tweet.
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Post by musicfan134 on Mar 23, 2016 16:44:24 GMT -5
I love Dirty Laundry, but it's hilarious to me that you guys are saying this is a rehash and claiming Dirty Laundry is edgy in any way, shape or form. To the general public, Carrie's trademark lyrics is the woman scorned role, so Dirty Laundry is basically Carrie excelling for what she's known for. Before He Cheats is probably a more memorable song than Two Black Cadillacs will ever be when it comes to Carrie's repertoire, so Dirty Laundry IS Carrie becoming the niche artist y'all are so afraid. With that said, I love both songs and they are the strongest tracks in Storyteller, so I'll be glad to see either becoming a single. I'm still unsure if this is the next single since her tweet came accross as saying Dirty Laundry is next, though... Also, lyrics wise, Church Bells is probably my favorite track on the record. The lyrics here are much more descriptive, and even so, much more full of symbolism than her previous efforts... Yes, but women scorned songs are much much more common in general music than songs about murder. Yes, BHC is more well known, but BA/TBC stick out like a sore thumb compared to something like BHC. So it'd be harder for Carrie's niche to become the "woman scorned" than the "murder balladeer." Don't know if I agree with this for single number three. Then again the album as a whole has been by far and away my least favorite Carrie album ever released so nothing they released short of "Relapse" would have pleased me.
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